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/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl General >> Vacuum Cleaner Forum >> Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today... /cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1169782397 Message started by atrac on 01/25/07 at 10:33pm |
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Title: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today... Post by atrac on 01/25/07 at 10:33pm I've been a lurker of this forum for several months now but decided to join to report something very odd that happened to me today. I was in my local Target (Southern CA) and noticed a new vacuum on the market: The Dirt Devil Spinnergy. The box of this unit claims "Multi-Stage Cyclonic" technology and a "Sustained Suction Technology." The pictures on the box of how the cyclonic technology works was amazingly similar to the Dyson. The unit's appearance seemed to be a combination of the Hoover Fusion and well, a Dyson. ;) Indeed, the unit has the small cyclone chambers found in the Dyson (of course), Bissell Healthy Home, Infinity, and the Kenmore Iridium. It included a standard "mini-turbine" and also has a nice and long 30 foot cord. I was quite intrigued to try this model out! I was even more thrilled when I scanned it at the Target price checker and it came up $99.99. What a steal! My dreams of the perfect Dyson Rip-off were quickly spoiled though when I "attempted" to check out. The register locked when they scanned the Spinnergy and spit out a tag to be affixed to the box. "Factory Recall - Do not sell - Return to Manufacturer." WHAT!?!?!? How could they????? I tried my best to buy it anyway, but the Target manager would not budge. I even went back to the store later and tried buying another one (since they had not yet removed the other two from the floor). NO GO. I was instructed to call Dirt Devil to find out why. That call is not yet resolved. The CSR told me this model does NOT appear on their recall list. It also does not appear on their website so she could not order it for me. The Dirt Devil Corporate office was not open to fully comment, but they will hopefully call me back tomorrow. Scandal? Is Dyson blocking the sale of these units since it so closely mimics their technology? I can say this, from the pictures on the box, it looks like the closest rip-off of any "Dyson Clone" I have seen (the second being the Bissell Healthy Home, which wisely downplays the "multi-cyclone" technology in favor of the "healthy" aspect of their unit). It is of course very possible that there is something wrong with this unit and they are pulling it. But it just seems odd that they would do so before any dust began to settle on the boxes of these units. Another option is Target has made a mistake. I checked two other stores in my area and they didn't even have this unit. It's all very weird to me. I can say this - I want one NOW more than EVER!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/26/07 at 7:14am atrac wrote:
I believe there is something wrong with the Spinnergy vacuum and DD wants to pull it back and resolve before bad publicity ruins its chances for success. New makes are being subjected to tests by ASTM, GoodHousekeeping, Consumer Reports and the CRI, even after they hit the shelves for sale. One of these testing entities may have encountered the problem and reported back to DD, hence the recall. It can be something very minor and maybe not. At the price, the product would sell quickly. Its harder to remove the food coloring from the water once its in. Better not to contaminate the food supply (retailers). Its not uncommon for regions and/or even select TARGET stores to launch new makes and models in advance of the entire store chain. Be patient, you'll have another opportunity to buy the Spinnergy. Don't be surprised if you have a real hard job finding out the reason for the recall. First, the CSR may not even know. Second, even if they do, you may not be told the truth on the telephone. Thanks for the heads up on the new Spinnergy. BTW it appears the new Spinnergy model numbers are M120000 and/or M120000CA. These numbers are good to have when you talk to the CSR for information on the recall. You probably have the CS number for the USA and Canada: 1.800.321.1134. Hours are 8 AM to 7 PM Monday thru Friday EST and the website: www.dirtdevil.com. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by Vacuumfreeeke on 01/26/07 at 9:56am Not machine specific, but just a general comment. Could it be perhaps the vacuum gods looking down and preventing you from making the mistake of buying a dirt devi? If dirt devil were smart they would recall every piece of crap they ever made... or would have made quality products to begin with! If you want something cheap that will last longer than a dirt devil and work better I believe the dollar store is having a sale on brooms! (While it's true that everyone who knows anything about vacuums knows that DDs have always been terrible, I say that last comment with humor, not malice. I'd hate to offend a newcomer to the forum.) I thought the Reaction was dirt devil's attempt at a copy of the real thing (Dyson). I would like to see a picture of this contraption if anyone can provide a link or photo. Thanks! |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by atrac on 01/27/07 at 12:02am Dirt Devil called me back and left me a message saying the vacuum is not recalled. Weird. Anyway, here are some very lame pics I took of the box with my camera phone: http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1250/syn1to9.jpg http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6720/syn2rj6.jpg http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8299/syn3le2.jpg I have my camera phone software at work so I couldn't put them in my original post. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/27/07 at 7:11am atrac wrote:
