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/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl General >> Vacuum Cleaner Forum >> BEST BUY And Sunday Parade /cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1128267837 Message started by Carmine_Difazio on 10/02/05 at 11:43am |
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Title: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/02/05 at 11:43am If you look at your Sunday newspaper, you'll see the VAX line featured for sale AND low and behold the Eureka BOSS Smart Vac upright. Dyson gets a mention with a $549 Low Reach (I believe). BEST BUY encouraged dyson to enter and launch the line in June 2002. 3 years later there's a new guy (VAX) in town with the end cap real estate (along with HOOVER). And BEST BUY dropped the 12 months no interest to $149 (just for the Eureka). Very i-n-t-e-r-e-s-t-i-n-g. ! What went so wrong? Matt what are you doing to keep dyson in the limelight at BEST BUY in Woodbridge VA? Any recent visits, meetings and sales pitches to the BB crew. Maybe the new dyson sales numbers to influence BEST BUY to continue to highlight and push your line? BEST BUY in Woodbridge VA is a tough cookie for vacuum sales. You got some some new plans? Things are not looking good Mr. C. Not good at all. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 10/02/05 at 11:57am How about the siemens add for washers and dryers in the usa today paper insert, get a free vacuum with a major appliance purchase, call b.s.h. home appliancesfor details. W onder who that could be?. OLD-TIMER |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 10/02/05 at 1:55pm Carmine, as usual you only present enough info to make your argument. Hoover did not get any space in the ad. The Eureka got no more mention than Dyson. It is BS like this that really shows stupidity. You may be on to something with the end cap space. Look at what happened to Hoover when Dyson took it over. What went so wrong then? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/02/05 at 2:06pm I beg to differ kind Sir. HOOVER Steam Vac is very prominent in the ad. AND HOOVER and VAX share the end cap positions in BEST BUY in Woodbridge VA. BEST BUY knows the best sellers to premier. If it could they have the HOOVER FUSION, but for the time being the closest is the EUREKA BOSS SMART VAC. Truth is never BS or stupid. It is the truth. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 10/02/05 at 2:18pm So now we are comparing vacuums to steam vacs. That is rather stupid. Truth does not come from your mouth so it must be stupid. Best Buy premiered the Dyson for at least 2 years so maybe they do know something after all. I keep forgetting that you are not familiar with updated marketing. No brand will take top billing forever, although you think bagged models should. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 10/02/05 at 2:18pm Why dont you two kiss and make up, you bicker back and forth like 2 old ladys. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/02/05 at 2:28pm You're funny Old-timer. Did you notice that the Siemens is identical to the VAX? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 10/02/05 at 2:35pm Yes carmine, i did its bosches old upright , that is also their laundry eqipment, the vax is bosche/siemems old upright, |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by justasking2 on 10/02/05 at 8:18pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
So in a month when dyson is on the end cap you will be singing its praises on a miracolous turnaround? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/02/05 at 8:32pm I think Matt said Christmas time 2005 for dyson to acquire the space. We'll have to wait and see if that is correct. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by guess_who on 10/02/05 at 8:44pm Hi all, I am having a heck of a time. My computer threw a fit on me the other day and is in the shop. I can't for the life me remember what my password is. So I've temporarily registered as "guess who" until we get my computer off the bricks in a few days and I can start retrieving data to pass on to the "new baby". That said . . . I was in my Best Buy just yesterday and actuially found a plug -- an electrical strip all the way at the back of a low shelf. (Carmine, our Best Buy just does not want to make it easy to test stuff there. Are they telling us something?) Anyway I turned on the purple Vax model and was very impressed by its suction at the hose end but really had no way of telling how well its wussy brush roll did on the low-pile store carpet. It of course did pick up loose stuff on top of the rug but that's not much of a test for the ability to deep clean. Also, noted that what appeared to be a switch for the brush roll was frozen in the "on" position and the cord reel would not lock once the cord was extracted. Not a confidence builder for a prospective buyer. In any event, my other observation is that when I see people shopping for vacuums at Best Buy -- I'm there quite often as the store is just a few blocks from my place -- I generally notice people looking to buy the cheapest cleaner they can. Though the young whipper-snappers on the floor do try to steer them to the higher-priced models a good deal of shoppers pass. A couple yesterday settled on Hoover's EmPower. I didn't notice the price but saw it again today at Costco for $99.00. Three-hundred-dollar-and-above vacuums do not seem to be fast movers here. I am assuming that's due to economic concerns. Rentwise, just paying to have a floor to vacuum is a pretty expensive deal. Nonetheless, I am a bit surprised that I haven't witnessed a better number of shoppers taking a chance on more than buck-fifty Hoovers as Best Buy aggressively is and always selling "insurance" at check-out. Customers are religiously asked by cashiers if they want to purchase a service contract that allows "no-questions-asked" return of goods, replacement of the item or a store credit. Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/03/05 at 7:10am Excellent observations on BEST BUY and its customers with regard to vacuum purchases. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 10/03/05 at 8:48pm Hi Venson, yoy are right on the about big box department stores, if a customer is looking for high end or semi high end vacuums, lets say over the 300.00 mark. they want to make sure that they some type of protection against repair issues, just had a customer bring into our shop a hoover dual V quad brush system with a blown gear drive box [its usually the center gear of the 3]. He knew it was a warranty job but did not want to go thru the hassle of finding a warranty dealer over 125 miles away. Any ways it was a 249.00 hoover , next time he's looking for a cleaner he will think of us now. What i'm trying to say is that the big box stores are eventually only going to cater to the consumers that only care about price only. If price is sacrificed something else has to be also, and its usually service. B.T.W. this is the busiest we have been in a very long time, both in sales and service. regards, old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by guess_who on 10/04/05 at 7:54pm Thanks Old-Tmer . . . you know you're business extremely well and the sharing of your knowledge has always been much appreciated by me. All the best, Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 10/04/05 at 8:06pm Thank you Venson, should Carmine and I start charging for lessons, Thank you for considering us vacuum professors. I dont mind helping out any one thats interested in this business, its not a very glamourous occupation but it pays the bills and then some, This can be done for a whole lifetime, remember V enson he who has the knowledge has the power, Good vibrations forever, old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/16/05 at 9:59am It had to happen. This week's Best Buy advertising supplement pits VAX and dyson side by side. $299.99 for the VAX with Turbo tool and Flex-n-hold nozzle featured versus $429.99 for the DC14. Very interesting vacuum marketing by Best Buy stores. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by VacOMatic on 10/16/05 at 1:08pm If I remember right, retail stores often follow a practice called "churning", where, for seemingly no reason, they will rearrange huge chunks of the floorplan so that when you go to buy whatever on asile 6 in the front, it will now be in asile 29 in the back, etc. I assume store management is trying to make customers "see" more of the store and possibly buy stuff they would have otherwise not considered? COSTCO does this frequently (good trick considering how much stuff they have to move around!). Our Best Buys do it too. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/23/05 at 9:38am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
For the second straight week, Best Buy is advertizing the VAX and Dyson (DC14 Animal instead of the All Floors) for $249.99 and $549.99 respectively. The VAX comes with 15,000 bonus reward zone program points and the dyson with the free toy vacuum. Very interesting! Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/06/05 at 12:10pm VAX gets the special sale feature this weekend in BEST BUY. $299.99 Dyson DC14 Low Reach with play vacuum for $459.99. I would like to know how many get sold with Sears advertsing the DC14 All Floors after 10 percent mail in rebate for $387. That's $173 lower price. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 11/06/05 at 12:16pm DYSOON. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by mmc on 11/06/05 at 5:51pm such hate........ old-timer wrote:
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/07/05 at 3:40am That's a harsh judgement. It's just good old fashioned US competition and capitalism. Alive and well in the US vacuum industry. And possibly unexpected by dyson and its employees. Welcome to the real world of USA business. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Mike_W. on 11/07/05 at 5:11am mmc wrote:
Do you mean like this statement by dualcyclone, "Ridding the earth of "Hoover" once and for all would be a wonderful thing". http://www.whatsthebest-vacuum.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=wtb-vacuum;action=display;num=1121682988 I did not see you comment about this statement when it was said. You see, it is not just one-sided. My take on these statements is that they really are not needed. HOOVER, Dyson, ORECK, Dirt Devil, etc. can coexist. Mike W., Moderator |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/07/05 at 7:02am I have never known the vacuum industry in the USA to be a one vacuum market. NEVER. There have always been many different makes and models to choose from at all different prices, budgets, likes and dislikes, and personal needs and requirements. It's what makes this business and the industry what it is and has been for so many years. It's very competitive and cut throat. The strong survive. The weak do not. My compliments to ORECK (over 40 years), HOOVER (almost 100), ROYAL (over 100), ELECTROLUX (over 80), EUREKA (over 90) and the many others that have made the journey and are still here and doing well. We will have to wait and see on the rookies. Time will tell if they have the business mettle and savvy to compete in the USA. Horrah! Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/10/05 at 7:52pm After getting the Sunday spot, BEST BUY has a full page length ad for the VAX X3 in today's "A" section of the Washington Post. The ad's mantra: Now you're not only cleaning easier, you're cleaning faster. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/13/05 at 1:54pm Electrolux gets the BEST BUY feature sale this week. VAX and dyson relegated to the standard sale lineup. DC14 Animal which appears to be emerging as the "Greater Dyson" over the Ball is STILL priced at $549 with the play dyson. Still too high for my liking. Especially with Sears price of $485. What will happen to dyson prices after the play dyson offer expires? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 11/13/05 at 2:01pm Let me guess Carmine, a CLOSEOUT sale. It would be nice for them to go back crying to the dealers. They did it to themselves. ROOKIES. old-timer :'( |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by VacOMatic on 11/13/05 at 4:06pm In the USA and most of the capitalist world's consumer driven economies, how can a retail business get people in to their stores to consume stuff that they may not really need? Posibilities include: 1. cut prices 2. push something "new" 3. offer unique service BestBuy seems to be doing cycles of 1 and 2. Wrt recent vacuums, first the Dyson, then the Vax. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 11/13/05 at 4:21pm Vac-o- matic, watch and see where the VAX prices go in 3 months, will you bet me they wont go down, big box stores are all about the price, what else do you get for your money, free delivery? free assembly? expert repairs?. big box market nitch on vacuums is under 299.00, and at that the on line stores cut their throats, how many dc-14's been sent back to best buy because of the internet, B.T.W. map pricing is also a joke. Check it out. The new electrolux oxygen 3 is already being sold on the internet for dealer cost. And most stores dont even have them yet. I'm willing to bet you that they cant and wont be stopped. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/20/05 at 9:42am After several weekend ads for the DC14 Animal at $549 BEST BUY is trying the DC14 All Floors at $429. Still not as good as the dyson prices at Sears at $387 for the DC14 All Floors or LNT and Bed Bath & Beyond with an additional 20 percent off the dyson sales prices. Balancing the DC14 feature ad at BEST BUY is the Bissell bagless for $125. I wonder what make will sell better for BEST BUY? BISSELL or dyson? Time will tell what is left standing and what is left selling. The competition is heating up. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 11/20/05 at 2:52pm No doubt that low price will sell the most. That does not equate to the best vacuum being sold. Chevy outsells Lexus. Which is the better auto? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/20/05 at 2:57pm Whatever is more profitable is better for business. BISSELL held the end cap space for a long time at BEST BUY. I suspect it will again in 2006. For how long and how sure are you that dyson will? Time will tell. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 11/20/05 at 3:01pm B.M.W. OLD-TIMER |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 11/20/05 at 8:12pm "Whatever is more profitable is better for business. BISSELL held the end cap space for a long time at BEST BUY. I suspect it will again in 2006. For how long and how sure are you that dyson will? Time will tell. Carmine D. " About as certain as you were that Dyson was gone. You missed that one so please do not keep making a fool of your self. Time is telling already. There is no time like the present so move into it and get out of the past. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by RAT on 11/20/05 at 10:19pm I was at Best Buy the other day and all of the bagless vacuums were absolutely filthy. With the exception of the Dysons, the filters were caked in filth. Even the Dyson's looked filthy with the dirty bins. Even though the Dyson's don't clean as well as some other vacuums, I can see why many bagless vacuum customers would choose to spend more and buy a Dyson rather than deal with emptying a competing model with far less sanitary dirt collection system. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/21/05 at 6:43am Two dysons are gone from BEST BUY: the DC11 and the DC07. The DC15 is next. At best (no pun intended) the DC14 may remain at a substantially reduced price from today. VAX bagless line (2 models) was added in June 2005. Electrolux bagged line ( upright, canister and stick) was added in October 2005. Dyson was diminished. You don't cull one brand and add others if it's doing well. The brands and models that stay are the ones selling well. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Jack on 11/21/05 at 9:48am Cull? The Dyson's portion of the run is larger than ever in Best Buy and average price points are still higher than early this year. Some company's runs may still be the same models as two years ago at the same or lower average price points, but it would not seem something to brag about. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by RAT on 11/21/05 at 10:41am I think the Electrolux bagged model will be a lot more competition than the Vax for Dyson. The Electrolux upright is very clean looking compared to the very filthy bagless models. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/21/05 at 5:26pm Jack wrote:
I'm going to say this again so everybody can read it again. Dyson is headed for oblivion at BEST BUY. ONE dyson model will remain, the DC14, and at a much lower price and competed by others. You and others can disagree just as you did when I said the DC11 wasn't worth $500, and the DC07 was dropped from BEST BUY, and the DC15 sales were so poor at BEST BUY that dyson would have to lower prices. 3 predictions made. 3 predictions right. I'm 3 for 3. When the DC15 is dropped by BEST BUY, I'll be 4 for 4 and when the DC14 is left, I'll be 5 for 5. You can argue with the facts but don't expect to change them. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by RAT on 11/21/05 at 5:32pm So you don't think that the sales of DC15's will increase with the price drops? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/21/05 at 5:55pm RAT At $499 the dyson DC15 is not selling at BEST BUY. What dyson did by lowering the price $100 was to impugn the integrity of the vacuum. $50 like I said would have been believable. Just like the DC07 from $399 to $349. But $100 in less than 5 months. BAD marketing of the DC15 from the start and still. It begs the question by buyers what's wrong with this vacuum? The DC15 is the best selling reason to buy an Electrolux Oxygen at Best Buy. Compare the two for quality and craftsmanship. The Electrolux wins with all consumers everytime. DC15 is history at BEST BUY. It's just a matter of time. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by guess_who on 11/21/05 at 7:13pm Carmine, Thank you, thank you, thank you. It would appear that buyers and management for many chain/big box stores, etc., don't seem to notice or have knowledge that people, once interested in a product, will return now and then to see if a high-priced item they have in mind to buy has been lowered in price a "little bit." Severe drops in price do make many a would-be consumer wonder when a high-priced item, say the DC-15 with its $600 market entry, drops markedly in price. What else is one made to think except that maybe the item is not all it should be and maybe worthless at any price in light of even further lowered pricing. Dyson would have been much better off with more consumer friendly prices or possibly even venturing for a slow build of public interest by looking for a little exclusivity by limiting itself just to vacuum shops. A vacuum shop at least usually offers demonstration by relatively competent personnel. My Best Buy sets the box out on the floor and the cleaner on a shelf and now more than ever before don't bother asking specifics. In any event, I reiterate the many times during my tours of the stores where I've heard shoppers saying, "I don't care what it does, I'm not spending $600 on a vacuum cleaner." All the best for the holidays, Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by VacOMatic on 11/22/05 at 12:00am dodging the lines of young adults staking out overnight for the Xbox launch tomorrow at our BestBuy, I noted a buncha floor samples of vacs including both Dyson and Hoover. Most of them looked like they were in sad shape, full of dirt and with strings wrapped around brushrollers. The Dysons (not ball) were as low as $200 while one of the Hoover Windtunnels (didn't see the model number - was not top of the line) ran for around $50. Have other BestBuy-ers seen for-sale floor sample vacs in sad shape? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by guess_who on 11/22/05 at 12:38am Hi, On occasion but as I said, my local Best Buy doesn't let the goods touch the ground. Every vacuum has to be viewed on a shelf that is somewhat higher than counterheight. Vacuums have to be lifted down either by customers or salespersons for demos. Everything is on the floor at my local PC Richards. My Best Buy's thing with stacking must be some sort of perceived sales strategy. Though it's a very large store they seem to want to pack it full with as many rows of merchandise as possible. All demo vacuums usually suffer mishandling. Machine's with bags improperly in place or missing are used for demonstrations. Matter of fact I've begun to believe the vacuum to buy is whatever brand/model best survives the abuse of mishandling while on display. Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 11/22/05 at 6:04am "I'm 3 for 3. When the DC15 is dropped by BEST BUY, I'll be 4 for 4 and when the DC14 is left, I'll be 5 for 5. " I am going out on a limb and predicting that the DC14 like the DC07 will also be replaced in all stores someday. I also predict that it will be replaced by another model from Dyson. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/22/05 at 6:37am You might be right (that you are going out on a limb). Personally I like the dyson play toy for a replacement. I'm not going to ask HARDSELL what he sells and why? He won't answer. I can make that prediction with 100 percent certainty. Or, is he in the predictions' business or business of predictions now? :D Here's mine. The DC15 is history at BEST BUY. Just a matter of time. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 11/22/05 at 8:03pm "I'm not going to ask HARDSELL what he sells and why? He won't answer. I can make that prediction with 100 percent certainty. " I sell nothing. Another failure on your part. "Or, is he in the predictions' business or business of predictions now? " Just mimicking an old fool. Unless you can predict something that is not inevitable you should give up. "Here's mine. The DC15 is history at BEST BUY. Just a matter of time. " You are right Carmine. DC15 will leave BB. You were just told why on another post. BB does not keep selling last years products. You also said that Dyson would not last through the year and that bagless was on the way out. Why hasn't Hoover concentrated on a new bagger rather than bagless. This is true for most all other brands. LOL you COF. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 11/22/05 at 8:28pm Here's my prediction, best buy will still sell the dyson, but the price will be cut by a huge margin, they will sell it at under 300.00 for the dc-14, they will be in line with other high end bagless uprights, such as the vax, I'm sorry guy's but the trend for pricey bagless portable vacuum is almost over, from our stores retail experience not to many customers ask about dyson anymore, or if they do ask now the question asked is it worth it, this will be my last post for anything to do with dyson, till the start of the new year. I also know by saying this that it takes some companies rep's job a lot harder. But come to think of it we cant think of any company rep's, that didn't feed us a line of b.s. regards, old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/23/05 at 3:31am Old-timer: Excellent prediction. Agree. I have to laugh how my one prediction on January 2 2005 about BEST BUY and other retailers culling and dropping the dyson line caused such a furor. For mere product users, that one post kept Bruce, Justasking2, HARDSELL, and a host of others (the latest a supposed College student with a DC15) busy on the Forum all the past year. Amazing how persistent and enthusiastic these dyson users are when it comes to their household vacuums. They come the Forum day after day, week after week, month after month, for a year taking turns responding to my posts and praising their dysons. They should all get a group award from dyson for their performances. At least a free play dyson for Christmas. ;D Jack, Matt mmc don't forget to add these proud dyson users to your gift list for Christmas. At least a Christmas card for all their hard earned work. He who laughs last laughs best. HAPPY THANKSGIVING. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by justasking2 on 11/23/05 at 10:09am As stated before, I don't think it is my enthusiasm for dyson that keeps me responding to your posts. It is the smug condescending and dishonest way you treat dysons and thier users. I happen to be online most days and to keep a page bookmarked for an oppurtunity to take on a schoolyard bully every now and then is quite entertaining. To be honest had you acted the same way on any number of a variety of boards I like to read you would have made a regular poster of me. I most often have seen this prediction brought up when you make other "predictions" while claiming some perfect past record. It just happens to be a favorite example of you claiming something as fact that isn't and a wildly off target prediction. I also believe when others disagreed with it you were eager to have it brought up again so you could "laugh last". I for one just want to make sure you have the opportunity to have that last laugh in about a month when dyson is indeed out of Best Buy. ;) |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/23/05 at 1:21pm THank you, perhaps we can laugh together justasking2. I thought I'd share this story with you since you like to point out that I am Catholic. You know Bob Novak, I'm sure. Bob is the newsman, journalist, and analyst. He is Catholic. I frequently see him at Mass at St. Patrick's Church in Washington DC. Recently he was on a flight to Hawaii and was bumped and shoved by another male passenger. Bob reciprocated in kind and the flight authorities had to intervene. Reminds me of Jesus and the money changers. Being Catholic or of any religion doesn't give others a license to abuse you verbally or physically. I don't roll over for others to get away with crudeness and incivility. Like Bob Novak, I'm a target too and have been on this Forum because of my opinions about your favorite vacuum brand. I reciprocate in kind. I'm honored and even flattered that so many dyson enthusiasts are compelled to defend their product against me. It gives me and my dyson opinions credibility. Thank you and all your cohorts for the favor and privilege. HAPPY THANKSGIVING. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by justasking2 on 11/23/05 at 2:49pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Carmine you still don't get it, you are not the target you are the one attacking a product that others defend. I do not attack your opinions, I applaud them, what I call out is when you state your opinions as fact. I did not target your religion I just enjoy ribbing you about how you have used it as a defense when you get cornered on facts or moral issues. I don't get how a bunch of people calling out misleading and exagerated statements can increase your credibility. I think I get the sum of your arguments: Dyson will never have any impact on the vacuum market, Dysons will be pulled out of thier top retail partners any day now, most people who buy a Dyson return it, you can be number one in market share and still be a niche product, and all who say they enjoy the machine are either to stupid to know the difference or secret agent Dyson spy's out to get Carmine. In the spirit of Thanksgiving try a positive spin take a break on the multiple daily dyson attacks for a day (no one on this forum likely has more dyson posts than you) comment on something you do like for a day or two it is bound to cheer you up and improve your paranoia. Still love my Dyson's! |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/23/05 at 5:40pm You don't get it. This is my lifelong love and passion. I enjoy it. You and others who defend your favorite brand at all costs add credence to my opinions. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/04/05 at 12:05pm HEAD to HEAD this week. Electrolux canister and Upright for $499 vice DC15 for the same price. The rubber match up. Dyson is going down and out for the count at BEST BUY. Look what contender is making a surprising appearance with a $30 BB Gift Card: THe IRobot Roomba. Congrats. Expect to see the IRobot advertised more in the vacuum pages. It's here in the USA big box retailers to stay. (I told you so here). Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 12/04/05 at 7:37pm "Look what contender is making a surprising appearance with a $30 BB Gift Card: THe IRobot Roomba. Congrats. Expect to see the IRobot advertised more in the vacuum pages. It's here in the USA big box retailers to stay. (I told you so here). " Talk about a niche product. You told us a lot Carmine. You just left out the pertinent facts. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/05/05 at 3:11am I would say that that the IRobot Roomba vacuum is as "niche" as the Regina Elecktric Broom. BTW, HARDSELL, you were called out by Tiger for a recent post you made on a thread. Tiger posted on the front page of the Forum above on vacuum performance tests. Did you miss it? Or avoiding on purpose? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 12/05/05 at 6:32am I must have missed it . I will try to get to it. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/05/05 at 6:44am On another thread I saw Hardsell talk about a gimmick Oreck used to show performance. I thought that might be a good topic to persue, since there are a few I've seen thru the years some dealers have used. What do you consider as a gimmick and why?Why do you think the manufacturer used it and how would you make it work for you? Tiger 21 Allow me to help. From the thread on Performance or Gimmick. BTW the IRobot Roomba is as "niche" as the Regina Electrik Broom in cased you missed that too. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 12/05/05 at 6:45am "On another thread I saw Hardsell talk about a gimmick Oreck used to show performance. I thought that might be a good topic to persue, since there are a few I've seen thru the years some dealers have used. What do you consider as a gimmick and why?Why do you think the manufacturer used it and how would you make it work for you? " Is this what you are referencing? This was directed to the general forum and not just me. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/05/05 at 6:51am I took it to be to you since you raised the issue and called it a "gimmick." I believe David illustrates the light weight of his Oreck against a milk container too! Gimmick? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/13/05 at 2:52pm BEST BUY stock is down over $5 a share in intra day trading. Two major Wall Street brokerage firms downgraded their ratings on BEST BUY to neutral. BB reported quarter 3 results below street estimates and is predicting poor sales for the Holiday Season. The problem: High operating costs. It appears BEST BUY is the only retailer with the bad news, poor results, and downgrades. Other retailers like Wal*Mart appear to be upbeat and on target for meeting estimates. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 12/13/05 at 3:03pm That's what they get for pushing the VAX. (No pun intented) LOL Bruce |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/18/05 at 12:14pm BEST BUY supplement gives the feature advertising to VAX for the eight days before Christmas. Roomba is right up there with the others for sale. The dyson DC14, not advertised for months, gets a conspicuous price drop of $30 down to $499. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENTi Post by guess_who on 12/27/05 at 5:53pm I went to my local Best Buy today to look around for post-Xmas eletronic bargains and of course happened into the vacuum department. The Dyson Ball and the "Animal" are conspicuously absent from their places. Only three other Dysons in the $400 to $450 range remanin. Has anyone else been at Best Buy today? Does this mean that maybe they ran out of them because of the Xmas rush or what? Yo no se nada . . . Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENTi Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/31/05 at 6:49pm guess_who wrote:
I predict and forecast that not only will the ball drop in Times Square tonight but the dyson ball will drop off the shelves at Target, Kohls, Sam's and yes even BEST BUY in the days, weeks and months ahead. For dyson collectors, now is the time to scoop them up. Take advantage of the 2006 discounts and if lucky store gift cards to make your purchases. The DC15 will soon be in scarce supply at US retailers and completely disappear from the USA. First it was the DC11 in Feb 2005. Now the DC15 in January 2006! Dyson dropped the ball again. Bye bye Ball. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/01/06 at 11:23am Conspicuously absent from the BEST BUY, Target, Kohl's and Linens & Things Sunday supplements in today's Washington Post is dyson. The only dyson ad is for SEARS and its the DC07 advertised at $399 with a caveat: The in store price is much cheaper. Where have you gone James Dyson? Your dyson followers rest their lonely eyes on you! Boo hoo hoo. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 01/01/06 at 4:09pm A new dyson closeout Special, buy a 500.00 dyson pencil sharpener, and they throw in a dc-14, and a dyson wheelbarrow. Adios Sir James. old-timer ;D |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/01/06 at 4:13pm Hello Old-Timer: SEARS is culling their existing DC07 line just as BEST BUY did in June 2005. Most likely to make room for other vacuum makes and models. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 01/01/06 at 4:17pm So Carmine who are the new PLAYERS going to be any thoughts. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/01/06 at 4:24pm Old-Timer: I think there will be some pleasant suprises for some and some not so pleasant surprises for others. Some new high end upright models, some new mid range canisters to round out the venue, and some new lightweight bagless vacuums with revolving brushes and on-board tools. Maybe even a cordless or two. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 01/01/06 at 4:32pm It looks like the canister power teams will make a big turn around this year , more and more people are starting to figure out that uprights are pretty useless in most applications. Unless your on one floor and dont have any furniture. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 01/01/06 at 5:11pm Hi Old-timer, You're starting to sound more like me in regards to canisters. I never could understand why so many people prefer uprights over canisters. IMO, canisters by far have always been more versatile for me. The only upright I still own is the Miele Art that was given to me by Miele for in-home evaluation. Last count, I have six canisters, one shop vac and my latest addition, the Lux Pronto 2 in 1 stick vac. I gifted another of the Pronto's to my business partner after seeing how great they work. He and his wife love it so far. Bruce |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 01/01/06 at 5:26pm Hello Bruce, we sell and install a lot of central vacuum systems, over 80% of our trade ins are high priced uprights you probally have a good idea of what brand i'm talking about it starts with a K . Peoples floor plans just do not include wall to wall carpeting anymore. Hence making uprights in these applications obsolete. Most of these trade ins are given away for a vacpan installed. The current price of a top end portable vacuum is exceeding the price of a 5 valve loaded central vacuum installed. Need i say more. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/06/06 at 1:31pm BEST BUY in Woodbridge VA has reduced the prices on ALL dysons in stock from $27 (DC15 ALL Floors) to $70 (DC14 Animal and BEST BUY Exclusive) depending on the model. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 01/06/06 at 1:39pm Is it a permanent or temporary (sale) reduction in price? Bruce |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/06/06 at 2:03pm PERMANENT MARK DOWNS except for further advertised sales that I think will start running soon. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by mmc on 01/24/06 at 8:26pm Well the "permanent" markdowns are back up to normal price. In other Best Buy news..........Electrolux is departing after a very short stint. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/25/06 at 3:11am Matt: How much is the DC15 Ball? $499 of course. Sounds permanent to me. And the roll back to the higher dyson prices begs the question: Did the lower dyson prices (usually to jump start sales) result in more sales? Or did they elicit criticism and complaints from other retailers selling dysons at full prices? (And who couldn't sell their dyson stock especially during the Holiday season). Electrolux and BEST BUY parted ways, in part, because of Electrolux's refusal to lower prices even during the Holiday sales season. I'm sure there are other reasons as well but I suspect that was the deal breaker. BEST BUY is not worried about losing the Electrolux upright. But dropping the line, leaves a "vacuum" in the mid to high end canisters at BEST BUY. (pun intended). Who will get the opportunity to step in at BEST BUY with its canisters? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/29/06 at 3:26pm BEST BUY and VAX X5 get my best ad award in today's Sunday newspaper. At least here in the DC area. An absolutely gorgeous high gloss one page two sided (12 inch by 12 inch) stand alone advertisement for the VAX5. Beauteous. With all the specifics and details. AND the VAX website: VAXUSA.COM. Sale goes through Feb11 WITH 30,000 Reward Zone points. Worthy of framing. VAX is the only UK vacuum brand with documented sales evidence of 80,000-90,000 units sold CONSISTENTLY for months and even years. That's a fact according to the UK experts who track and report on such statistics. Nice bagless: Cordwinder, Lifetime HEPA, 4 scented filters, traps 100% of pollen and ragweed, Turbo tool for pet owners, no bin filter, on/off brush roll, bottom release dirt cup just like the most expensive bagless and $249-$299. Excellent product quality: a combination of lightweight aluminum for stress areas and high impact ABS thermoplastic. Nice brush roll too AND a headlamp! Worth the money IMHO. BEST BUY exclusive. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 01/29/06 at 4:58pm And the bosch bagged and bagless turbojet uprights are still around , and the pricing is half of b.b.s price.These machines are bosch/ siemens old uprights. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Mike_W. on 01/30/06 at 3:44am VAX uprights have been available at vac shops for some time now. I also found out today that Sears is now carrying VAX. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/09/06 at 7:04am Yesterday's Washington Post had a special weekly BEST BUY advertising supplement. Exclusively for laundry appliances (17 percent of yearly new appliance sales) and vacuums (10 percent of yearly new appliance sales). The vacuums featured: Some Forumers' favorite bagless the DC07 and DC14 Animal (DC15 absent from the line up). $399 and $549 respectively. Nice graphics and photos with young children taking the dyson through the rug vacuuming chores. I thought it was a play dyson at first, but it was the real deal. HOOVER Windtunnel-Not the Self-Propelled (Rated Number 1 by Consumer Reports). $159 HOOVER Floormate (popular selling product) by all retailers' accounts. EUREKA BOSS Smart Vac (Consumer Reports consistently recommends as a best buy in vacuums). $140 Last but not least, both VAX models, exclusive to BEST BUY stores: $249 and $299. Can these be the BEST BUY best sellers? The "bread and butter" of their vacuum sales? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 02/09/06 at 11:34am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Very strange that neither of these vacuums are on the high and mighty CRI approval listing?? What's your excuss for this Carmine? Bruce |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/09/06 at 1:07pm Bruce wrote:
I don't have an excuse but several possible explanations. EUREKA has been a mainstay of the vacuum industry in the USA for almost 100 years. And the EUREKA Smart Vac has CR's and Good Huusekeeping seals of approval. VAX is too new in the USA for CRI ratings. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 02/09/06 at 1:19pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
You didn't answer my question. You know my opinion on CR's rather useless ratings and Good Housekeeping doesn't mean much to me either. I've seen their seals on all kinds of junk products that don't work. Why would a vacuum be any different. Since Eureka has been around for nearly 100 years why isn't it CRI rated ?? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by JimB on 02/09/06 at 1:23pm According to CRI's website neither Vax or Eureka appear to be active due paying members of CRI. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 02/09/06 at 1:39pm Carmine's excuss is that VAX is to knew in the USA and Eureka somehow magically is approved because Communist Reports and Good Housekeeping ratings are as "good as good". LOL |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by RAT on 02/09/06 at 2:09pm JimB wrote:
Vax and Eureka should have at least some of their models tested. Since Eureka has several hundred models, it's probably not cost effective to have each model tested. However, they could get by having a representative sample, or at a minimum several premium Eureka and Sanitaire models certified. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by seeme_vac on 02/09/06 at 5:06pm Vax was here before it was sold by Sears and a few independ vac stores Then Royal bought it and it left the usa so now its back ho hum |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/09/06 at 6:13pm Bruce wrote:
At the risk of repeating myself, I'll apologize for my redundancy. EUREKA and VAX are not the vacuum industry's standard bearers for vacuum industry leaders to follow. It's disingenuous for the highest priced bagless brand with its iconoclastic sales and profits to claim membership cost as a reason for not meeting minimum industry standards. It begs the question and raises the concern: Why? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by guess_who on 02/09/06 at 6:58pm You know -- I kind of liked the Vax I tried at BB. I just think it could stand a better tool set up. The integral hose/wand design is kind of nice but a more down to earth attachment set is needed. Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 02/09/06 at 8:33pm Carmine as usual has no logical answer. It is excusable for all brands except Dyson to forego the CRI approval by his standards. Goes to show how hard it is to digest crow. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 02/09/06 at 10:32pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
What a bunch of double talk! Who determines Eureka and Vax are not bearers of industry standards by which others manufacturers should follow? If they don't meet your criteria then it's ok to not have the CRI rating! Hilarious Carmine. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 02/09/06 at 10:46pm Any ways what good is an upright if you only have 2 9x12 carpets. I really dont like uprights , vax's an old failed design upright, that was unloaded on royal thru tti. Bosch could not make it work, Miele's uprights are put on the back burner , the art is a test in futility, Eureka/ electrolux a.b. uprights are destined for the scrap heap, Please guy's get of the upright kick. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 02/09/06 at 11:12pm old-timer wrote:
You said it old-timer!! Give me a quality canister any day of the week over an upright. My Miele S558 Silver Moon rocks!! |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 02/09/06 at 11:21pm Thanks, Bruce at least we know really where it's at.I just had to say it once and for all.Miele, Bosch, aerus/electrolux , and all the real heavy hitters are not uprights............... old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by DC15 on 02/12/06 at 10:33am Carmine, Please change the subjest from BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT to This weeks news paper supplements. It will cover more grounds. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by DC15 on 02/15/06 at 1:00pm Carmine, are you there? |
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Title: It no Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/16/06 at 7:39am DC15 wrote:
You'll note from this thread that the DC15 has not been advertised in BEST BUY sales supplements since long before October 2005. In early October the price dropped $100 but no advertised sales even during the prime Holiday season. DC15 no longer occupies the end cap but instead gets back shelve space among the others. You may also note that the DC15 has not been advertised by other retailers either in months. Not on TV. Not anywhere. It's fading. Sam's Club no longer stocks the DC15 Total Clean. It didn't sell well if at all. I think I'll keep this thread just as BEST BUY to track the developments with vacuums. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 02/16/06 at 8:07pm I have not seen any ads on the great Hoover Z. Where are they Carmine? Care to discuss it's failure so prematuraly? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by RAT on 02/16/06 at 9:09pm Curiously, Best Buy is selling the Hoover Z, at least on the web site. I don't go to Best Buy, so I don't know if it's offered in store. I hope that Hoover is working on a lighter weight bagged version. Carmine is correct in that a 18 pound version would be very nice. I believe bagged vacuums would be more popular if it were easier to purchase bags in bulk at discount prices. People get frustrated when its difficult to find bags for their vacuums. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by MrRogers on 02/16/06 at 9:59pm I'm currently in Tampa Bay, Florida and happened to stop in a Best Buy. I tried out the green Hoover Z with the L.E.D. lights (I forgot the model name). It was easily one of the worst high priced vacuums in the lineup, and especially paled in comparison to the Dysons, Vax's, and also the Dirt Devil D2 that they are now selling as well. One of the worst things about the Hoover is the weight distribution. After pushing and pulling this thing in the isle my arm started to strain. I strongly believe that women WILL NOT like the Z. For a $500 vacuum, it surely was not quiet enough. Even though the motor was quiet, the synchronized ratcheting noise from the self scraping hepa filter system was noticeably loud. I also had trouble closing the compartment that contained the wraped power cord. Perhaps I didn't wrap the cord up tight enough, or didn't distribute it evenly when I was wrapping it, but it was a pain in the a** to get that compartment shut. Asside from the flaws mentioned overhead, the Hoover Z has one major downfall.....its suction. It was terribly weak, and no pressure when I covered the attachment intake with my palm. The Dyson DC15, Vax X5, and the Dirt Devil D2 all had considerably greater amounts of suction than the Z. In my eyes, things will not be good for Hoover and their high priced Z, despite all of the glorious praise it may/may not recieve from consumer reports. While I was there, I also had the chance to check out the new Dirt Devil D2. For $160, the build quality isn't that bad, and the suction is adequate for typical household vacuuming. I plugged it in and proceeded to clean the isle that was not touched by the Z, and like the Z, it is quite loud. It seems that the lower you set the height selector, the louder it gets. It seems that dirt gets evenly distributed in the dual chamber system. After using it for 5 minutes, I removed the collection bin and inspected the pre-motor filter. As expected, the foam was experiencing dust build up, as the pleated hepa filter had a slight layer of dust build up as well. But for what you get for its price, it appears to be a decent choice for bargain shoppers, or anyone that just wants a basic vacuum. While I was there, I also decided to try out the Vax X5. Having seening the X5 on display at a department store on MacDill Air Force Base days earlier, I also tried it out in curiousity. I particularly liked the scented bin filters, and the automatic cord winder. What I would want on this thing, however, is a longer cord, a more aggresive brushroll, and maybe repositioning where that hose is connected, maybe at the base of the machine and not on the top of the collection bin. It seems that it has the potential to tip over. But from what I've seen, it seems like a good machine. But I wonder how the Vax and Dirt Devil would perform with alot more dust, pet hair, and typical consumer negligence in the mix. Anyways, after actually using the Hoover Z, I wont hesitate to say that it will be a tough pill for consumers to swallow, especially for its price. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by RAT on 02/16/06 at 10:26pm MrRogers wrote:
I will be very surprised if Consumer Reports gives a positive review of the Z. They've got to get the weight down and improve the weight distribution to make it less tedious to use in the upright position. I can only assume that Hoover is marketing this beast to either (1) sado-masichists, or (2) people who want a weight lifting workout when they vacuum. Just think of the marketing opportunities. With an Oreck, you only burn 50 KCAL per hour, but with the Hoover Z, your burn 500 KCAL per hour (or whatever the amounts might be.) The Z - Hoover's answer to counteract obesity. Reduce your weight and improve cardiovascular health by using the Hoover Z. Muscle tone will improve with each workout. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 02/16/06 at 11:54pm Thanks MrRogers for the reviews. It will help other prospective consumers in their decision making process. I also noted all the negatives you mention on the Hoover Z. Carmine seems to consistently think this POS machine will be around for quite some time. It has got to be one of the worse machines I've ever used and the weight distribution is WAY off. It's beyond me why anyone in their right mind would want to spend $500 for a vacuum with very poor suction beside risking the onset of carpal tunnel syndrome (CPS) from using it. The Dyson DC15 runs circles around it and all the other bagless machines you reviewed. No problem with the motor prefilter clogging either. Just pull it out every six months for cleaning, give the shroud a quick wipe and you're set to go. Try that with the Vax, DD or any other bagless on the market. The Z's pleated filter will certainly plug up within a short time and wear out from the metal clip constantly rubbing on each pleat as it slowly rotates. I mean it already has pi*s poor suction to start with. Then the consumer will be at the mercy of Hoover to have it replaced because Hoover designed it that way. LOL I'm again predicting the Hoover Z is the most ridiculous vacuum made by Hoover and will certainly fail in short order if not already. There's no doubt about it. You think the DC11 was bad. LOL Wait and see what happens to this pathetic beast. At least the DC11 had unsurpassed suction. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 02/17/06 at 12:11am RAT wrote:
The only problem is carpal tunnel syndrome will quickly set in and require surgery along with your aching back. The Hoover Z is the biggest joke in ANY vacuum ever designed and produced for $500 (or any price for that matter). The engineers that designed this "thing" had to be over-dosing on crack-cocaine. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/17/06 at 3:43am RAT wrote:
RAT: Consumer Reports is critical of the DC15 for the same reasons: Hard to use, bulky and awkward. I expect CR will comment on the weight and unusual form of the HOOVER Z also. The offsetting comment to the weight and form will be the HOOVER Z's function as 2 vacuums in 1. CR usually balances their reviews well. Obviously the HOOVER Z is not mainstream and not for everyone in the market for a new vacuum. It's a specialty model. Not an upright, not a canister: Both. A model for a niche vacuum buying market. I think HOOVER's timing couldn't be better for this concept vacuum. Canisters are making a come back with the popularity of hard wood floor coverings in the USA. Somebody once said something about timing being everything? HOOVER has a knack for timing as 100 years in the industry next year proves. That's the kind of milestone that makes investors like Warren Buffett take notice. Just as Kirby. You asked about the popularity of the VAX scented filters at BEST BUY in a previous post. They are very popular with women. The 4 seasonal varieties are functional as well as "stylish." BEST BUY staff demo the VAX (it's their exclusive brand) and the fragrance of the filters even with the high ceilings lingers for awhile afterwards. This impresses store clientele in the market for a vacuum. On the subject of styles, which is not one of your favorites when it comes to vacuums, women and men like the VAX look over other contemporary high priced bagless. VAX and BEST BUY are a good match. Good price and product match. I expect the VAX vacuum line to be a permanent vacuum brand for BEST BUY after other brands are culled from the shelves. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/17/06 at 4:13am "But for what you get for its price, it appears (the D2 Reaction from Dirt Devil) to be a decent choice for bargain shoppers, or anyone that just wants a basic vacuum. " Comments on the New Dirt Devil Reaction ******************************************** And a 4 year warranty. That's better than the industry warranty on most vacuums and twice as good as the highest priced bagless but at less than half the cost. VAX, D2 and HOOVER Z are ratcheting up the bagless upright competition in the major retailers. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by RAT on 02/17/06 at 9:44am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
If I were an advisor to Hoover, I would tell them to kill the Hoover Z immediately. Bruce is correct about the Hoover Z being a potential cause of carpel tunnel. In its current form, is a major liability for Hoover. Hoover has got to drop the weight and fix the weight distribution. Instead of farting around with a really inefficient bagless design, they need to just stick with bags on premium models. With each sale, throw in a 5 year supply of premium bags. Just by converting from bagless to bagged, Hoover could easily solve many of the Z's problems. I believe the weight would drop, the top heaviness would be diminished, and it wouldn't be too difficult to drop the weight without that rotating filter and ridiculous filter cleaning system. Hoover would do well to take the Oreck strategy and try to make bagged machines more palatable, particularly for the premium vacs. You sell the bags in bulk at a reasonable price, and you make them available at as many places as possible. Hoover should limit its exposure to bagless vacuums to the less than $100 market. Hoover should make it clear that premium vacuums use sanitary bags. Cheap vacuums require you to become intimate with the dirt. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 02/17/06 at 12:54pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Quit making excuses for this substandard monstrosity. At least the DC15 WORKS. Niche shmich! "Not an upright, not a canister: Both" What kind of double talk is this Carmine. Most modern day uprights do both, and much better I might add. Let's see, do I call it an upright or canister. I think I'll call it a canister today an upright tomorrow and a canister next week. What a crock! This thing doesn't come close to being classified a canister and gives the term a slap in the face. It's like a $500 lead brick sitting in the middle of floor. You'll have to sit it on a dolly if you want it to move around like a canister! And what's with the useless cord wrap feature. I fought with it for several minutes trying to wind the cord "just right" so the darned flimsy plastic door would close. I can see it now (if it remains on the market, which it won't). Consumers will quickly get fed up and manually wind up the cord and throw it on top of the beast when finished. The door will break off due to it's very poor and weak construction. They'll have to secure it with duct tape because it won't stay shut. What a joke! This thing is a HUGE failure! |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/17/06 at 3:34pm RAT: Sometimes, even in the vacuum cleaner industry, you have to shake things up alittle and do the unexpected and the unpredictable. Let the dust settle and see what happens. HOOVER is the trend setter in the industry. From the inception of the vacuum industry HOOVER leads the future in form and function. Only HOOVER can produce and market a forward looking concept vacuum like the HOOVER Z. Sure there will changes for the better. But you have to start with the concept and let it evolve. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 02/17/06 at 3:48pm Carmine , I dont think even you the vacuum guru, can save this thing. Even sanitaire or dual could't come up with something this bad. Bruce and Hardsell have you on this one, Thank god when it's gone. old-timer :D |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/17/06 at 4:28pm old-timer wrote:
Ah, ye of little faith. Doubt your doubts not your faith. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by RAT on 02/17/06 at 5:35pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
You may want to save your faith until you give the Z a test run. The Hoover Z is a sign of extreme negligence on the part of Hoover management. I have no doubts that the Z in its current form is a disaster. It is the most awkward vacuum I have ever used . |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 02/17/06 at 5:58pm Hi RAT, we all like to root for our favorite brands, but as Carmine says a dud is a dud no matter who makes it. At the risk of loosing my job i will say the following,I remember a great u.s.a. vacuum company, known for canisters, on the verge of being sold off, the biggest piece of junk they ever made was introduced to the vacuum market. It took almost 7 years to recover from it, although the new owners were stuck with the headache. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/18/06 at 3:36am RAT wrote:
Noted. Seeing is believing? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 02/18/06 at 2:22pm old-timer wrote:
Hi old-timer, Give us another hint who the company was ;) Bruce |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 02/18/06 at 2:44pm electrolux, now aerus /electrolux. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 02/18/06 at 3:19pm Thanks old-timer 8) |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by tiger21 on 02/18/06 at 5:01pm Old Timer, If I'm right you are referring to the Rennaisance. The motor I am told was the problem. When Joe Urso came in he said changes for the better would be made in the product line and we would regain our leadership and lead the industry like we used to. I am not gaging leadership in market share but putting forth better quality and innovations. I have seen so much change in the last 50 years . I saw what the company can do when change is needed and saw what poor management can do. Aerus still has a good set of engineers looking to make great products. There are going to be rough spots but the company has been doing pretty good over the last three years in improving sales and adding product. Tiger21 |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 02/18/06 at 5:22pm Hi Tiger21, your assumption is correct, although the motor was only a small part of the reni fiasco. The company has turned it around as of late. T he machine was never field tested before offering it to the general public, only some SPECIAL buddy branches had it under another model. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/18/06 at 5:35pm "Aerus still has a good set of engineers looking to make great products. There are going to be rough spots but the company has been doing pretty good over the last three years in improving sales and adding product. " Tiger21 i.e. the Trilobite, in large part due to Joe Urso. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 02/18/06 at 5:55pm Hi Carmine, the trilobite belongs to to the other electrolux company, electrolux a.b. of sweeden, they own eureka, and market the oxygen vacuums under the electrolux banner and the eureka banner. It's very hard to keep a heads up on all of this, Mr Urso sold them the trade mark electrolux , so they could market their products in north america under the electrolux name. Their were 50 million reasons why. regards, old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 02/18/06 at 6:04pm Thanks for the clarification old-timer ;) |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 02/18/06 at 6:15pm Your welcome, Bruce. The reni fiasco did nothing but send electrolux/aerus customers to the other side, i.e. miele, bosch, sebo, and the ones who just said the heck with it just bought $ 50.00 vacuums, never to spend big on a vacuum again. This is also the reasons that most good vac stores push central vacuum sales and installations. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/19/06 at 3:24am old-timer wrote:
Old-Timer: Was the robotic vacuum (now called the Trilobite) part of the sale to Electrolux AB Sweden along with the Lux name? Urso, the CEO of Lux (now Aerus) carried the banner and pursued the robotic vacuum at Electrolux USA (around 2000 when he combined forces with a battery maker for the robotic vacuum) before selling the name to Electrolux AB Sweden and becoming Aerus. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/19/06 at 10:16am Bruce wrote:
The Trilobite color, burnt orange, mirrors the colors of the rest of the Electrolux AB line: Aptitude, Oxygen, and Pronto. A similarity acoss the Electrolux AB Sweden vacuum cleaner product line. Carmine D. With two very glaring differences for the Trilobite that make it unlike the others in the Electrolux AB line up: The name Tribilite (vice Oxygen, Aptitude, and Pronto) and the price: $1800. At $1800 it's almost 4 times greater than the vacuums. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 02/19/06 at 11:24am Carmine, to the best of my knowledge i dont recall aerus ever being involved with robotics, if ever, it was just for a brief period of time, you may be right though. The a.b. electrolux name overseas is an absolute force in the appliance industry. It's very hard to keep track of who ownes what nowadays , look whats going on between maytag and whirlpool, for all we know it could be bought out by goodyear, or Dyson. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Trilobite on 02/19/06 at 5:56pm The Electrolux 'Trilobite' vacuum cleaner is Swedish through and through; from initial design concept, to actual manufacturing. You may have seen a 'Eureka' brand robot cleaner, few years ago: this is merely the trilobite (prototype) in different clothing. The first time the original prototype was ever seen publically, was on BBC Television, in the science/technology programme "Tomorrow's World", broadcast in May 1996; not 1997 as all the publicity material states! The machine was a blue-green colour, and could be commanded by a key-ring remote control. The machine had to be placed onto its charger (vertically), although the presenter did say that the engineers hoped to build in a feature of self-recharging. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/19/06 at 9:14pm I've noticed the conspicious absence of the words: "Never loses suction" with dyson's advertising by BEST BUY. I wonder why? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by justasking2 on 02/19/06 at 10:26pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Took a quick look at Best Buy's website pulled up the DC14 animal and it doesn't lose suction. I wonder why? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/20/06 at 3:18am Using this weekend's NEWSPAPER dyson adverstisings, none of the retailers use the words: Never loses suction. LNT: (Giving 20 percent off in violation of dyson MAP). "Root Cyclone technology is extremely effective at picking up tough materials." (DC14 Animal) HECHT's: (Giving 15 percent off in violation of dyson MAP). "Patented root cyclone technology to maintain suction." (DC07 All Floors) Kohl's: No verbage except "All Floors." (DC07 All Floors). BEST BUY: No verbage except twists and turns. (DC15) 4 major retailers with 3 different dyson vacuum models advertised in the SUNDAY NEWSPAPERs and the trade mark dyson verbage is conspicuously absent: NEVER LOSES SUCTION does not appear atol. I wonder why?? Could it be that those same industry approved organizations like ASTM, CRI, Consumer Reports and Good Housekeeping (loathed by a certain bagless brand and its fans) have combined forces to preempt dyson from making the "false" claims in NEWSPAPER printed advertising? These industry approved, standard making organizations will do that from time to time if necessary: They will "police" makers' claims and pressure them to eliminate/revise false claims. I wonder if that's what happened? Or could it be that one or more vacuum makers have "sued" or threatened to sue if the false claims are not omitted? That's a possibility too. In any event, and whatever the reason, the dyson trade mark words are conspicuously missing from advertised NEWSPRINT. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/20/06 at 3:50am old-timer wrote:
Hello Old-Timer: The two things about the Trilobite that don't fit in the mix of the Electrolux AB Sweden product line: The unusual name (vice the Oxygen, Aptitude, and Pronto) AND the high price $1800, almost 4 times greater than the vacuums' prices. EUREKA never was an innovator of great reknown in the vacuum industry. It's forte is copy and imitation (or buying the rights) and doing it on the cheap vice the competitors. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/26/06 at 4:34am Dirt Devil D2 Reaction gets the feature role in the Sunday BEST BUY supplement. The claims read: "Superior suction power that lasts." "Patented D2" technology for sustained suction and excellent performance at the nozzle. Features easy-empty filterless dirt cup, HEPA filter and rotating power brush to clean upholstery and stairs. $169.99 Just enough to wet the buyers' appetite. The 4 year product warranty is the icing on the cake that clinches the deal in the store. Dyson DC14 Animal for $549.99. Conspicuously absent: THe trade mark dyson mantra: NEVER LOSES SUCTION. As part of the "Spring" advertising campaign expect to see the HOOVER FUSION at Wal-Mart advertised for $128.88 with the claim: NO LOSS OF SUCTION. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by vacdocph on 02/26/06 at 7:22am Carmine So what has Aerus done in the pass year to improve there product ? Can you tell us about there motors they put into there vacuums today. Joe Urso has done what for Aerus ? Carmine you have the time to look into this also look into Joe Urso background. The trade name Electrolux was sold to Sweden Electrolux by Joe in the first years with Electrolux Joe is a very smart person he has Aerus today where he wants it to be this was Joe plan from the start . It is all about profit for Joe he has done great for Joe Urso . |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/27/06 at 7:03am vacdocph wrote:
As a business man, I have to respect those qualities in a CEO whether I personally like him or not. Without those qualities in the vacuum industry today, a company won't survive. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by vacdocph on 02/27/06 at 7:16am Carmine. There is a line to draw when you talk profit . The mafia is all in it for profit also. I was in management for years and to stay in management you show a profit but there is a line I could and would not cross and I said so long Electrolux and Joe Urso. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by JimB on 02/27/06 at 11:33am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I would not put any legal stake in this perhaps only an evolution in marketing strategy. Many of Dyson's advertisements are directly used to steer consumers to the Dyson official website where quotes like the below are ongoing and newly added. "FACT: ONLY DYSON MAINTAINS CONSTANT SUCTION. Other vacuums rely on bags or filters to trap the dirt so they clog and lose suction. Dyson technology uses centrifugal forces to separate the dirt out of the airflow. There's nothing to clog, so a Dyson vacuum cleaner doesn't lose its suction - ever." I fail to see how this can be construed as Dyson no longer making these claims due to litigation concerns. The above seems to be a clear and forceful claim and being on the official Dyson website seems like it would open up more litigation concerns than a newsprint ad. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/27/06 at 12:54pm JimB wrote:
That's why and what the present litigation in Federal court will determine. (IMHO) In the meantime, third party retailers are eliminating their exposure to a possible lawsuit by taking out the claims. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by JimB on 02/27/06 at 1:27pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
A huge assumption, that seems a lot like wishful thinking to argue a preconcieved prejudice and not based on documented fact. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/27/06 at 5:29pm JimB wrote:
I believe my depiction of the facts with respect to the vacuums' claims and makers' litigation accurately reflects the reality of the situation. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/04/06 at 8:08am Dyson is conspicuously absent from most ALL retailers' Sunday vacuum ads. Very present is HOOVER including the coveted SUNDAY PARADE, compliments of SEARS one of my favorite retailers. This week's PARADE is dedicated to the Oscar Awards, a very popular and widely read PARADE edition. I suspect the highest price bagless upright maker is depending on Aunt Ethel and Aunt Betsy to get the advertising word of mouth out to the hinter lands. :D Last minute updates to correct my post due to some late arriving data indicates that the most expensive bagless will appear in retailers' ads albeit not in the premier ad locations. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 03/04/06 at 11:44am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
The best and best selling usually aren't advertised. Most of those ads are to get customers in and then upsell to them. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 03/04/06 at 12:49pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I suspect Aunt Ethel and Aunt Betsy both have their arms in a sling since and are being treated for Carpal Tunnel after trying the Hoover Z out. By the way, how's your highest priced Hoover Z selling these days? You mark my words, your Hoover TANK is HOOVER DEAD! |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/04/06 at 1:27pm HARDSELL wrote:
As my good friend Bruce likes to say: Pure speculation. No factual backup except sales hype from the product hawkers. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/04/06 at 1:32pm Bruce wrote:
We've heard that already. It appears the more you say it, the more retailers are adding the HOOVER Z to their shelves and discontinuing your brand. Dyson........... iiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssssss ................................................ffffaaaaaaaaaaaddddddddddddddiiiinnnnnnnnnnggggggggggg...........................like Fantom did. Let's face facts, Bruce, you have to give consumers a better motor in a $500 product than a $50 Panasonic one fan motor. Cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 03/04/06 at 1:39pm Did you examine the motor in the Z? It looks about the same size as an Oreck. LOL The suction is right down there with the Oreck too. ;D Ridiculous for a $500 vacuum I'd say. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/04/06 at 1:49pm Bruce wrote:
And both HOOVER and ORECK beat your brand in rug performance. Both winners. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 03/04/06 at 2:03pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
My brand is Miele and you already know how well it performs. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 03/04/06 at 2:57pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
So you agree. Hoover is saturating the market with their dud. They are becoming very desperate because of poor sales. The Hoover Z will continue struggling with sales with a price tag of $500. You're going to have to admit it sooner or later Carmine. It's a hopeless cause... the Z dud is hoover dead! And I'll be right there to tell you "I told you so"! How's that working for you? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 03/04/06 at 3:28pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
In your mind pops. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 03/04/06 at 3:30pm How many Dysons have copied Hoover or Oreck vs the other way around? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/04/06 at 3:31pm I agree with RAT on this matter. More and more vacuum makers like HOOVER, EUREKA, DIRT DEVIL, VAX and others are going to produce bagless uprights to knock off the overpriced underperforming dyson brand. They already have and the evidence in a short time is convincing: Wal-Mart with the HOOVER FUSION; Kmart with the Reaction: SEARS with the HOOVER Z and VAX; BEST BUY with the VAX and HOOVER Z and on and on. The dyson competitors will be successful in all major USA retailers. Dyson will be compelled to reduce prices to survive and/or will dry up in existing vacuum markets and move to less competitive more virgin ones and repeat the same process. The writing is on the wall. You just have to face the music. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/04/06 at 3:40pm HARDSELL wrote:
Yes, son, because that's all that matters to me when I have facts and evidence for support. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by vacdocph on 03/04/06 at 4:26pm First time monday took a Dyson vacuum apart the motor was gone and what a cheap crap for a motor I don't understand all the time you people spend protecting and talking about this vacuum. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 03/04/06 at 4:52pm vacdocph wrote:
As you know from way back Peter, I prefer canisters like the Miele. I'm curious to know what model and how old the Dyson was that you disassembled. What type of failure was it? Thanks. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 03/04/06 at 5:39pm vacdocph wrote:
Is that the only vacuum that you repaired last week. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 03/04/06 at 5:48pm It probally took all week to get it apart. ;D old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/04/06 at 7:05pm vacdocph wrote:
Dyson made a huge business miscalculation by using a $50 Panasonic sourced motor for his "perceived" premium USA bagless DC07 and DC14. The motor of a vacuum is the heart of its performance. Going cheap and sourcing out especially with a competitor is like giving the keys to your house to a thief. You know what the result will be. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 03/04/06 at 7:23pm Hi Carmine, all in all the panasonic motor is very good.So are you trying to say that if dyson used their brushrollor and belt set up. It would clean as good as a panasonic that costs 69.95. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 03/04/06 at 7:53pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Lies, speculation and BS as usual. old-timer wrote:
Seems we have a misunderstanding or more like a direct lie coming from our flannel mouth. As I already knew, the Panasonic motors are indeed very well made and dependable. Thanks for setting the record straight old-timer ;) |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/04/06 at 8:20pm old-timer wrote:
Hello Old-Timer: The one fan Panasonic motor has been a staple of the vacuum industry since the early 70's when it was used in the bottom of the line Panasonic upright models. Of course the better and higher priced Panasonic uprights used 2 fans, the industry standard in the 70's. Panasonic currently uses an almost identical one fan motor (as years ago) in its bottom of the line uprights that retail for as little as $59.95 at BEST BUY. THis is the same motor that is sourced to dyson for the DC07 and DC14 models, although I suspect that the quality of dyson motors are not as good as the ones used by Panasonic models. When you are dependent on a competitor for the motors, you get what they give you. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by vacuuman on 03/04/06 at 10:39pm At work, we have replaced many of these Panasonic motors in Dysons. We also see a lot of Dysons with stretched and worn belts, which means new clutch assemblies too. You know a vacuum was brilliantly engineered when you have to replace the entire clutch just because the supposedly permanent flat stretch belts have reached the end of their life. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by justasking2 on 03/04/06 at 11:57pm So Vacuuman how long have you been an authorized Dyson dealer? I am also curious what prompted that decision. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by vacuuman on 03/05/06 at 2:35am Its the vacuum store I work for. They have been a Dyson dealer for a few years now. They decided to be the service center because it gets people in looking, and because we get paid $30 for each warranty service. In Jan. we sericed about 30 Dysons. Its a easy way to get money, and we can be sure that we will be getting enough Dysons in for repair. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 03/05/06 at 2:40am vacuuman wrote:
Goes to show you how many Dysons are out there when compared to other brands on the market. More than you'd ever believe Carmine. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/05/06 at 3:36am Bruce wrote:
Bruce: Thanks very much for directing your post to me. It gives me an excellent opportunity to re-post and summarize several points I've been saying about dysons all along. The huge number of new dysons under warranty for repair at "vacuuman's" store indicate that there are very few vacuum stores that actually do warranty repairs on dysons. Hence dyson pays $30 per unit. Most dysons under warranty have to go back to dyson and require customers to be without a vacuum for 2 or more weeks. We've seen this experience reported before on the Forum. Dyson is backlogged for warranty repairs so the repair time is even longer. To keep customers satisfied, the retailer/dyson provides another dyson vacuum, usually new, to the owner under warranty. That's not a huge problem in the beginning for dyson because the mark up is so high. The warranty dysons become repacks and refurbs sold on the internet and/or retailers' stores. THis is the same for the UK dyson experience. The practice of using dysons now by vacuum stores to get walk in traffic is common nationwide For example, a drawing of a DC14 is advertized for $399.99 in the newspaper. When customers call or walk in asking about the DC14, the store owners' pitch/sell their preferred and/or recommended vacuum brands. We know from the UK dyson experience (Which?) that dyson vacuums are more prone to repairs than all other premium priced vacuum brands. And the repairs tend to be costly. Because the dysons are a $400-$600, buyers will spend the high dollars on repairs after the 2 year warranty. Vacuum cleaner store owners will do the repairs and charge high amounts. It's the reason they are in business. Eventually the dyson owners will get disenchanted and scrap their dyson vacuums due to excessive cost and repairs. Who will get the business? The vacuum cleaner store owners who did the repairs usually through trade ins. Dyson did more by accident to reinvigorate the vacuum cleaner industry in the USA than all the vacuum makers did on purpose in the last 50 years. (Remember Fantom). THis will be dyson's legacy in the USA. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by JimB on 03/05/06 at 8:45pm If you get some time can you copy this exact post to a few more threads? I once heard if you tell a story enough times people will actually start believing it is true. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by RAT on 03/05/06 at 10:04pm There's a great deal of truth to what Carmine has said. For example, high quality super quiet German made Bosch canister vacuums are showing up at Box stores like Linens N Things and Costco. They are also available online at Target.com and Amazon.com among others. Apparently some Bed Bath and Beyond stores are carrying low end Miele canisters. Sebo has expanded its internet sales to include almost all models. Many are buying more expensive vacuums. Oreck has been doing extremely well with his expensive vacuums. Many Americans like the idea of getting a really high quality quiet vacuum, and are willing to pay more for it. Once someone tries a Miele or Bosh premium canister, it's hard for them to go back to a Hoover - even if the Hoover cleans carpeting as well or better for far less money. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 03/05/06 at 10:57pm RAT wrote:
I believe you are taking what Jim posted out of context. The subject at hand is anti Dyson propaganda and bashing that Carmine continues spewing at every opportunity he finds. It doesn't take long to determine that the majority of what he's spreading is inaccurate and wishful thinking on his part. The continuous lies he's been spreading are now being made known for all to read. RAT wrote:
This information can easily be verified with a few simple phone calls or a few clicks of the mouse. It doesn't take Carmine to spread the word for Heavens sake. By the way, I don't see any high end Bosch vacuums being sold at LNT, Target.com or Best Buy. But interestingly enough there are all the models of the Dysons available at these same big box stores including the suposedly "disappearing" DC-15. LOL RAT wrote:
I completely agree with you on this one except that a Hoover will never outperform a premium Miele. Never! |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by RAT on 03/05/06 at 11:39pm Bruce wrote:
Unfortunately, CR has never tested any Miele's with the premium powerhead, so I've never seen any data to support your claim. However, I wouldn't be surprised if you were correct. The Miele canisters with deluxe brush roll appear to be top notch performers. The canisters with the wimpy little brush rolls are a different story. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 03/06/06 at 12:21am RAT wrote:
I use both the smaller (SEB-217) and larger (SEB-236) direct connect power nozzles. The smaller works great on area and throw rugs as well as on bare floors. Suction need to be adjusted all the way down for the smaller throw rugs with rubber backing. The larger SEB-236 with it's larger opening will not work correctly and sucks the carpet into the brushbar even with the suction at the lowest setting. Additionally, one can use either powered nozzle directly on the hose end without the wand for handling awkward applications such as stairways. Both nozzles come in handy and have their purpose. My only beef with Miele is they need to provide a slightly longer hose. One or two feet would be perfect. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Mike_W. on 03/08/06 at 3:08am Bruce wrote:
Maybe they will have a longer hose in the future. Afterall, they finally put a headlight on the power nozzle. I like the long hose on the Riccar/Simplicity canisters, because the user does not have to constantly move the vacuum cleaner around. SEBO hoses are a good size also. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/11/06 at 10:32am The iRobot products gets the premier feature positions at BEST BUY this week. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/19/06 at 12:20pm Look's like HOOVER ZEE's coming out week. BEST BUY has both featured and TARGET has the Z400. Just in time for spring cleaning. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by VacOMatic on 03/19/06 at 12:34pm Although off-topic, just wanted to mention My experiences with the Miele BlueMoon and its two powerheads mirrors Bruce's experiences. CU unfortunately has not tested the large Miele powerhead (which is mechanically similar to but quieter than the Bosch Premium powerhead.). The Bosch can they tested, and rated VG on rugs, uses the small powerhead that's similar to the Miele's 217 series. The only Euro vac our Calif. BestBuys seems to carry is the Dyson. No Bosch yet. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/19/06 at 12:39pm All the dysons imported to the USA since 2002 are made in Malaysia. The population of Malaysia is 60-75 percent south east Asia at last count. The HOOVER ZEE is assembled in the USA and UL approved. I suspect the next seal will be Good Housekeeping. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 03/19/06 at 5:35pm The HOOVER ZEE is assembled in the USA and UL approved. I suspect the next seal will be Good Housekeeping. Carmine D. with parts made in china |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 03/19/06 at 6:19pm old-timer wrote:
Did anyone happen to look at the motor in the Z? It looks about the same size as the one used in an Oreck. It has a sound shield around it to reduce the db's. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by HARDSELL on 03/19/06 at 6:26pm Bruce wrote:
Hoover may be a good fit with Kitchen Aid. Left over blender motors could be used in the Z. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by old-timer on 03/19/06 at 6:27pm Maybe we should ask an Hoover expert, does anyone on the forum know one.......... old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by Bruce on 03/19/06 at 6:33pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I guess Carmine's reference to USA assembled denotes a perceived benefit to using USA labor in our country. The problem with US labor is that we demand higher pay/benefits. Something has to give in order to compete with outsourced products. Quality usually takes a major hit. There is no easy solution to this problem. As far as UL, Good Housekeeping and other's, they are all bought and paid for endoresments that mean very little today. Just about every product including inferior products on todays market now have these "seals" of approval. They no longer mean what they used to in years gone by. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by vacuuman on 03/19/06 at 11:13pm I am very willing tp pay more for American made things. But sadly most people just look at price. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/26/06 at 10:19am Thanks to TARGET, the Sunday PARADE gives the premier sales spot to HOOVER and the Z 400. Caption reads HOOVER SPRING CLEAN with the Z featured AND the HOOVER WT Self-Propelled, 2 SteamVacs including the Dual V, Windtunnel Plus bagged, and the new HOOVER Floormate with revolving brush. THe Z ad newsprint has the following: **Patent pending Z fold design **DigiTouch Control pad **Low-profile design **31 foot Power cord (Z400) **Performance of an upright with the flexibilty and STABILITY of a canister **Patent pending self-cleaning HEPA filter cleans itself every 6 seconds, never needs replacing **Quick release wand with SUper stretch Hose combines for 20 FEET of cleaning reach. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by johncainltd on 03/28/06 at 11:15am Carmine, I like your style! btw, have you ever taken one of the first-released yellow DC-7 machines apart? Talk about very interesting!!! If you pull away the gray plastic housing that holds the washable foam filter on the side of the motor, you feel around on the gray until you find something stamped into the plastic. Oh I don't know, like maybe letters, or a word............ It says: Panasonic I'm really starting to wonder just how many strange bedfellows Mr. Dyson has in his past. Let's not forget the selling of his prototype designs to the Iona appliance in Canada (later branched off into FANTOM Technologies). I appreciate what he went through as an inventor, but for Pete's sake! He knew his protoypes were faulty designs and he didn't care. Fantom lost their hide from warranty repeairs and lack of replacement parts and this is why the original Fantom company is bankrupt today! |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by DC15 on 03/28/06 at 11:38am Panasonic is also stamped on a few other vacs. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by MrRogers on 03/28/06 at 4:39pm johncainltd wrote:
Fantom vacs failed because of Iona's decision to utilize weak motors that didn't generate efficient inner cyclones, and the fact that they did not implement pre-motor filters which let in dust through the motor. They figured that they could sell more HEPA filters that way. However, through that, many machines died prematurely, thus, Fantom technologies was flooded with warranty claims that eventually bankrupted the company. Dyson merely licensed his cyclonic filtration system; he did not design the entire Fantom line up. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 03/28/06 at 5:45pm Excuse me. Is this the same Iona that used to make blenders way back in the 50's. Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by johncainltd on 03/28/06 at 7:51pm guess_who wrote:
Yes it is the same Iona. My mother had one. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by johncainltd on 03/28/06 at 8:07pm MrRogers wrote:
