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"Mobil 1 Extended Performance

You've never seen an oil like this before. Mobil 1® Extended Performance is a new high-endurance motor oil with 36 percent more anti-wear additives and 37 percent more cleaning agents than current Mobil 1 formulations. It is a fully synthetic formulation that helps extend engine life, reduce oil breakdown and minimize engine wear -- all while helping to keep your engine clean. Improvements that add up to exceptional protection for 15,000 miles. Guaranteed. " ...from mobiloil.com

Mobil 1 Extended Performance

Dave...

Yes oil has come a LONG way in the last 15 years. I have been worknig on Honda Auto for over 26 years & some of our cars are listed to go 10,000 before an oil change.

Me IM still old school I change my oil every 3,000 in all 4 of my Honda cars & in my GMC P/U.

Honda Oil Filters & an AC delco Filter for my Truck

As far as the Honda go all 4 have over 150,000 miles & still run strong.

Honda's oil filter is the best thing going. Like it states in the slick 50 comerical's When you first Start your eng This is when all of the damage is done.

NOT SO WITH AN HONDA OIL FILTER, you see they have a one way check valve in there oil filter that holds the oil in the top, so when you first start you car the O/H cam, rockers..... all get oil right away.

Most oil filters bleed down over night,  A lot of them clame to have a check valve But when you pull the filter off & you only get a filter's worth of oil out. You know it drained out from the motor. It should drain from in side the Filter screw for a while ~ enough to drain from the top down, Then you know its working.

I run OEM ~ Honda oil in all my cars & truck, It is proven to be one of the best oils out there

Mobil 1 Synthetic in my snowblower & in my Yamaha 660 /  4-wheeler

Just my 2 cents

That was some nice info there Buck101.  I really  appreciate it.  I wonder if Honda makes a SAE 30 for the OPE, and if it's better than Valvoline.  I might switch over. 

TheBuck101 wrote:
Great theory. but not entirely true.  Modern oils prevent metal/metal contact . During startup the oil film that remains provides contact lubrication until the oil pressure builds. This boundary or contact lubrication creates much less friction than metal/metal contact . Once oil pressure builds there is "hydrodynamic" - pressurized - oil flow which eliminates almost all the friction load.

 An anti-drainback valve minimizes the time required to build  oil pressure., but doesn't eliminate it.  Some dry sump race cars have accumulators in the system with a shutoff valve. So you can open the valve, pressurize the oil system, then start.  But I'm not aware of  any  street cars with either system. So there is always some  boundary layer lubrication. Differential expansion between parts at extreme cold temps also creates a lot of wear.

Hondas are extremely well engineered. Our [2005 Accord V6] only has 8,000 miles and we're using Mobil one and Puralator Pure One filters because they have synthetic filter elements (so do Mobil One filters). We won't do our first oil analysis until the next change.

 We've done oil analysis on a 1997 Subaru (currently 156K miles) and a Ford van  (currently 158K) and with 7,000 to 7,500 miles between changes (conventional oil) iand it's still perfectly good - we could extend the drain intervals to 10,000 no problem. Throwing away oil with 3,000 miles on it is just creating high-grade waste oil. But the 3,000 mile interval is a faith-based religion so tribology does not sway anyone.

BTW, I learned about oil analysis in the Army with our old M60A3 tanks. Tanks always operate under high load, but seldom go more than a few hundred miles a year.  And they held many gallons  od oil - 30+ as I recall. The oil analysis measured the wear state of the oil, and also caught unusual wear patterns. 

There are a number of firms that do this. We use National Tribology - www.natrib.com.

Garandman wrote:
FYI from Honda for your 2005 Accord

Since when is Honda an oil manufacturing company?

Marshall,

The motor oil that Honda uses is by Mobil.  It was specifically developed for their automobiles by Mobil and Honda engineers.  I was an auto mechanic before my present occupation.  Both Honda and Toyota RD departments work closely with different manufacurers of lubricants.  I can tell you that the filters and oil you by from a honda dealership are the best you can get for your vehicle.  There is a reason that their vehicles run forever if you use thier materials, that is because they don't use shortcuts and believe in quality.  Unfortunately the garbage that "American" automobile manufacturers produce is just that, garbage.  They have gotten better but their products are no where near the quality of the Japanese vehicles.  It is amazing that our American automobile manufacturers send jobs to other countries but yet Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mazda etc build plants here and use American workers to produce a better product.  Ok off my soap box because I got off the subject.  You can't go wrong using Mobil products.

UC, that was my point, it's Mobil oil.

I agree on the other points too. But, did you see the laters repair reports released this week? Buick came in 3rd, in front of Mercedes but behind Lexus and Acura. However that puts them in front of Toyota, Honda and the others. Wish I could find the report online.

OK so maybe it's because Buick owners only put 2500 miles on their car a year, they can't help it if 92 is their average age. LOL

Marshall wrote:
Marshall,
 
You mean this one?

I thought the same about Buick........It just isn't that far to bingo, the Cracker Barrel and back to the senior center. Plus.......if you turn down the hearing aid, even a Yugo sounds like a Bentley.

Nice list guys     

That's probably it Emmo. I saw it on Fox News, it listed them in numerical order by manufacture. Maybe the first two spots were Lexus, Toyota instead of Acura? I remember Lexus as #1, Buick as #3 and Mercedes as 4th. That Canadian plant of GM's has always been a strong plant in putting out quality. I had a pickup once from that plant, one of the best Chevy's I've had.