Good pics. Here's another possibility on the sudden pull back ("recall" has a negative product connotation) which I'm more inclined to believe than a product defect. TTI, maker of HOOVER FUSION, and now the owner of HOOVER too, has an exclusive license agreement with Wal*Mart and Sam's Club Stores not to have a copycat version of the FUSION and/or FUSION Plus for an agreed upon time. With the success of these two HOOVER FUSION models over the last almost 2 years, TTI wants to get competitor models in other big box retailers and mass market USA wide. TTI and TARGET may have jumped the gun. 2 years may be the time limit. Spinnergy is a few months early. Hence the sudden TARGET pull back. Some nice features of the Spinnergy: Multiple cyclonic technology, HEPA rated, 30 foot cord and 2 year product warranty. Typical Royal Red for Dirt Devil. The Spinnergy will be a competitor in the low end bagless upright market, especially against the Wal*Mart and Sam's Club stores with FUSION and FUSION Plus. Neither of the FUSIONS are HEPA rated and they come with only a 1 year product warranty. The FUSION prices are now $98 and $109 respectively and recently HSN was selling the FUSION Plus for $119. An indication that the HOOVER Fusion and the Wal*Mart & Sam's Club agreements may be reaching an end. HOOVER has had the Elite bagless (MSRP $129) which is HEPA rated and has a cord winder with 24 foot cord (I believe). Also a popular seller at the big box retailers, and has been priced as low as $89 at COSTCO and BEST BUY stores and $69 at Frys Electronics. With TTI's dual ownership of both HOOVER and Royal Appliances, it will be a challenge to market vacuum products which compete against itself. It has been mentioned on the Forum that Royal offers two lines: Royal vacuum products for vacuum store independents and Dirt Devil products for the big box retailers. HOOVER has gone all out for the big box retailers at the exclusion and expense of the independents. With both brands under the same owner/management umbrella, time will tell what will emerge and evolve for the two oldest surviving vacuum brands in the USA industry: HOOVER and Royal. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by old-timer on 01/28/07 at 1:48pm dealing with dirt devil/royal is like talking to a 6 year old ;) O.T. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by earthworm on 02/01/07 at 8:57pm Vacuumfreeeke wrote:
Sadly, agree, flat out.When I finally find a replacement, the DirtyDevil is trash... American manufacturering has been in trouble for a long time.. But I think we still make some good stuff John Deere Lawn Boy ? ? some trucks space ships |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by just-passing-throu on 02/02/07 at 11:09am American manufacturering has been in trouble for a long time.. But I think we still make some good stuff John Deere Lawn Boy ? ? some trucks space ships[/quote] Earthworm, Actually, our space program doesn't have a spotless past. Lets not forget the top reliability winners Kirby & Rainbow (American Made), that should be added to your list. It's not our manufacturing that is in trouble. It's our labor costs that cause the manufacturers to cut cost usually at the expense of quality. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by atrac on 02/23/07 at 11:53pm I take "zero" credit for finding this, since someone on another forum found this link: http://www.vax.co.uk/zero/index.php As we all know, Royal owns Vax, so the middle one is the beloved Spinnergy. Interesting other models too! |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/24/07 at 7:38am atrac wrote:
Striking resemblances to the current Dirt Devil Breeze, Dynamite, and Vibe save for the cyclonic suction shroud set up in lieu of dirt bin filters. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by earthworm on 02/24/07 at 1:10pm But Kirbys and Rainbows are so expensive, as is our space craft..And tons of money do not necessarily buy high performance nor quality.. So this DD Spinnenergy is around $100 and tries to compete with a $500 Dyson ??. Check out the latest CU vacuum cleaner ratings...My $56 dollar Eureka 433 was rated as the worst......but then, I cannot trust CU to be entirely objective.. High labor costs is but one of the problems of our manufacturing, I am NOT impressed with the intellect of those in the board-room. Communications, and the quality thereof, is another thing that is in need of a ton of work.... or mybe this is more a problem of attitude - that the manufacturers do not respect the consumers.. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/15/07 at 6:39pm The Dirt Devil Spinnergy has launched. Although the vacuum is not on the Dirt Devil Web Site yet, the parts numbers and items are. Expect to see it first at TARGET stores for about $100. Looks like a clone of the HOOVER Fusion. And therein lies the reason it was not launched sooner. Could not compete with Wal*Mart's exclusive 2 year contract with HOOVER and the Fusion. Now that the Fusion has given way to the 2nd generation of Mach 3, 4, and 5, the Dirt Devil Spinnergy is back. Interesting that Dirt Devil would revive this "old" FUSION under a new name. Must be its strong sales, customer appeal and popularity. Despite the negative Consumer Reports reviews. This tells me something about the CR ratings and reviews. While customers may read and heed for the medium to high priced vacuums, when it comes to the $100 and less, it's a moot point what the CR ratings and rankings may be. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by Mike_W. on 06/23/07 at 3:18am The DD is available at Walmart for under $100.00. It is very similar to the HOOVER Fusion upright, but I do like the wand system of the DD. It is a much better(sturdier) construction compared to the plastic on the Fusion. The Wand is part of the handle/shaft of the vacuum cleaner. It also has a better belt system than the Fusion, since the belt will not need to be changed. The cord is also longer. People looking for some of these features in a HOOVER, will have to look to the Mach 5. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/25/07 at 2:19pm Mike_W. wrote:
Hello Mike: I like the FUSION handle better. The FUSION handle is adjustable. The DD handle/wand is one size. And the plastic furrow that holds the metal handle/wand in the vacuum housing is chintzie. With use, it will malfunction. And this is a heavily used part of the vacuum. On the plus side, the Spinnergy has a 2 year warranty. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by vacuuman on 06/26/07 at 1:56am I would personally avoid such vacuums as these, and go for a higher end bagged vacuum, such as a Miele or Riccar. The higher price doesn't just reflect performance, but it also buys better quality, longer life, and reliability. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by atrac on 06/30/07 at 4:36pm Having owned both the original Fusion and now the Spinnergy, I would say that they both seem to be manufactured by the same Chinese company. The Spinnergy seems like the better machine though because it does have a HEPA filter and it does use a knock-off of "Root Cyclone" Technology (similar to Dyson) whereas the Fusion had neither. As I vacuum with it, it "feels" a lot like the Fusion did actually. If I still had both, I'd like to do a blindfold test to guess which one I was using. The one thing that is annoying about it is the cone inside the collection bin does not have an opening at the bottom. So it collects really fine dust that has to be emptied separately from the normal bin emptying process. You have to grab the cone and twist it off to empty it. Nothing like touching the dirty contents! I don't see why it couldn't have an opening at the bottom so that it would empty with everything else. When the lid of the bottom is closed, it sits flush with the bottom of the cone so it has the same effect. Weird. "Too" close to Dyson maybe so they had to make that design change? At any rate, I like it a lot actually. Of course longevity is always the question. ;) |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/30/07 at 8:28pm atrac wrote:
And here's the answer: Spinnergy is $100 and has a 2 year warranty. Buy 5 for $500 and have 10 years worth of new vacuums with warranty coverage vice the most expensive bagless for $500 with only 5 years of warranty. Twice the warranty longevity [10 years vice 5] for the same cost. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by M00seUK on 07/01/07 at 6:40am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
And here's the answer: Spinnergy is $100 and has a 2 year warranty. Buy 5 for $500 and have 10 years worth of new vacuums with warranty coverage vice the most expensive bagless for $500 with only 5 years of warranty. Twice the warranty longevity [10 years vice 5] for the same cost. ;) Carmine D. [/quote] In the UK today (July 1st) , the Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment comes in to force making manufacturers and importers responsible for recycling the products that they sell, once they reach end of life. As an extension on this, Dyson have offered to everyone who buys direct, to collect and dispose of their old vacuum (regardless of it's make) in an environmentally friendly way. http://www.dyson.co.uk/aftersales/recycle.asp Altogether, this sounds like a better deal for the planet then purchasing five units in a similar timeframe. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/01/07 at 7:15am M00seUK wrote:
Hello M00seUK: If you do the math, actually twice the time frame: 10 years for the Spinnergy vice 5 years for the other brand. Recycling is an excellent idea. Here in the good old USA, ORECK has been doing this already for years [even before recycling was in vogue]. Just under a different name and without a legal and/or environmental need for doing so. AND not just for ORECKS but all vacuum brands. And ORECK even allows as much as a $100 trade in allowance for your old vacuum to buy a new ORECK. ORECK vacuums automatically command the $100 trade in allowance for the purchase of another, if not more. And as you already know, ORECKS use one-third the electricity to operate as the other brand. 4 amps for ORECK vice 12 amps for the other brand. So over the life of the vacuum, ORECK conserves electrical energy vice the other brand. I'm sure other manufacturers will step up to the plate and follow ORECK's lead for recycling. Thanks for the timely UK news. BTW, I've purchased 3 new ORECK XL vacuums since April 2007. Keeping and using one and gifting 2 away. I plan 2 more ORECK purchases soon also as gifts. And probably more before the year is up. Not only are they excellent vacuums, but the users conserve electrical energy [as well as physical energy], recycle if they trade up, and ORECK donates a portion of the sales proceeds to the Susan G. Komen Foundation for breast cancer. Altogether a greater deal for the planet and its people. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by M00seUK on 07/01/07 at 10:31am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Indeed, this was a consideration when I made the above post. The calculation is based on the product's warranty period, which could vary from the actual longevity in either case. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by guess_who on 07/01/07 at 10:31am Hi Carmine, I have always thought that getting back to designing vacuums that concentrate or utilize air airflow more efficiently while relying on less wattage draw is great. AND it's already been done in past so it can't be claimed an impossibility. The Oreck upright does do all at that by making the airpath from the floor to the fan chamber short, sweet and uncomplicated and it uses amply sized dust bags to promote better airflow as they fill. My question is, what do we do to get the buying public to be less energy hungry? Is there any way to get manufacturers to switch their pitches from illusions of power through possesing contained windstorms to clean with to more practical, easily explained reasons why you can do just as much with less? High wattage/amperage claims are still used to influence vacuum buyers and they appear to be winning. We also have cars that are fuel efficient but there remains a glut of vans, etc., out on our roads. During my time out of the country, one of the first things I noticed was more careful use of energy. At first I pigeon-holed it as due to there being a more practical mindset in Europe. Then, duh, I later realized that, mindest or not, electricity could be comparatively far more expensive in other parts of the world than mine and people were merely doing what they could to save money. For instance, I stayed at a home in Spain where a small wall-mounted tank style hot water heater was only switched on for morning showers and breakfast dishes and turned off again until dinner time came to keep the bill down. Though the unit could have only contained ten ot fifteen gallons, to have it on on day and night could prove catastrophic budgetwise. I also visited many hotels and homes that used gas or elctrically powered "instant" hot water heaters as opposed to large capacity units like ours that run 24/7. Devices like this are available here, if wanted, and might well save a lot of people a lot of money but there appears to be little interest in them. We're pretty hard-headed here. But as Granddad said, " A hard head makes for a soft you-know-what." Venson |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by old-timer on 07/01/07 at 11:22am Hi Venson,you make an interesting point about consumption,lets look at the other side of the coin.Has anyone ever noticed that the more energy efficient a product becomes,[automobiles],the more it costs to operate it, I realize that there are many more cars on the road today than years ago,but the cost of fuel and the tarrifs that are tacked on more than negate any real savings to the consumers,your government at work''. O.T. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/01/07 at 12:55pm M00seUK: Thanks for the clarification on your meaning of "timeframe" in the post. OldTimer, Venson: I mentioned previously that GM hired 400 engineers to completely revamp its entitre fleet of vehicles across all divisions to make them more fuel and energy efficient. I think that's a start. With regard to vacuums and other home appliances, I think consumers will pay a premium if the product accomplishes the same job in less time. I have to say ORECK is ideal for this goal. Why? I can vacuum all the floor surfaces in my home in less time with an ORECK than any other vacuum and/or combination of vacuums. And not worry about the daily/weekly time to dump a dirt bin and/or change paper bags frequently. I have just passed the second full month of daily usage with the same ORECK paper bag still on board. And there's still room to go and the vacuum doesn't miss a spec, not even a lone pet hair. Get's it all in less time than the other more expensive, less energy efficient and heavier vacuums. Since I'm not a "tool" man when it comes to the above the floor cleaning, preferring the old fashioned ways of hands and dust clothes, I don't miss not having attachments on board. In fact, I find them more time consuming and less efficient than the dust cloth--swiffer hand methods. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by guess_who on 07/01/07 at 1:13pm Hey O.T., How goes it? I think we are all going to have to begin to educate ourselves more about the working of things since we can be sure that business and government more than likely will not. Along with self-education we'll also need to learn to say, as I've said so many times, "Uh-uh, I can't use that," and point out, "This is what I need instead." That's what I think. However, there's the rub. Not enough of us can see our way clear to saying no and putting our foot down about what's acceptable for money we're expected to willingly spend. It would be splendid to see more people vociferously letting it be known that they may well make do with what they've already got We've got libraries and even better the internet where you can dig for just about anything you want to know to help us get useful information about how things are made and how much they cost in the making. From such information most folks, even I, horrible mathematician that I am, should be able to get an idea of what a fair price should be and what is should not. Money spent or money withheld, which maybe even wield more power than the vote, usually has a lot to do with which way the reins of this country get tugged. The sad part is that we don't seem to wax to cohesive or sensitive frame of thought until some tragedy occurs to haul us into line. As far as issues of pollution, consumption and conservation are concerned, we'd be far better served to become adamant now than to later be forced into action by the result of our own willfull neglect. It would a good thing to get ourselves set up with a new modus operendi before, as with some places in the world, running water is only available x-days a week to specific blocks and must be stored for use in between; before power is either limited or unreliable because of brownouts and blackouts; before running to doctors who will probably not be able to do us much good in respect to ills brought on by bad air. Is there hope? Yes. Grandad's daughter, my Aunt Lucy said, "You can do anything you want -- you just have to want to do it." Regards, Venson |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by guess_who on 07/01/07 at 2:40pm Hi again, The following link may be of interest to persons who are looking for ideas on how to improve their use of energy. http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/ In our case, a vacuum cleaner, giving consideration to average use, is not much of an expense though I think makers should get on and stay on the energy-efficient band wagon. As regards othere areas where cost is more substantial, personally, I've been using compact flourescent light bulbs for some time and for the money spent have gained a great deal of value as they last a long time. I'd tell you how long they last but it's been so long since I changed the last one I don't remember. I noticed a page from the link above regarding the spin dryer, a practical appliance more known to Europeans than Americans. Considering the expenditure to buy one, savings can be really something. Per the site, a couple minutes of use before placing your laundry into a regular clothes dryer can save approximately thirty mniutes of drying time per load. Venson |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by old-timer on 07/01/07 at 4:42pm Thanks Venson, Carmine. Another thing that really bugs me is why is a computor considered OBSOLETE after 1 year old and you cant buy parts or have it repaired,is this considered as innovative thinking................. O.T. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by guess_who on 07/01/07 at 6:12pm Ho O.T., In this, we may be saved -- for the moment. Computers can be built and rebuilt. There are entities who do this. I am thinking on having my next new desktop built from the ground up. The actual amount for paid for the assembly work is not unreasonable. However, the components, processors, motherboards, drives, computer case, power supply, etc., are for you to choose and cost in total whatever you feel you'd like to spend. Try thew following link -- http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/pc-building/ If you can pick up computer components at reasonable prices, often a thing you're better served to comparison for yourself, you may have a product valued, rough guess, at twice the price. I was at Best Buy and off-the-shelf prices offered got my dander up so I started searching the web and began starting to school myself about building my own. With the right information, anyone can do this. Basically, you have to learn which parts are compatible with which parts and your planned on operating system. Contrary to my thinking, there are no parts that requiring any soldering. Most, even PC cards, easily screw or snap into place. I wish it was as easy to build my own vacuum cleaner. Best, Venson |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/02/07 at 7:26am guess_who wrote:
Too bad vacuum makers don't allow buyers to customize their vacuum cleaner purchases. Consumers would pay a premium if they could decide what they get for their money rather than same same. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by Trilobite on 07/04/07 at 7:31pm guess_who wrote:
Front-loading automatic washing machines sold in the UK, tend to have spin speeds upwards of 1000 rpm. Typically, 1200rpm is common, as are 1400 and 1600rpm machines. There are even 1800 rpm and 2000rpm washers available; the latter two are from Miele and Gorenje, respectively. A larger drum diameter allows a slower speed to achieve the same extraction efficiency as a smaller drum, at a higher speed. |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by guess_who on 07/04/07 at 11:27pm Hi again Trilobite, Hurrah for Europe! I think that those parts of the world that didn't start out with oil wells in the back yard have always had to be sensible -- and inventive -- regarding matters of consumption. We need a quick awakening here in the land of plenty before the plenty runs out. What amazes me is the lack of vision we often seem to be devoid of as of late -- and possibly on purpose. Born and bred in this country have been some of the most agile and adept minds in all manner of technological fields and business. So what happened? While I am never at a loss to hear how to invest money or how to spend money I don't have, I seldom see product or hear advice that informs me merely how to keep the money I've got. Yep, there are washing machines to be found that not only have high speed spin cycles but that also have the ability to heat water. There are also dishwashers that without requirement of a hot water heater can heat water per needed cycle and can produce perfectly clean dishes. Unfortunately, those makes and models that might allow us to turn down the thermostats on our 24/7 hot water supply come at premium prices here. They run near and often well above the $1,000 mark though it's highly doubtful that they cost beyond half that to manufacture. What explains the cost? Is it because their makers know of and deliberately plan to cash in on the consumer's anticipated savings before they get the chance to to even look at the money? Is it because the quality of their product is actually so exemplary that it's makers are surely due top price? I don't know. As far as laundry goes, I do know that a long while back coin-operated spin driers were often available for use in self-service laundries here in New York. They were used to extract water that the spin cycle of the automatic washer failed to. You paid very little money to use one and they did significantly cut the time and expense of regular dryer use. It's been way more than thirty years since I last laid eyes on one in a laundromat. We are in need of energy and money saving devices that are accessible to everyone if we are to sucessfully move toward saving energy, water and good air. I am not saying everyone should expect to have an expensive high-end Miele, Bosch or whatever in their household. What I am asking is that, since there's always more than one way to skin a cat, that affordable useful stop gaps begin to come into the market. A spin dryer is far less complicated machine and wouldn't cost nearly as much as we'd pay for a high-speed spin imported washer with x-amount of special cycles and it would probably prove a greater help. So why aren't they being made readily available? I have not been away in a long time but in past this was a common item on the European market. Why don't we have have clothes washers that only have to hook up to a cold water line? Again I don't know. I do know that the larger part of the public ends up buying $200 to $400 models that are far less efficient because more efficient devoces just won't fit their budget. We need to begin to insist on product that may not necessarily fit our our bell and whistle requirements but the needs of the moment. Venson |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by hoovcand on 07/05/07 at 4:29am well it just so happens the latest hoover and candy washers do just that but seems confusing to people buying them alex (NEWCASTLE GATESHEAD)UK |
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Title: Re: Dirt Devil Spinnergy - Here today, gone today. Post by guess_who on 07/05/07 at 8:10am Hello hoovcand, I don't see anything all that confusing about them and am quite impressed that Hoover UK offers models with capacities of 12, 16 and 18 pounds to help possible buyers find a machine that best suits ther needs. In any event we need more of the same added to our market if affordable. I'm curious as to the mark-up in the process of their being imported imported. For those interested, links to brochures (PDF style) can be found here. While you're at the Hoover UK site, also check out the vacuums http://www.hoover.co.uk/docs/images/brochures/4259%20HOOVER%20LAUNDRY.pdf or here http://www.candy-domestic.co.uk/brochures/4284%20CANDY%20LAUNDRY.pdf Venson |
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