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Re: Retail theft
Reply #20 - 06/21/07 at 4:56pm
 
Quote from guess_who on 06/21/07 at 1:58pm:
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I would think one way to deal with this problem would be for eBay to require the mandatory conspicous listing of a new item's serial number, where possible, in the auction post.  It would be there for all to see, buyers and/or parties tracking stolen goods.  This should well be a requirement for current but used items such as appliances and electronic goods too.

As far as I am concerned, Dyson and a number of other vacuum brands' pricing is a bit silly for what you get and if I were to opt to buy any one in particular I'd certainly go for the best price I could get.  However, I would only want to do this legally.  

We are constantly being brainwashed about what we "must have" to be in step with the times and even worthy.  So much so that many of us have turned just plain greedy.  Meaning that the end justifies the means -- as long as we get what we want OR are told we should want.  Bottom line is -- if I knowingly buy from thieves then I am no better they.

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Venson,
 
I like the serial number idea.  Ebay has the deepest pockets and perhaps some of the brightest computer minds in the world.  But when the eBay president was asked (I think it was 20/20 t.v. interview about 1-1/2 yrs. ago) why is theft going on and her reply was eBay was a somewhat new company and called it "an adolescent" and so "it takes time" to get the theft problem resolved.  Nothing stands in eBay’s way of collecting their monies and growing their business and protecting their technologies.  But the common lowlife can profit big using eBay as a hiding place all the while their stolen goods go to the highest bidder in the US and/or Worldwide.  Not a bad days work for the common lowlife.
 
Dyson pricing and its weight have always been its biggest issues.  But since it is James Dyson’s company and not anyone else’s, then the guy can do as he pleases.  He can grow it or drive it into the ground - because it is his.  
 
RE: eBay theft.  Not just expensive Dyson’s are being pinched and sold on eBay but cosmetics, pet medications, etc.  I even saw an eBay buyer buys his hypodermic needles (sold as pet medical supplies) and likewise off of eBay. - His prior purchases were mostly drug related.
 
To bad eBay allows these activities.  But if theft was removed then I’m sure eBay’s profits would decline.
 
 
 
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Reply #21 - 06/21/07 at 5:24pm
 
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 I even saw an eBay buyer buys his hypodermic needles (sold as pet medical supplies) and likewise off of eBay. - His prior purchases were mostly drug related.

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There is a logical explanation for this with an illogical twist: The insulin and syringes used to treat pets with diabetes is exactly the same as humans with one significant difference.  For humans, the expense is a medical deduction.  For pets, its not.  Same same but different.   ;)
 
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Reply #22 - 06/22/07 at 3:52am
 
Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 06/21/07 at 5:24pm:
Quote from Dyson INVENTS BIG on 06/21/07 at 4:56pm:



 I even saw an eBay buyer buys his hypodermic needles (sold as pet medical supplies) and likewise off of eBay. - His prior purchases were mostly drug related.

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There is a logical explanation for this with an illogical twist: The insulin and syringes used to treat pets with diabetes is exactly the same as humans with one significant difference.  For humans, the expense is a medical deduction.  For pets, its not.  Same same but different.   ;)

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Poppies...
http://stores.ebay.com/The-Poppy-Pod-Depot_W0QQcolZ2QQdirZQ2d1QQfsubZ0QQftidZ2QQ pZ4QQtZkm
 
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Reply #23 - 06/22/07 at 6:29am
 
Thanks D I B,
 
When I think of all the poppy seed rolls I've eaten and never felt a thing . . .
 
This is has got to be the most fantastic story I've ever read BUT it goes to show that, yes, where there's a will there's a way.  This reminds of way back in the early '60s when they snatched airplaine glue.  I thought it was the greatest stuff for putting model cars together but apparently somebody's kid made other discoveries to its powers and it was history. I can only wonder if some genius found a way to zonked off Elmer's Glue too.
 
People who are really bent on getting "looped" will manage to do it one way or another. It is of course most unfortunate that eBay, an online venue that has not only afforded me good buys but a lot of fun too, is abused in this fashion but assume there will always be someone looking to dodge and weave his or her way to some actually profitless goal AND nitwits like me will remain none the wiser.  I'm sure more stories like this will be told.  (Hopefully, none like the awful story of the fertilizer used ion the Oklahoma bombing.) I am also sure that not much can be done.  To outlaw every little thing that has a potential to be abused or to be potentially dangerous would bring about a great deal of squacking.  It's too much to stay on top of.  
 