Regardless of Fantom did or did not do, they knew they were investing a faulty design and Mr. Dyson willingly sold them them the design rights for the EDSEL of bagless vacs! Dyson has no conscience, neither did the folks at Fantom. He knew he was selling them junk-they knew they were buying it. Lest we forget: when the Fantom was first sold, it did not even have a HEPA filter. That came 2 years later. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 03/28/06 at 8:20pm johncainltd wrote:
If what you say is true, then Hoover has copied Dyson in every way. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/28/06 at 8:55pm The difference that dysoners can't understand is that the FUSION by HOOVER is $128 vice the dyson which is $400 plus (like the Fantom). There's also the Dirt Devil Reaction for $169 and the VAX for $250. All the above makes are using cyclonic technology but for much less. BTW, the BEST BUY exclusive dyson the DC14 Full Access has a $70 instant cash off the price of $530 making it $460 (offer good thru 4/1) before the FREE DYSON CAR CARE KIT worth $84.99 with the purchase of any dyson. Such a deal! Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by johncainltd on 03/29/06 at 2:45pm HARDSELL wrote:
OOPS! What did I just step in???? ;D |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 03/29/06 at 9:12pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
How much did you say the Z is? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/29/06 at 9:32pm Does the Z use cyclonic technology Mr. dysoner? Think before you answer. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/02/06 at 11:52am Panasonic has the lead one page premier advertising space this week in the Sunday Parade with SEARS ad for HOOVER following. BTW the Panasonic on Demand Power technology is the Parades's feature vacuum. This vacuum appears to qualfy for the thread on vacuums with new advanced technology. The vacuum regulates power (and efficiency) automatically based on the level of dirt detected. Nice feature and it works well. The maker says it saves time, work and energy. I believe BEST BUY and other retailers sell this model for $279. Dyson Animal DC07 and DC14 are the high priced vacuums advertised in Target and BEST BUY for $499 and $549 respectively not including the FREE DYSON CARE CAR KIT which retails for $84.99 that comes free with the purchase. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by ArtieV on 04/12/06 at 10:16am vacuuman wrote:
Is it *really* necessary to replace the clutch if a belt has stretched, is the clutch so delicate and prone to wear, or is the recommended clutch replacement a little bonus or incentive for a shop owner to take on dyson repairs, since the clutch must be removed to change at least one of the belts? Which belt is most prone to stretch and "reach the end of its life?" -=Art=- |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by tiger21 on 04/12/06 at 6:52pm ArtieV, One or both will strech. The clutch is of poor design when it has to be replaced because of stretched belts. In the 70's Electrolux had a clutch system on their uprights and never had a broken belt or replaced a clutch brought into me. The belts were cogged and never stretched. Cost for Dyson clutch is high and labor makes it costly. Dualcyclone claims no belt repacements,filters for the life of Dyson. If you have a problem Hardsell says it is customer abuse. Sorry Dyson doesn't have the power and isn't repair free for life like Dysoners are leading people to believe. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/23/06 at 5:14am After an EASTER reprieve, BEST BUY and the other retailers are back to business with Spring vacuum sales. Dirt Devil Reaction D2 gets the nod from several retailers including BEST BUY. Note the claims say: "Superior suction that lasts;" and "suction that doesn't stop until you shut it off." KOHL's premiers the dyson line and the free car care kit giveaway. Sorry no real sales here just MSRP and no suction claims by KOHL's at all for the mighty dyson. Just another line of vacuums. In a surprise retail move, KMART now carries 2 Kenmore uprights: a bagged and bagless model for $99. Good move and ideal venue and price. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/23/06 at 12:44pm The Sunday Parade features an array of Panasonic appliances including the Power on Demand Bagless which along with the EUREKA BOSS Smart Vac (which BTW is on sale at BEST BUY this week for $149) are two of the best selling vacuums at BEST BUY. The Panasonic products advertised are sponsored by Target stores at target.com. The Parade also features the HOOVER bagged Self-Propelled WindTunnel for $259, Steam Vac for the same price and $179, Floormate for $169 and Tempo WidePath that so many of the Forum would be experts brag on for its similarilty to the WT for only $59.95 HOOVER products advertised are compliments of SEARS shop now.shop sears.com. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by VacOMatic on 04/23/06 at 1:33pm I forget which but either Kmart bought Sears, or Sears bought Kmart, so it's not too surprising to see Kenmore products migrate to Kmart. Good idea in any case as the Kenmore vacs are, so far, generally good quality and a nice alternative to the cheapies Kmart usually sells. Should also add the Miele and Bissell have had cannister vacs that attempted to automatically detect a given vacuuming situation and increase or decrease suction automatically. The Bissell languishes near the bottom of CU's ratings (my playtime with it at Frys suggested it was indeed pretty miserable). Am not sure if Miele is still making theirs. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/24/06 at 7:37am Have you seen and tried the Panasonic Power on Demand? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY NEWS PAPER SUPPLEMENT Post by justasking2 on 04/25/06 at 10:58pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Uh, maybe not.... |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/26/06 at 4:43am Old News. You're behind the times. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/30/06 at 3:26am BEST BUY premiers the new HOOVER Elite this week in its newspaper ads. Just in time for Spring and Mother's Day. Also on sale the dyson DC07 for $399 and take another $30 off. This has been an in store sale but finally gets advertised. Unfortunately no more dyson car care kit. Ended yesterday. Maybe it will be extended? In the BEST BUY ad for dyson, the verbage: "Never loses suction" is conspicuously absent. Noted the same for other dyson ads (DC14) by other retailers. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/07/06 at 3:54am HOOVER gets the premier ad space in the Sunday Parade compliments of Home Depot. The HOOVER Floor Matic w/o the attachments is advertised for $169. This model has 6 spin scrub brushes and a 13 inch floor nozzle rather then the 7 spin scrub brushes and 15 inch nozzle on the H-3060-020 (top of the line). BEST BUY also has a HOOVER Floor Matic for sale but the model with the revolving brush for $139. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by DC15 on 05/07/06 at 11:30am Best Buy: Dyson DC14 Animal. Free $100.00 Gift Card with purchase. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/07/06 at 11:38am I believe Linen n Things and Target stores are offering the $100 Gift Cards too on the purchase of any dyson during the month of May. This must be what Jim B referred to as creative marketing several months ago when he talked about future dyson pricing. This makes back to back monthly sales specials by dyson: April with the Free Car Kit ($84.99) and May with the $100 Gift Card (retailers' incentives). Do the vacuum independents and internet sellers who carry dyson vacuums suffer by these special big box retail deals? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 05/07/06 at 2:22pm Do the vacuum independents and internet sellers who carry dyson vacuums suffer by these special big box retail deals? Carmine D.[/quote] My opinion on this is that the dealers can turn this into a positive situation for them, its just a question of who wants to make the money, if a prospect is shopping around for the best price on a dyson,if the local independent can match or do a little better why wouldnt the customer buy from the professional vacuum stores. The big box stores do all the advertising and the local dealers make the money. sounds like a good deal to me......... old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 05/08/06 at 2:26pm Hi Old-Timer, How does online buying factor into the mix? If I were to buy a Dyson, Miele, etc., at suggested prices, I definitely would not make the purchase from a local vendor due to sales tax here (8.375%). I just checked online and, if I wanted, I can the DC-15 "Ball" for $499 or the DC-15 "Animal" for $534. Both would be delivered to my door at no charge AND -- no sales tax. As long as ground shipping costs are low, I'd buy at best price from an out-of-state vendor. It saves a heck of a lot of money. Local vendors in my area are not much inclined to bargain as overhead is generally high by way of rent alone. Regards, Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 05/08/06 at 3:07pm Hi Venson, I knew sooner or later this would come up, We have both on line and retail locations, when a customer buys from us online, the carrier usually ups or fed ex, takes the merchandise from us to the customer, the customer is responsible for any taxes, were based in a state that has no sales tax. Its a huge advantage for us.Plus we dont gouge people on shipping. old-timer |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Bruce on 05/08/06 at 6:29pm I agree with Venson regarding sales taxes. A number of years ago I purchased my Miele Silver Moon on-line, received free shipping and saved the 8.6% local and retail sales taxes. That's a savings of over $103 I would have had to pay if I purchased it at a local dealer. I don't feel one bit guilty because I don't particularly like my local Miele dealer. And all the other local dealers tend to bad mouth each others products. When I asked them about Miele they look down their nose and have nothing good to say about it (because they obviously can't carry the line). The majority of independent dealers in my area are like hillbillies and only carry a couple of different brands. Their show rooms are dirty, smelly and dimly lit. When they are asked if these are the only brands they carry they reply with "but we can order what you want". Problem is, I and probably any other savvy buyer doesn't want to plunk down money on a product that can't be seen, touched or used before making the purchase. Why bother with them when I can easily order on-line with a few clicks of the mouse and have it delivered to my front door. Return policy?? No such thing with the locals. I'm not saying all the locals are like this but a very high percentage of them in my area are hillbillies. No thank you. There's really nothing my State can do about the tax situation either unless the dealer happens to have a retail outlet within the State. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by tiger21 on 05/08/06 at 8:16pm Venson, I take it that you are a tax dodger. WHen I buy I pay my taxes. It is what makes the State and Federal governments run. When I sell in states other than my own I collect for that state and see that the state gets it's due. The state of Tenessessee has a sales tax but no income tax.The state runs on the sales tax. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 05/08/06 at 10:01pm tiger21 wrote:
The politicians want the income tax. The people voted it down. If the governments did not abuse the spending of tax $ I think most people would be willing to pay taxes. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 05/08/06 at 11:04pm Hey tiger21, Please share whatever your on with the rest of us -- we could use a lift too. First of all, we're talking sales tax which has nothing to do with personal income taxes by way of state or federal government. Where is your mind? It is perfectly legal to order and purchase goods online from establishments outside of New York State. As long as the company I am buying from does not have actual branches/stores here in New York I am not obliged by law to pay sales tax. For instance, if I order online from nationwide chains like Best-Buy and Sears I must pay sales tax as they have stores in my state. On the other hand, if I buy from Griggs Vacuum or Ristenbatt who have no stores here, I pay no tax. How is that tax dodging? I call it practical shopping. There was someone I worked for a long time ago who informed me that the first rule of business was never to pay more than you just have to. She followed this rule to the letter when it got down to my paycheck. Despite my preturbation at her tight-fistedness I took it to heart as a consumer. I never pay more than I have to and no other consumer should either. Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/09/06 at 10:59am I had a sign hanging in my store for many years. It read: "We collect local, state, and federal taxes ..... and do a little business on the side." If you don't pay the sales taxes, you can't deduct them on your income tax filings. If you do pay the sales taxes, you can deduct them on your income taxes. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by RAT on 05/09/06 at 11:01am Most states have a "use" tax which covers goods purchased out of state. You are expected to voluntarily file and remit the taxes to your state and/or local tax authority. For example, in New York, here's an article about the tax. http://www.nysscpa.org/cpajournal/2004/704/essentials/p38.htm Naturally taxpayer compliance is very lax with use tax: "Compliance percentages (taxpayers who reported and paid a use tax) for 2001 were 1.6% in Michigan and 0.58% in Utah." |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 05/09/06 at 11:52am Hi guys, One of my duties at work is to file and pay collected sales tax per New York and New Jersey, as the firm has vendors who we contract to do work for us in both places. For work executed in either place, respectively, tax is applied to individual invoices as required. We are not obligated to charge or pay tax to the state of California, as an instance, when we execute work to be shipped and used there. We have no mandate from the State so far that says we must. Our supplied sales tax forms only require us to list counties within the New York State that we may have delivered work to. The additional form we receive re New Jersey only asks if we executed taxable work (that would be for any client without a resale ID or non-profit status). BAsically, sales tax collection is the vendors' responsibility here. RAT -- per the link you posted if you read down a ways . . . "There are many types of purchases where a New York taxpayer may acquire goods or services and not pay the requisite sales tax: . . . " "Purchases made via catalogs or the Internet where the vendor does not charge New York sales tax or does not charge the full rate applicable to the tax payer's place of residence." I have had no online vendor other than those physically located in New York State require sales of me for any personal purchases. As I said, no mandate that I know of insists that out-of-state online purchasers bear obligation to pay tax to the state of origin. Matter of fact, the powers that be here offer a period a couple of times a year when clothing purchases for items under $110.00 each are not subject to sales tax. This is an experiment I assume as our neighbor, New Jersey, does not tax clothing sales at all. In New York, you pay no tax for edible items and prescription pharmaceuticals but are taxed for just about everything else. Overall, if sales tax does actually become required as collectable by vendors nationwide, regardless of prior rules, it will put a damper on online buying due to all the paperwork required. Our economy considered, I have a strong feeling that this issue will court a lot of barking dogs from all around but will not be strongly pursued since, after all, consumers are voters too. Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by RAT on 05/09/06 at 12:17pm You are correct in saying that you don't have to pay sales tax for products purchased over the internet or from catalog stores with no presence in the state. However, in most of those cases, you are theoretically supposed to voluntarily remit the alternatitive "use" tax to your government authority. As I noted, compliance with this is fairly poor. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 05/09/06 at 12:27pm Hi RAT, I've never heard of any private consumer paying use tax. Until state government stands forth with a loud voice and says to the everyday consumer, "This is sin," I think I and the rest of the general public probably will not think on anything other than that which is already a definite must. However, again thanks much for the link. I plan to get back to it for a more thorough read. Regards, Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by cprohman on 05/09/06 at 9:57pm I always pay use tax on out-of-state purchases for all my businesses. The state is very serious about collecting use tax, and routinely audits businesses if they do not report use tax. As for consumers, I don't know of any consumers who ever pay it. Obviously they pay it on things like boats or cars that have to be registered. It was also correctly stated above that if you have sufficient contacts with a given state, you have to collect tax for that state. Thus if you, or any employee, ever enters a state for business purposes (salesman, repairman), you must collect tax for that state. Thus, when IBM sold personal computers, they had to collect tax for all states since they had employees in all states, which put them at a disadvantage compared to other computer vendors that didn't have to collect tax. Lenovo, who bought the IBM division, probably doesn't have to collect the tax, and thus gained an advantage over the old IBM. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/10/06 at 6:51am Eventually (after the Republicans) the government leaders and the IRS will figure out with the high dual deficits (budget and trade) and short falls in tax revenues that they need to do something. Some one will mention the high dollar volume of sales on the net (companies are required to report both taxable and non-taxable sales) and enforce the collection and payment of the "use" tax for internet buying. It's bound to happen. The government moves by its own momentum, slow but calculating. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by cprohman on 05/10/06 at 9:36am The flip side of this is the reason why companies selling out-of-state sales haven't been required to collect taxes. Each state has its own forms, and its own rates. Say that Old-timer runs a vac shop, and I call him and order bags from him. If collecting taxes of sales out of state is required, and he ships them to me, suddenly he now has to file with my state to get a taxpayer ID and sales tax permit, then he needs to learn my state's rate and how to fill out my state's forms, and then he has to file them all regularly, not just after selling me the bags, but forever. In that kind of a system, I have no doubt he'd just refuse to sell me the bags. Now, as you get bigger, when you have a monster company like, say, Amazon.com, or Dell Computer, they can have the staff to fill out forms for all 50 states. Where do you draw the line? How do you handle this administratively? How does the South Dakota revenue department audit a shop in Alabama that they think is underreporting sales tax? The administrative nightmare is why this hasn't been resolved yet. Now, you might think that one solution might be that the selling company would just have to charge their own sales tax. That would work, sort of. Then if someone in New Jersey bought from a store in Alabama, they'd get charged Alabama tax. That would level the field a bit since there would be tax on out-of-state purchases, even if it wasn't the exact same rate. Or would it? What about the states that don't have sales tax? There are several states with no state sales tax. If this was the rule, guess what? The big online vendors would all move to New Hampshire, and then they could sell for less because they'd have no sales tax. The system would still be unfair, just in a different way. In the end probably the only real answer to to make all sales tax payable to the Federal government who in turn would divide it up between the states. If you think that bigger and more powerful Federal government is the answer, you'll probably like this solution. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/10/06 at 1:45pm cprohman wrote:
The Federal government will use the power of the purse strings to twist the arms of the states to comply. The Federal government which doles out federal aid, i.e. discretionary Block Grant money which states can use as necessary at the state and local levels, ties the federal funds (and amounts) to the States' collecting of the sales and use taxes for internet sales. Win win situation. Everybody is happy. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 05/10/06 at 2:25pm Hi guys, May I throw this out for thought? There is still such a thing as killling the goose that laid the golden egg. Purely from a consumer's stance, were we obliged to pay sales tax per state of origin when buying online, would that possibly swing sales moreso in the direction of states with the lowest sales tax? As an example -- unless it was a thing that couldn't be got elsewhere -- I can't imagine anyone ordering online from a New York vendor unless the base price on an item is quite low due to the more than eight-percent on the dollar in tax that would have to be paid. When I research and shop online it is not only an exercise of convenience but near to a survival tactic. It's the best way I know to get specifically what I want at the best price. Otherwise, I'd just walk down the street and get it. I like high-end stuff and quality as much as anyone else but like many people that I met while in Europe, I find myself having to learn to be my own economist more everyday. Online shopping is here to stay and shoppers will be becoming more and more savvy as to where to go to get what at a good price. I maintain the feeling that if government doesn't tread lightly in regard to this issue or provide significant relief in other ways it might well have an effect on online business by way of volume. Something is better than nothing and asking too much can often end you up with just that -- nothing. Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/13/06 at 7:18pm For the second consecutive week and this being the Mother's Day Weekend, HOOVER gets the premier Sunday PARADE advertisement space compliments once again to HOME DEPOT. (Mom: I'm Home! ;D) And BEST BUY has two products mentioned in several posts and threads this week on this FORUM: The BISSELL Spot Bot and the HOOVER Floormate. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/22/06 at 6:40am Slim pickins this past weekend on the vacuum sales front with most retailers positioning for the Memorial Day Holiday sales. No vacuums this past Sunday in the Parade section. Sears had a nice ad for vacuums premiering and featuring the HOOVER WT Self-Propelled as it's top price choice. BEST BUY has the DC14 Animal on sale for $549 BEFORE $50 instant cash off. And to round out the selection, the Dirt Devil Swivel Glide for $50. What do you think BEST BUY will sell more of? If you have any doubt, look at the number of each stocked on the shelves. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by cprohman on 05/22/06 at 10:46am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I haven't seen any sales figures in a year. Anyone have any recent sales data in terms of dollar market share? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/22/06 at 11:14am You'll recall my posting that according to NPD, an industry source used by another Forum poster not me, claimed in print that Dirt Devil had the highest vacuum sales in units for the period January 2005 -June 2005. FWIW. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by M00seUK on 05/22/06 at 11:23am cprohman wrote:
How about in terms of margin? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by cprohman on 05/22/06 at 12:34pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Moose, you hit the nail on the head. When I was first in business I cared about unit volume, but it didn't take me too long to figure out that I can't feed my family on units. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/22/06 at 12:53pm At least for the two quarters of calendar year 2005, the title for most new vacuum units sold is held by Dirt Devil (according to NPD). Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/23/06 at 1:43pm cprohman wrote:
In the case of BEST BUY, the unit sales is a factor that affects business revenue. More persons will go to BEST BUY to buy the DD swivel glide than the dyson. So DD increases the BEST BUY store traffic. This in turn is good for BEST BUY business. Many of these DD customers will be buyers of other products, like flat screen TV's. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 05/23/06 at 2:06pm I have to disagree that a specific $59 DD vacuum would be much of a traffic driver. My experience would tell me a typical consumer would enter a store looking for a vac in this price range and end up with a DD as opposed to a consumer deciding to make a specific trip to Best Buy to get the $59 DD swivel glide. The customer who is making that specific trip to buy a predetirmend $59 DD is unlikely to be the type to impulse buy a flat screen TV. ;) |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/23/06 at 2:18pm I disagree based on personal and professional experience. I think most of the flat screen TV buyers are representative of certain buying genre who are proned to buy $59 vacuums. I have at least a dozen or more I call my friends. We are all avid sports fans. They would probably use the trip to BEST BUY for the vacuum as an excuse to scope out the latest and greatest in TV's and electronics. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 05/23/06 at 3:20pm So you would think that the $59 DD is a destination purchase? In other words you think most of these are sold in Best Buy by people making a specific trip to Best Buy having already chosen that specific vacuum to purchase? To then take it a step further that consumer that made that specific trip to purchase that specific $59 DD at a specific retailer would then impulse buy a flat screen? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/23/06 at 5:06pm You got the picture. Superbowl week for the big game. Yes Sir. Buy the big screen TV in a heart beat. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 05/23/06 at 10:15pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Yes, those sports fans went in to buy a vacuum and came out with a $4000 TV. They also returned the TV after the game along with the POS vacuum. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by vacuuman on 05/23/06 at 10:55pm I still don't get some people, they spend all this money on their high end appliances, expensive furniture, and even very nice carpet. But when they pick a vacuum, they buy the $56 DD. Everything is nice and expensive but the vacuum. I see this too much around here, I find it very annoying. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/24/06 at 6:46am HARDSELL wrote:
Not with "March Madness" just a few short weeks away fromt he Superbowl, especially if they are basketball fans. The likelihood of a vacuum getting returned after the Superbowl weekend is greater than a big screen TV. Vacuums are THE MOST returned of all appliances to big box retailers. Vacuums are also the most costly merchandise returns for TARGET retail stores in recent years and rank high on the list of operating costs for other big box retailers. I suspect they are not the $59 DD vacuums either, despite the fact that NPD reports Dirt Devil sold the most vacuums in units from January 2005-June 2005. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 05/24/06 at 9:53pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Trying to change to your benefit again. I was responding to your comment about the Superbowl. Big screens have a high return rate after major events. Women look for vacuums, men for TV's so I doubt that a sale on one increases sales of the others. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/25/06 at 6:59am I mentioned recently that Circuit City is seriously considering adding vacuum cleaners BACK in their stores and possibly central vacuums. The reason I was told: To increase store traffic AND beat the big box stores to the market with CVS which are gaining in use and popularity. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/27/06 at 7:57am HOOVER gets the PARADE feature for Memorial Day sales thanks to SEARS and HOOVER also gets most of the other weekend and holiday hardware and retail store ads too. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/03/06 at 7:38pm It's the weekend and time to look at the newspaper sales for vacuums. And once again, HOOVER is the big winner starting with the premier Parade space thanks once again to SEARS. But this week with a new twist: The HOOVER WindTunnel Bagged Self-Propelled comes with 3m Fitrete bags. Add to the line up, HOOVER's other popular selling products: The SteamVac and FloorMate. Murderers' Row of floorcare products for the home. Two of these HOOVER products get BEST BUY's nod for the week's vacuum advertisement too. Along with a new entrant: The Panasonic Bagless Xcelerator. And dyson fans still time to buy a leftover DC07 for the discounted price of $369.99. Already over 4 years old and still around (leftover from Wal*Mart). But wait, what's this. LOWES has added two new HOOVER uprights to its vacuum venue: The HOOVER Z for $398 and the HOOVER Elite for $99.97 (with a cordwinder and turbo tool) plus the old reliable WindTunnel for $158. A HOOVER vacuum for every floor. Sorry dyson fans, no dysons advertised. But a big "YES" to EUREKA, ELECTROLUX, and BISSELL. Another weekend surprise: The Consumer Reports award winning Kenmore Direct Drive "bagged" is advertised at KMart for $279.99 along with a line up of other Kenmore uprights and canisters. A KMart first. And don't forget to look for the usual venue of Kenmore vacuums in the SEARS ads too along with: HOOVER again sporting the two favorites: The Windtunnel self-propelled bagged and SteamVac: 2/3 of the Murderers' Row. Sorry dyson fans, no dysons. And finally before leaving LOWES with HOOVER starry eyes, take a look at the array of SHOP*VACS advertised on sale in the newspaper. Not one, not two, not three but FIVE different models and one is a 2 in 1. Prices range from $29.98 to $100. Obviously FATHER'S DAY is close by and what father doesn't want a SHOP*VAC! And what's this: CHOICES: Quiet motors, 20 foot cords, built in water pumps, heavy duty cleaning with portability, blower ports.... and more. Almost forgot TARGET which also features the HOOVER line this week. Sorry fans, no dysons advertised at TARGET this week. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 06/03/06 at 8:39pm Oh my gosh! How did I sleep through this one . . . Carmine, how long have Kenmore vacs been advertising by way of K-Mart? I have never seen a "Sears" vacuum sell this way before. Alas, alas, is Sears dying too? Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 06/03/06 at 10:48pm More evidence of Hoover hitting bottom. Being # 1 in sales like Dyson means that you can spend more on R & D and less on advertising. BTW, How does Hoover afford all those ads when they are broke? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/04/06 at 4:39am guess_who wrote:
Hello Venson: This subject has been discussed on the Forum but only in passing. KMart annouced its plans to buy and merge with SEARS in 2005 and the deal was consummated in 2006. The new company is called SEARS Holdings (and the stock of KMART which was already a high flyer doubled from $75 to $150 today). With the merge, KMART has been assimilating the SEARS product line including vacuums. Apparently the KMART move to high end product lines is working. And the reason in part Wal*Mart is following suit and adding high end merchandise to its venue (IMHO). Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/04/06 at 4:55am HARDSELL wrote:
Now who is confused? Those HOOVER ads are paid for by the retailers not HOOVER. (Unlike another brand you like so much which may pay for the retailers' ads and when it does dictates the terms). Obviously you have the two confused. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 06/04/06 at 10:59am Hi Carmine, Thanks. I do remember hearing about it but didn't think much of it at the time or about the after effect. I shop Sears all the time but never set foot in K-Mart. Regards, Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 06/04/06 at 1:21pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
So you do not believe that Hoover subsidises advertising. Greedy pigs. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/04/06 at 1:48pm Do you know that HOOVER does? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/11/06 at 5:26am If its the weekend then we have vacuum sales. Unfortunately no one gets the coveted Parade feature this week. Dyson is the big winner with sales at SEARS and BEST BUY. SEARS offering an instant $100 GIFT card ON ANY dyson purchase thru June 18. BEST BUY has the DC14 Animal for $549 BEFORE an instant $50 cash off on purchase. HOOVER gets two of its 3 best sellers at SEARS too: THe HOOVER Self-propelled WT and the STEAM VAC. Two of its Murderers' Row line up of floor care products. Even KOHLS joins the dyson bandwagon of sales with the DC07 for $399 and the DC14 Animal for $549.99. But wait what's this more off on dyson? Guaranteed 15, 20, and 30 percent off now through Tuesday June 13. Creative way to beat the 10 percent dyson MAP. Dyson DC14 All Floors even gets into the Home Depot sales. But shares the limelight with HOOVER and the Empower ($90) and the 3 member of Murderers' Row: THe Floor Mate for $169. TARGET is lite on the vacuums sales: Only BISSELL one if its top sellers. Could it be, ts gearing up for the launch of the new HOOVER Wind Tunnel? Lowes has its typical array of SHOP VACS on sale: 4 models from $69 to $169 with nice features: Ultra quiet operation, 20 foot cords, stainless steel design, transport handles. Claims 50 percent less noise than the competition. (PS: None of the retailers with dyson sales cites the famous (or infamous) claim NEVER LOSES SUCTION. Interesting? Who was the big winner in the advertising settlement agreement? Dyson versus HOOVER. ;) Happy Vacuuming. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/18/06 at 11:14am If it's the weekend it must be vacuum sales time: Not. HAPPY FATHER"S DAY to all the Daddies out there. Even sales take a holiday for their superiors: Dads. Slim pickins. No vacuum sales in the prestigious PARADE and a venue of old reliables at the usual retailers. The tried and true EUREKA BOSS SMART Vac at BEST BUY for $140. One of their top sellers. And the DD Dual 2 for $159: with the mantra: Cyclonic filtration for "sustained suction." Even the old dyson DC07 Animal (over 3 years old now) for $499 (same old same old) but no mention of the dyson suction claim. Interesting. Outdone by DD! Come on for the Ball now discounted at $400 and even less. And at Kohls: Same old same old; DC07 All Floors for $399. No mention of suction claim either. I think we have a trend here by retailers. SEARS has the usual Kenmore suspects plus the EUREKA Altima for $99. Nothing new here. Target is a no show for vacuums and KMart has the usual array of cheapo's with a DD Breeze for $44 and a one year product replacement for $5. People like this deal. Have to wait until next week to see the new good stuff! Bye bye. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Ex-DC15 on 06/22/06 at 8:26am Target now has their own Dyson sold exclusively for them and it's called the DC14 Drive. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/22/06 at 10:25am Yes, it has been mentioned. I opined, and will again for your benefit, that dyson had leftover Car Care Kits from the free promotion. This retails for $84.99 and was free with the purchase of a dyson. THe promotion ran the month of April at most retailers who sell dyson vacuums. Dyson took the leftover attachments added them to the DC14 and gave it a new name. Do you know the retail price of the Drive? I believe it's $459 which makes it a better buy, if you are DC14 inclined, than the All Floors for $430. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/23/06 at 3:29am BEST BUY will also carry and sell the new HOOVER WindTunnel 2. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by D.E.P. on 06/23/06 at 7:12am Hi Carmine, The Best Buy in Union, NJ already has them both on display – The “Windtunnel 2” is $299.99 and the “Windtunnel 2 Surface Command” is $339.99 – As of 2 days ago, the Purple VAX was down to $139.00 (new in the box – 1 left), the Dyson DC15 All Floors was down to $262.00 (no stock left), The White Hoover Z was $199.99 (no stock left), and the Blue Hoover Z was $249.99 (new in the box - 2 left)… The End caps are Dyson DC14 Animal, Bissell Spot Bott, Roomba, and Hoover Rewind… Dan |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/24/06 at 8:10pm The coveted PARADE advertising feature goes to SEARS and HOOVER with an array of vacuums and floor care products including the brand new HOOVER WindTunnel 2 Extra Reach for $299.99. THis is the official launch of the new HOOVER WT. Thank you SEARS. (Could SEARS Holdings be the lucky owner of HOOVER ;)? ) Have to wait and see. Not too much happening elsewhere. BEST BUY has the usual suspects including the now over 4 years old DC07 All Floors for $399. Wow, seems like a lot of dinero when you can get the newer and better DC14 for $429 at HOME DEPOT (also advertised) and/or the new DC14 Drive for $459 with the tools from the CAR CARE KIT (that retail for $84.99). But don't look for any vacuum sales at TARGET this week which is a no show. KMart has the usual array of cheapos but spices it up with the claim: Now all the Kenmore vacuum products are at kmart.com. Bye bye. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by SIRHC on 06/26/06 at 7:34pm OFF TOPIC: But it looks like Dyson isn't out of the washing machine market for good after all. Mr Dyson insists instead that a new type of washing machine now being worked on by a research and development team at Dysons headquarters in Malmesbury, Wiltshire will be better than the first one. Mr Dyson says: We will develop a new machine and then see how many people want to buy it. I am sure it can be a success. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by M00seUK on 06/27/06 at 5:03am Further Dyson washing machine opinion in the news today :- A 10-year struggle to clean up in appliance market http://www.ft.com/cms/s/5447861e-0533-11db-9b9e-0000779e2340.html |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/27/06 at 2:06pm Interestingly the FT article quotes unit sales for washers and market value of sales for vacuums. For washers the FT cites 18,000 of the dyson washers sold in 2002 (its best sales year) and 2500 in 2005 (its worse sales year) when the washer was pulled off the market. James Dyson disagrees with the numbers. But does he give his own? No. Also the value of market share of the dyson vacuums sold in the UK declined from 44 percent in 2004 to 37 percent in 2005, a steep drop. Reason: Fierce price competition in the vacuum industry in the UK. SOunds like the USA. James is silent on the sales drop for dyson vacuums from year to year in the UK. And last but not least, I still detect a lingering resentment on the part of the UK people for the decision to relocate the production plant from Malmesbury to Malaysia. This is a recurring criticism of dyson and James that just won't go away. And may be a factor in the declining sales especially repeat customer business. Which? and the 7 years that dyson topped the worse reliability in vacuums may also be a contributing factor. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by M00seUK on 06/27/06 at 6:28pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Well, it's good to have *some* figures to go on for once. 18,000 in the first year isn't too bad considering the higher than average price, but 2,500 in 2005 is poor. Although (non-pubic) businesses generally don't provide detailed breakdowns of poor selling lines, it's got to be said that Dyson are far from shy when presenting facts, figures, quotes and charts for their successes! Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Fierce competition? From where? All I see is clone after clone of 'bagless' vacuums with pleated filters. Cheap? yes, effective? No. There's nothing remotely shaking up the market at present. In fact, it seems that many people are going 'bagless', finding themselves forever losing suction and cleaning filters, then making the switch to a Dyson, for a 'proper' bagless. Natural market saturation in a mature market will decrease Dyson's year on year sales to a point. Doubtless, the strategy of introducing regular new models with many new features is to give people with a perfectly working Dyson, an added incentive to upgrade. Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Oh, it's still a factor, a huge thorn in their side for what seems like forever and a day. James Dyson points out in his 'Against the odds' book that Hoover UK never fully recovered their image from the 'Free Flights Fiasco'. Well, while Dyson have plenty of positive associations, the big negatives are the results of these reliability surveys and uprooting UK production. Even though the decision to move to Malaysia was made for sound economic reasons and had no reported impact on the local community (in fact other businesses in the Malmesbury area found it hard to recruit, difficult to complete with Dyson's pay and benefits). Everything Dyson have presented since suggests that if they hadn't moved, they almost certainly wouldn't be in business, much less US market leader. But many still see them as this traitor to UK industry, without being aware of the full facts. I mean how many are aware that the Hoover brand here is actually from an Italian company? How many outside the immediate area know that 'Hoover' closed their production factory in Scotland not so long ago? In fact, at the time of the closure it was blamed by some on Dyson for being too successful! Oh well, that's PR, live by the sword... |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/27/06 at 7:26pm Add one more negative to Malaysia by James. Senator Russ Feingold, head of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, democratic presidential hopeful for 2008, and one half of the McCain Feingold Bill, said on national TV on Sunday June 25, 2006 that Malaysia and Indonesia have been added to the "watch list" of countries with increased anti-US terrorists, Al Qaeda activities and insurgents. The other countries are Afganistan, Iran and North Korea. The increase has been a result of the Iraqi war and huge presence of US troops in that area. This forced the new wave of terrorists to flee to safe havens of Malaysia and Indonesia for training and meeting. As US troops are pulled out of Iraq as Feingold and General Casey have recommended, the US troops will be deployed to Malaysia and Indonesia to thwart the rise of anti-American terrorist activities in those countries (per Feingold). Where are dyson vacuums made? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 06/28/06 at 9:58am Islamic insurgents in Malyasia are hardly a new development. Not quite sure what they have to do with the quality of a vacuum. Seems kind of like linking the Chinese governments human rights abuses to the Hoovers made there, or the recent terror arrests in Florida to Disney. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/28/06 at 10:11am China is not on the US "watch list" for terrorist activities. Malaysia is. James had no way to know it would be except that Indonesia and Malaysia were known safe havens for terrorists in 2002 when he located his plant in Malaysia. China is slave labor without the guilt. If I had a choice of the two countries for plant location (China and/or Malaysia), as a strictly business decision with political implications, I'd go with China based on the facts and circumstances of the two governments. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by justasking2 on 06/28/06 at 9:04pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