Wish the President was more involved in making the downhill slide with poppy seed tea than with his politics.  I'd probably like him better half-lit.
 
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Reply #24 - 06/25/07 at 9:32am
 
Quote from Dyson INVENTS BIG on 06/21/07 at 4:56pm:


 But since it is James Dyson’s company and not anyone else’s, then the guy can do as he pleases.  He can grow it or drive it into the ground - because it is his.

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Some of us remember Crazy Eddie Antar and his "insane prices."  Former founder and Chief Executive of the now-defunct Crazy Eddie chain of electronics stores.  In business for 22 years.  Broke the fair trade laws in consumer electronics that banned retailers from selling products below suggested retail.  Also broke a  number of other laws which cost him $100 MILLION DOLLARS [the government took it away from him] and 7 years in federal prison for fraud, stealing, cheating, skimming, money laundering, inflating inventory and on and on.  Some of the consequences for doing whatever he and his cousin Sam please.  Did I mention cousin Sam 'ratted him out' as the parlance goes.
 
Details  on CNBC Wednesday night at 10 pm June 27.  All happened over 20 years.  Cousins back together to talk about it.  Check local TV listings for details.  Now 59 Eddie spends most of his free time babysitting his grand children in Brooklyn where he lives.  
 
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Reply #25 - 06/25/07 at 1:33pm
 

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Broke the fair trade laws in consumer electronics that banned retailers from selling products below suggested retail.  
 
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Hi Carmine,
 
Thanks for the info.  There really was such a law?  Ugh!
 
It seems to contradict the line of thinking that "de-monopolized" big company's like Ma Bell by hindering  competition.  Not that that legal gesture really helped by the look of things as they stand in present time.  Anyway . . .
 
A manufacturer has to get paid what it requires no matter what or there is nothing to put on store shelves.  In turn, vendors are obviously not going to sell something without making a profit for themselves too.  The unhindered process might well lead to what we could call reasonable pricing, a win for everyone.  The fact that business is allowed to ultimately put a ring in the nose of the buying public is not good news.  
 
Consumer protection laws are good to have in place regarding the allowance of "think time" after a purchase and a window of opportunity to return goods but we have a right to opt and choose pricing individually satisfactory to ourselves and our government should whole-heartedly support us in that as well.
 
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Reply #26 - 06/25/07 at 6:00pm
 
Me again . . .
 
I ran my feeling per my last post by my employer this afternoon and -- maybe because he's a business owner-- he feels its perfectly okay for manufacturers to dictate to vendors as regards the prices their products are sold for.  His bottom line on this is that the consumer ultimately does have the choice to buy the product in mind from another maker elsewhere.  Would that it were that an approach this generic worked for appliance buying as well as it does on occasion for buying perscription drugs.
 
It won't be much of a surprise to me if someone posts an, "Oh grow up," but the more I think about it the more I advocate digging around for the most reasonable price possible for the brand/model you want.  And I do mean reasonable, as in "fair",  NOT dirt cheap.  I don't expect to buy a quality item for a for little or nothing but at least within a range where the actual wholesale price and vendor mark-up balance out nicely to make a purchase a valuable one to the buyer and not a loss to the seller.
 
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Reply #27 - 06/28/07 at 2:26pm
 
Well gang,
 
Just when I was about to forget the whole thing . . .
 
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-ex-prices28jun29,1,7706061.story
 
The link leads to an article regarding the Supreme Court's decision to allow price fixing by manufacturers.
 
Another day, another dollar
 
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Reply #28 - 06/28/07 at 2:49pm
 
Good news for the independent vacuum cleaner stores.
 
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Reply #29 - 06/29/07 at 3:50am
 
Hi Carmine,
 
Per the NY Times Online, dissenting Justice Stephen Breyer put forth an estimate that retail price fixing agreements translated to a higher annual average bill for a family of four of about $750 to $1,000.
 
Quoting Justice Breyer -- “The upshot is, as many economists suggest, sometimes resale price maintenance can prove harmful, sometimes it can bring benefits.  But before concluding that courts should consequently apply a rule of reason, I would ask such questions as, how often are harms or benefits likely to occur? How easy is it to separate the beneficial sheep from the antitrust goats?”
 
“My own answer,” he concluded, “is not very easily.”
 
I'm all for purveyors of goods prospering but would like to feel more assured that the people who buy what they sell get more out of the deal than just higher prices.
 
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