HUh? Malaysia is not on the terror watch list,whatever that is, perhaps you are talking about the list of countrys who sponsor terror. Either way they are not on it and Feingold did not say they were. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13484195/ As for Malaysia in 2002 they were being praised for their support of the global anti terror effort and their pursuit of the terrorist groups that tend populate the islands between malaysia and indonesia not criticized as a safe haven. Kind of funny though if you check out the facts Feingold did say General Casey supports his pull out proposal but has been taking a beating as he "pulled a Carmine" and only used half of a Casey quote to misrepresent his position. Now can you go back to misrepresenting vacuums instead of Countries and Generals who are supporting the war against terror. PS. Nice visiting you all and seeing that Hoover is still dominant and Dyson should be closing its doors any day now. Perhaps I will check back again in a few months to see how that is still going..... ;) |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/29/06 at 3:50am "HUh? Malaysia is not on the terror watch list,whatever that is,............... Kind of funny though if you check out the facts Feingold did say General Casey supports his pull out proposal but has been taking a beating as he "pulled a Carmine" and only used half of a Casey quote to misrepresent his position. " ******************************************** Whose misrepresenting? Read the transcript. And THINK. Here's the quote from Sen Feingold from the Meet the Press interview WRT terrorist activities increasing in Malaysia, Indonesia and Somalia: "That is the way to have confidence in the process in Iraq and get us refocused on the broader fight against terrorism in those places in the world, Tim, where we’re losing ground. We’re losing ground in Afghanistan. We don’t have enough resources in Indonesia and Malaysia area in this regard. We have lost ground in Somalia. And the fact is that Iraq is draining our strength. I think General Casey knows that. And this plan is very similar to the type of thing that Senator Kerry and I actually proposed in the United States Senate this week." Since the Senator made mention of Malaysia by name, it means Malaysia is on the Senate Foreign Relations Commitee's "terrorist watch list." Sen. Feingold chairs the Committee. 45 countries including Iraq are on the terrorist "watch list." WRT General Casey and the democratic troop withdrawal plans, news accounts since the interview assert with certainty that the republicans, Bush and the Pentagon have a troop withdrawal timetable. The republicans are keeping it close to the vest until it is politically advantageous to disclose (mid term elections?). The withdrawn troops will be redeployed to the countries where the US is "losing ground" to the terrorists. This is the crux of the quote that I cited by the Senator. Thanks for posting the link to the Feingold interview. The full Feingold-Russert interview is worth a read despite the off subject topic. It demonstrates the grave concerns our government leaders have with the rise of worldwide terrorism, Al Qaeda, and anti-American insurgencency and the countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, Somalia (run by a known Al-Qaeda) and Afganistan that are on the "watch list." Where are the dyson vacuums made, again? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 06/29/06 at 12:01pm Carmine, To answer your question Dyson Vacuums are made in Malaysia, I thought you knew that ;). I am confused by the point you are trying to make, though. Yes there is Terrorism in that part of the world but the Malaysian government has been praised by many for thier support in the war against terrorists. Are you proposing we send troops to help them in this but we shouldn't support their economy through trade? The kind of funny thing about your argument bringing this full circle is the Malaysian government not only has experience fighting these Islamic style terrorists but they have long fought similar your apparantly preffered Chinese Communist based groups. Either way can we get back to Vacuums and off politics? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by dualcyclone on 06/29/06 at 1:19pm In the current printing of "Against The Odds" by James Dyson, the last chapter details Mr. Dyson's "Coming To America" story. He talks about the decision to Move the factory from England to Malaysia, due to the fact that the town in England where the factory was located would NOT allow him to expand the factory. He would NEVER have been able to make enough cleaners for the U.S. market (let along the WORLD market) in England had he not been able to expand the factory. Perhaps he should have just bought the abandoned Hoover factory in North Canton, Ohio. Now that Hoover makes new Hoovers in China. James also talkes about the fact that Dyson cleaners are made (in Malaysia) in the SAME factory as Sony and Hewlett Packard. The few companies that still make vacuums in America are Air-Way, Fairfax, Kirby, Rainbow, Thermax, and Silver King. Don't know, off hand, of any others. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by vacuuman on 06/29/06 at 8:20pm Tacony makes all of their uprights here. Before Tacony bought Riccar and Simplicity, they were also made in Asia. "In sourcing." |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/29/06 at 8:38pm "The few companies that still make vacuums in America are Air-Way, Fairfax, Kirby, Rainbow, Thermax, and Silver King. Don't know, off hand, of any others." Many of the HOOVER vacuums, like the WindTunnel canister just to mention one, are made in the USA. Add ORECK to the list of in-sourced vacuums of the USA. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/29/06 at 8:52pm "Yes there is Terrorism in that part of the world but the Malaysian government has been praised by many for thier support in the war against terrorists. Are you proposing we send troops to help them in this..." If you read the transcript of the Feingold interview, it is the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and General Casey who propose withdrawing the US troops from Iraq to deploy to countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, and Somalia. Reason: The rising number of terrorists in these countries which are on the "watch list" and known safe havens for terrorists. Would you expect that they would propose sending US troops into these countries if the governments were doing a good job to keep the terrorists out. ;) To stimulate the economies of these countries? Like Iraq? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 06/30/06 at 9:45am " Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) Falsely Accuses Army Gen. George Casey Of Supporting Kerry-Feingold “Cut And Run” Plan: Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI): “Not only does it make sense, but it sort of shows that all this talk about a timetable being unreasonable or ridiculous is just wrong. Even General Casey is talking about how realistic it is to bring the troops home. And our timetable that we proposed last week had to do with bringing the troops home within one year. I mean, how is this different?” (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 6/25/06) Army Gen. George Casey: “I’m confident that we’ll be able to continue to take reductions over the course of this year.” (“U.S. Forces In Iraq To Shrink, Casey Says,” United Press International, 6/23/06) “But Casey Added He Had Made No Final Decision On Troop Withdrawals. He Said He First Wanted To Discuss The Security Situation With Iraq’s Recently Named Defense And Interior Ministers.” (“U.S. Forces In Iraq To Shrink, Casey Says,” United Press International, 6/23/06)" "“Russ Feingold's brazen effort to mischaracterize the words of our military's leaders reflects a commitment that is long on campaign politics and short on national security. - Tracey Schmitt, RNC Press Secretary" Not only did Feingold mischarecterize Gen. Casey's position but Carmine as taken it a step further and said Gen. Casey says we should send troops to Malaysia. ??? I think all involved on either side of the arguement on Iraq hopes the troops in Iraq will be able to be pulled out as soon as possible what this has to do with your attacks on Dyson is a quite interesting stretch. Should recent terror plot arrests in Canada and the US have companies deciding not to produce product there? Malaysia's government has been praised for supporting the battle against worldwide terror not quite sure why the attack against them and the hoisting of China as preferable. I dont quite get your hatred of dyson but lets stop short of going after the economy of our allies in the war against terrorism and definetly short of having it effect US troop deployment. As was said here it looks like Feingold "pulled a Carmine" and decided on his side of the arguement and then tried to bend the facts to fit instead of the other way around. So we get your point Carmine, don't buy dysons because they are made in Malaysia, Malaysia is about 60% Muslim, and they are still having issues with terrorist groups. Ignore the fact they have also fought against Chinese backed communist guerilla's, and all hail the Chinese government made Hoovers. Now that we get your stance can we go back to talking about vacuum quality and news? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/30/06 at 11:18am James should mark the boxes clearly with large print so all buyers can readi easily: Made in Malaysia. Truth in advertising. James should label the vacuums too with the place of origin too like all other vacuum makers do. So when people are asked: Where is your dyson made, they know: Malaysia. In 1991/2, the US supported Iran against an attack from Iraq with US troops: Desert Shield, Desert Storm. Today, Iran is on the terrorist watch list (along with Malaysia). And very likely a country we'll send US troops into after they are withdrawn from Iraq. ;) Malaysia too, in time may have that notoriety. As I mentioned (excuse me for repeating myself until you get it), your news is out of date. News accounts recently confirm that the Pentagon and the Bush administration have a timetable for troop reduction in Iraq, contrary to your quoted sources, and identical to Feingold's democratic proposal. The republicans, sadly, are waiting for a politically advantageous time to release the plan (like mid term elections). Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 06/30/06 at 12:36pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Dyson are labeled with thier place of origin any claim otherwise is not the truth. Carmine_Difazio wrote:
"United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 2 August 1990 The Security Council, Alarmed by the invasion of Kuwait on 2 August 1990 by the military forces of Iraq, Determining that there exists a breach of international peace and security as regards the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, Acting under Articles 39 and 40 of the Charter of the United Nations, 1. Condemns the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait; 2. Demands that Iraq withdraw immediately and unconditionally all its forces to the positions in which they were located on 1 Augusst 1990; 3. Calls upon Iraq and Kuwait to begin immediately intensive negotiations for the resolution of their differences and supports all efforts in this regard, and especially those of the League of Arab States. 4. Decides to meet again as necessary to consider further steps to ensure compliance with the present resolution. Adopted by 14 votes to none, with one abstention(Yemen) Of the 15 Security members five are permanent: China, France, Soviet Union, United Kingdom, and the United States. In 1990, the remaining members, elected by the General Assembly to serve two-year terms, were: Canada, Colombia, Cuba, Ethiopia, Finland, Ivory Coast, Malaysia, Romania, Yemen, and Zaire." Excuse my frankness but your dishonest claim Desert Storm was the US defending Iran is downright insulting. If you want to continue that debate lets do it via PM as a Desert Storm/Desert Shield veteran I find that blatant mischaracterization deeply insulting. Please also note as Malaysia was a member at the time of the UN security council please note Malaysia's stance on the issue. Sorry Comrade in current world conditions I will take the democraticly elected supporter of the global war on terror Malaysia as a business partner any day over China. Now can we please get back to Vacuums? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/30/06 at 3:03pm Yes, the box is marked on the smallest add on sticker allowed in the US in the smallest lettering allowed. I think if James is so proud, he should make the place of origin clearly visible and legible for buyers to read. ANd he should add the place of production to the vacuum like other makers do. He doesn't. Iran and US were allies in Desert Storm and Desert Shield and US troops staged its attack against Iraq from Iran. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 06/30/06 at 4:08pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Alright this is just getting silly. Dyson's do have their place of production on the machine right next to the serial number. A quote otherwise is not the truth. Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Simply delusional. Lets get back to vacuums and debate foreign policy when you have some grasp of the facts. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/30/06 at 5:35pm Gee that's funny. I've never seen Malaysia on the vacuum label. Is it in English? Delusional, allies with Iran? I was on duty too in the States during Desert Storm and Desert Shield. The US sent daily and weekly photos of bomb targets before and after to Iran for distribution to the local field commanders. ;) It's nice to know that you have developed a newly acquired penchant for truthfulness on Forums. Now you may feel ready to quickly respond with an answer whether dyson dealers, like yourself, sign a non-disclosure agreement wrt dyson products and their flaws. :) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 06/30/06 at 9:17pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Yes it is for all to see. A simple fact you can not change with false claims. Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Yes quite delusional. For one to say "Iran and US were allies in Desert Storm and Desert Shield and US troops staged its attack against Iraq from Iran." is quite frankly delusional. Once again no need for debate, you and I disagree on these facts and I am quite comfortable with others checking the dyson label as well as where the desert storm/desert shield coalation staged its liberation of Kuwait and if Iran was a US ally in the early 1990's. As for those who are big fans of the close US/Iran alliance also know that you will get better customer service and Walmart than your local vacuum shop and the Chinese made Hoover Fusion never looses suction. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 06/30/06 at 9:39pm JimB wrote:
And to think that Wallmart always claimed "Made In The USA. Profits must be great on those Chinese made Hoovers to make Wallmart drop its allegiance to the USA. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/01/06 at 3:37am As usual, you didn't answer my question about dyson dealers and non-disclosure agreements? ;) Thank you for the answer. By your negligence once more to answer, you conspicuously have provided the response. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/01/06 at 10:26am Yes, as you know independent vacuum dealers sign agreements with the manufacturers they deal with directly. As you also know as a repair shop you gain access to technical information that manufactures don't want handed right over to the competition. This is not only common contract language it is also common employment language. Best Buy, Sears, Target, etc... all will have there employees sign some type of non disclosure language. Any company with propietary information is likely to have some now disclosure language in employment agreements. You must know that companies with propietary technical info would never reveal inside information to a "consultant" such as yourself without having non disclosure agreements signed. Unfortunately as there will always be some nutcase that says we based our Desert Storm troops in Iran there will also be a few bad eggs that don't honor their word hand that information over to the competion anyhow. I have also had the occasion to sign non disclosure agreements when viewing future products and programs. Now Carmine I know it may surprise you but one can be honest with a customer about the strengths, weakness, and features of varying machines without revealing propietary technical info and or future products. Now as for you being "on duty" during Desert Storm/Desert Shield and sending troop movements to the military of a hostile country that is a state sponsor of terror. The US has no diplomatic relations with Iran and this has never before become public didn't you have to sign something not to reveal classified information? ??? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/01/06 at 10:49am Dear Sirs, what does this all have to do with vacuum cleaner sales, service and repairs. I feel like i'm being interorgated by the F.B.I. thanks for your time............ O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/01/06 at 11:09am Thanks Old timer. I just noticed a PM and it does look like Carmine as taken up my offer for the political portion of this to occur via PM. Still not quite sure how dyson became an enemy in the war on terror ;) but either way... Now back to Vacuums.... |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/01/06 at 11:18am Hi JimB, thank you, hows business been ,for us sales are a little off , service stays about the same. have you been looking into any new vacuum lines? O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/01/06 at 12:27pm Old timer, Business has been steady as of late, nothing out of the ordinary. I am not looking at any new lines currently, but am anxious to see how a few new upcoming machines from current lines will effect profits. Also am hearing rumors that one of the current lines is going to have some major changes to their warranty and trying to get a handle on the effects that will have. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/01/06 at 12:52pm Hi JimB, what we find with companies that offer stronger than usual warranty's[standard issue canister motor warranty 2 to 5 years], is that the 5 year and more are easier to sell, some even go 7 to 10 years on the power unit parts and labor,and one that I know of has a 25 year parts and labor warranty on the power unit. I believe that most consumers relate how good a product is by the warranty that comes with it,when customers spend the long dollars most want great protection when it comes to service and parts. O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/01/06 at 5:34pm This weekend and July 4th are the official kickoff of the summer and summer season vacuum sales. It's a HOOVER weekend of sales and the new WindTunnel 2 gets the coveted premier advertising space in the Parade. And just about all the other major retailers too have the HOOVER WindTunnel 2 on sale. The PARADE features the Complete WindTunnel 2. BEST BUY features the WindTunnel Surface Command for $339. TARGET has the WindTunnel Extra Reach $299. It's a HOOVER WindTunnel windfall for big box retailers' sales. HOME DEPOT features the Maytag Legacy line from HOOVER: Canister for $139; Uprighht for $149 (looks exactly like the FUSION and FUSION Plus; and the SteamVac for $239. (Take another 10 percent off for the Holiday sale). Even Kohls gets into the HOOVER picture with the EmPower for $79 and the SteamVac for $99. It's a HOOVER blowout weekend of sales. Small mention goes to the dyson DC14. BEST BUY has the Animal for sale for $549 before a $50 gift card. TARGET has the exclusive drive for $459. Big winner for breaking out the summer season of sales is the HOOVER WindTunnel 2. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/01/06 at 9:17pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Do they ever have sales on those pleated Hoover filters? The will cost more than the vacuum during a cople years use. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/02/06 at 3:38am BEST BUY is offering a $50 Gift Card with a dyson DC14 purchase. $50 should cover the cost of both of the dyson foam filters. Of course, you can also buy the replacement filters made for dyson which are much less expensive than the dyson brand. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/02/06 at 9:03am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I see you have no answer directly related to my question. Dyson has no filthy pleated filter that requires constant maintenance. You should know that. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/02/06 at 9:21am HARDSELL wrote:
Of course there is an answer and I provided it to you. Dyson foamy filters (pre-post motor) require maintenance and replacement just like all pourous filters. THat's the reason there are bojackers jumping on the dyson filter after market. My preference in bagless vacuum filters is pleated self-cleaning filters which to my knowledge only HOOVER offers in the HOOVER Z and WindTunnel 2. If you/others who like dyson vacuums prefer foamy filters like those used by dyson be my guest. It's your money, time and effort. Check out the dyson bojack filters made by Honeywell at Wal-Mart. Good prices. I'm surprised James hasn't threatened Honeywell/Wal-Mart with a lawsuit. Yet? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Bruce on 07/04/06 at 4:37am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
What money, time and effort. You call rinsing a filter out every six months time and effort. And all the owners I personally know that own Dysons have never had to replace their filters to date.. and these machines have been around several years now. You're simply blowing more hot air around as usual. You're getting to be a pro at it! |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/04/06 at 11:07am You should know. You're the hot air expert! Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/04/06 at 11:10am KOHL's is offering a $100 Gift Card on the purchase of any dyson. All priced at MSRP. Promotion runs for a week. No other brand is included. Just for the dyson vacuums. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Bruce on 07/04/06 at 8:46pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I and many others on this forum do know and know quite well how much of a pro you really are at providing pure BS whenever the "D" word arises in a conversation! Six months duration between cleaning a foam filter is hardly inconvenience nor is there any expense involved whatsoever. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/05/06 at 5:51am You and HS are off topic and looking to "flame" to lock out my thread on retailers and their weekly advertisments. Nice try. It won't work. Retailers' advertised sales and promotions are an excellent source of industry information about the success of brand makes and models. I intend to keep this thread going despite you and HS who would like otherwise. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/05/06 at 8:43am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Carmine, No one is trying to end your thread but when you give out incorrect information don't be surprised when someone corrects it. Dyson has one washable premotor filter that needs to be rinsed about twice a year and one Hepa filter (that is not foam by the way). Neither should need replacing under normal household cleaning conditions. I do recommend my customer buy a spare washable as most think to check it and rinse it before using it and the filter needs to be completely dry for use. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/05/06 at 11:05am BEST BUY is offering $50 Gift Card and Kohls a $100 Gift Card toward the purchase of ANY dyson in stock. It just so happens that $50 equals the total price of the two foamy filters for the dyson vacuums unless you buy the bojack brands. $100 gets you a double set of both. Two for two. This is the creative marketing that you mentioned some time back that dyson and retailers would use to sell the dyson vacuums. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/05/06 at 1:16pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
As pointed out in another thread, be careful taking this advice as using non authorized parts will typically void warranties. Replacing a part that does not need to be replaced with another that would void the warranty is not what most would advise. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by dualcyclone on 07/05/06 at 3:11pm Jim B: Excellent advice. Most vacuum cleaner manufacturers only warrant their machines against Defects in Material or Workmanship. They specifically do NOT warrant their machines against damage caused by use of non-genuine parts, or damage as a result of Normal Wear and Tear. Accidents and Owner Tampering are also not considered defects, and would not be covered. To Me, a very long warranty is misleading. For example, a ten year (or 8 year, or 5 year, whatever) motor warranty is silly. Reason? After 5 years, the service center will find some reason (worn carbons, worn bearings, worn armature) that the motor failed, NOT RELATED to a defect in material or workmanship. I believe 2 years is quite long. After two years, if something was MADE WRONG (defect in material or workmanship), that Defect will have Already Shown Up. Interestingly, I have to deal with this on a daily basis. People come in with Kirbys, with a broken fan (or failed brush bearing or failed switch module) and tell me that the Kirby has a "lifetime guarantee", or that the thing was "broken" when they "bought it". Which of course, it wasn't. Remember the forum poster who returned his Dyson to Best Buy, telling them it didn't work properly, when all along the problem was a dirty filter? Use of Non-Genuine replacement parts is just another way that a manufacturer has to void people's warranties. The fact that Wally World and Target are now stocking BoJack parts EXCLUSIVELY is a detriment to the performance of the machine and a slap in the face to the customer, who is voiding their warranty without realizing it. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/05/06 at 3:47pm JimB wrote:
I wonder why Honeywell would make and sell replacement dyson filters if these supposedly last a lifetime and never need replacing. Surely not to lose money! ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Bruce on 07/07/06 at 1:30pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/08/06 at 4:13am Trying to flame throw Bruce to lock out my thread. Won't work guy. I know the answer. And you and Spin Jim don't need to tell me. You need to figure it out. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/08/06 at 12:43pm No need for the drama, no one is trying to lockout out your thread. You incorrectly stated that dyson has two foam filters and implied they needed frequent changing. Both statements are untrue. Instead of fessing up you spin and protest that "this is my thread how dare someone correct me". I look forward to reading what vacuums are in this Sunday Parade Magazine tommorow morning as this is the only place I hear this info. ;) |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/08/06 at 3:34pm Spin Jim: The irony in your last statement is very revealing. I'd say I am right on with my interpretation of your and the dyson fans motives. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/08/06 at 4:16pm No irony intended so take off your tin foil hat and stop looking for black helicopters. I am just not sure what the Sunday Parade is. It appears to be a magazine or newspaper insert of some sort but just not one I am familar with. It must be where you get your info that the dysons hepa filter is foam and washable and we are on the verge of invading Malaysia.... |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/08/06 at 4:25pm Good Spin Jim! Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/08/06 at 4:36pm No need for name calling, just tell me where to find the second foam filter in this dyson. I've taken it completely apart and can't find two foam filters. I know it is easier to accuse someone of spinning than to admit you were wrong. So what, you thought dyson had a foamy post motor filter. Really not that big of a mistake, its not like your an expert on the machine, no need to call others names over it. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/08/06 at 7:44pm You got me again Spin Jim. You are really something. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/09/06 at 9:44am If its Sunday, it's sales time in vacuum land and who gets the coveted PARADE section yet again: HOOVER compliments this week of BEST BUY. Featured by BEST BUY are the new HOOVER WindTunnel 2 EXTRA REACH for $299, the HOOVER Steam Vac and another recent HOOVER addition, the Elite upright for $99 with a 24 foot retractable cord. Proudly displayed is the HOOVER emblem with the following: "Cleans Carpet better than ANY leading brand. And the following footnote: As tested per ASTM International Test F608, proven by the only recognized test representing real-life conditions in American Homes." Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/09/06 at 10:00am Hi Carmine, it looks like Hoover is on the right track again, it's a wonderful thing to see this ICON , being run by people that know the vacuum industry inside and out. O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/09/06 at 11:35am So you inspired me to check out the website for Parade Magazine. I can see why Carmine is such a fan. This site is peppered with Hoover advertisements linked right to Hoovers site. I did not realize until this morning that the Windtunnel 2 has only a 1 year warranty. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by C.H.R.I.S. on 07/09/06 at 11:58am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I get the NY Times and we don't have a Parade insert in our paper. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/09/06 at 3:04pm Neither do the Wall Street Journal or the Investors Business Daily. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/15/06 at 11:04am It's the weekend and vacuum sales abound. Once again the coveted PARADE section premiers the HOOVER WindTunnel 2. But this week the Surface Command for $339, the HOOVER canister for $49 and the HOOVER SteamVac. Compliments once again of BEST BUY. But wait. Who else is joining in on the coveted PARADE advertising section. None other than Mr. Most Recognized Business Man: David Oreck. Not with vacuums, but he sneaks one in, but with Air Purifiers. Gotta love that PARADE section. Dave is looking good for 84 and A WW 11 veteran. Much better than some others who like to advertise their vacuum products and are much younger. ;) Speaking of BEST BUY, it has the same DC07 for $399 with the $30 Gift Card. (Boring). SEARS has a better deal for one day only (right now). And today is the day. THe DC14 All Floors for $429 before a 10 percent mail-in rebate. Trying hard to sell them high priced dysons now that the market demand is waning and the market is saturated. Retail sales are down in June. The June and July Michigan University Consumer Confidence Indices are down. High gas prices are taking a toll on consumers' discretionary income. Sales will abound to push products. Of course HOME DEPOT is still premiering their HOOVER Legacy Series. Way to go HOOVER. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/15/06 at 12:41pm More Pro Hoover spin and personal dyson hate talk. Old and boring. I have seen the "Maytag" Legacy but don't think is is "premeiring" as it has been there for about a month. The "Maytag" legacy series can be found at the Home Depot but the "Hoover" Legacy series must be new can you tell us where to find it? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/15/06 at 6:34pm Spin Jim: I give the dyson DC14 All Floors a plug at SEARS today for $429 before a 10 percent mail in rebate and its called dyson hate speak. I thought I was doing you dysonians a favor by plugging your fave bagless vacuum. Can't please everyone and others are just never satisfied unless they get the final spin. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/15/06 at 7:51pm JimB wrote:
Advertisements are dependent on regions. The legacy may be premiering in Carmine's region. Remember, he is 50 years behind the times. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Legacy on 07/15/06 at 10:03pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Maybe he was talking about your last sentence there. Make sense? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by C.H.R.I.S. on 07/15/06 at 10:35pm The new Hoover WT 2 AKA "Carpet Killer" was displayed on the end cap at my locale BB. But the aisle with the Dyson had all the traffic.... Go figure |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Mike_W. on 07/16/06 at 3:54am C.H.R.I.S. wrote:
Just maybe some day you will realize that HOOVER does not make "Carpet Killer" vacuum cleaners. What testing have you done on this NEW HOOVER WT2 that shows it is what you say? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/16/06 at 4:06am What he meant to say was: HOOVER WT 2 is a Killer Carpet Cleaner (to paraphrase Consumer Reports). Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/23/06 at 2:56pm And the winner is HOOVER Windtunnel 2 with both the premier PARADE space (compliments this week to LOWE'S) and BEST BUY. LOWE'S has the Extra Reach for $298, good price. And an array of other HOOVER vacuum and floorcare products including 2 from Murderers' Row: The Self-propelled HOOVER bagged WT with Filtrete bags only $228, a great buy. And for the bagless fans, the bagless WT for $158 WITH a free extra HEPA filter, a $29.95 value. It gets better. The second Murderers' Row floorcare product the HOOVER SteamVac for $298 and the all new Elite HEPA rated upright with 24 foot cord rewind for $99, a buy since the regular price is $130. Nice thing about this dirt bin the components easily undo for complete cleaning and drying. Not to be outdone, BEST BUY has the HOOVER WT 2 Surface Command for $305, reduced from the MSRP of $339. A nice feature of this particular WT is the electronic rug height adjustment introed on the HOOVER Z. Target has the Vibe bagged upright for $89 regular $99. And the DC14 Animal for $549. Sorry no discounts or creative marketing to make it more attractive. A better buy at Target, if you are not affected by the past year's soaring gas prices and not worried about oil going to $100 barrel, in other words money is no object, is the dyson DC14 Drive. At $459 it is a much better buy than the Animal. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/23/06 at 3:07pm Hi Carmine, I see hoover back to destroying vacuum prices again, Whats the little guy to do? I see The D machine is holding their prices, Thats good for the indy's and E-bay. B.T.W. do you think dyson will up the warranty or lower the price? O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by M00seUK on 07/23/06 at 3:20pm On the warranty subject, while grocery shopping the other week, I walked by the floorcare section and noticed a promo for free 5 years extended warranty on all Dyson models. It was a time limited in-store promo, but backed with Dyson POS - most likely to counter the reliability claims, so less likely to appear in the US, with mid-term reliability surveys there still to be completed. On this note, I'd like to think more newly designed models sold in the US will show a truer picture of Dyson's reliability performance. As ever, we shall see... soon. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/23/06 at 3:43pm Hi MOOseUK, I thought that you said you owned a dc11 canister, If I'm wrong please correct me. Do you have any info on the release of the canister in the states. And will it use the same dual cyclone set up as the uprights. And will it use use an electric power brush ?. If you cant answer i fully understand why. Thanks. O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/23/06 at 4:57pm old-timer wrote:
This is nothing new for HOOVER. In the 60's and 70's when it was becoming impossible for the independents to match the big retailers' prices for new HOOVERS, I started a consortium of small independents who were authorized HOOVER sales and service. We pooled resources and ordered in 24 lot quantities to get the best deals (price and promotions) so we could compete price wise with the big dogs. I stored and delievered new pieces (or the HOOVER rep) to stores as needed. It worked well. And we were able to provide parts and service too. Win win. Wrt dyson, both. More attractive warranty and prices. We've already seen their prices discounted as much as 20 percent by some retailers and BEST BUY with the DC15 ALL Floors even more. It has to happen. Why? Contrary to what some would like to believe discretionary income for appliance purchases like vacuums is getting squeezed by the higher fuel prices. For working class people they are feeling the crunch of the higher gas costs in their budgets. A $400 plus vacuum becomes more difficult to buy. And with prices going to $100 a gallon, the economics is worse not better. For every increas of $1 a barrel, the price at the pump goes up a nickel a gallon at a minimum. More with state, local taxes and tariffs. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/23/06 at 5:14pm Yes Carmine, i fully remember the 1to6, 6 to 12, 12 to 24 ,and better pricing, sometimes they would throw in free tools or pay the freight. Even started the 30,60,90, day plan. Other companies followed with similar offers. Remember the bakers dozen offer?. O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by tiger21 on 07/23/06 at 7:48pm The two year warranty that Dyson has on it's machines are dictated to them when they take their tests to be sold in Europe. It is not by their choice but government. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/23/06 at 8:32pm old-timer wrote:
Hoover has no choice if they want to compete with Dyson. If comsumers are paying a premium they want a premium vacuum like Dyson. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/24/06 at 6:36am HARDSELL wrote:
ORECK is a much better choice. ;D Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by cprohman on 07/24/06 at 1:27pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Gas prices aren't rising, really, when you look at it from a worldwide perspective. What is happening is that the value of the dollar is falling again, with the result that with oil prices remaining firm worldwide, it takes more US Dollars to pay for the same amount of oil. Note that this will also mean that it will take more US dollars to pay for other imported items, such as vacuums made in China, Malaysia, Korea, Japan, and Europe. Since the Chinese currency doesn't float freely, it will have the least effect on Chinese products, and the most effect on products such as Sebo, Miele, etc. where the smaller parent company can't absorb currency fluctuations for long periods. As the coming depression edges ever closer, we should be in the last stages of the economic cycle. Baby boomers should still have sufficient discretionary income to buy higher priced vacuums like Miele, Dyson, Oreck, or central systems, if they believe it is the best out there. Three years from now the market will be very different. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/24/06 at 3:07pm CPro: I'm not going to engage you and your economic theories because there is no right or wrong. Since this thread is about BEST BUY and you posted, I'll use the opportunity to reiterate what I said to you a year ago on this Forum. I noticed that the price per share of BEST BUY and Wal*Mart stocks are almost right at parity today. BB is poised to test its 52 week low. Why do you think? Could it be perhaps the effects of over a year of increasingly higher gas prices? Are consumers feeling squeezed on discretionary income? Do you think oil and gas prices peaked? Or is there more upward price pressure? I personally think $80 a barrel by year end is possible and $100 a barrel is not unthinkable. If you think these upward oil and gas prices do not affect consumer buying, especially of high priced appliances, I will disagree. I agree with the economists who follow and report on these developments. It's finally affecting consumer spending. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by cprohman on 07/24/06 at 3:49pm It remains true that over the last couple years, Best Buy has outperformed WMT, and most other retailers: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=BBY&t=2y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=wmt,shld,bbby If you look at a longer period of time, like 15 years, the difference is even more dramatic: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=BBY&t=my&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=wmt,shld,bbby While Best Buy seems to be well run, rather than attributing this to their management, I would attribute it as much as anything to the demographic cycle and market sector. Aging baby boomers, hooked on electronics, with rising incomes, have been a recipe for dramatic growth in a hot segment, while Walmart was in a more conservative general retailing sector, including groceries. WMT performed well within their sector, but their sector is not as volatile as electronics: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=my&s=TGT&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=wmt+wndxq.pk Volatility can be your friend on the upside, but it can also work against you when the market turns they other direction. If I were forced to put money into retail stocks, I would pick a grocery company over electronics at this point in the economic cycle. Another choice might be auto parts, but unfortunately all the major autoparts companies are heavily leveraged, and not well prepared for an economic downturn. Are gas prices having an impact on the economy? Yes, but the effect is not evenly distributed across the economy. It is especially true at the lower end of the economy that a difference in gas prices will affect discretionary spending. We see that in our tanning business, for example, where business falls off whenever gas prices spike. On the other hand, as people adapt to the higher prices, the spending seems to come back fairly quickly. Our sales in May-June were under budget, for example, following the drop of the dollar in April, but July has been strong. We are up about 6% year to date, not too bad considering the average tanning business is off about 20% this year, from what I hear. In drycleaning, by contrast, spending comes from a higher income group, and those people do not seem to have been impacted by the higher gas prices yet. In drycleaning we are off about 4% year to date, but we closed two stores, so same-store sales are actually up significantly. In fact, you can attribute most of our revenue decline to the fact that we have lost a significant amout of revenue as the Army Reserve has switched to a new fatigue that doesn't require pressing. We do not see any indication of volume changes related to gas prices at this point. Applying my experience, I would expect to see that high end vacuums are less affected by gas prices than lower end models. As for Central, given that Central vacuums are largely sold into the new construction market, and given that new home construction is starting to wind down into a halt that will last about 20 years, I wouldn't be too optimistic about central vacuum sales in the next several years. Typically home buyers buy a new home every 7 years starting about age 25-30 and ending about age 40-48, and given that most baby boomers are at the end of that cycle, there won't be another major need for new upper end homes again until the follow on baby boom, now 15, reaches about 35-40. As for whether gas prices reach $80-100 a barrel this year, I think it largely depends on how fast the dollar loses value. I think that the major countries will support the dollar about about 80, a major psychological level, and a fourty year low. They supported it at that level the last time the currency was this low, and assuming that they are sucessful, you won't see oil prices at the levels you discussed. If you ignore the effect of the falling dollar, oil prices really aren't changing very much. Note that natural gas prices, most of which are produced in the US and not affected by the dollar value, are actually lower than they were at this time last year. For me forecasting oil prices into years ahead is difficult. Worldwide oil production is peaking, and will not be expanding. If you project continued worldwide economic prosperity into the years ahead, then given fixed production, it is easy to project dramatically rising prices. If, like me, you project a major worldwide depression, then the projection is not so easy, because demand may actually fall enough to more than compensate for the lack of production increases. I have no opinion on whether oil prices will rise or fall in years ahead, after adjusting for inflation. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by M00seUK on 07/24/06 at 7:29pm old-timer wrote:
You're going to find this amusing but I actually have a simple Panasonic (Matsushita) canister :-) Since I'm not a vac collector, a vac store owner or someone asking vac questions, let me give people here my background. Showing my relatively young age (28). I have vague memories of a cloth bagged Hoover upright when I young. This was replaced in the mid-80s by a Electrolux upright, which must have been one of the first model with the built-in (James Dyson inspired) cleaning house, although without a cross-over valve. From early 90s onwards, our family had a Hoover upright, with a small built-in hose that could be stored on the cleaner - a really rubbish hose that had next to no length. So like most kids I always remember vacs for messing around with, like using the hose attachment for pulling all the mucus out of your nose when you had a cold *em* In the late 90s, I was at a friend's house. They had this vacuum there I'd never previously heard of, a Dyson. "Oh *everyone* is getting these" they'd say. I thought no more of it. I'd likely seen the tv adverts at the time, but didn't know nor care what it was all about. After leaving college, I continued working in retail in my home town, moving from part to full time. That's why a few of my posts here have retail-based terms, I loved those days of 'playing shop'. After a year, the job showed itself to have limited prospects, so I handed in my notice and used to opportunity to travel around Canada for a few weeks. At the bookstore before my trip, whilst looking for travel reading, I noticed 'Against the odds' by James Dyson. It's summary sounded interesting, so I took it along with me. It turned out to be hugely inspiring, a great read. On returning, on the way back to the airport, I called in to an electrical store, to purchase a DC04. A month later, I'd secured a new job in London, in my field of graphic design. For my first apartment, I had the pass-me-down from pre-mentioned Hoover upright, but brand loyalty for this bagless cleaning lark was already setting in, so I often got my family to bring the Dyson down when they could, to give the carpets a 'proper' clean! My second flat share in london came complete with a Dyson DC01 upright, so it was cool to see the design changes between that and the DC04. 2 years later, this time in a house share, with a DC07 and again could appreciate the improvements. Then with the DC15 launch last year, I convinced my folks to invest in that upright. So as you'll see, during all this time, I've only been around uprights, sans one occasion last year when helping a friend move and tiding up with a Dyson DC08 canister. My dad, being an electrical engineer, frequently diagnoses / repairs upright and canister vacuums for clients of my mum, who's an in-home care worker. Typically older people who buy a cheap bagless cleaner but soon wonder why the motor won't start or where all the suction has suddenly gone... As with this Panasonic canister included with my latest rented apartment, I haven't used it once in the 5 months I've been here. It's all wood laminate flooring and much similar to use a soft brush and a swifter-style cloth than getting a dirty lumbering cleaner out. I've seen the Dyson DC11 in the stores, but it looks too big and clunky for my requirements, I don't need a powerhouse cleaner in my present place, just a small canister - a DC12 or a variation on it would be perfect. I have no special insights in to Dyson's future technologies, other than occasionally scanning the patent databases and reading write-ups in the news. I guess I'm fascinated by how Dyson can turn (to many) a typically mundane appliance in to an object of desire with cool features! I'm also now three years in to being self-employed, 'the Dyson story' along with other entrepreneur success stories gives me hope and ambition for my own projects. However hard some days seem, it can't be tough as re-designing a domestic appliance from scratch! It's hard to predict exactly the spec of Dyson's impending US canister, only that there's been a fair time since the DC11 was discontinued. They appear to have more than enough design knowledge in producing powered cleaning heads - it's likely they could have had an updated model rolling off the production lines within 3months. So why the delay? Something special coming along? They like their R&D spend, 'helps in creating a more interesting advertising brief... |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/25/06 at 2:02pm Hi Moose , Thanks for your reply, I hope your knowledge on design carries you far. Stick with it. You know whats funny is that i just got done servicing a panasonic canister mc772, the machine runs and sounds like the day it was made, Panasoic always gave a good machine for the money. regards. O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by tiger21 on 07/25/06 at 11:47pm Cpro, I don't know where you are coming up with a depression coming on. You have never been in one that I know about. Recessions are always talked about by the economists. If people listen and believe what they say, people take a recess in buying.That is bad for the economy and bad for the workers. My business of vacuum cleaners in times when people are scared about money. The consumer buys the cleaners that will last and are higher priced. WHY? Because they don't or won't have disposable cash to buy a cheap vac that may last only a year or two when ever they want. The buyers are not the rich or lower class but middle class. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by cprohman on 07/26/06 at 11:34am I have answered your questions via PM. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/27/06 at 7:48am tiger21 wrote:
An excellent argument for consumers to buy a better crafted vacuum from a reputable vacuum cleaner business. You get your money's worth. The vacuum will last a lifetime with the the proper service and care, which is only available from a vacuum professional in the business. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/27/06 at 8:47pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
An excellent argument for consumers to buy a better crafted vacuum from a reputable vacuum cleaner business. You get your money's worth. The vacuum will last a lifetime with the the proper service and care, which is only available from a vacuum professional in the business. Carmine D. [/quote] What would you estimate the annual cost to keep a vac running a lifetime? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/28/06 at 8:54am [quote author=HARDSELL link=1128267837/330#339 date=1154047659What would you estimate the annual cost to keep a vac running a lifetime?[/quote] My opinion (and this is without the specifics and details like make, useful life, cost) a vacuum should cost the user about 1-3 percent of the original cost to use per year (not counting electricity and time and effort). Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by cprohman on 07/28/06 at 10:18am In my stores I expect a vacuum to cost about $70-80 a year to keep running. On the one hand I can buy a new $70-80 vacuum annually, or I can buy a more expensive vacuum, and pay for periodic repairs, but it lasts longer, and the cost comes out the same. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 07/28/06 at 12:09pm Wow! I'm hoping my Iridium proves to be a record breaker in this sense. Nonetheless cprohaman I have yet to spend that much on a vacuum after sale. I do change bags before they are crammed full and also check and clean filters and check belts. I have yet to have a vacuum die on me. If my vacuum maintenance cost averages more than $30 per year I'd be surprised. The only vacuum I've owned that put a dent in my wallet was a cheap and bagless Euro-Pro lightweght upright. Due to the impossibility of restoring it to "out-of-the-box" clean, the very necessary replacement of a HEPA filter every few months ran at about $18 a pop. I've since donated it to the NYC Department of Sanitation. Regards, Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by cprohman on 07/28/06 at 1:35pm Venson, remember that I'm talking about vacuums used in commercial stores, and used by employees who don't necessarily take care of their vacuum. Surprisingly, my costs at home haven't been that much different. For example, I had a Hoover Dimension canister for about 12 years. It cost about $450 new, plus I had 2 repairs of the motor, both about $150. We probably used about $15 in bags a year. Thus my 12 year cost was $930, which comes to about $77 a year. My current home vacuum is an Air-way. I paid $650 for it 5 years ago, plus I use about $15 a year in bags, plus another $15 a year in filters (2 carbon and one HEPA). If it runs 15 years without a repair, my cost will be $650+14*30, or $71 a year. Note that I am including the purchase price as part of the cost. As for my Dysons, I paid an average of about $350 each for 4, and have spent about $200 on repairs so far between the four. Thus my total cost now is about $1600. If they reach an average age of 5 years before dying, my cost will be about $80 a year. Another example was a Simplicity that I bought for $500. It needed one repair of about $200, plus probably $15 a year in bags, and lasted 8 years. The cost per year was $102.50. We have used cheap Hoovers and Eurekas that cost $59, but they have lasted probably 9 months on average for an annual cost of about $80 a year. As for your Iridium, if you pay $20 a year in misc costs, and paid $400 for it, if it lasts 7 years, your average cost per year will end up about $75 a year. If you have one $200 repair, and it lasts 11 years, your cost will be $73 a year. All vacuums seem to come out in this same range, if you include the purchase cost. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 07/28/06 at 1:57pm Sorry cprohman, I did overlook the point regarding personal use. Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/30/06 at 12:24pm Back to vacuum sales and bigbox retailers. Once again HOOVER and the WindTunnel 2 get the coveted PARADE space thanks to SEARS this week. THe Extra Reach for $299 and 2 more of HOOVER's murderer's row floorcare products: The traditional WT self-propelled bagged with 3m filtrete and an extra bonus stretch hose all for $229. SEARS is advertising this same model in its own weekend sales supplement for the same price. Lastly the HOOVER SteamVac for $199. But wait, not to be outdone by HOOVER, David Oreck in all his glory is advertising in the PARADE for his Oreck XL 21 with the usual giveaways AND of course 8 free lifetime tuneups and an 8 year warranty. Once again HOME DEPOT has its HOOVER Legacy series on sale for the usual prices. And HOOVER gets the nod too from BEST BUY with the HOOVER Elite Rewind for $99 and the SteamVac for $149. The mighty dyson DC14 Animal is for sale for $$549. No bargains here. Nor free some some either. Check out the DC14 Drive at Target for $459, it may be a better deal for you if you are dyson inclined. Speaking of SEARS and KMart, as some posters were, this weekend KMART has the bagless HOOVER WT for $159. Now having the week's skinny on the big box retailers' sales, keep in mind the sage advice of the vacuum professionals. For $300 plus on a home vacuum at the big box retailers, it behooves the astute shopper to visit one or two of the local independent vacuum cleaner stores. The quality made and performing vacuums are usually found here with the businesses' backing during the life of the vacuum. You can't go wrong. As a poster much smarter than me said: It's your home and a clean home is a healthy home. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 08/20/06 at 1:45pm This week's PARADE again thanks to SEARS has the HOOVER murderer's row product line up featuring the WT 2. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 09/03/06 at 2:42pm Big winner this week is dyson thanks to Target. With a dirth of vacuum cleaner advertised sales probably due to the new school year, Target and dyson pulled out all the vacuum stops. On the front page of the Target Sunday supplement Target has the full dyson upright line and models, save the DC15 Ball. (I believe Target is phasing the DC15 out of the inventory.) Even the new pink DC07 dyson (Very appealing to the female eye and buyer. And real men vacuum with pink vacuums). Of course, all are advertised at MSRP. No mention of the new 5 year warranty. Notta. But....................if you buy this week, you receive a free $100 Target gift card (creative marketing at work) AND if you use the Target REDcard a bonus 500 Target Bonus Reward points. (Remember when you reach 1000 points you get a full 10 percent off a full shopping day at Target. As Target claims: Dyson never loses suction...ever. (Wow, now that's a claim subject to some caveats). As Target says: You deserve Dyson! But don't delayt: This week only. Quantities limited. No rain checks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by tiger21 on 09/04/06 at 1:29pm Giving the $100 gift card may be the way to move old stock out to replace with new since they can't do sale prices on Dyson. After they sell old then maybe they will advertise the 5 year warranty. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 09/04/06 at 1:59pm tiger21 wrote:
Hi El tigre21, please give us your expert opinion on what dyson is and where there heading. We know you have seen a lot in your plus 50 years. O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 09/04/06 at 5:37pm tiger21 wrote:
Hello Tiger21, O/T: HAPPY LABOR DAY Dyson and Target stores are offering the 5 year warranty on all dyson models, including the new DC07 pink special edition for Breast Cancer Research Foundation. The Target Store in North Las Vegas Nevada had the new 5 year warranty cards (no carton stickers) on all the dyson display models before Sept 1, 2006. So did the RC Willey and Costco stores in North Las Vegas. This week only Target stores give away a free $100 Gift Card with the sale of any dyson at the cashier counter. If you buy the dyson with a Target REDcard you get an extra 500 bonus reward points AND 10 percent off all the Target purchases for the entire day. So breaking it down, a new $399 DC07 costs the buyer $$259. (with the $100 Target Gift card and 10 percent off factored in and not adjusting for local sales taxes). Well below dyson MAP. And the DC07 pink model has $40 of the sales price go to the Breast Cancer Research Foundation. Excellent creative sales advertising and marketing by dyson and Target stores. Hard for the independents to compete with this deal especially when you factor in the liberal return/exchange policy by Target stores. This will move dyson vacuums off the Target Store shelves. Target also has the exclusive dyson model DC14 Drive which sells for $459. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 09/10/06 at 8:35pm Retailers are resuming vacuum ads this weekend now that school is back in session. The usual suspects like HOOVER WT 2 and dyson uprights are getting the nod from all the big boxers. But Carmine's kudos go to Lowe's the "Lets Build Something Together" store which now adds the vacuum cord length and weight to advertisements. Did Lowe's see the Consumer Reports video and ratings and decide they liked what they saw? Maybe so. And thanks too for Lowe's who sponsored this week's Football OT show with Howie Long, Brad the QB and the Dallas Miami coachman Jimmy the "Hair Du" Johnson. Here's the Lowe's lineup: The complete Bissell line with the popular Lift Off bagless upright which weighs in at 21.8 pounds and has a 30 foot cord for $169. Tony Danza had Dr. Gadget on his show this week and Dr. G featured the Bissell Lift Off as the vacuum to make housecleaning easier (seems I read a post by Venson about this too) with giveaways to the audience. The dyson DC14 Animal weighs in at 18.58 pounds and sports a 35.4 foot cord for $549. (Check out Kohls this week offering 15 percent off dysons with the Kohls' credit card.) Beats the dyson MAP. If you have a one time extra 15 percent off for the day, a whopping 30 percent off the price. Talk about creative sales and marketing! And for the low low price of $199 the HOOVER WT Self-propelled bagged weighing in at 20 pounds. The tried and true GOLD STANDARD for rug cleaning. Lowest WT price around, thanks to the new HOOVER WT 2's entrance. HOOVER WT, with the embedded dirt finder and fitrette bags, is still the best and quickest rug cleaning upright on ALL rugs and carpets not just the low and normal. Hats off to Lowe's for a great new advertising idea. Let's see the others follow. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 09/17/06 at 8:21pm Several of the major retailers this week are advertising the new HOOVER WT 2 head to head with dyson uprights. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Dyson_Chris on 09/17/06 at 10:25pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Carming, NY Times no sears or parade inserts only BB and almost every week theirs a picture of a Dyson inside. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 09/17/06 at 11:44pm Hello Chris: Too bad, you're missing out on interestsing advertising innuendos. SEARS has HOOVER WT 2 and dyson head to head, so does KOHLS. This is done by a retailers for a reason IMHO. Head on product and brand competition to see the sale results. I saw the BB too. Eureka Altima and dyson DC07. Low end and high end. No product competition. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 09/19/06 at 10:33pm Kohl's plans to run a home sale from Sept 23-30, 2006. Two vacuum brands will be advertised in the mail out catalogue: Bissell and dyson. The dyson models featured will be the DC07 All Floors, DC07 Animal, and DC15 Ball All Floors, and the DC14 Animal. All are advertised at MSRP in the mail catalogue BUT some and/or more Kohl's stores will discount the prices in the stores down from the advertised sales prices in the catalogue. Creative marketing to move the merchandise. And Kohl's will advertise the new dyson 5 year warranty in the mail out catalogue. The first big box retailer to do so. Advertising the warranty to move the merchadise. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 09/22/06 at 8:50am Kohl's just upped the ante. They are blitzing their card holders with a mail out for an additional 15 percent off on all purchases AND if you open a Kohl's charge too you get 15 percent off. Big sale. Trying to move the merchandise. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 09/24/06 at 6:29pm Slim pickens this week for vacuum sales and advertisements. The season TV premiers are getting all the premier space. Big winner is Lowe's. Eureka-lux (thanks to Consumer Reports), HOOVER, Bissell, Eureka Boss Vac and dyson all on sale with cord length, weight and warranty prominently provided. Nice touch. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/01/06 at 8:56pm Big winner this week is the HOOVER Windtunnel, 1 and 2. SEARS and BEST BUY feature HOOVER products and in particular the HOOVER WindTunnel bagged and bagless 1 and 2. One of my favorite HOOVER WindTunnel's is the Supreme and SEARS features it this week for $119 with the turbo tool. That is an excellent price. The only way this deal can be better is with a pack of filtrette bags (Style Y) and/or the 20 foot hose extension. You get a keeper for years that will perform EXCELLENTLY deep cleaning and grooming like no other vacuum ever made and sold. And it will do so on ALL USA carpets, not just the low ones. This WT Supreme model is often demoed by HOOVER and other vacuum retailers to customers with alot of wall to wall carpets, and in particular medium to high pile and plush rugs. Buries the competition in the rug fibers. This HOOVER includes an embedded dirt finder light so you know when the carpets are clean and can move on. Talk about a time and work saver HARDSELL, well as my old friend Sammy D J use to say: This be the one. That saves users time and work AND MONEY. Buy two and/or 3 for less than the leading competitor and gift them away. You'll be a hero. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 10/01/06 at 10:52pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
My WT was self propelled and had the dirt finder. I never found it to be a work saver and I have been a hero in my home ever since I replaced it with the Dyson. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/02/06 at 8:21am Perhaps you were not using the HOOVER WT correctly? The red light means more dirt is detected in the rug and requires more vacuuming and the green light means all dirt is picked up, you can move on. THis is a little tricky for some users because they think the red light means they can "stop" vacuuming. Just the opposite is true. BTW, did you read in the Wall Street Journal the SmartMoney pick for the Best Value in a luxury sedan in 2006? Model and series? And the reason? Hint: It's German made. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 10/02/06 at 8:32pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Yes, Carmine I know hoe to use the lights. Best value does not always relate to best product. Chevy is a better value than any German auto. Owners of German autos rate them highly because they hate to admit to being foolish for buying them. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/03/06 at 8:14am HS: Best Luxury Sedan was rated by the SmartMoney editor of the Wall Street Journal and based on: Features, comfort, OWNERSHIP costs AND fuel economy. Since you probably missed it or don't read the WSJ it is the BMW525i. Do you remember this make and model? And I quote: "While other luxury manufacturers have cut back or eliminated their FREE maintenance programs, BMW's gratis fluid changes and inspections help keep the 525's FIVE year costs surprisingly low. (Remember I mentioned their full service warranty of 4 years/48000 miles on all service and parts free). Combined with strong resale value and stellar handling, it helps to clinch the victory in this category." You may recall my discussions of this make and model under the thread for the 5 year dyson warranty. You impugned my comments as you usually do. If you can't recall, I'll repost the link for you. Although it might be embarrassing for you. I'd say the Wall Street Journal SmartMoney editor is a pretty good source of product recommendations/corroboration. BTW, there is a 4-6-8 week waiting list and time for delivery on these vehicles. Not to fret. You can go on-line and see exactly where the vehicle is and when AFTER the sale. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 10/03/06 at 8:38am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I do not consider WSJ to be an auto expert. Do some research and see what the BMW's are like to own. $500 for headlights which are not covered under warranty is a start. Infinity M35 scores better than the Beemers. I recal most of your 1st predictions, because they have ususally been wrong. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/03/06 at 8:53am HARDSELL wrote:
I do not consider WSJ to be an auto expert. Do some research and see what the BMW's are like to own. $500 for headlights which are not covered under warranty is a start. Infinity M35 scores better than the Beemers. I recal most of your 1st predictions, because they have ususally been wrong. [/quote] Did you read the WSJ article? The Infiniti G35 gets an honorable mention for 2007 due to the luxurious revamp and 20 plus HP boost ($31,450). Not bad information and commentary for a non-auto expert. ;D And the BMW 5251 headlights are covered for 4 years and/or 48000 miles. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 10/03/06 at 9:02pm Read about real world experience with the beemers Carmine. Dealers will do all possible to find a reason not to honor a warranty. WSJ reports on a few hours use with an auto, not months or years. Are you also an auto expert? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/03/06 at 10:49pm HARDSELL: You didn't answer my question: Did you read the WSJ SmartMoney article on best values for 2006 vehicles? Do you ever read the regular weekly columns on automobiles in the Wall Street Journal? If you do, you know that the SmartMoney editor of the Wall Street Journal recently had a article recommending previously owned Toyotas as a better buy than new ones. Would you agree? Do you think this is an opinion of an expert? The same editor selects the BWM 525i as the best buy in the luxury sedan category due to the lower ownership costs over the first 5 years BECAUSE OF THE BMW WARRANTY. You impugned my opinions about BMW because I expressed them. Now that my opinions are corroborated by the SmartMoney editor of the WSJ, you are trying to impugn the WSJ. Most readers would use the WSJ as an authoritative source for auto info. I doubt that the WSJ hires amatuers to write columns on cars. I read the Wall Street Journal. I like the WSJ. Especially the auto columns. Real life information about cars and their warranties that you can use and profit from, like the BMW 525i and previously owned Toyotas. The only drawback is that it doesn't have the daily "funnies." Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 10/04/06 at 10:12pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
One of your favorite publications rates this way: MOST RELIABLE: SEDANS: Lexus GS300/GS430*, Infiniti M35/45*, Lexus IS300 (2005), Honda Accord Hybrid*, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord 4-cyl., Lexus LS430 LEAST RELIABLE: SEDANS: Jaguar S-Type, Lincoln LS, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Saab 9-3, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, BMW 5-Series (V8), Audi A8, Chrysler 300 (V8)*, BMW 7 series Lexus and Toyota lead the way in quality after 90 days of ownership. How long does WSJ drive a car before reporting? Real life information relates to more than a test drive. Convince me only after testing more than one vehicle. Take it to a dealer and report on how the service (repair) was handled. You presented the opinion of 1 publication and I gave another's. 2 reports, 2 different opinons. Which is correct? The price increases on the BMW's reflect the added warranty. How much does it cost to service an auto for 50,000 miles? 10 oil changes and oil filters = $300 or less. Air filters $35 or less. Wiper blades $50 max. These are the only maintenance items that should be necessary in 50,000 miles. These same services at a BMW dealer would be 5 to 10 times more expensive. The 525 may be a value at it's price point but it still is not a real value for me. It is a known fact ( of the buying public ) that used Toyota's are excellent values. It is also a known fact that BMW's are very problem prone and not as valued for quality on the used market. This without the opinions of a variety reporter. Perhaps the BMW warranty will give a perception of better quality. I pity the owners after the honeymoon (warranty) has expired. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/05/06 at 8:18am HS: Much better Forum commentary than personal impugning and attacking. Can you do the same with your vacuum opinions, when you have them? I note your last statement about the BMW warranty: "Perhaps the BMW warranty will give a perception of better quality. " I recall an astute Forum poster making the EXACT same statement early on about the extended 5 year dyson warranty. Which? rated dyson the least reliable of all vacuums, both uprights and cylinders, for 7 consecutive years. The dyson extended warranty gives the perception of ameliorating that fact and condition. Seems consumer opinions on extended warranty and coverage crosses product lines and brands AND countries. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/08/06 at 9:11pm The usual array of vacuum cleaner sales, nothing special BUT............. Check out the Sunday Circuit City supplement and in particular: http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/categorylist.do?N=20013161+20013881&catOid=-13881&c=1&cm_re=main%20marquee-_-Floor%20care-_-All%20vacuum%20cleaners Several months ago Jim the Old Time Pro alerted us to the fact that portable vacuums would be added back to the CC venue to increase store traffic. And the time has come. And it is the only retailer this week to advertise the dyson 5 year warranty. Kohls, TARGET, BEST BUY, Linen-N-Things are all silent on the dyson warranty. Speaking of Linen N Things, dyson gets the 20 percent off coupon AND a $100 gift card up through October 22, 2006. Any single vacuum purchase over $229 gets the $100 and 20 percent off. As I pointed out on another thread, KOHL's has the Blue Infinity Euro-pro bagless for $199.99 PLUS an additional 5, 10, 15, and 20 percent off sticker from the mail out catalogue. SEARS has an ad for the Dirt Devil Featherlight for $39.95. Interesting it is not part of the vacuum cleaner ads but part of the specials. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/15/06 at 8:02pm David Oreck has a full page ad in the USA Weekend for the XL Ultra. The consumate marketeer has a new twist. Not only the giveaways but NO INTEREST AND PAYMENTS for one full year but check out the fine print for the effective interest rate. Bagless upright vacuums are the big feature this weekend by the bib box retailers. BEST BUY adds the Euro-Pro Infinity uprights, both models, to its sales venue boasting 24 cyclones for constant cleaning power. Circuit City is back in the vacuum sales business with this week's features for Bissell and HOOVER uprights including the HOOVER WT 2 Extra Reach with extra hose and floor brush for $299. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/22/06 at 10:18pm Not much in the way of vacuum cleaner sales and advertisements. BEST BUY has NO vacuum for sale this week. Notta. And the PARADE and USA Weekend have nothing too. Circuit City has its 3 main players: HOOVER, dyson and BISSELL. But just the DC07 models, HOOVER WT (1) bagless, and Cleanview. No new models. Target likewise: DC07 All Floors $399 and instant $20 in store cash back; HOOVER WT 2 for $299 and $30 Target Gift Card and the Savvy for $199. Lowe's features an array of SHOP VACs. Must be FALL Cleanup time. But unlike other vacuums, only details the cord length and HP, no weight information. David Oreck opted to advertise in the main section of the Las Vegas Sunday newspaper. Nice size ad with the XL21, 21 year warranty, 21 free yearly tuneups, free 30 day trial, and the usual giveaways. And of course a listing of all the local Oreck dealers. Have to pay them a visit. Slim pickens. Must be gearing up for the Veteran's Day sales and pre 2006 Holiday sales. Have to wait until next week. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by VacOMatic on 10/23/06 at 1:17am Is probably old news but Our BestBuy is now endcapping the Shark Infinity cyclone upright; Price if I remember right is somewhere around $129 (only looked briefly as new Dyson DC17 took my attention away - posted observations in DC17 topic). Lots of Hoover Windtunnel 2 and Dysons on the shelves there. No special sales noted. VAX is long gone. Hoover Elite still going strong. Only cannister was a small Orange Hoover. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Mike_W. on 10/23/06 at 2:27am The Infinitys are not $129, but $199.99 and $249.99. They are too new for the price to decrease. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/23/06 at 8:05am I like the Shark Infinity bagless uprights better than the VAX uprights. EP Shark Infinity filters better, better USA rug oriented brush roll (tufts could be longer and wider like the VAX), hose and attachment usage is better and quicker, AND rug height adjustments on the Shark. Plus the filters (3 includng HEPA) are ALL washable and lifetime and don't need constant maintenance (months and years vice usages). Actually 4 counting the filter over the motor and before the HEPA. $199 and $249 are good prices for the Infinty cleaners. BEST BUY is a good venue for the Infinity. So is Kohls. Target hasn't added yet and the same for Wal*Mart. If Wal*Mart adds the Infinity upright (s) to its sales venue then sales will sky rocket. Even at $199-$249. More than likely Wal*Mart would reduce the prices a tad from those levels. They would sell. Even independent vacuum cleaner stores MAY add the Infinity uprights to its venue just as an accomodation to their clientele who specifically ask for bagless uprights but who don't want to spend the $400 plus for a dyson. I would. With the after purchase parts support by Euro-Pro, independent vacuum stores would be more likely to carry and sell the brand especially at the $199-$249. There is a profit margin built into the sales price. I'm surprised about the differences in the size and shape of the 24 cyclones in the Infinity. The 24 cyclones in the Infinity are much smaller than the dyson (and lighter). The Infinity cyclones are washable unlike the dyson which forbids water in the root technology chamber. Infinity comes with a port in the cyclone housing for washing and drying. Nice touch. With all the Infinity bin parts easily removable and washable, the Infinity will maintain its "look likes new" if users are conscientious. With a HEPA filter that only needs cleaning and washing every 3-4 years, keeping the 24 cyclones clean and new is a plus for the vacuum for users who want longevity. A feature (longevity) not known for Euro-Pro Shark vacuums up to now. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 10/23/06 at 9:24pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
You have previously claimed that a washable filter will not last a life time. Why the sudden change of mind? I believe you also claimed that VAX would unseat Dyson due in part to it's lower price. Vax is gone and Dyson (high priced as it is) remains a top seller. The low priced Fusion was not good enough to keep Dyson away from Wal Mart. Why is the Infinity suddenly going to win? Is it because it does not start with D and in with n? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/23/06 at 10:36pm Infinity upright sales WILL hurt dyson sales and other vacuum sales at BEST BUY just as VAX sales did. VAX uprights were only sold through Best Buy and SEARS stores. Very limited sales venue. And probably the reason they folded. Competition reduces brand sales of any product. Especially like "quality" competition at less than half the price. So will Infinity sales at Kohl's. And Target and Wal*Mart if these stores take on the Infinity line. And they probably will in short order. And vacuum stores which will be more likely now than before to carry the Infinity uprights. The HEPA filter in the Euro-Pro Shark Infinity has to be cleaned every 3-5 YEARS (not months) by tapping clean AND washing if desired by the user. Washing of the HEPA is optional not necessary. Euro-Pro Infinity also comes with 2 extra filters (and belts). One spare filter for each of the other 2 non HEPA filters on the Infinity. Having spare filters increases the useful life at least by a factor of 2. That may or may not be a lifetime depending on how you define lifetime. Speaking of Wal*Mart, the stock was the most active on the NYSE today and closed up $1.50 to $51+ a share. Wal*Mart reported its earnings today, better than the street, and announced plans to cut back on future store expansions. This strategic move follows the same strategy that MacDonald's followed in 2003 when MacDonalds stock was languishing for many years. Since that time, MacDonald's stock doubled in price and raised its stock dividend several times. Wal*Mart will probably do the same. BTW Wal*Mart has 4000 stores in the USA and 2500 more overseas. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 10/24/06 at 10:08pm I had no idea that Dyson would boost Wal Mart so much. That is amazing. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 10/29/06 at 8:48pm A dirth of vacuum cleaner ads this weekend. Most retailers are pre-occupied with All Hallow's Eve rather than vacuums. Even Circuit City which has been active in vacuum cleaner ads since adding vacuums to its sales venue is absent. So is SEARS, Kohl's, the PARADE, and USA Weekend Magazine. Notta. The brand winners at Target and BEST BUY are BISSELL and dyson. BEST BUY even has a BISSELL exclusive: The bagless Momentum previously mentioned on the Forum for ONLY $119. Dyson's DC07 Animal gets the nod at Target and BEST BUY for $499 but Target has the edge with a $50 GiftCard. HOOVER aired for one hour on the HSN over the weekend under the feature "HOOVER INNOVATIONS." For sale were the Floormate and the HOOVER WT2 bagless: Two of HOOVER's murderer's row product line. No shipping and handling. And a return policy that allows returns well after the Christmas Holiday, just in case the gift receiver didn't want it. HSN mentioned that several hundreds of thousands of FloorMates had been sold on the HSN. Selling prices were $149 for the FM and $319 for the WT2 bagless. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/05/06 at 8:53pm Vacuum sales advertisements are filtering back into the newsprint this weekend with some notables. BEST BUY has ONLY ONE vacuum for sale in its Sunday supplement: the DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. No other specials. The pic is so small the new dyson vacuum looks just like the old DC14. With all that advertising paper, you'd think BB would blow up the new dyson and give it some pizzazz. Nay nay. Have to read the fine print to even know its a new dyson model. The new greater dyson? Not from this picayune ad. The Sunday PARADE has a full pager for HOOVER and two of its 3 Murderers' Row product line: The HOOVER Floormate and the HOOVER WT 2 bagless. And a really nice kicker.........if you purchase both by January 7, 2007, you get a $100 rebate at participating retailers. It's about time HOOVER offers the combo special purchases. Quite frankly I was expecting this buyers' incentive last Holiday season and HOOVER let me down (probably the merger and buyout with Whirlpool to blame). Glad to see HOOVER saw the light this Holiday season. Some minor mentionables: Circuit City with their customary HOOVER, dyson, BISSELL products. Nothing new. Same old same old. DC07 Animal $499 before a 10 percent in store savings. DC07 All Floors $399 (before 10 percent in store discount). DC14 $429 before the 10 percent off. HOOVER WT bagless $159 before the 10 percent off, WT2 Extra Reach $299 before the 10 percent off and the BISSELL Clean View bagless and Lift Off bagless at the MSRP of $99 and $169 before the 10 percent off. Plus the Proheat 2X for $249 before the 10 percent off. This is the one that actually heats the water about 25 degrees hotter. Linens N Things has the dyson DC07 for $399 and DC14 Animal for $549 BEFORE a 20 percent discount coupon off. IRobot also gets a play with the Scooba wet floor for $299 and Roomba Discovery for $279 BEFORE the 20 percent off. The Scooba's original MSRP was $599. What a difference poor sales make for a publicly held company. Sell or perish. And LNT even has the Exclusive Shark bagless (Green) for $149, the Green Sweeper for $29 and the 2 in 1 stick and hand for $59 BEFORE the 20 percent off. Plus the Green Shark upright comes with a $30 hand hand. Looks like LNT is making room for the new E-P Infinity Uprights for the Holidays. It shaping up to be a good Holiday sales season for vacuum cleaners. Lots of new vacuum offings in the big box stores, cept for the dyson canister. Still MIA. It's been a long time in coming and still not here yet. That's all for this week folks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/06/06 at 8:42am Well, so much for: "That's all folks." My dear Wife and daughter pointed out to me that the main section of the Sunday newsprint in LV has a Bed Bath & Beyond discount coupon good for 20 percent off on ANY item through Nov 13, 2006. But look at the fine print. Excluded are ORECK and MIELE. Valid for in-store use only. And as my two lovely ladies reminded me BB&B WILL MATCH any competitor's price. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/07/06 at 10:12am Source: Wall Street Journal Monday Nov 6, 2006 Wal*Mart Stores Inc. Discounting Increases With Cuts on Consumer Electronic Items "Wal*Mart Stores Inc stepped up its discounting ahead of the holiday season with price cuts on almost 100 electronics that focused on high definition TVs, cellphones and digital cameras. The news came after the Bentonville, Ark., retailer announced disappointing October sales and a lackluster November outlook. The discounts are effective through Dec 31. They include such items as Panasonic 42 inch HD plasma TVs, cut to $1294 from $1794; Polaroid LCD HDTVs, reduced to $997 from $1297; and Cingular C139 prepaid phones, marked down to $19.97 from $29.98. The discounts on electronics follow Wal*Mart's move in mid-October to cut prices on more than 100 holiday toys, which the company said is already resulting in a "significant lift in unit volume." The move seemed likely to be more bad news for electronics rivals such as BEST BUY Co. and Circuit City stores Inc. Analysts predict slower sales growth this year for the consumer-electronics industry as prices of items such as flat panel TV sets drop." PS added by poster: Unlike most retailers, BEST BUY, Circuit City and Home Depot are among the large retailers who do not post monthly sales data. These companies post quarterly sales info only. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 11/07/06 at 10:31am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Wal mart is not the leader in reduction of electornics pricing. All electronics prices drop drastically this time of year. New models will be introduced in the coming weeks and old inventory must go. I was offered a 56" HDTV for $1600 on Sunday. Retail is $3800. Wal Mart focuses on entry level TV's also. The Panasonic that you are referring to is $1200 at one of the leading audio/video stores. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/07/06 at 7:10pm HS: If I may ask, and feel free not to say if you prefer, which retailer offered to sell a 56 (inch?) HDTV for $1600, what was the brand and was it new in a box and/or floor model? I assume that the $1600 price on the HDTV does not include installation and/or extended warranty. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 11/07/06 at 8:46pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Tweeter was the store. Toshiba DLP TV. It is a new TV transfered to my local store from NC. It was removed from the box about a week ago for display with other close out items. They can sell items for less if removed from the box. I was at the same store yesterday and it was not turned on. This is the best time of year to buy electronics. Price is for TV only. Warranty is $300 (3 yrs) or $500 (5 yrs). Five year warranty covers bulbs. Delivery is usually $50. I would perform installation even if the offered it for free. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/07/06 at 11:03pm 56 inch? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 11/08/06 at 6:56am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
The model # is 56MX195 if you are in doubt. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/08/06 at 8:02am 56 inch is an odd size for HDTV. It's not a standard size for the industry today. My 50 inch installation was a little tricky because it came with a DVR. The connections were done wrong by the retailer's installer AND the cable technician on the first go around. I have an LG plasma HD (which the Pulte builder is now gifting with the purchase of these houses) and it is wonderful. I'll never go back to the other. BTW if you install yourself, truly yourself, and not a recognized expert, the retailer and/or maker MAY NOT warranty. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 11/08/06 at 9:36pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Where are you getting your info? 56" is not uncommon for a DLP set. Samsung Panasonic, RCA and Toshiba offer 56" models. Installing a cable DVR is very simple. I have cable and satellite. I chose to install the satellite because I know of too many installations like you experienced. Is it too late to exchange the LG for a Panasonic? Plasmsa is nice for aesthetics but for picture quality I would choose DLP or SXRD technology. Self install has no effect on warranty. Recognized experts are the same in all fields. Many are no more knowledgable that the home owner. Just because you earn a living performing a job does not make you an expert. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/08/06 at 11:09pm So you wouldn't buy the 56 inch Toshiba for $1600? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 11/09/06 at 6:54am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I sent you a PM. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/10/06 at 12:03pm HS: After I messaged you this morning I learned from newsreports that the products disclosed in the WSJ article I quoted were "leaked" prematurely according to Wal*Mart sources. These items were supposed to be part of Wal*Mart's black Friday (day after Thanksgiving) sale and not before. I verified that information with recent Wal*Mart sales catalogues and mailings. These items are not included for sale between Nov 12-19. Interesting? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 11/10/06 at 9:35pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I answered your pm prior to reading this. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/13/06 at 12:21am It's weekly vacuum cleaner sales time and BEST BUY featured the ALL new BISSELL Healthy Home bagless on a quarter page ad. Added to the usual cyclonic suction adjectives, like non-stop suction and removes dirt and allergens from ALL surfaces, is a new bite: "Helps purify the air while you vacuum" while Microban Antimicrobial Protection and AirTight HEPA filtration help keep indoor air fresher and cleaner. $299 Dyson's DC16 gets an honorable mention with a "NEW" moniker for $149. Also sale priced is the BISSELL ProHeat 2x for $199. This is the rug cleaner that does heat the water 25 degrees hotter. With HOOVER offering the $100 savings on two floorcare purchases now through January 2007 at partcipating retailers (see the HOOVER website), maybe BISSELL will do the same? Both SEARS and Target stores feature the DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. Just like the BEST BUY ad from last week, this new dyson (aka the greater dyson) looks like the same old DC14 for $459. Will customers be confused? The ads don't help. DC14 and DC17 sound and look the same. Dyson: Here's a bit of marketing advice: If you wanna sell the DC17 Absolute you gotta tell people why the DC17 is worth the additional $90 over the DC14. If not, they ain't gonna know. Target adds the DC16 too. And SEARS the Roomba Scheduler for $299. SEARS also features its "Progressive canister for $379 with the advice: Consider a canister. Why not? SEARS sells over 25 percent of the new canisters sold each year. And this one boys and girls has a HEPA cloth bag for true HEPA filtration. And let's not leave out Bed Bath and Beyond with 20 percent off any item thru Dec 4, 2006. BUT NOT ORECK. And speaking of ORECK, Mr. Dave Oreck, the most recognized face of vacuum cleaners, has his own ad in the Sunday coupon section. But a full pager including the svelte looking octogenarian and his famous 8 pound vacuum cleaner. The old-timers and me were just saying that like your vacuum you haven't aged much in over 40 years. It must be the clean living. God Bless you. Circuit City is still selling the same old same old. Dyson DC07 All Floors and Animal for $399 and $499 PLUS a $50 Gift Card with purchase. Trying hard to cull the old dyson stock. Same with the HOOVER WT bagless for $159 before a $25 Gift Card and BISSELL ProHeat for $249 plus a $25 Gift Card. Linens 'N THings also has the old dyson stock on sale: DC07 Animal for $499 and DC15 Ball All Floors for $499 BEFORE the 20 percent off. Will these old first and second generation dyson models ever make room for the new third generation DC17? I sure hope so. Also on sale is the Roomba Scheduler for $329 before the 20 percent off. That's all folks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 11/13/06 at 9:32pm If ol Dave cut is advertising budget by 50% and stopped giving free gifts just to make a sale he could sell his $99 for $99. Of course I still would not want one. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/13/06 at 9:48pm Hey Hardsell: Old Dave as you call him is a business role model for dyson. I hear tell that James and dyson is the David ORECK of the 21st Century. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 11/14/06 at 11:35pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Could be. The old days are gone. Dave and Oreck have a lot in common. They both spew hot air . |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/15/06 at 7:48am Well HS, the old days are gone (unfortunately) but their are some people still around who remember these days. These persons know that the old days provided almost 45 years of business success in the USA vacuum market to David Oreck and his 8 pound upright. AND Oreck carved out a niche vacuum market for lightweight vacuums that provide full sized vacuum performance. AND Oreck maintained this stronghold on the market all this time and still, despite the competition. Anyone that demeans this accomplishment and impugns the company not only doesn't know their vacuum history but is also "full of hot air." ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 11/16/06 at 6:31am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I watched Ole Dave's infomercial about 5 am today. Among other things he compared Oreck to bagless. He shows a DCO7 in use then shows a bagless bin being emptied. It actually looks like an open top plastic container and dust fills the air. The bin is definitely not off a DC07. I have no problem with honest comparisons. I do have a problem with deceptive advertising. Of course he is famous for deceipt. He further states that the XL21 will clean as good for decades as it does when new. I believe this since it does only a mediocre job when new. I bet Dave's ancestors sold snake oil on the prarie. Some accomplishments should not be glorified, no matter how historical. BTW, the new Oreck factory in TN is only a short drive away. Maybe I should vist them to see how they get the smole and mirrors in those vacs. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/16/06 at 7:41am Hey HS: Glorify? No. Respect? Yes. He's earned it. I watched the dyson video several months ago. It had little to no dirt in the bin when it was dumped. The user slowly allowed the dirt to cascade down the bin into the waste basket. As soon as a dust cloud appeared, the video panned away. I guarantee you that if you visit the Oreck factory in Tennessee you will be uplifted by the pride of the Oreck workers and the love for their jobs. AND their respect and admiration for Dave, not just as a business man and their employer but as a person. Guarantee. There's alot of positive things about a home grown product. Americans today are so globally focused that we forget this. Many don't even care anymore. Ah, the good old days. If I knew they wouldn't last forever, I would have tried to remember harder. :'( Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by planethoover on 11/16/06 at 12:28pm I gave my Oreck to my mom, who is seventy-eight, LOVES her independence, and has crippling arthritis, when she got new carpets installed in September. This lightweight vacuum enables her to vacuum with something more substantial than a stick vac. She is utterly unimpressed with cyclones and filters, and values its light weight and relative simplicity to almost everything else out there (she took one look at my beloved new Iridium and rolled her eyes!) What I'm saying is, as much of a huckster as Mr. Oreck can be, he DOES fill an important niche in the market, with a product that is simply not as bad as some people here make it out to be. I also have to mention, I was somewhat impressed with his demonstration of corporate responsibility during and after the New Orleans catastrophe. If more business owners would even attempt to behave themselves in a similar manner, whether the reasons were ultimately a PR bonanza or not, we as a country and as an industrial power would be in a hell of a better situation than we are now. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/17/06 at 9:28am David Oreck continued to pay ALL Oreck employees displaced from their homes and jobs by Hurricane Katrina their normal salaries and benefits all during the time the Oreck plant and headquarters building were shuttered. Oreck was also one of the first if not the first vacuum company to market and sell a "pink" Oreck to support the Komen Cancer Foundation for breast cancer research. With a guaranteed donation of $250,000 regardless of the pink product sales. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/19/06 at 8:38pm There's a real dirth of vacuum cleaner ads this week probably due to the Thanksgiving Holiday. I'm not sure any brand wins the kudos save IRobot which gets the nod at Circuit City and BEST BUY. CC has the Rhoomba Red for $149 and Discovery model for $249. Dyson DC07 All Floors and DC07 Animal for $399 and $499. I'll be happy to see these first generation dysons gone forever once and for all. BISSELL Lift-Off and HOOVER Savvy on sale too. BEST BUY has the Electrolux Pronto and IRobot Discovery for $99 and $279 respectively. But wait, not to be outdone by CC, BB offers a $25 Instant Gift Card on the IRobot. SEARS has the dyson DC14 Drive for $479, and the usual array of floorcare products: Kenmore Progressive bagged canister for $249, EUREKA Super BOSS bagless for $39, Kenmore bagless upright for $69, HOOVER Steam Vac $179 and BISSELL Proheat 2X for $249. HOME DEPOT is offering 10 percent off on all appliances over $297 now until November 22. Low and behold the DC14 ALL Floors for $429 before the 10 percent off. POLEEZE tell me why a dyson buyer would buy a DC07 Original at Wal*Mart for $378 with a 2 year warranty when a DC14 with a 5 year warranty can be purchased at $387. Please say dyson and Wal*Mart are not that stupid that they think they can fool dyson buyers. It ain't gonna work. Dyson, bite the bullet, do the right thing and extend the warranty on the DC07 Original so there is dyson warranty parity on all your uprights. It's the right thing to do. If not, Wal*Mart will have a ton of pretty unsold boxed and returned dysons. And Wal*Mart ain't gonna eat these dysons after the Holidays. Dyson will have to take them back, agree to a lower sales price, and/or find another retailer to unload them on and bail them out. Kinda hard for the latter with a Wal*Mart dyson exclusive model. Maybe Sam's Club? Also, HD has the Maytag (HOOVER) legacy series canister vacuum and Carpet cleaner on sale for $139 and $239 respectively. That's all folks.................not quite! Saving the best for last! Mr. Dave "The Original Vacuum Man" Oreck has a quarter page ad in the main section of the Las Vegas newspapers. Not just any ad. No, not Dave the consumate vacuum salesman. Standing in a winter wonderland, Mr. Vacuum Man Dave has one foot on a sleigh, a holly wreath in his hand and Santa hat adorning his head. With the locations of the two Oreck stores in Las Vegas and Henderson Nevada the XL Classic Upright is offered for $299 WITH the Compact canister and Electrikbroom FREE. What a guy! 80 something and still going strong. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 11/20/06 at 9:08am Hey Carmine, Can you post a link or point out who is selling Dyson DC 14's for $387. That would be an awesome deal. Is it perhaps someone closing out their DC 14 animals? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/20/06 at 10:35am Hello JimB: Yes I will. I mentioned in my post it is the weekly HOME DEPOT advertisement now through Nov 22. The $387 is for the DC14 All Floors AFTER the 10 percent discount for all appliances (over $297) including floorcare through Nov 22, 2006. Hope all is well. http://homedepot.shoplocal.com/homedepot/default.aspx?action=entry&pretailerid=-99839&siteid=188&adref=homepageleftnav&freeship=true&domJsFile=finddom_ext_v4_7.js&styleSheet=hdstyle_ext_v4_10.css&hdJsFile=hd_ext_v4_87.js&locJsFile=locator_ext_v4_3.js&pos=p14&storeid=2398617 Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 11/20/06 at 10:49am Hmmm... Great deal, especially when you factor in the 6 month interest free financing. I hadn't seen that one. Only good through Wednesday though. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/20/06 at 1:08pm JimB: Agree. The start date was Nov 19 appearing in the daily newspaper. The DC14 is a second generation dyson, not even first. The dyson DC07 All Floors (first generation) for $399 comes with a 5 YEAR WARRANTY. The Wal*Mart DC07 Original for $378 comes WITH A 2 YEAR WARRANTY. The DC07 All Floors has been selling recently (see my previous posts) with 20 percent off at retailers like LNT and BB&B so the price after discount is $319. With a 5 year Warranty. Wal*Mart will not sell many exclusive dyson DC07 Original models for $378 with a 2 year warranty. This leaves two options: Dyson extends the warranty on the DC07 Original at Wal*Mart to 5 years and/or Wal*Mart lowers the price.............substantially. With the past trials and tribulations between dyson and Wal*Mart on the DC07 All Carpets and All Floors, what do you think will be done? BTW Capital One VISA card offers a free dyson DC14 All Floors for 46000 miles as part of its Fall 2006 Rewards. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/22/06 at 9:35am I stand corrected. The HOME DEPT sale on appliances commenced Nov 16 and runs through today Nov 22. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/23/06 at 8:34am For Thanks Giving Day purchases in November and December, sales of Samsung appliances at retailers like BEST BUY and CompUSA have added benefits. Visit the website below. http://www.4seasonsofhope.com/4seasons_hope/content.html And to find out more about the hospital, visit www.arnoldpalmerhospital.org. During November and December when you purchase selected Samsung products at retailers like BEST BUY and CompUSA stores, a portion will be given back to the Arnold Palmer Hospital. Or you can donate at the registers. Ask when you buy. "Because a little help can make a big difference." On Thanksgiving, give thanks for your blessings and give to those who need. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/26/06 at 8:07pm Big week for vacuum sales at the big box retailers. Just about all the stores are advertising their floorcare products on sale and will continue right up through and after the new year. Let's start with the PARADE: The full page ad features the teal Euro-Pro Infinity by Shark. No price. But we know from the retailers' sales this week that this model regularly sells at TARGET, KOHLS, Linens N Things, and Bed Bath and Beyond for $199 to $219. The ad is very well done and it obviously is geared to compete with the dyson using the identical verbage which dyson made famous: NEVER LOSES SUCTION. But it does one better: THE ONLY VACUUM WITH 24 CYCLONES. That's a blow below the belt to James Dyson as the inventor of the cyclone suction technology. TARGET has the teal Infinity on sale this week with the "NEW AT TARGET" designation for $199. Also the BISSELL HEALTHY HOME carries the same designation: NEW AT TARGET with a $299 price tag. And the dyson first generation DC07 Animal for $499 before a $50 TARGET GIFTCARD. Not a very good price when you see what the other retailers are offering to cull their supply of first and second generation dysons. For example, Linens and Things is selling the DC07 Animal for $499 and DC15 Ball All Floors for $499 BUT WAIT, don't forget the 20 percent off coupon bringing the DC07 Animal down to $399. Now tell me again how Wal*Mart will sell the DC07 Original with a 2 YEAR WARRANTY for $378 when the DC07 ANIMAL with a 5 Year WARRANTY sells for $399. Wal*Mart has to be fuming with dyson over the unsold DC07 Originals gathering dust on the shelves. Also on sale by LNT is the Roomba Scheduler for $329 before the 20 percent off coupon. Circuit City joins the dyson first and second generation sales with the DC07 All Floors for $399, the DC14 All Floors for $429, and the DC07 Animal for $499. Wait, there's more: A 10 percent savings on all floorcare so reduce the dysons to $360, $387, and $450 respectively. So let's see, the DC14 with a 5 YEAR WARRANTY is $387 and the DC07 at Wal*Mart with a 2 YEAR WARRANTY is $378. Which one is the better dyson deal. Dah? Does anyone else see a battle brewing again between Wal*Mart and dyson over the price and warranty on the DC07 Original. $378 for a first generation dyson with a first generation dyson warranty of 2 YEARS is trouble for Wal*Mart with a capital "T." I see unsold dysons on the Wal*Mart shelves after Christmas with no buyers UNLESS something drastic happens quickly like right away to drop the price of dysons at Wal*Mart and/or extend the WARRANTY to 5 YEARS and/or both. CC also has the HOOVER and BISSELL upright floorcare products on sale with the 10 percent off. Including the latest WT 2 bagless Extra Reach for $299 less 10 percent or $279 which includes the extra reach hose and large bare floor tool. And the BISSELL ProHeat 2X for $249 before the 10 percent off. BEST BUY has the dyson DC07 Animal for $499 and the new dyson DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. Sorry folks no dyson deals. Even the DCRoot 6 Hand Held for $149 doesn't get a deal with it. HARD TO BELIEVE. The retailer that talked James into the US vacuum market is letting the other retailers out do them on the dyson deals. What can this mean? But don't fret. BEST BUY is offering a $70 GIFT CARD with the combined purchases of the HOOVER Floormate for $129 and the HOOVER WT 2 bagless Surface Command with electronic carpet height adjustment for $305. BEST BUY isn't the only retailer offering the combo savings on HOOVER. Kohls, SEARS, TARGET, and a plethora of other big box retailers including HOOVER factory stores are offering $50 to $100 off on the purchases of Floormates and WT 2 models through January 8, 2007. Excellent marketing deal IMHO. And finally SEARS with its usual array of Kenmore products AND the BISSELL HEALTHY HOME for $299, dyson DC17 Absolute Animal $549 and BISSELL Pro Heat 2X for $249. Sorry no deals. That's it folks. It looks like the big box retailers are getting their wheels in motion for a big time blast of Christmas vacuum cleaner sales. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by VacOMatic on 11/28/06 at 10:52am We also have Cyber Monday sales events influenceing holiday shopping, but I do not have access to any Internet database that can list Web-based vacuum sales. If one knows/discovers one, and it's available for viewing, it would be fun to read. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/28/06 at 7:25pm Wal*Mart reported its worse November same store sales in 10 years dragging the dow down yesterday 158 points, the worse triple digit decline since July. Wal*Mart's December sales will be more telling. Of course more than new vacuums go into the sales equation but new vacuum sales at COSTCO, TARGET, and KOHL'S stores based on my personal and professional observations are outpacing new vacuum sales at Wal*Mart stores. And with good reasons which I won't elaborate on now and here. It is amazing that with 70 percent of all US residents within 5 miles and 90 percent with 15 miles of a Wal*Mart store that the sales, not just new vacuums, have been flat. But that's another discussion for another time. BTW, in 2005 cyber Monday (the first Monday after Thanksgiving) was not the best internet sales day of the Holiday season. It was Monday December 12. This year it will probably be later than December 12 due to the special incentives and bargains offered over the web close to the Christmas Holiday. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 11/28/06 at 8:52pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Those other stores generally sell higher quality merchandise. They also do a better job with vacs, especially the Dysons. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/29/06 at 7:40am HARDSELL: I agree with both your statements, in part. In the latter the question is "why?" Why do the other retailers sell dysons better than Wal*Mart? For the time being, let's ignore other brands and focus on dyson vacuums. Dyson has had an ongoing battle with the sale of its vacuums at Wal*Mart stores. Wal*Mart picked up the brand as part of its efforts to attract and appeal to higher income customers with trendier more expensive merchandise. What are the results with dyson vacuums? In the spring 2004, dyson launched the DC07 All Carpets exclusively in Wal*Mart stores for $349 with a 2 YEAR WARRANTY. All dysons came with a 2 year warranty. Sales were horrendous and many were returned and some still sit on store shelves for sale in boxes that have been repacked several times. By all accounts the DC07 All Carpets was a good dyson model. If it were still available in September 2006, I would have purchased it rather than the DC07 pink. I think the DC07 All Carpets would have worked on my wool carpets. The DC07 pink did not because of the brushbar clutch. Wal*Mart dropped the exclusive All Carpet model and opted to sell the DC07 All Floors at the going prices MSRP of $399. A problem arose when Wal*Mart "rolled back" the DC07 All Floors price to $349. The rest is a matter for debate but we know by January 2005, dyson was out completely of the Wal*Mart stores. And dyson had to take back a boat load of DC07 All Floors which Wal*Mart refused to eat at $399. Many of these got dumped on BEST BUY stores to sell at unadvertised in store discounts. Other vacuums including the sourced HOOVER FUSION (launched exclusively at Wal*Mart stores in June 2005 and still there with a special model for Sam's Clubs) sold and still sell well at Wal*Mart stores in the price range of $90 to $118. Dyson and Wal*Mart stores kiss and make up and another exclusive model the DC07 Original is launched for sale for $378 in the Fall of 2006. It appears in only limited Wal*Mart stores like the Super Centers but along with a plethora of other dysons is on the Wal*Mart web site. (Which BTW was down for the better part of Black Friday). But wait: Now all the new dysons come with a 5 year warranty as of August 14, 2006. Except 2: the DC16 hand held for $149 and the DC07 Original exclusive model at Wal*Mart. The latter 2 dysons, including the Wal*Mart exclusive, have a 2 year warranty. I can understand the DC16, but the DC07? 2 Years? Why? All major retailers EXCEPT WAL*MART stores are allowed to discount dyson DC07, DC14, and DC15 models including the Animal models at prices substantially lower than MSRP. Some as much as 20 percent from MSRP. We even have a case on the Forum where a BEST BUY store sold a DC17 Absolute Animal (the top of the dyson line recently launched by dyson for $549) for $404 as a display model with no box. But not Wal*Mart. What are the Wal*Mart dyson prices? Same as they were 4 years ago and with a 2 year warranty on the first generation DC07 model. Why? Vacuum customers aren't stupid. They won't buy a dyson vacuum from Wal*Mart. And if they do in error make a dyson purchase, as soon as they see that they purchased the only dyson upright with a 2 year warranty for FULL PRICE, they will return it. Maybe they will buy another dyson at another retailer, maybe not. Retailers advertise the new dysons with the 5 year warranty. And customers will know as soon as they go to the dyson web site to register for the warranty. Dyson's product pricing and warranty are "killing" dyson sales at Wal*Mart stores. No question and doubt about it. It's indefensible. The dyson brand and model will fold again just like before unless dyson and Wal*Mart face facts and take action quickly. This is the best sales period for vacuums for all major US retailers. If new vacuums don't sell now during the Christmas Holiday, they won't sell in January 2007 and after. Even with huge discounts. The window of opportunity is lost. So is dyson at Wal*Mart. Just to contrast the vacuum scenario. The COSTCO store in N.Las Vegas recently added the HOOVER Elite for $89. A pallet load. With a floor model in front of the pallet. They are flying off the shelves. COSTCO members average about $70,000 in annual income a year. Typically the higher priced merchandise buying clientele compared to BJ's and Sam's. They are buying up the HOOVER Elites. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 11/29/06 at 11:04am So what your trying to say is all of us "little guys" you have said you champion should be giving dyson a standing ovation for thier tough Walmart stance? ;) |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 11/29/06 at 12:33pm JimB: Dyson is not taking a "tough stance" with Wal*Mart. Dyson is "killing" any chance for success of its new dyson vacuum sales at both Wal*Mart stores and its web site. Why? A DC07 Original (first generation dyson) price of $378 and a warranty of 2 years. AND dyson MSRP for all new dysons sold through the Wal*Mart web site. These restrictions impugn Wal*Mart's competitiveness with other big box retailers for selling new dyson vacuums. Despite the long drawn out negotiations (over one year), firing of a Wal*Mart buyer, and high level intervention by dyson and Wal*Mart execs (professional friends) to get dyson back into Wal*Mart, nothing was learned from the previous mishaps with dyson and Wal*Mart over the DC All Carpet and DC07 All Floors. And the end result will likely be the same again. Dyson ousted by Wal*Mart. When that happens then you'll hear the clapping of the "little guys." And it will happen unless some significant changes are made very quickly. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/01/06 at 8:32am I received two sales supplements in today's newspapers with dyson vacuums advertised. One from KOHL'S and the other from Wal*Mart. KOHL'S has the DC07 ALL FLOORS for 10 percent off. Wal*Mart has the DC07 Original for $378. If the DC07 All Floors is priced at KOHL'S at MSRP for $399, then 10 percent off is $360. WITH A 5 YEAR WARRANTY. Versus the DC07 Original at Wal*Mart with 2 YEARS for $378. And when I visit KOHL'S stores usually the DC07 All Floors is priced in the store at less than $399. And KOHL's will discount 10 percent from the store marked price. I'm not saying $360 is the best price on the DC07 All Floors because it's not. Most big box stores are discounting DC07, DC14, and DC15 models now by 20 percent from MSRP even Animal models. So the DC07 All Floors is $321 on sale at most stores if you shop wisely. And $321-$360 on sale for a dyson DC07 beats a regular every day Wal*Mart price of $378. AND the lower dyson DC07 prices include a 5 YEAR WARRANTY not 2 like the Wal*Mart model. Also included is a LOWE'S sales supplement. Featuring the HOOVER Elite for $99 before a $10 GIFT CARD on a half page ad. Apparently customers and retailers believe it is an excellent product for the money. Typical of LOWE'S the ad states the cord length, weight and warranty: 24 feet, 15 pounds, and one year. BTW the cord is retractable. Very nice feature. This is the second retailer this week that added the HOOVER Elite to its vacuum venue for the Holidays. COSTCO is the other. Also on sale at LOWE'S are the HOOVER WT bagless 2, IRobot Scheduler, and hand held rechargeable bagless vacuums from SHOP VAC and BLACK & DECKER for $69 and $59 respectively at 5 and 6 pounds each and both with 2 YEAR WARRANTY. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/03/06 at 10:14pm It's time to recap the Sunday weekly vacuum sales and HOOVER does it again with a full page ad in the Sunday PARADE advertising its Holiday sale: Buy a HOOVER Floormate and Windtunnel 2 now thru 1/7/07 and receive a $100 rebate. Details and participating retailers at HOOVER.com. BEST BUY features BOTH Euro-Pro Shark Infinity bagless HEPA models, red and teal, for $249 and $199 respectively. Plus the HOOVER bagless model that is apperaing at all the retailers for the Holidays: The HOOVER Elite Rewind Bagless for $99. But that's not all. The dyson DC15 Animal for $599 before an instant $50 Gift Card. In an ironic twist the Infinity bagless models get the now famous: Cyclones never lose suction. And not the dyson. A low blow to James from the big box retailer that encouraged him to launch his bagless brand in the USA in April 2002, before he really wanted to launch. TARGET features some usual brands including the dyson DC07 ALL FLOORS for $399 before a $20 in store savings. THe iRobot Scooba which originally listed for $599 is being sold for $299 AND a free $50 TARGET Giftcard. SEARS has its usual array of Kenmore products including the vacuum rated Number 1: The Sears Progressive "bagged" upright for $279. The dyson DC14 Complete, a SEARS exclusive, for $479 is also on sale. With the iRobots again for $299: The Scheduler and Scooba. Linens N Things has ALL its the generation 1 and 2 dysons on sale: The DC07 All Floors and Animal and the DC14 Animal and the DC15 All Floors. All at MSRP: The DC07 All Floors $399. the DC07 Animal $499, the DC14 Animal $549, and the DC15 All Floors $499. But retailers and customers know that these dysons are old and have been around forever and they can't sell without discounts. So use the 20 percent coupon which LNT is famous for advertising. Talking about old dysons, CIRCUIT CITY features the DC07 All Floors and Animal for $399 and $499 respectively. And no discounts. These won't sell this week. Plus the IRobot Discovery for $249 and the usual old inventory HOOVER uprights. KOHL'S is THE ONLY retailer with the latest and greatest dyson DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. But if you read the reviews on the website that Dyson Chris was kind enough to provide on this new model, you'll find that customers are shopping for the best price and not paying dyson MSRP. After 4 years in the USA, American vacuum buyers have got dyson's number on prices. And right along side the dyson is the teal Euro-Pro Infinity for $199 AND YET ANOTHER LOW BLOW TO THE INVENTOR OF CYCLONE SUCTION TECHNOLOGY: The Infinty, not the dyson, gets the acclaimed "NO LOSS OF SUCTION. What's up with this? James Dyson must feel like the Rodney Dangerfield of vacuums: No respect. And let's not forget the iRobot Discovery for $279. Roombas here, roombas there, Roombas Roombas everywhere. And why not. If you have the most sophisticated technology for vacuums for the 21 Century, why wouldn't ALL BIG BOX RETAILERS sell your robotic vacuum cleaners. Last but least: ORECK. David proves once again that he's smarter than the average vacuum maker and retailer. Where does he advertise? In the coupon magazine supplement of the newspaper, of course. Where else do you find savings and bargains? All American consumers cut coupons and look for sale items there. Why not put a full page ORECK ad with the most recognized man in vacuums in the coupon magazine? David, you're still the vacuum marketing wiz in the US. You got what Aretha Franklin made famous in her song: R-E-S-P-E-C-T. That's ALL folks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/09/06 at 8:28am The first "fall-out" of Wal*Mart's sagging November 2006 sales and predictions for flat Holiday sales comes true AND BEFORE CHRISTMAS. Not the most civil and generous time of the year for "firings" and "dismissals." Unless you are sending a message for all to hear loud and clear. Earlier this week Wal*Mart "ousted" two senior marketing executives: Julie Roehm, its senior VP of marketing communications; and Sean Womack, VP of communications architecture. And a few days after the "firings" Wal*Mart "dismissed" the lead advertising agency it had just hired (late October 2006): Interpublic Group's Draft FCB. Wal*Mart's annual advertising budget is $580 MILLION. That's more than one and one half million dollars a day spent on advertising by Wal*Mart. The plot thickens and the fatalities mount. How will the "fall out" affect vacuum cleaner brands, models and sales? Only time will tell. But there is one certainty. There will be an effect. The questions are: How, what, when and which? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/11/06 at 12:19am If it's Sunday, it's vacuum advertising sales time for the newspapers and the big box retailers. BEST BUY is still trying to sell off its first generation dyson DC07 but the $399 before the $50 Instant Gift Card won't budge them off the shelves. The DC16 is still $149 and the only of the latest of the dysons to get BEST BUY advertising space. The EUREKA BOSS SmartVac is $139 and one of BEST BUY's best sells. Two of the HOOVER line up: THe FloorMate and All Terrain are among the advertised. And the Rhoomba iRobot for $199. If you are the last on the block to get smitten by the dyson bug, Linen-N-Things has the best sale this week on the first and second generation. Like last week, still the same old same old: DC07 Animal and DC15 All Floors for $499 before 20 percent off. Proudly displaying the 5 Year Warranty, just like last week. But wait, what's this? The Black & Decker Pivot Vacuum for $59 before the 20 percent off AND the LNT "NEW" moniker. This is the brand and model that competes with the dyson DC16 hand held but for half the price. Nice graphical depiction of the 10-position pivoting nozzle. And last but not least, the Rhoomba iRobot Scheduler for $329 before the 20 percent off. And now to SEARS. Still advertising its dyson DC14 Complete SEARS Exclusive for $479. And an array of the best SEARS vacuum products upright and canister. And the HOOVER WindTunnel Supreme for $119. Excellent price for this HOOVER model. And the Black & Decker Pivot Vacuum for $59 with the trailer "BEFORE IN-STORE SAVINGS." And the KONE Cordless hand vac (by Dirt Devil) for $39 "BEFORE IN-STORE SAVINGS." Can you believe it? SEARS is advertising a Dirt Devil! But don't look for the Dirt Devil name on the ad. It's not there. ANd last but not least: You guessed it! The Rhoomba iRobot Scheduler for $299. And Circuit City. The newest of the retailers to add vacuums back to its venue, so don't be surprised by the "old" models and promos. Can you believe its offering the DC07 Animal for $499 with the DC07 Animal play dyson free (a $39 value). Wasn't this the dyson promo from the 2005 Holiday sales season? Give it up dyson. Put your leftover toys in the toy stores for $15-$20 like all the other play vacuums and get your DC17 in the big box retailers. The usual old HOOVER and BISSELL models. And last but not least: Yup, the iRobot Red for $149 before a $25 Gift Card. TARGET even plays in the vacuum sales this week with the latest and greatest dysons: The DC17 Animal Absolute for $549 and the DC16 Hand Held for $149. And the Kone cordless vacuums for $39 WITH THE DIRT DEVIL name AND the DD Broom Vacs for $49. THe HOOVER Savvy for $199 before a $30 TARGET Giftcard. (Limited quantities and no rainchecks). But wait, that's not all. You guessed it: the Rhoomba iRobot for $199 before a $30 TARGET Giftcard. Rhoombas here Rhoombas there. Rhoombas Rhoombas everywhere. And why not? What working woman wouldn't love a man (or woman) who gives her a robotic vacuum? Show the woman in your life, she's special. Give her an iRobot vacuum for Christmas. And rounding out the vacuum sales is Lowes. With the Electrolux Oxygen 3 cann for $448; 2 year warranty, 20 pounds and 21 foot cord (winder). Don't forget the Pronto 2 in 1 stick vac from Electrolux for $99. And the BISSELL 2X ProHeat for $199. And last but not least:.....................................gotcha. Dyson DC14 Animal for $549 and DC16 for $149. Slight foul up in the warranty information. The ad shows the DC17 with 2 years and the DC16 with 5 years. Well at least the prices are right. But tell me this: How is dyson supposed to sell the DC14 Animal for $549 when it's selling the DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. Dah? DC14, 2nd generation dyson with wimpy brushbar vice the latest and "greater dyson." Both $549? You gotta be kidding, right? Come on dyson, reprice the products to sell. The custom is out with the old and in with the new. How? Drop the prices on the 3, 4 and soon to be 5 year old models. They're obsolete. Get rid of them. You're killing yourself and your product sales (and me in the process). Well, that's all folks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by RAT on 12/11/06 at 10:56pm Sam's Club has the Electrolux Trilobite robotic vacuum for $499. I'm not sure that it's worth a premium over the I-robot products, but it comes in a nice pretty red holiday box. Frankly I'm disappointed that Dyson hasn't come out with any really cool new toys, Christmas ornaments, or even a strand of Dyson Christmas lights with little light up Dyson products in various colors. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/14/06 at 8:16am BEST BUY's Profit Feels Pinch of Cutthroat Pricing in the Market (Source Wall Street Journal Wed. Dec 13, 2006) BEST BUY is one of a handful of US retailers that does not report monthly sales data. Instead it reports quarterly. And for the quarter ended Nov 25, which includes the first two days of the holiday shopping season including Black Friday, BEST BUY reported a lower-than-expected increase in third quarter net income as cutthroat pricing put pressure on profit margins. Shares of BB stock fell $2.62 or 4.9 percent. Its gross profit margin declined more than expected from 24.4 percent to 23.5 percent. CFO Darren Jackson and Vice Chief Executive Brad Anderson referred to the disapointing sales figures as a "speed bump" in the quarter. Forecasts for the 4th quarter were not revised downward. (Poster paraphrased pertinent data and details from the WSJ article which can be found on page B3 and/or WSJ.com/Online Today for subscribers). Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/18/06 at 8:10am The final sale week before Christmas is shaping up to be very interesting for the big box retailers and their vacuum cleaner sales. The Sunday PARADE showcases a 2 full page ad in the middle of the section exclusively by Wal*Mart for an array of vacuum cleaners and small kitchen appliances. After the recent high level "firings" of the two marketing execs who were supposed to usher in the "upscale" and "trendy" items for the retailer, it's clear Wal*Mart is resorting back to its old ways: Roll Back prices and Smiley Faces. The vacuums featured include HOOVER, the FUSION of course for $98 a stalwart seller for the chain, Dirt Devils REACTION 1 and 2 billed as cyclonic uprights for $98 and $148, EUREKA Superlite and Altima for $47 and $74, and the floorcare reliables: BISSELL ProHeat Steamer for $166, BISSELL Flip Ease for $47, HOOVER Floormate for $137, and HOOVER SteamVac EXtractor for $139. Low prices in effect through Dec 23. No dysons advertised this time including the Wal*Mart Exclusive Original DC07. THis is the DC07 for $378 AND THE ONLY dyson upright with the 2 year waranty rather than 5 years. But don't expect to see the warranty on the dyson USA site. Dyson clearly marks the other DC07's with the 5 Year Warranty, but is conspicuously silent on the Wal*Mart model. Saying nothing is more telling than not. Will the strategy to revert back to the old Wal*Mart ways rescue the retailer's sluggish Holiday sales? It's risky. Let's be realistic, it was this same failing marketing strategy that brought the Madison Avenue marketing high flyers, recently fired, to Wal*Mart in the first place. BEST BUY gives the latest dyson DC17 Absolute Animal a nod this week for $549 and right along side the DC15 Ball Animal for $599. The Ball even comes with a $50 Instant Gift Card. THe usual array of bagless are featured too, from the $99 BISSELL Momentum and $179 BISSELL Lift-Off, to the bagged Eureka Maxima for $39, Dirt Devil Swivel Glide for $49 and BISSELL Spot Bot for $129. BISSELL gets a $20 Instant Gift Card. Dyson rules for the other big box retailers too. SEARS has the DC17 Animal Absolute for $549. Linens-N-Things has the DC14 Animal for $549 (And don't forget the 20 percent off coupon which is good through Dec 30, 2006). TARGET has the DC14 Drive Exclusive Target model for $459 plus a $50 Gift Card. (Quantities Limited, No Rainchecks). CIRCUIT CITY still pushing the DC07 All Floors for $399 and no incentive save for "no interest for 90 days." Even BED BATH and BEYOND has 20 percent off coupon Certificates good through Jan 8, 2007. My newspaper was generous, I got several. Are the days of the first and second generation dysons in the USA retailers winding down? A few other significant vacuum items advertised this week: The Black and Decker Pivot Vacuum at Target for $49. This is the hand held that competes with the DC16 dyson. (BTW, B&D revised annual sales and revenues down several times this year and still due to the flat USA housing market). The Spot Bot from BISSELL gets featured too for $128 BEFORE a $25 Instant Target Gift Card and the BISSELL Velocity billed as "dual cyclonic" for $129 and ProHeat Deep Cleaner for $169 BEFORE a $20 Gift Card. SEARS has the BISSELL Velocity too billed as "multi cyclonic" cleaning for $129 AND my Christmas favorite this year the Rhoomba Scheduler for $299. Some interesting facts with respect to Holiday sales: According to the Commerce Department statistics, 25 percent of big box retail sales occur in the months of November and December. And according to NPD, 40 percent of all the annual toy sales occur during the Nov and Dec period. And also according to NPD, Wal*Mart is the biggest toy retailer in the USA. David Oreck is taking a different tact. He is peppering the local newspapers daily with ads of him and his vacuums for $299. He is pictured in a winter wonderland scene and Santa chapeau. Very dapper and stylish for the 84 year old WW11 vet. If you think people are not buying new Orecks for Christmas, think again. A visit to a local Oreck store is very telling. And the likely buyers too. That's a rap folks, longer than I like, but all inclusive for the final week before Christ-mas. Remember to keep Christ in Christmas. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/19/06 at 11:01pm Circuit City gets short-circuited in Wall Street trading today. Yet another big box retailer reports disappointing third quarter earnings and takes a nose dive. Circuit City stock dropped $4 to $19 a share in trading today after reporting a loss of 9 cents per share for Q3 ended Nov 30. Analysts were predicting a 5 cents per share gain. Circuit City recently added vacuums back to its sales venue. But cut throat pricing of electronics especially plasma and LCD TV's this Holiday season cut deeply into profits. BEST BUY stock dropped 79 cents in sympathy with Circuit City. BEST BUY reported disappointing Q3 earnings last week after Wal*Mart reported its worse Nov same store sales in over 10 years. Tomorrow, BED BATH and BEYOND reports earnings. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/22/06 at 8:31am FedEX Corp had its busiest day ever on Monday Dec 18, moving about 9.8 MILLION shipments............ But also warned that the current quarter ended Feb 28, 2007, Dec-Jan-Feb, will bring the giant's first profit decline in more than three years. Average daily volume of express shipments which are moved mostly by air is poised to post its first year-over-year decline in five years. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/23/06 at 8:09am Another Wal*Mart marketing casualty: Mark Goodman, the marketing chief who oversaw the selection of a new outside advertising agency for Wal*Mart Stores Inc.'s Sam's Club division, left the retailer this week after just 14 months. This follows the high level "firings" recently by Wal*Mart of Julie Roehm the Senior VP for marketing, and a VP who reported to her, who were instrumental in the selection of ad agency Interpublic Group unit Draft FCB as its agency, which was dismissed. A new solicitation process is underway for an Ad agency. Mr. Goodman, 39 years old, joined Sam's Club in October 2005 and was the Exec. VP of Marketing and oversaw the selection in August of the New York boutique StrawberryFrog LLC as Sam's Club new advertising agency displacing longtime agency GSD&M of Austin Texas. A Sam's Club spokes person says the new agency account will NOT be reviewed by the company. (Source: WSJ Thursday Dec 21, 2006: Who's News. page B7.) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/24/06 at 8:08am Fry's Electronics, a retailer noted for low-balling even the low ball vacuum makes and models, is advertising the dyson Absolute DC17 Animal for $549 before an up to $70 instant rebate, which extends to all in-stock dyson upright vacuums. Also advertised is the Roomba Discovery for $249 which includes a $30 savings (and up to $50 on in-stock robotics). The sale is in effect Saturday and Sunday Dec 23 and 24. And prices are subject to change after Dec 24. But there are restrictions: "Advertised prices valid only in metropolitan circulation area of newspaper in which this advertisement appears. Prices and selection shown in the advertisement may not be available online at Fry's website: www.Frys.com. The BIG WINNER in vacuum ads today, Sunday, Christmas Eve, is David Oreck, the Oreck XL21 and the 450 Oreck Clean Home Centers nationwide. With full page color ads in the PARADE and USA WEEKEND, a festively dressed David Oreck is pitching his famous lightweight vacuum with $100 off, a 21 year warranty, and free compact canister. Retail trade watchers and analysts forecast that as many as 33 percent of the Christmas shoppers had not finished their Christmas shopping on Friday Dec 22. David is hoping to lock in some of those last minute shopping procrastinators, who may make and/or break the Holiday shopping season. My compliments Dave. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/24/06 at 4:12pm I reported on the early edition of vacuum ads for Christmas Eve (see above). Now for the late edition: Circuit City is still advertising the first generation dyson DC07 Animal for $499 with no discounts. Trying to get the highest price for last minute Holiday season shoppers. Plus the BISSELL ProHeat 2X for $249. This is the water heater version. And the BISSELL CleanView Power Trak for $99. This PowerTrak is not the cyclonic version which is newly launched by BISSELL and at selected retailers. BEST BUY is advertising dyson too: The DC07 All Floors for $399 and DC16 Handheld for $149 BUT...............a new marketing twist: Not only is there a $50 Gift Card for the DC07 but the prices are lower in the stores. Yes, that's right. The MSRP for both dysons are advertised as "Before Instant Savings." And the caveat that on-line offers may vary. It looks like the retailers have found a loop hole in the dyson MAP, a chink in the armor. The problem is that shoppers have to go into the stores to get the discounts. So close to Christmas, that's a HARDSELL. And BTW, hello HARDSELL and MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and all the WTBV Forumers. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/25/06 at 8:30am Merry Christmas: "Keep Christ in Christmas." Retailers nationwide will be advertising after Christmas sales and year end sales commencing Tuesday Dec 26, at 6 AM. All the big box stores will be peppering the newspapers with vacuum cleaner sales. Stay tuned to this thread on the Forum for the details. Kohl's, Target, SEARS, even Lowe's, one of the best and final bidders recently for HOOVER, are in the lineup. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/25/06 at 6:55pm Looks like SEARS has jumped on the "before in store savings" wagon with the dyson DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. Plus a new slogan "Consider a Canister" for its Progressive for $269. And two of HOOVER's top 3 line up: The Steam Vac and HOOVER WT Supreme. Target is still pushing the DC07 Animal for $499 plus a $50 Giftcard. And the BISSELL HEALTHY HOME for $299 plus a $30 Giftcard. KOHL's has the dysons DC07 Low reach for $399 and the DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. No savings here for dyson buyers. Pitted against the dyson bagless are the Eureka Altima for $89 and Boss 4D for $139. Plus the DD Reaction Dualcyconic for $139. Big savings for the Eureka and DD 2. And rounding out the floorcare are the HOOVER SteamVac Dual V for $199 and BISSELLS' QuickSteamer ($69), PowerSteamer ($109) and ProHeat ($169). And finally Lowe's, one of the unsuccessful recent HOOVER bidders, featuring HOOVER and BISSELL lineups. For the BISSELL lineup, there is an additional 10 percent off the Lift Off for $169, QuickSteamer for $89, SpotLifter for $39, and CarpetSweeper for $9. And the ProHeat for $168. Plus from Lowe's, the HOOVER sale for the 2006 Holiday Season buy a WT 2 Bagless for $298 and FloorMate Spin Scrub for $168 before January 8, 2007 and save $70. But that's not all. Buy a WT bagless for $158 and get a HOOVER Slider free. IMHO, Lowe's has it wrong. It should be the other way around. Buy the HOOVER Slider and get the WT bagless free. The HOOVER Slider, discussed and pictured in the thread about the dyson DC16 handheld, is a winner. A rechargeable stick vacuum retailing for $25-$40, this little gadget can sell millions if advertised. A lightweight, easy to use, revolving brush, bagless that goes for 30 minutes on a charge. If HOOVER put this product on prime time, it would be the best selling home cleaning sweeper for the year. I recall seeing the HOOVER Slider boxed in a corner at a local HOOVER store in LV and asking about it. When it was demoed, I bought 2. Then, I went back and bought 2 more, and another 2, and another and another.................But not before I convinced the store manager to put it up front by the check out counter and keep it charged. And voila, now it is one of the best selling products for the store. When you have a good thing, flaunt it. Don't hide it. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/27/06 at 8:24am Bed Bath & Beyond stock price dropped 6.5 percent last week. The retailer's third quarter earnings of 50 cents a share fell short of analyst forecasts that on average called for earnings of 52 cents. "Wal*Mart's renewed focus on discounts has caused fallout throughout the retailing world. Electronics retailers have felt the brunt of it as Wal*Mart waded into their turf in its search for new growth opportunities. BEST BUY and Circuit City stores have both been cutting prices sharply on flat screen TVs and both issued quarterly reports this month that disappointed investors." Source: Justin Lahart, WSJ, Dec 26, 2006. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 12/29/06 at 7:58am It's been a bad holiday season for retailers. Most did not meet sales goals and forecasts for the Holiday 2006 season and are revising yearly amounts downward. And now begins the season of many unhappy returns. At least 1 in 3 US consumers is expected to return one gift from the holiday season. Return fraud costs retailers $9.6 BILLION per year and $3.5 BILLION occurring over the holidays. To combat the problem big box retailers are tightening their return and refund policies. This means more hassles and/or restrictions. Retailers are shortening return periods, charging substantial restock fees for boxed items, setting amount limits on returns by customer, and offering no refunds. The liberal return policies are fading away according to Edgar Dworsky, founder of ConsumerWorld.org, a Massachusetts consumer guide. Nordstrom did away with the return policy altogether. John Bailey, a spokesman for Nordstrom in Seattle, said the company handles returns case by case. Nordstrom says it builds customer loyalty by not having a return policy. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/01/07 at 12:11am Here's a recap of the final weekend of 2006 for vacuum cleaner ads by the big box retailers. And a good vacuum cleaner sales weekend it is. But......... first the TV vacuum cleaner ad story for the week has to be David Oreck who, partnered with the jolly old bearded man in the red suit, is pitching his Oreck vacuums on prime time. Just because Christmas passed doesn't mean people don't buy vacuums after the Holidays for themselves. And what better way to convince people to rethink that vacuum purchase than with Christmas tree pine needles and pet fur, both of which are made easy fodder for the Oreck lightweight upright vacuum. And now for the PARADE: And the big winner is...........dyson but not for its ad. No. Even better. Seems the Intelligence Report by Lyric Wallwork Winik quotes Lisa Roberts, author of Antiques of the Future, for the picks on tomorrow's treasures. And on the 2006 list is a dyson vacuum DC07. Since the pic is black and white its hard to tell what model. But I'm guessing it's the DC07 pink. Some of Roberts' s picks for tomorrow's treasures are a dyson vacuum, a 1996 wastebasket named for Greta Garbo, and Apple's iMac G3 (not Kirby's) computer. Roberts says these products "represent the best designs of their time." So Lisa does that mean we will see a dyson vacuum cleaner in 50 years on TV's Antique Roadshow? Have to wait and see. If the above makes you want to go buy a 1st generation DC07, there are plenty still available and on sale. Circuit City as usual is offering the first generation DC 07 All Floors and Animal for $399 and $499 respectively. (Before a 10 percent savings on all in-store floorcare). That beats TARGET which is selling the 1st generation DC07 All Floors for $399 before a $20 in store savings. Could it be that Circuit City and TARGET knew about the PARADE article and the dyson prediction and planned their ads? If so, it didn't affect BEST BUY's dyson ads. It's pushing the DC17 Absolute Animal for $549 with no discounts. And several BISSELL bagless models AND the HOOVER Steam Vac, All Terrain Steam Vac and WT2 Surface Command. The WT 2 is $265 with BEST BUY's claim: "Most powerful upright for carpet cleaning." And SEARS is advertising the DC17 Absolute Animal for $549 with the printed caveat: "Priced lower in the store." And also an array of Consumer Reports winning Sears Progressive uprights and canisters from $229 to $379. And Kohl's bypasses dysons altogether and features BISSELL and Eureka instead. But IMHO THE BEST vacuum cleaner ad this final weekend of 2006 goes to Linen-n-Things. Hands down the winner for 2006. First a full page ad for the dyson DC14 Animal for $549 PLUS a $50 Gift Card and 20 percent off and the claim: "Our #1 BEST Seller." Maybe so but $549 for the 2nd generation when the latest and greatest dyson DC17 Absolute Animal (the greater dyson) is $549 (before in store savings), its going to be a HARDSELL for savvy dyson vacuum cleaner buyers. And the final and best for 2006: A 2 full page fold out of dyson, HOOVER, BISSELL, Shark, Bosch, Electrolux, Roomba and Scooba floorcare products in splendiferous color and detail. This is a keeper vacuum fans. Forget the Lisa Roberts pick of dyson DC07 for future treasures. The real treasure is this FREE (just the cost of the newspaper) LNT paper ad. This is the 2006 keeper for future treasures. With 24 floorcare products, descriptions and prices in one huge color display, you'll have a real treasure for posterity. HAPPY NEW YEAR! Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/04/07 at 7:55am Wal*Mart estimated Dec 2006 sales increased 1.6 percent, the best monthly increase since August. The stock price went up $1.40 on the NYSE yesterday. So... is the Wal*Mart back to basics making a difference? Too soon to tell. But I suspect the recent firings of several high flying Madison Avenue Marketing types from Wal*Mart is just a distant memory. Most big box retailers are predicting a flat to down sales and profit outlook for final calendar quarter of 2006. Including electronics sales which are down year over year from the same period last year. This cut into profits at retailers like BEST BUY and CIRCUIT CITY. Reason: The 2006 slump in the housing market and increase in oil costs. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/05/07 at 7:11am COSTCO will sell the HOOVER WT bagged Self-Propelled for $177 starting Feb 12 through 18, 2007. This is the first generation WT rated Number 1 by Consumer Reports for several years. The price is comprised of the regular low COSTCO retail price of $217 AND a special one time $40 discount coupon. Final COSTCO price is $177. But wait it gets better. The vacuum comes with SIX (6) HEPA bags and a 20 foot stretch hose. The HOOVER WT SP vacuum is also available on line at costco.com but delivery charges may apply. That's not all. COSTCO will sell the iRobot Roomba Scheduler Robotic vacuum for $209 between March 12 through March 18, 2007. This is the iRobot top of the line and the price is comprised of the regular COSTCO price of $259 (fairly common among all the big box retailers) AND a $50 one time discount coupon for a final cost of $209. Also available on line but delivery charges may apply. Two great products and 2 great values. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/08/07 at 7:15am Nothing to report in the way of vacuum cleaner ads this past weekend. Most big box retailers are taking a break to evaluate beginning of the year vacuum inventory on the shelves. What sold and what didn't sell. Fry's Electronic's is one of the retailers that bucked the trend and did advertise. It's choice: The Euro-Pro Infinity bagless upright. The teal model. For $179, an excellent price. Several retailers' stores, like Kohl's and Wal*Mart, had difficulty keeping this model, and the more expensive red Infinity, stocked on the shelves over the Holiday season. It's a very popular selling vacuum make and model among big box retailers. No doubt the reason, in part, that Fry's chose to run the ad. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/09/07 at 7:57am Dec 2006 was good to Circuit City. Even better to BEST BUY. The nation's 2 largest consumer electronics retailers reported strong December sales on Jan 5. Circuit City said sales at stores open at least one year rose 4.2 percent in line with analyst estimates. BEST BUY, the larger chain, said sales for the month rose 7 percent at stores open at least 14 months, significantly better than the 5 percent estimate by analysts. Flat panel TVs are the biggest hit in consumer electronics. World-wide sales of flat TV sets doubled in 2006 to 50 MILLION units representing one quarter of the market. Analysts expect sales to exceed 70 MILLION in 2007. The product represents a combination of high volumes and high profits. But can profits last while prices fall? US electronics retailers, whose margins of 30-40 percent represent the biggest element of the the final price, are now using flat-panel TV sets for their own strategic discounting. BEST BUY CO. offered a Panasonic 42 inch plasma HDTV at $999 for one day during the holiday sales season. The set is regularly priced around $1500 still well below the $4000 it cost two years ago. World-wide TV market share by revenue, for the top 5 manufacturers for quarter 3 of 2006: Samsung 15.2 percent; Sony 10.3 percent; Panasonic 9.2 percent; LG 8.5 percent; Philips 7.7 percent. The International Consumer Electronics Show opened in Las Nevada this week and is expectd to generate $200 MILLION in revenue. Bill Gates gave the opening remarks on Sunday evening at the Venetian to 4000 attendees. http://tech.yahoo.com/ces/null/11884/five-must-see-gadgets-at-ces Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/10/07 at 7:53am Wal*Mart says Holiday 2006 sales are the worse ever. December 2006 sales disappoint many retailers and sales figures leave gaps. On-line sales and gift card sales are not included in the numbers and reflect a shift in the way consumers shop these days. Overall the retailers reported a 3.1 percent increase in Dec 2006 sales at stores open at least one year. That falls short of the 3.5 percent increase in Dec 2005 sales at stores open at least one year as well as the 3.6 percent increase in same store sales logged for the whole year. Redemptions of gift cards could give retailers a lift in January when roughly half of the cards are typically used often to buy merchandise at full price (perhaps a reason for no vacuum sales this week?). It's estimated that 10 percent of card values go unused (according to Brian Riley at Tower Group Inc a Needham Mass Research firm). This gets booked as revenue by retailers if not redeemed after one year. Gift card sales totalled $25 BILLION up 34 percent from last year. Here's a recap of some of the stores covered in this thread: Total Dec 2006 sales at Wal*Mart (including Sam's Club stores) is $44 BILLION, an increase of 8.8 percent, and up 1.6 percent from Dec 2005. Target $9.3 BILLION, an increase of 9.9 percent, and up 4.1 percent from Dec 2005. COSTCO $7.3 BILLION, an increase of 14 percent, and up 9 percent from Dec 2005. Kohl's $2.8 BILLION, an increase of 11.2 percent, and up 3 percent from Dec 2005 sales. Another Wal*Mart Executive resigned. Mr. Lawrence Jackson, Global Procurement Chief. He held the position for just 9 months but worked for Wal*Mart for 2 years mostly as Human Resources Chief. THis makes 4 high level departures and/or firings within the month and more are expected in the next month or two. Last week, Wal*Mart announced the retirement effective Jan 31 of its Treasurer Charles Holley, formerly VP of Finance. Last month Mark Goodman, marketing chief at Wal*Mart's Sam's Club for just 14 months left abruptly. Early in Dec Wal*Mart parted with marketing Senior VP, Julie Roehm and her assistant. Analysts anticipate additional changes in Wal*Mart's marketing department and the team overseeing apparel and home decor. No comments from Wal*Mart on the changes. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/11/07 at 8:52am Speaking of forced departures, the most notable is Mr. Robert Nardelli, CEO for the past 6 years, at HOME DEPOT. He was forced to exit recently with a severance package of $210 MILLION including $20 MILLION in cash. Nardelli was "old school" and focused on the idea that you do your job, take care of the numbers, and the rest will take care of itself. In six years on the job he doubled HOME DEPOT's sales and more than doubled earnings. But the stock price languished. In fact the only spike up in price was on the news of his departure. And most of the gain has been given back. What went wrong? Was he a victim of a managment technique he championed called the "Six Sigma" made famous by his former boss at GE Jack Welch that failed miserably to lift the stock price? Or his autocratic management style? Or lack of retail experience? And the exodus of high level HOME DEPOT execs with retail experience. LOWES has been a fierce competitor beating out HOME DEPOT especially in large appliance sales by opening up room for displays, employing knowledgeable sales people, and appealing more to women consumers. But many problems still remain for the retailer, from a decline in home prices to vigorous competition from Lowe's Cos, and a shortage of top ranked managers with retail experience. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/12/07 at 8:05am SEARS Holdings Corp forecast fiscal Quarter 4 profit of $750-$830 MILLION, exceeding Wall Street's expectations despite continued declines in same-store sales! For the nine-week period ended Dec 30, 2006, SEARS same-store sales fell 5.6 percent at its domestic SEARS stores and declined 1.2 percent at KMART stores. Same-store sales, or sales at stores open at least one year, are a closely watched measure of retail performance. The company did not provide an estimate of total sales. It blamed the same-store decline at SEARS on lower lawn and garden and appliance sales saying this was partly offset by improved results in women's apparel. Lower KMART sales were due to lower volumes, the company said. KMART's apparel sales increased from prior-year levels despite being hurt by unseasonably warm weather this Holiday season. (Source: Wall Street Journal, Page C8, Jan. 11, 2007) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/12/07 at 7:43pm Two of the 3 best sellers for floorcare at Wal*Mart are HOOVER: Floormate and FUSION. The third is the Eureka upright BOSS Smart Vac. http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_constraint=0&search_query=vacuums&ic=24_0&Continue.x=22&Continue.y=8 Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 01/12/07 at 10:48pm Wow, I knew Hoover is trying to move the remainder of the z inventory at 100 bucks a pop to dealers but I had not realized that the fusion was down to $98 at retail. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/13/07 at 7:25am Increased bagless competition from BISSELL, DIRT DEVIL, and Euro-Pro Shark force the retail prices of most big box store models to be lowered. Lower prices reduce profit margin and has to be made up in more volume sales. If not, the vacuum is dropped from the shelves. Considering the MSRP on the HOOVER FUSION was $129 in April 2005 when Wal*Mart launched it, the $98 today, almost 2 years later, is still a good buy and sell. Sam's Club stores carry the HOOVER FUSION PLUS for $109 vice a $139 MSRP when it was launched. Excellent buys. Excellent performers. Always and still sell well. HOOVER is discounting the HOOVER Z models to authorized HOOVER dealers for $100 wholesale? I didn't know. I recall when I was a HOOVER dealer, once upon a time a very long time ago, HOOVER offered similar "deals" to its dealers on other famous HOOVER models: Dials; Power Dials; Concepts, and Celebrities. Usually right before new models are planned and/or in order to reduce old inventory. With the big 1-0-0 Anniversary coming next year, who knows? BTW, the HOOVER factory stores still stock and sell the Z400 for $350 and Z700 for $399 MSRP. With a 2 year complete product warranty. Any and all prices less than these, I would consider a must buy. Having owned and used the Z400 in my house for over 4 months, I can attest to its excellent performance. So can the new donee. The person who bought my house. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/13/07 at 9:38am Retail sales show only moderate growth. THe Commerce Department releases its measure of December retail sales, providing a picture of Holiday spending, now seen as somewhat disappointing. Retail sales are forecast to show a gain of .7 percent from the previous month, including auto sales, and rise of .5 percent when motor vehicles are stripped out. The results follow a 1 percent jump in November, when lower gas prices were a big plus. Have to take the numbers with a grain of salt dispite painting a dismal picture of Holiday sales. Why? November's sales jump had chin scratchers scratching their heads. Both individual stores' sales figures and sales data from credit card transactions suggested it had been a weak month. One reason November retail sales report was so strong MAY have been that Thanksgiving came earlier than usual. Meaning more holiday sales were pushed into November. And probably pulled from December! Similarly, giftcard sales mean a portion of retail sales usually booked in December get booked in January(usually 50 percent). As the cards gain in sales popularity each year, government types can't keep up with seasonal swings and adjust the sales figures. Overall fourth quarter sales will probably come in on the strong side even with weak November sales. UNLESS November sales get revised sharply downward. This is good after two quarters of weak consumer spending. At least part of the end of year pick up in sales is probably due to the drop in gasoline prices according to UBS economist Jim O'Sullivan. But the housing market downturn can still bite. Overall it should be a good sales year for vacuums. Not great. Time will tell. Vacuum sales are even harder to get a grip on. Why? According to the NPD, an authoritative industry source, vacuum manufacturers book new vacuum sales when the units are sold to retailers. So alot of the retailers stores' unsold inventory in their warehouses and on their shelves are already counted as new vacuum sales by the vacuum makers. And this product may not be sold to end users until 1-2-3-4-and even 5- years after the vacuum makers sold the product to the retailers. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/15/07 at 8:29am Before looking at the Sunday vacuum cleaner ads, let's summarize some of the important economic numbers coming out of the US Commerce Department on Friday for 2006. The total amount of December 2006 retail sales is $369.9 BILLION. When compared to December 2005, retail sales for Dec 2006 were up 5.4 percent compared to a Dec 2005-Dec 2006 growth of 5.7 percent. Full year growth in 2006 was lower than 2005, but ended on a high note. No doubt the effects on consumer spending in quarters 2 and 3 of THE DOUBLE WHAMMY: Bad housing market AND high gasoline prices. The 2006 holiday season's big winners included electronics and appliances where sales rose 3 percent in Dec 2006 from Nov 2006 and 15 percent from a year earlier. A host of products fed the surge including new video game consoles like Nintendo Co's Wii, digital music players, and flat panel TV sets. Prices on flat panel and HD TV sets have plummeted in recent months as mass market retailers charged into the category. Heavy discounting of electronics lifted revenue at stores like Circuit City and BEST BUY in 2006. Of the $370 BILLION in Dec 2006 sales, the largest category by sales dollars goes to electronics and appliances which accounts for 15 percent or $55.5 BILLION. The only other 2 digit sales category is health and personal care which comes in at 10.2 percent. Ten (10) other venues all come in with single digits. In hindsight, the big US vacuum makers, like BISSELL and EURO-Pro Shark, who brought new bagless upright models to the retailers' stores before the 2006 Holiday season hit a homerun. One brand in particular, Euro-pro Shark Infinity with 2 models in the $200-$250 had a hard time keeping the product on some retailers' shelves. They sold quickly at retailers' stores like Wal*Mart and Kohl's. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/15/07 at 9:07am What are big store retailers offering for the Martin Luther King Holiday and week? Pretty much the same same. BEST BUY is advertising some of its stalwarts: The Eureka Boss Smart Vac for $149; HOOVER's murderers' row with the Floormate for $109, the WT 2 bagless for $265, and the All Terrain Steam Vac for $299 with an added extra: The Elite Rewind for $99. The HOOVER WT 2 gets billed as "the most powerful upright for carpet cleaning." And BB has the dyson DC16 Hand Held for $149, the DC07 All Floors for $399, and the DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. Sorry no discounts from the advertised prices. Have to use up those Holiday season giftcards on merchandise at full price. Linens-n-Things has BISSELL and dyson products for sale. The Cleanview 11 plus, and two carpet cleaners. No doubt to appeal to consumers who are ready to do their after Holiday party house cleaning. Dyson for sale too. The oldies. DC15 All Floors and DC07 Animal both at $499. BUT...........we have discounts: 20 percent off. So that DC07 Animal comes in at the same price as the DC07 All Floors at BEST BUY. If you want the dyson extras like the package of Zorb rug cleaner (for spots), rug cleaning tool, and turbine tool, the dyson Animal is for you. Circuit City has BISSELL-old, HOOVER-old and new, and dyson old on sale. Cleanview, WT 1 and 2 bagless. The WT 2 is the Extra Reach with the hose extension and 8 inch hard floor brush for $259. The dyson is the DC07 Animal for $499. Deal or no deal? No deal! 20 percent off on the same dyson at L-N-T for $400 is better. Target has the Eureka Mini-Boss lightweight and Swivel Sweep for $34. Finally, the most recognized face of vacuums on TV, Mr. Oreck. He's in the main section of the newspapers with his Oreck XL Titanium. But he traded in his Santa suit and hat for a single breasted two button business suit. The consummate business man look. The deal: $100 off and 21 year warranty. That's it......... Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 01/15/07 at 7:24pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
If the XL21 was priced at $159 the $100 discont would be a bargain (maybe). |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/16/07 at 7:21am Hello HARDSELL: The XL21 Titanium is Oreck's top of the line and has an MSRP of $700 before the $100 discount, which puts it right at the MSRP of the dyson DC15 Ball Animal which has a 5 year warranty. BTW this is the Oreck model that competes and beats dyson in all the rug cleaning tests engineered by the ASTM: The American Society of Testing Materials. The only recognized standard for the vacuum industry WORLDWIDE. The Oreck XL21 comes with a warranty of 21 years and 21 free yearly checkups at any of the almost 600 Oreck centers nationwide. Oreck is a very popular seller in Las Vegas and there are 2 Oreck centers just in North Las Vegas. Many of my neighbors buy, own and use Orecks and are very pleased with them. Many are repeat customers. I have to say that is true of my neighbors in Virginia too, where there were 15 Oreck centers in the Washington metropolitan area and more opening every year. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 01/16/07 at 6:18pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
The XL21 did not beat the Dyson in my home. That is the only opinion of Oreck that I need. At $700 for a $59 vac Oreck should give free service. They could also give free bags for 21 years since it would take a year to fill one due to the poor suction. Oreck, like the TV religious beggars prey on seniors. Both are expanding daily. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/16/07 at 9:48pm HARDSELL wrote:
Consumer Reports rates and ranks the Oreck XL21 for $700 (before the $100 discount) above all dyson DC07 and DC14 models including the Animal models for $499 and $549. Particularly for ease of use: Oreck gets "Very Good" and all the dyson DC07 and DC14 models get "Fair." HARDSELL wrote:
According to Oreck (Oreck.com; 1-888-673-2578) purchasers may be eligible for a free one year supply of HEPA-Celoc Filtration bags (I believe 8/9 bags) AND a free compact canister in addition to the 21 year warranty, 21 free annual tune-ups (including a new paper bag insert), and $100 discount for a trade. Check with the nearest Oreck Clean Home Center location. BTW, the Oreck XL21 upright also has a headlight, which several other expensive foreign imports ($400-$600) don't. :) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/17/07 at 8:59am Despite the trials and tribulations of Wal*Mart, the stock price is slowly climbing. An indication that investors are pleased with the recent changes. I'm going out on a limb for 2007 and predicting that Wal*Mart (WMT) stock will be one of the best, if not the best Dow performers, in 2007. It's currently trading at its lowest multiple in years and is $47+ a share. (Right on the heels of BEST BUY). Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 01/17/07 at 5:59pm Consumer Reports rates and ranks the Oreck XL21 for $700 (before the $100 discount) above all dyson DC07 and DC14 models including the Animal models for $499 and $549. Particularly for ease of use: Oreck gets "Very Good" and all the dyson DC07 and DC14 models get "Fair." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ease of use does not contribute to cleaning performance. Neigher does a light. According to Oreck (Oreck.com; 1-888-673-2578) purchasers may be eligible for a free one year supply of HEPA-Celoc Filtration bags (I believe 8/9 bags) AND a free compact canister in addition to the 21 year warranty, 21 free annual tune-ups (including a new paper bag insert), and $100 discount for a trade. Check with the nearest Oreck Clean Home Center location. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- More reasons for a $59 vacuum to cost the consumer $700. What is the return rate due to purchases only to keep the free gift? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/17/07 at 7:23pm HARDSELL wrote:
Consumer Reports grades the Carpet and Bare floors performance for Oreck XL21 as "Good" and "Excellent" respectively. The same ratings given to the dyson DC07 and DC14 Animal models. With the exact same "rug" and "bare floor" ratings a "headlight" and "ease of use" provide added value to Oreck's cleaning performance vice the dysons. Why? Easier to use equates to more likely to be used more often even daily. A light allows vacuuming in areas that are not lighted; i.e. under beds, sofas and furniture and in closets. The lower and lighter Oreck profile vice dyson and easier to use Oreck allow cleaning the "unlit hard to get areas" quicker and more effectively than with the dysons DC07 and DC14. Dyson attachments would be used to do the job. AND dyson attachments do not work as well as the Oreck brush nozzle (IMHO). AND the dysons attachments require more time, more effort, and more bother. The likely end result: Most dyson users will NOT clean "the hard to get areas" as often and as quickly as Oreck XL21 users. HARDSELL wrote:
The 21 year Oreck XL21 warranty, 21 free yearly services, free supply of ONE year's worth of bags, free compact canister, and $100 trade-in allowance ONLY apply WITH THE PURCHASE of the Oreck XL21 according to Oreck. So the return rate of the XL21 to keep the free gifts is ZERO. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 01/17/07 at 8:40pm The dyson attachments clean better than the XL21 brushes/ I know of two XL21's that were returned and the free gift was kept each time. No, I did not do it. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/17/07 at 10:31pm HARDSELL wrote:
The dyson with attachments performed better than the dyson brush bar on my carpets too. At least I didn't hear the gawdawful ratcheting noises and the attachments cleaned the surface dirt like dog hair. HARDSELL wrote:
BUT they are people that you said you know! Unfortunately, there are always some very few number of people looking for something for nothing and a way to get it. In these cases, product performance and satisfaction have nothing to do with their motives. These people are no better than thieves and liars. In some the persons cannot get credit approval to make the Oreck purchase. Their returns are irrelevant. It's a cost of doing business, like advertising. AND, no doubt the reason that most big box retailers revised their merchandise return and refund policies to make them more restrictive and/or eliminate altogether. Their reasons are to reduce the high cost of returns and refunds due to fraud, waste and abuse by ill-intentioned consumers. Oreck offers a free 30 day in home trial evaluation on some of its XL upright vacuums, not its top of the line XL21. With a NO-RISK guarantee to accept the vacuums (upright and compact canister) back with NO QUESTIONS ASKED at any time during the 30 days at Oreck's expense for the return mail. AND allow the recipient to keep the free gift (usually an iron). Unfortunately this is a double edged sword. On the one hand it is an excellent marketing strategy and results in increased Oreck sales year after year. On the other hand, it is subject to misuse and abuse by some people, like the ones you mentioned that you know. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/22/07 at 7:37am Slim pickins at the big box stores and their vacuum cleaner ads this weekend. The usual suspects and old inventory. This is not a busy time for big box retailers and vacuums. Not after the Holidays. Typically the independent stores get busy now with repairs and parts and new sales too. Household vacuums have to be in tip top shape for the after Holiday cleaning and in preparation for "spring" house cleaning. But before the big box retailers, the real vacuum news this week: LOWE's stores official launch of the Electrolux Intensity both in newspaper ads during the week and in TV ads on the "View." At $298, bagged, fold down handle, cordwinder, full bag indicator and shut off, and easy carry and storage at 16 pounds AND more suction power than its larger competition. This has all the makings of a real vacuum winner. Time will tell. And HSN featured HOOVER products on Saturday, in particular the Agility rug cleaner for $169 and the FUSION Plus for $119. The latter is a Sam's Club exclusive. But with Sam's recent price of $109, I'm sure there was no conflict. With the TV FUSION Plus sales and its solid almost 2 year exclusive tenure, I wouldn't be surprised if a new successor HOOVER cyclonic model is on the horizon. BEST BUY featured BISSELL, the old Cleanview 11 for $79 and the new Momentum bagless for $99. And dyson, the DC15 Animal. Dyson is MSRP at $599 and no discounts. No dyson buy here this week. Circuit City had its usual: old BISSELL, HOOVER, and dyson. The BISSELL Cleanview Power Trak for $99, HOOVER WT bagless for $159 and dyson DC14 All Floors for $429 and DC07 Animal for $499. Only incentive on these oldies is no interest for 90 days. Again no deals. Finally TARGET bucks the trend with newbies and deals. The BISSELL Velocity for $129, the BISSELL Healthy Home for $299 and the dyson DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. Plus some oldies including the HOOVER Savvy for $199. A gift card of $20 on the Savvy and $30 on the BISSELL Healthy Home. Notta on the dyson DC17. And I can't forget my old pal Mr. David Oreck who passed on the weekend ads but continues to advertise in the main sections of the newspapers during the week. His own personal favorite: The Oreck XL21 Titanium: Oreck's top of the line. With the free compact canister and $100 trade in discount. 21 Year Warranty and 21 free yearly services. One more historical event for the week, unrelated to vacuums but noteworthy in the sportsworld: With the NFC and AFC NFL wins yesterday, da Bears will face off against the da Colts in the Super Bowl in 2 weeks in Miami, Florida. Why is this historical? For the first time ever, two African American pro-football head coaches will face off for the Vince Lombardi Trophy: Tony Dungy and his one time protege who he mentored, Lovee Smith. Congratulations and may the best team win. That's All Folks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/27/07 at 8:35am Now that the dust settles from the recent Wal*Mart firings and resignations, the management winners (?) emerge. Just to recap, Wal*Mart lost its head of procurement, head of marketing for Sam's Club and Corporate Treasurer as well as hiring/firing the 2 Ad Agencies for managing its $580 MILLION advertising account. John Fleming, 48 years old, is named Exec VP and Chief Merchandising Officer. Formerly a Target merchandising exec and Chief Marketing Officer at Wal*Mart since 2005. He led the failed Wal*Mart marketing campaign to win more affluent shoppers and the embarassing hiring/firing of the Ad agencies. Fleming will manage 4 of the 5 product areas. Pharmacy (the 5th) is not affected by the changes. Stephen Quinn, 47 years old, named Exec VP and Chief Marketing Officer. Fomerly a Pepsico Co. Exec. The two new appointments signal a return to more promotional marketing efforts to overcome past marketing and merchandising missteps at Wal*Mart and anemic sales growth. The new VP's will report to Eduardo Castro Wright, president of Wal*Mart's US unit since 2005 and under enormous pressure to turn things around (quickly) and prove to Wall Street analysts that Wal*Mart is still a growth company. Expect over 280 new Wal*Mart stores opening this year. And remodeling and expansion of hundreds of existing Wal*Mart stores. Don't expect to see fabric departments and fishes and/or aquariums at the new stores and even some existing stores. These are getting the ax. 110 MILLION shoppers stroll the Wal*Mart stores each week. In Chicago recently, over 25,000 applicants applied for 325 Wal*Mart jobs. Wal*Mart recently settled an overtime pay dispute lawsuit with its employees. Not that uncommon. Even the federal government had several. Wal*Mart recently adopted "flexible work scheduling" opting to have employees in the stores at peak times and needs rather than on fixed hourly work schedules. In the Super Bowl XL1 Wal*Mart newsapaper supplement, no vacuums were advertised for sale. As the song goes: Dum...da dum...dum. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/28/07 at 2:11pm Wal*Mart has "rolled back" prices on vacuums and floorcare products. http://www.walmart.com/search/browse-ng.do?ic=12_0&ref=125874.183562+500501.500682&catNavId=130306 TARGET is giving away $50 e-GiftCards on the purchase of ALL dyson products and only the top of the line Rhoomba iRobot Discovery. http://www.target.com/gp/browse.html/ref=sc_iw_r_1_0/?&node=320183011 Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 01/28/07 at 2:47pm Hi Carmine,nothing new going on here,manufactures sticking it to to the indy's again. [you know what i'm talking about] O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/28/07 at 7:07pm old-timer wrote:
Sad but true. I was an independent for over 40 years specializing in all vacuum makes and models, parts, repairs, and rebuilts. Always an authorized warranty sales and service dealer for several brands simultaneously. Even during the glory days of HOOVER. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/29/07 at 7:42am The usual vacuum suspects for sale in the weekly news ads. Just BEST BUY and CIRCUIT CITY making the vacuum ad news. BB has the dyson DC07 for $399, the HOOVER Elite Rewind bagless upright for $99, BISSELL Lift-off bagless for $179 and Eureka Maxima bagged for $39. No discounts. CC has the dyson DC07 for $399, the DC07 Animal for $499, the HOOVER WT 2 Extra Reach for $259 (with 20 foot hose add on and 8 inch hard floor brush), and the BISSELL Clean View Power Trak for $99. No interest for 90 days on floorcare over $99. No deals here either. Oreck opted out of vacuums this week in favor of Air Purifiers. He does give away the 2 in one stick vac as a promotion. Good advertising timing with the recent Ionic Breeze Air Purifier news and settlement. That's all folks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/31/07 at 7:37am The Kohl's semi-annual HOME SALE mail out catalogue (Feb 4 through Feb 13, 2007) will feature ONLY BISSELL floorcare products for sale. 4 bagless uprights including the HEALTHY HOME, Momentum, Velocity, and Lift-Off AND 4 BISSELL DirtLifters carpet cleaners starting at $129 up to $249. The catalogue includes a 15 percent discount coupon on ALL purchases from the catalogue. See Kohls.com. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/04/07 at 5:04pm HAPPY SUPER BOWL XL1 SUNDAY Slow Sunday sales advertisements for vacuums this week. Undoubtedly due to the "big game." But there are a few of note. BEST BUY has a nice line up: BISSELL HEALTHY HOME with a new price drop of $50 bringing the sale price to $249. No doubt taking the lead from Wal*Mart which recently did the same. And the old reliable Eureka BOSS Smart Vac (bagged) for $149 with a bonus: The power paw. This unit is one of BEST BUY's best sellers. And a Consumer Reports best buy for many years running. And dyson's two latest and greatest vacuums: The DC17 Absolute Animal for $549 and the DC16 Hand Held for $149. MSRP for both. Sorry, no dyson deals here. Two of HOOVER's Murderer's Row: The All Terrain Steam Vac for $299 and the WT 2 Surface Command for $265. Vacuums are conspicuously absent this week from CIRCUIT CITY. But, if all you got to sell are leftover 4 year old/new vacuums, why bother? Right? Save the advertising bucks for "NEW" stuff that sells. TARGET makes the showcase. The dyson DC07 Animal for $499 BEFORE a $50 GiftCard. My advice: Wait for another sale, maybe next month for President's Day. And hope for at least a $100 Giftcard. BISSELL's ProHeat DirtLifter for $169 BEFORE a $20 Giftcard. And the often maligned vacuum brand Dirt Devil with the Reaction Dual Cyclonic for $144. And if you prefer to really go on the cheap, cheap: The Dirt Devil Vibe bagless for $39. That's a price drop. TARGET's last in the roundup: The Eureka Altima with the Spinduster for $75: Another price drop. Looks like Eureka makes the lineup all around. Maybe due to Consumer Reports? But....it doesn't get the win for this week. NO.........................the winner is....................... ORECK. Yes indeed. Mr. Dave, standing tall in between his XL Classic for $299, with the "free" Compact canister at his feet, and the "free" Electrikbroom at his side. Giving ONE thumbs up and wearing a star studded Red, White and Blue tie. Mr. America of the vacuums! But there's more: A $100 Referral Reward for ORECK Parties. You go Dave! And now for the biggest football game of the season: The winner IS.................the best team: Either Da Chicago BEARS or the Indy Colts (by way of Baltimore in 1985). Defense versus Offense. And despite all the last minute football cliches: "You need to establish the run; It's all about momentum; Penalties make the all the difference"; the only one that counts on game day is: DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS. Its been that way in 86 percent of the Supers. The team that allowed the least number of points during the regular season won the big game 86 percent of the time. That would be the NFC BEARS with 255. The AFC Colts allowed a whopping 360. So the favored team should be the BEARS not the Colts. If the Colts win, as expected (by 7 points) by every TV radio news media sports announcer, commentator, and writer (except Mike Ditka), they will actually be pulling off one of Super Bowl history's biggest upsets. And this according to sports writer Allen St. James who writes the Column: By The Numbers. What do you expect? He writes for the Wall Street Journal. Enjoy the game. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by tiger21 on 02/05/07 at 12:58am Carmine, COLTS won and I am glad as any Hoosier fan should be. COLTS have been Indianapolis COLTS since 1983. Which is 23 years. BEARS is a GREAT team too. Seeing the way the game went I am glad how we did. Better luck next year. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/05/07 at 7:24am Hello Tiger21: Congrats on the win. Straight up AND with the spread! Allen St. James forgot the other football truism: GOOD OFFENSE BEATS GOOD DEFENSE. I noticed Mike Ditka was conspicuously absent from all the post game shows. He is loyal to his team. Thanks for the correction on the year. Memory isn't what it use to be and never was that good to begin with. I recall the Baltimore Colts left in the middle of the night. I hope you "cleaned up" with the COLTS win! Here's the good news for winners and losers. Legend has it that the most beloved and accurate Wall Street stock market predictor is based on the team that wins the Super Bowl. This year in an unusual twist Wall Street believers KNEW the market was destined higher. Why? Based on the legend, a win for one of the 16 "original" NFL teams or a National Football Conference expansion team signals a market gain for the year (Bullish indicator). While a win for one of the 10 AFL teams or an American expansion team predicts a decline (Bearish indicator). Since both the BEARS and the COLTS were in the National Football League prior to its 1970 merger with the American Football League stocks are headed up. This is the Wall Street equivalent of relying on Punxsutawney Phil (or another groundhog) to predict how long wintry weather will last. It has been accurate in 32 of 40 games. Giving it an accuracy rate of 80 percent. There have been seven other years when two original NFL teams faced off in the Super Bowl. Six times, the market as tracked by Dow Jones Industrial Average, went up. Giving it an accuracy rate of almost 86 percent. Excellent betting odds. Predictor or simple coincidence? So, Super Bowl winners and losers still have another chance to "clean up." Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/11/07 at 11:24pm With Valentine's Day on Wednesday, big box stores are not advertising vacuums for sale. Even the usual suspects like BEST BUY, CIRCUIT CITY, and TARGET have no vacuum sale offerings this week. Now iPOD's is a different story. Would you believe that in the Christmas quarter alone, 20 MILLION were sold ranging in price from $90 to $250. Vice vacuums which sell in the same price range and average 20 MILLION for the year. Two notable exceptions to the absence of vacuum ads are Oreck and Kohl's. Dave has a full pager in the Sunday discount coupon supplement for the XL Ultra, his favorite. Along with all the giveaways and NO PAYMENTS and INTEREST for a year for qualified buyers. KOHL's has 15 percent off all vacuums between Feb 14 and 19 including the iRobot Roomba Discovery for sale at $269. No deal but factoring in the discount and the price becomes $230. Not bad. Might make a sweet valentine vacuum for the Lady of the House. Or if you are inclined in a dyson way, the DC07 All Floors is $399 before the discount; $341 after. Not bad. Or if you want the latest and greatest dyson, the DC17 Absolute Animal is $549 before the discount; $468 after. Not too bad. Of course Bed Bath and Beyond is offering 20 percent off everything including vacuums and also dyson. 20 percent off beats 15 percent off. Some retail news. Circuit City is shuttering a number of its stores in 2007 and shuffling its management around. Needs to cut costs to stay competitive. Don't forget Valentine's Day Feb 14. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/16/07 at 7:52pm Several retailers are getting a head start to the President's Day sales. HOME DEPOT, SEARS, and Kohl's have sales in effect starting today and through Tuesday. Vacuums featured for sale by HOME DEPOT include the HOOVER Legacy line and the BISSELL HEALTHY HOME. Joining the ranks of Wal*Mart and BEST BUY, HOME DEPOT has reduced the BISSELL HH bagless is $249. SEARS is offering its usual array of bagged canisters and uprights at 20% off and the top of the line dyson DC17 Absolute Animal at $549. But SEARS says the dyson price is before "in-store savings." Kohl's takes a similar tact with dyson vacuums: Advertising a dyson "MAP friendly price" but saying "see the final price" if purchased. Take a look. http://www.kohls.com/main/bonus_buy_specialty_category.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=431439089&cmID=C432577647L62784U11944718X536174381 Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/19/07 at 7:49am Some good, not so good and down right bad Presidents' Day sales events. I cannot tell a lie, especially on Presidents' Day. Linen & Things offers up some Best Bets like the Roomba top of the line iRobot Discovery for $279 BEFORE a 20 percent discount: That's a final price of $224. Not bad. And the top of the line dyson DC17 Absolute Animal for $549 before 20 percent for a final price of $440. Beats all the other retailers' dysons' prices especially the old seasoned and sagging DC07 at $399. And rounding out the LNT sale: Two of their best sellers: The BISSELL BOT SPOT for $129 before 20% off: $100 a fair price. And the BISSELL ProHeat 2X for $199 before $40 off or $160. Decent price. And the LNT sale is good for a week: Feb 18-25. BEST BUY loses out to LNT's BEST BETS (or does it?). BB offers up the above BISSELL ProHeat 2X for $199. No deal, save $40 at LNT and buy for $160. No brainer. Same with dyson: The old guard DC07 All Floors for $399 and DC16 Hand Held for $149. No savings here. BUT wait: What's this? BEST BUY is taking a page from other retailers and advertising the MSRP dyson prices with the caveat: Before instant savings. What does that mean? That means go in and make the best deal you can if you want it. Show em the DC17 at LNT for $440; the DC14 Drive at Target for $410 and see if they don't drop the price on that 5 year old DC07 All Floors to the floor to get it out of inventory. But the secret is to talk to a store manager! The higher up the food chain, the better. Rounding out the lackluster sales at BEST BUY are the HOOVER All Terrain for $284, Eureka Bagless Ultima $89, and an array of BISSELL bagless for the usual everyday prices. No sales to brag about here. Especially for Presidents' Day. Just two days: Sunday and Monday. Circuit City is a let down too: dyson DC07 Animal for $499, and DC14 All Floors for $429. No deal. And the BISSELL ProHeat 2X Select for $249. If you don't need the hotter water, then the LNT BISSELL for $160 is a better deal. No big deals here except no interest until July 2008. Big deal. Two day sales here too. Target has the usual array and makes no big deal out of the Presidents' Day sale: Eureka Optima 431B for $55, BISSELL Velocity for $129 BEFORE a $20 Gift card, the dyson dual: DC14 Drive $459 BEFORE $50 Gift Card or $410 final price (worth a look along with the DC17 at LNT for $440). ANd the DC16 handheld for $149. That's just too much for a 5 minute cleaning quickie if its fully jolted. Week long as usual for Target stores. And bringing up the rear dressed in his patriotic garp: Mr. Oreck. Big quarter page ad for the XL Classic, Compact Canister, and Cordless Iron (free) for $299. 30 Day Risk free trial. AND $100 Referral Award. Time to think about an Oreck Spring Cleaning Party. HAPPY PRESIDENTS' DAY. Carmine D. PS: When you see that Maytag store sales from now on, take notice of the brand name and iconic emblem that is no more (at least with Maytag). |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/25/07 at 7:22am HSN had a full day and night of dyson sales: The DC07 Low Reach with play dyson Animal ($40 retail) for $409; the DC14 (model made exclusively for BEST BUY) with rug care kit and stiff round brush (retail for both is $68) for $399; DC16 Hand Held $149. Dave Simkus (sp?), Suzanne Runyan, and Shannon Smith. They did a good job but Dave, the dyson sales expert, messed up big time a few times. Although these demos are scripted, the spontaneity does lead to on air surprises from time to time. If you are quick and savvy enough to eye them. (Note the dust cloud when the dyson is dumped and the lady trying to hide the dirty pre-motor filter during the wash). Using the DC14, Dave overfilled the dirt bin with cat litter and coffee grinds. The mixture covered and blocked the air holes on the shroud. With all the stuff still in the bin, Dave went to carpet cleaning mode to remove the cat pet hair. About 50 swatches he placed on the rug's surface (not ground in). The dyson DC14 struggled to pick up the hair with several back and forth passes. And it never got all the hair up after some time (shades of CR and Which?). Lesson learned. When Dave demoed the DC07 several hours later, he reminded the audience (really himself) that in the previous demo with the dyson and cat hair, "there was no room left in the dirt bin to pick up the cat hair!" (Nice try Dave to recover.) Before the pet hair pick up, Dave smartly removed the dyson dirt bin after the cat litter and coffee grinds were inside, dumped half out to the fill line, and then did the cat hair demo. Better than before but still not the best. Can't compensate for a weak brush roll. Obviously dyson is unloading its 1st and 2nd generations of vacuums on HSN and offering better deals than the big box retailers for the same/similar models. If you use the HSN credit card (which you can apply for with the TV purchase) you have no interest and payments for 9 months from purchase. With the HSN dyson extras (i.e., the carpet care kit with the DC14 consists of dyzolv (for stains), zorb (for rug cleaning) the stiff round brush (used in the car care kit) and the zorb application tool) the MSRP on these dysons would generally cost at least $100 more. So $399 for a DC14 and $409 for the DC07 Low Reach and the play dyson beats most current retailers' dyson prices. Save the 20 percent off by Bed Bath and Beyond and Linens N Things, especially on the DC17 Absolute Animal for $440. Of course, no HSN sales pitch would be complete without the usual TV testimonials. And true to form there were a number of dyson users who called to praise their purchases. Sorry I can't include me. Also sold was the HOOVER Floormate for $134. It sells itself. The HSN and HOOVER sellers were just along to style and profile. I am a huge fan of the HOOVER Floormate. Especially for $134. But no HSN telephone testimonials for the HOOVER Floormate. I would have called. And maybe sneaked in some dyson comments too! Much discussion was made about the high prices for the dyson vacuums. Both by the HSN promoters and their testimonial callers. To down play the high prices, the TV sellers talked up the HSN flex plan payment option, the interest and payment free 9 months AND the 5 YEAR DYSON WARRANTY. That last option/statement was repeated more times by Dave than the famous dyson "NEVER LOSES SUCTION" claim. Which reminds me: How is Wal*Mart doing with sales of the dyson DC07 Original for $378 with a 2 year warranty? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/26/07 at 7:05am Despite the preoccupation with Oscars, there are some notable vacuum cleaner sales this week: BEST BUY is going with the old reliables and a new feature. The HOOVER Elite Rewind for $99; the Eureka Boss Smart Vac with the Power Paw for $149; and the HOOVER Steam Vac for $169. All 3 are among BEST BUY'S most coveted and sold. The new additions are the two Infinity models (teak and red) by Shark Euro-Pro for $199 and $249 before a $20 Gift and $30 Gift Card. Decent prices for these 2 newcomers sporting the claim: NEVER LOSES SUCTION (and I add due to 24 cyclones that are rewashable.) TARGET offers the stylish Dirt Devil Cone vacuums designed by Karim Rashid for $39. No worry about how they perform, they look elegant displayed in any room! And the Eureka BOSS mini super light. (Not Supralite, which is another Eureka lightweight). $35. And the seasoned BISSELL Lift Off for $169. Bringing up the rear for TARGET is the DC17 dyson Absolute Animal for $549. No discounts, no incentives, no some some. Full MSRP if you want it. Talking about BISSELL, seems that's all Wal*Mart has for sale along with SHOP-VAC. The BISSELL PowerForce "bagged" upright for $39 rated a Best Buy by Consumer Reports and the bagless PowerForce HEPA for $65 (That's a Rollback price!). And 8 gallon Shop-Vac Quiet Series Wet/Dry Vacuum for $44. Finally the Vacuum Oscar of the week goes to Mr. David Oreck. With a quarter page ad in the newspaper and full page color ad in the USA Weekend. Right opposite the Oscar Report. The Oreck XL Deluxe in all white with blue trim. FIVE YEAR GUARANTEE AND 3 FREE ANNUAL TUNEUPS. That's a $120. Plus free shipping, a $130 Cordless Iron and the Compact Canister Housekeeper for $165. All free with the purchase. And no interest or payments for one full year. And best of all Dave reclined length wise on an arm chair with 3 fingers up! (If you think that isn't comforatble, try it! You'll like it.) For those who don't understand David Oreck's sign language that stands for 3 Great ORECK Products. Sorry no price but if you call 1-800-547-0253 or visit www.oreck.com/usa or one of the local Oreck Clean Home Centers, I'm sure you can find out. I'd bet it's $299! That's a rap for this week! Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/26/07 at 4:44pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Sam's Club Stores reduced the price on the dyson DC14 Total Clean from $459 to $399. With a 5 Year Warranty. Wal*Mart and dyson are "dissing" the hoi polloi who would be inclined to shop at Wal*Mart and buy a dyson vacuum. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 02/26/07 at 6:21pm Hi, Though I had recommended a Kenmore Iridium, a friend of mine in Florida has ended up with a Dyson -- her husband's idea. It performs well enough but she doesn't "love" it. What influenced her husband toward the purchase was a promo going on that somehow contributes a rebate to a college fund for the kids. I don't whether this promo is generated by the vendor or the manufacturer but has anyone heard of this recently? Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/27/07 at 6:59am guess_who wrote:
Hello Venson: An excerpt from recent posts by M00seUK and Dyson Chris about dyson's launch of the DC18 and DC21 in Montreal, Quebec. The author of the excerpt is James Dyson explaining how the promo works in Canada: "Dyson Canada has grown to become Dyson's fastest growing subsidiary worldwide," confirmed James Dyson founder and the inventor of the company's patented cyclone technology. Dyson was in town to celebrate the company's anniversary and to launch a design award for Canadian design and engineering students. "My hope is that the Dyson Canada Design Competition will encourage young Canadian designers and engineers to think differently about how to find innovative solutions to every day problems - and will encourage and inspire our next generation of designers," said Dyson, who famously made thousands of design prototypes in his quest to develop the Dyson vacuum. The Dyson Canada Design Competition is open to Canadian design teams and individuals who are full-time students or who have recently graduated (within one year) from a recognized college, CEGEP or Canadian university. The company will accept design submissions from March 1 through to November 15, 2007 and application information is online at www.dyson.com. The winner of the Dyson Canada Design Competition will receive $5,000 in cash; an award, and a Dyson vacuum cleaner. The Canadian winner will be entered into the international James Dyson Design Award, with a prize fund of up to 10,000 pounds sterling." Dyson is worried about the lack of engineering students in some countries throughout the world. He is starting an engineering school in the UK for high school and/or college students which I believe is suppose to be completed soon (2008). The engineering scholarship complements the school and encourages more students to pursue engineering backgrounds. Although in today's world, dyson may want to be more generous with the student scholarship amounts. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/28/07 at 8:29am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
COSTCO Wholesale Corp has altered its return policy, aiming to alleviate the squeeze put on its profit margins by customers bringing back consumer electronics for full refunds. COSTCO will roll out the revamped policies in its 482 US locations over the next five weeks. The change limits to 90 days the time frame in which customers can return various consumer electronics for a full refund. This is a change from the unlimited grace period to return purchases for a full refund (the only exception has been the six-month deadline for computers). The unlimited time frame still applies to COSTCO merchandise other than consumer electronics. Some say even with the change COSTCO has the best return policy in the retail industry. COSTCO estimates that returns of consumer electronics pared eight cents a share from earnings last year when the company reported earnings of $2.30 per share. COSTCO also introduced an 800 number that customers can call to get answers to technical questions about their purchases. COSTCO Execs forecast that the number of stores in the US will double by 2010. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/05/07 at 7:36am The number ONE choice this week among all the big box retailers is dyson and in particular the DC07 All Floors. BEST BUY, Circuit City, Target, and Linens-n-Things all have this vintage 5 year old dyson for $399. But LNT and Bed Bath and Beyond are offering 20 percent off discount coupons through March 18 and 26 respectively. And LNT will throw in a $50 Gift Card. What's next? If the DC07 All Floors is not your style, LNT also has the DC07 Animal for $499 and the DC15 Ball All Floors for $499. But take advantage of the 20 discount and $50 Gift Card. Dave does it yet again. PARADE 3/4 page color ad. With a young lady hugging her Oreck XL Ultra. Last week it was White and Blue trim, this week it's black and blue trim. With the usual giveaways and 30 days, risk free in home trial. And a small photo of Dave with the words: "Nothing gets by an Oreck." You go Dave. And that's not all. Section A of the Sunday newspaper, 1/4 page b/w ad for the Classic XL for $299. Tauting Microban technology and using one third the electricity of any other vacuum brand which could save hundreds of dollars in energy costs over the life of the vacuum. And odds are a vacuum user will go through three other vacuums in the time that they own an Oreck XL Ultra. (Both claims are Dave's not mine). 10 year Warranty, 10 free annual services. For the Classic XL, $299 with a 3 year warranty and Cordless iron and 5 pound compact canister. With the 30 days risk free in home trial. As I stroll the neighborhoods of our 3400 dwellings at the Del Webb Community here in Sun City Aliante (not Sin City) I see over and over again 2 floorcare products in the garages: Oreck uprights and HOOVER Floormates. Even an occasional HOOVER Agility. I ask the homeowners (we old timers all love to sit out in the sun and/or walk our 4 legged friends) if they use their Oreck vacuums and HOOVER floor washers and what they think? Resounding "yeses" with "for years and years" and the best home product we ever purchased. After I leave, I'm sure they say: "Who was that grey haired man?" He can't be David Oreck. David Oreck is bald. Can't be James Dyson? He's a brit? Or is he? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 03/05/07 at 5:11pm Hey Carmine, Keep up the good work! Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 03/06/07 at 3:31pm Carmine are you out canvassing again. ;D O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/06/07 at 6:16pm guess_who wrote:
old-timer wrote:
Hello Venson, OldTimer: Funny you should ask. I'm thinking about a mobile vacuum shop to repair and sell. Parts and service for all makes and models. Do the quick repairs right in my truck on location in the neighborhoods. The harder ones (if I don't have the parts on hand in the truck) in the garage at home. Send out mailers to the areas I plan to canvass with my drive through times. Tell the people to be on the look out for my vacuum service truck when I'm in their area. I think this retirement community in Las Vegas is ideal for it. Any thoughts? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by VacOMatic on 03/06/07 at 11:35pm Mobile repair's done for other services (car repair, pet shampooing, locksmith, plumbing). So why not for vacuums ? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/07/07 at 8:24am VacOMatic wrote:
Interesting approach by Kohl's, noted for overly inflating regular every day prices. Mark up the MSRP ridiculously high, then run sales with mark downs up to 1/3. Then offer an additional 15 percent off. http://www.kohls.com/main/subcategory.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=223905033&bmUID=1173273010583 Even with the smoke, mirrors and subterfuge, the DC07 All Floors comes to $256 and the DC07 Animal $324. With a 5 year warranty, sure beats the dyson DC07 Original at Wal*Mart for $378 with a 2 year warranty. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/08/07 at 8:55am HOME DEPOT joins BEST BUY and Wal*Mart with price reductions on the BISSELL Healthy Home now also for $249. This was rated as number 10 in the March 2007 Consumer Reports ahead of the more expensive bagless upright models. And it has a turbo tool on-board. BISSELL also offers a $30 Mail in rebate. If HOME DEPOT doesn't have it, check out the BISSELL Web Site. Also on sale from today (March 9) through March 18, the dyson DC14 All Floors for $429 BEFORE a 10 percent discount. $387 is not bad but Linens-N-Things and Bed Bath and Beyond with 20 percent off MSRP probably is better. Not to mention the 15-55 percent off at Kohl's on all Floor Care and Rug Cleaners. Check the Web Sites for the stores near you to see if it has the model in stock and on sale. Also on sale at HOME DEPOT the HOOVER Empower bagless for $99. Not the best price on this popular seller which has been in the HOOVER line up since the spring of 2004. Other retailers may have it as low as $69. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 03/08/07 at 10:42am Hi Carmine, this is a very good idea[has been done by someone i know], used an old school bus,The only problem is that after a while,you have created a monster. Just take on what you can handle. Then you can always rent the bus out for sightseeing tours..... regards. O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/08/07 at 1:18pm Hello Old-Timer: I have another vacuum business idea and will message you privately. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/08/07 at 1:22pm old-timer wrote:
I love it. Sightseeing Bus Tours for all my "Soprano buddies" from NY & NJ in the Federal Witness Protection Program. Complete with gambling, food, entertainment and drinks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 03/08/07 at 4:01pm Then the windows would have to tinted to the max. ;D O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/08/07 at 6:27pm old-timer wrote:
No Sir. What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/09/07 at 8:56pm COSTCO has the HOOVER WT bagged Self-propelled on sale through April 30, 2007 for $217 BEFORE an $18 Rebate from HOOVER. Final cost $199. Comes with a one year supply of 3M Filtrette paper/cloth bags and the extension hose for a cleaning reach of 20 feet. THis vacuum is made in Mexico and has a ONE YEAR UNCONDITIONAL PRODUCT WARRANTY from HOOVER. Also has the UL and Good Housecleaning seals of approval. The GH seal allows a 2 year product replacement if the vacuum is defective. This model also comes with a turbo tool on board. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/10/07 at 8:33pm Fry's Electronics has 3 upright bagless vacuums on sale. The Euro-Pro Infinity (teal blue) for $169; the HOOVER Elite Rewind for $69 and the Eureka Ultima for $69. Interestingly the advertising claims for the EP-Infinity are: 24 cyclones with patent pending, never clogs and loses suction, and lifetime HEPA filter. One of the reasons I like the EP Infinity bagless uprights, despite bagless, is because the cyclones are washable. Unlike the more expensive bagless brand which specifically warns against washing (and subsequently clog with fine dirt and dust), the EP bagless cyclones will not, if washed as recommended. THe HOOVER and Eureka uprights are popular sellers with many of the big box retailers who sell them. Especially at $69 which is $30 below the current MSRP at most retailers. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/12/07 at 8:59am The vacuum sales this week are uneventful. The usual suspects and offerings: CIRCUIT CITY offers the 5 year old dyson DC07 All Floors and Animal for $399 and $499 BEFORE 10 percent savings AND with no interest for 90 days. Also the BISSELL ProHeat 2X for $249 before the 10 percent savings. You can do better. TARGET offers its same same. The dyson DC07 Animal for $499 with a $50 Giftcard. The BISSELL ProHeat for $169 with a $20 Giftcard. Dirt Devil Vibe for $45; BISSELL Flip it for $69 and Eureka Uno for $115. You can do better save the Vibe and Flip it. LOWE'S is more impressive. Full page floorcare ad featuring the Electrolux Oxygen 3 for $499. This is the the latest big winner from Consumer Reports. The BISSELL Healthy Home for $249. Don't forget the $30 mail-in rebate from BISSELL too. (If Lowe's doesn't have it, check out the BISSELL Web site. This model was rated number 10 by CR in March 2007 ahead of the more expensive bagless brand and models. The HOOVER All-Terrain Dual V for $299. HOOVER Elite bagless Rewind for $89; Eureka Maxima for $49 (another option to consider along with the Optima) at 14 pounds and 25 foot cord (but no turbo); and two BISSELL Deep Carpet cleaners for $89 and $159. LOWE'S is the winner for its presentation of the floorcare products. Having adopted the practice of stating the weight, cord length, and warranty periods along with all the other product descriptors. All retailers should do the same for their ads. Finally the best for last. Unfortunately not for vacuums but for industry goings-on. Both the Sunday Parade and the USA Weekend have full page ads by MAYTAG. Why? Product safety recall. Here's the verbage verbatim: "Select Maytag brand and Jenn-Air brand dishwashers liquid rinse-aid can leak from the dispenser and come into contact with the dishwashers internal wiring, which can short-circuit and ignite, posing a fire hazard." The ad lists model numbers for 12 Maytag and 5 Jenn-air dishwashers. "These models were sold at department and appliance stores and by homebuilders nationwide from July 1997 through June 2001." Number to call: 1-800-675-0535 and/or www.repair.maytag.com And finally at the end of the ad: "This recall is being conducted in cooperation with the US Consumer Product Safety Commission." Poster's Note: The CPSC is the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT Agency that recently fined HOOVER (Maytag's company at the time) $750,000 for not informing it within 24 hours of knowledge of a potential safety hazard for the HOOVER WT. It's nice to see that a US government agency finally is taking a partnership role with the industry to ensure US consumer safety rather than the usual "GOTCHA" mentality approach. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/17/07 at 8:33am A couple of retailers have St. Patrick's Day vacuum sales. Fry's Electronics has the Euro-Pro Infinity upright bagless for $199. This is the top of the line E-P red model with 24 cyclones that never clog (Fry's claim) and the pet care system. This is a $50 price reduction from the MSRP when the vacuum was intro'ed. SEARS has 3 floorcare products on sale for one day only: March 17. The Eureka Maxima for $49, a lightweight bagless upright with full size cleaning swath and tools on-board. The Kenmore bagged canister with power nozzle (with PN headlamp) for $149 and the BISSELL Quicksteamer for $89. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/19/07 at 8:36am Here's a recap of the Sunday vacuum ads starting with BEST BUY which features the NEW Electrolux Intensity (bagged) for $299. The features are "designed to maximize suction power while the telescoping handle reduces bending. Includes fingertip controls. Bag & Filter change indicator and automatic cord rewind. " It shows a fold down view for easy storage. BEST BUY also has the HOOVER ELite bagless for $99 and the BISSELL Total Floors Velocity for $149. TARGET has the usual array: Eureka Quick Up bagless for $24; the Eureka Optima for $55; the Dirt Devil Vibe for $75 BEFORE a $20 Giftcard; HOOVER Savvy for $199; and the dyson DC14 Drive for $459 BEFORE a $50 Giftcard. This is the TARGET dyson exclusive which comes with the car cleaning tool and flex crevice tool. KMart gets into the vacuum sales foray too this week. On sale are the Eureka Boss Supralite bagless for $36; the Kenmore canister for $39; the BISSELL Quicksteamer for $69; the Dirt Devil Glide (HEPA filiter; 30 foot cord; turbo tool) for $74; the HOOVER WT bagless for $159. Oreck has the premier ad space this week. Taking the whole full first page of the "SMart Source" magazine for its XL 2 Deluxe. A pic of Dave relaxing on a lounge chair saying: "Don't sweat it. My Oreck XL Deluxe does all the work so you don't have to." And a lovely young lady hugging her Oreck XL 2. Usual giveaways: Cordless iron; housekeeper canister; free shipping; in home no risk 30 day trial; 5 year guaranty; 3 free annual tune-ups; and no interest and payments for one year. But the best deal goes to Fry's Electronics for the BISSELL HEALTHY HOME for $189. Yes that's right! This $299 vacuum has a price reduction to $249, just like Wal*Mart, BEST BUY, LOWE's and others. AND also has a $30 BISSELL mail-in-rebate AND another $30 Instant Savings from Fry's for a net price of $189. Comes with a two year limited warranty. The vacuum deal of the week for bagless upright buyers. HAPPY VACUUMING TRAILS. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/20/07 at 8:20am On Wednesday March 21 KOHL's has all floorcare products on sale and is offering an additional 15 percent off for seniors. But check the prices carefully. KOHL's is noted for high MSRP and/or likes to mark up prices before the sale time (as it did recently with dyson prices) to lull the unknowing buyers into a false sense of savings. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/23/07 at 9:01am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
According to the Wal*Mart court filing, Ms. Roehm and Mr. Womack developed a romantic relationship over the course of several months. The suit claims the pair "inappropriately extended business travel in order to spend additional personal time with one another at Wal*Mart's expense," citing a hotel stay in Chicago and golfing outing in New York. The suit draws from internal emails tracing the relationship from early 2006 including ones culled from Mr. Womack's wife, Wal*Mart, and Interpublic Group's Draft FCB. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/23/07 at 9:05am Upright vacuum cleaner reviews for your reading pleasure: http://www.consumersearch.com/www/house_and_home/vacuum-cleaners/index.html Canister vacuum cleaner reviews also: http://www.consumersearch.com/www/house_and_home/canister-vacuums/index.html?source=adwords&gclid=CLLrgYLwi4sCFSnKggodbWQBKA Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 03/23/07 at 8:27pm Hi Carmine, Thanks. It's great that the GE's canister is still out there at a decent price. Any word about it's durability? Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/24/07 at 8:11am Hello Venson: The GE "bagged" canister made by Eureka has been a Wal*Mart exclusive since 2000. It's a seasoned veteran in the industry. It launched along with 2 uprights which have fallen by the wayside. Ironic that the canister survived and flourished while the uprights didn't. For $150 retail, it is on par with all the other vacuums on the market especially Eureka for reliability and durability. Eureka has one of the better reliability records from Consumer Reports which consistently rates the GE canister as one of the best sold. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Dyson DC18 on 03/25/07 at 6:38pm No Vacuum Cleaner Sale this week at Best Buy. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/26/07 at 8:18am Dyson DC18 wrote:
Likewise for most of the other big box stores. And no vacuum ads featured in the Sunday Week End magazines. But thanks to Circuit City and KMart there are some vacuums and floorcare products on sale. Starting with CC, the usual dyson Animal DC07 for $499; HOOVER SteamVac All Terrain for $299 and a newcomer to the CC reportoire: The BISSELL Healthy Home for $249. Remember the BISSELL Healthy Home has a $30 mail-in rebate from BISSELL so the final price is $219. Not too bad. KMart has the BISSELL PowerSteamer for $115 on a closeout sale. And the BISSELL Velocity for $119; also 2 Kenmores: The bagged canister for $139 (guacamole green is the official color and on sale at Sears stores for $149); and the bagged/bagless upright for $89. Oreck opted out of the weekend sales but continues to keep peppering the daily LV papers with adds for the XL Classic for $299 along with the usual giveaways: Cordless iron, 5 pound compact canister and 3 year warranty with a 30 day risk free in home trial. And David Oreck's classic sales slogan: "More Clean, Less Money!" Here's an Oreck Web site with Oreck vacuum reviews from people around the country (using their real names): http://www.oreck.com/testimonials/testimonials_xl_vac.cfm?keycode=DB480 That's all vacuum fans. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/29/07 at 8:54am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
On Friday and Saturday March 30 and 31, Kohl's is offering 50 percent off on "selected" floorcare products. Same caveat applies: Kohl's uses a high MSRP to calculate the mark down so buyer beware. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 03/29/07 at 9:33pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Here's an Oreck Web site with Oreck vacuum reviews from people around the country (using their real names): http://www.oreck.com/testimonials/testimonials_xl_vac.cfm?keycode=DB480 That's all vacuum fans. Carmine D.[/quote] Is anyone dumb enough to believe that Oreck did not delete the negative reviews. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/29/07 at 11:05pm HARDSELL wrote:
Hello HARDSELL: Considering it is an ORECK Web site, who would be [supply whatever words come to mind] to have to ask? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 03/30/07 at 7:47pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Hello HARDSELL: Considering it is an ORECK Web site, who would be [supply whatever words come to mind] to have to ask? Carmine D. [/quote] I was wondering why a (again you fill the blank) would reference the site. Unless, as usual they like to promote Oreck. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/30/07 at 9:25pm HARDSELL wrote:
Hello HARDSELL: No more than others who post and reference Web sites on the Forum which promote their favorite bagless brand with positive testimonials. I call it my FIRST AMENDMENT right of Freedom of Speech to promote bagged vacuums on the Forum. Forum readers can read and/or not read, which is their right. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/31/07 at 12:04am HSN on April 1 will host 4 hours of HOOVER featured products for Home Solutions and Innovations beginning at 12 midnight and throughout the day ending at 10 PM (ET). Check your local listings for the details. Carmine D. PS: No, not an April Fool's folly. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/31/07 at 8:36am A couple of noteworthy vacuum sales. SEARS has a one day sale Saturday March 31 only. Featured are 3 SEARS Kenmore models: The cheap canister for $39 (bagged), the Kenmore Progressive (white) bagged canister for $279 and the SEARS bagless upright Progressive for $279. The two SEARS models for $279 were rated NUMBER ONE in the canister and number 3 in the upright categories by Consumer Reports in March 2007. And the cann, I believe, is the subject of the Mother/Daughter vacuum buying thread posted by Quess Who (Venson) titled: Sucking it up at home. Fry's Electronics has two HOOVER models on sale from March 30 thru April 3. The Elite bagless Rewind and the SteamVac Upright Carpet Cleaner. Both for $79. The latter is a scaled down version of the Agility and preceded the Agility to market. The SteamVac upright carpet cleaner is as much a vacuum as a SteamVac. Marketed primarily for smaller and harder to clean carpeted areas likes steps and landings. And for quick spot cleaning. I call it a HOOVER FloorMate but for carpets! Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 03/31/07 at 10:31am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Hello HARDSELL: No more than others who post and reference Web sites on the Forum which promote their favorite bagless brand with positive testimonials. I call it my FIRST AMENDMENT right of Freedom of Speech to promote bagged vacuums on the Forum. Forum readers can read and/or not read, which is their right. Carmine D. [/quote] Freedom of speech is wonedrful, no matter how misleading the speaker may be. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/31/07 at 11:17am HARDSELL wrote:
Hello HARDSELL: You said it all and I rest my case. I like to quote a very famous line from Bishop Fulton J. Sheen whose cause for sainthood is with the Vatican: "The truth is the truth even if no one believes it and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it." Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 03/31/07 at 2:38pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Hello HARDSELL: You said it all and I rest my case. I like to quote a very famous line from Bishop Fulton J. Sheen whose cause for sainthood is with the Vatican: "The truth is the truth even if no one believes it and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it." Carmine D. [/quote] No one has called you a liar. Just misleading. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 03/31/07 at 7:52pm HARDSELL wrote:
Your welcome. My pleasure. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Dyson DC18 on 04/01/07 at 11:15am It's all about Dyson this week at Best Buy. Nice ad.... |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/02/07 at 10:08am Dyson DC18 wrote:
Very nice and the kudos winner for the week. 3 dyson models featured: The new DC18 Slim for $469, the DC16 Hand Held for $149; and the DC07 ALL Floors for $399. Circuit City has the HOOVER Rewind Elite for $99 and the dyson DC07 Animal for $499. No deals. CC earlier this week announced layouts and cuts of 3,400 store employees as a cost cutting measure. That's 8 percent of the workforce. And they replace the employees with lower paid workers and contract out more of its information technology operations. Sounds like the Federal government's modus operandi. And we all know how that has worked. Brain drain and brain outsourcing. Now we really know what's meant by "No brainer." CC suffers from the same malady as Linens-N-Things: Old out of date stock. Nice to see the BISSELL Healthy Home and HOOVER Elite Rewind added to CC repertoire. DC07 Animal for $499? Come on guys! Really? Give me a break. If the vacuum buying public hasn't already purchased a 5 year old model for full MSRP what makes you think they will now? After all these years? If your marketing and products were better, maybe you wouldn't have to cut your best and brightest employees! KMart has the Eureka bagless Maxima for $54, the DD Dynamite for $44; the DD Vision canister bagged and bagless for $89 and the HOOVER Steam Vac 5 rotating brush Spin Scrub for $179. The HOOVER Steam Vac competes with the HSN product price offered over the weekend of $149 before shipping and handling. Kudos go to Maytag and the Consumer Product Safety Commission for full page size ads in the PARADE and the USA Weekend for the safety and recall notice. Government and industry working together to ensure consumer safety. What a concept, as Robbin Williams would say! Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/06/07 at 8:16am SEARS has a 2 day sale on two vacuums: Friday and Saturday April 6 and 7. THe SEARS Kenmore bagged canister for $149, the quacomole green which was the subject of a thread by Venson on the Forum called "Sucking it up at home".... and the Dirt Devil Featherlite bagged upright for $39. Surprising to see DD on sale by SEARS! Fry's Electronics has refurbished DD Breeze bagless upright vacuums for sale for $39. Refurbed to original specs. Also a liteweight upright. Let's see: For $469 a vacuum buying customer can buy 12 of the DD Featherlites and/or Breeze vacuums! And 3 SEARS Kenmore canisters and still have money left over! Interesting! Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Dyson DC18 on 04/08/07 at 8:30am Two weeks in a row and Best Buy features the Dyson DC18.... Looks like another good week for Dyson. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/08/07 at 8:48am Dyson DC18 wrote:
Hello Chris: I doubt that many new vacuums were sold during Holy Week (the week leading up to Easter Sunday). And the reason in part that BEST BUY has a dyson encore for the DC18 Slim, which from last week to this week is now called a lightweight? Why do vacuums get overlooked during Holy Week? People are pre-occupied with Easter related stuff, school breaks, family gatherings, church activities and meals. The clean up and new vacuum sales come in the weeks after Easter. IMHO. I almost missed the dyson DC18 which is squeezed in with the Whirlpool and LG laundry sales. However the BISSELL Cleanview 11 upright bagless for $62 is the eye catcher. BTW the BISSELL only weighs 15 pounds if I remember right. Business news wise it has been a good week for BEST BUY, which unlike it's smaller rival Circuit City, reported good 4th quarter earnings and sales. Circuit City did not (see post from April 2 above which talks about worker layoffs and cuts). Many analysts thought the poor showing of Circuit City (due particularly to the lower big screen TV prices) would affect BEST BUY. But BEST BUY proved them wrong. For many reasons including the "Geek Squad" and recent store expansions (while CC is trying to catch up). A new store is even opening shortly in N. Las Vegas. More to follow. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/09/07 at 8:26am In addition to BEST BUY with the DC18 dyson-lite for $469 and BISSELL CleanView 11 for $62 (a savings of $22 from MSRP), several other retailers have vacuum deals this week. CIRCUIT CITY stores, struggling with its competitor BEST BUY, to stay above water and with a marketing malady of selling out of date and old products, offers the DC18 Slim for $469, the BISSELL HEALTHY HOME for $249, and the HOOVER All Terrain Steam Vac for $299. NO deals on the dyson-lite but 10 percent off the HOOVER and BISSELL. ORECK, after a hiatus of several weeks probably due to the Easter season, even advertised its XL21 in a huge quarter page Saturday ad with $100 trade in allowance off the price. Plus the usual giveaways with the XL21: 21 free annual "tune-ups", the Compact 5 pound canister, 21 year warranty, and 30 day in home risk free trial. Welcome back Dave. Sorry Dyson Chris but the Kudos winner this week for vacuum sales is not BEST BUY but KOHL's with EVERYTHING on sale from April 11-16. After Easter! Offering 15, 20, and 30 percent off EVERYTHING in the store and on-line for using the KOHL's charge card. And it has some nice floorcare offerings: The Eureka upright bagless Altima for $89; the BISSELL Powersteamer for $99; the BISSELL Momentum for $99; Eureka bagged Boss Smart Vac (the stalwart of the big box stores) for $149; the dyson DC17 for $549; the Dirt Devil Kone designer hand held vacuum for $39; the iRobot Roomba Discovery for $279; the BISSELL little green cleaner for $69; the Euro-Pro stick sweeper for $69; the HOOVER FloorMate (with the revolving brush) for $129; the BISSELL ProHeat deep cleaner for $199; and the best for last: The Rug Doctor Mighty Pro for $699 recently the subject of a thread on the Forum. And remember all the above KOHL's prices are BEFORE the 15, 20, and 30 percent off on EVERYTHING. Now KOHL's is talking turkey, mash potatoes and gravy for vacuums. Check your mail for the KOHL's sales catalog and the amount of savings. We've got 20 percent off, but my lovely daughter has 30. As usual, Mother and daughter and grand daughters will head to the women's clothes (apt. 9 in the vernacular). But if Papa can save 20-30 percent off the Rug Doctor that's huge. Might even induce me to start a local rug cleaning business in Sun City Aliante? ;) HAPPY VACUUMING TRAILS. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Dyson DC18 on 04/09/07 at 8:51pm Oh my! Look at those prices on Kohl's website. http://www.kohls.com/main/subcategory.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=217776031&bmUID=1176166053389 |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/10/07 at 8:47am Dyson DC18 wrote:
KOHL's inflates its MSRP, especially with the dyson product line. Most of the dysons shown are not in the stores. Just on-line. And most KOHL's stores don't stock dysons on the the shelves (and its not because of pilferage.) The stores usually have a limited selection of display models with "chits" that you carry to the check out counter. There a call will be made to retrieve the desired model. If you're lucky, 30 minutes later (on a good day) you walk out with your dyson purchase. KOHL's MSRP are too pricey unless you combine with a 15, 20, 30 percent off sale. I think Bed Bath and Beyond is a much better venue for dyson purchases if a buyer is so inclined. They usually have a 20 percent off every month in concert with the standard industry MSRP. And they carry the latest dysons in stock and will match competitors' sales prices. Still, KOHL's gets MY Kudos for the week. Not because of its dysons on sale. No. The diverse array of ALL floor care products on sale in conjunction with the 15, 20, and 30 pefrcent off. And its after Easter! ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/11/07 at 1:59pm SEARS joins the sales foray with the largest sale of the season and the year. Thursday April 12-Saturday April 21. The usual SEARS models: The small bagged cann for $35; the SEAR quacomole green bagged cann for $129 (a topic of a thread on the Forum and an encore appearance (the first time around the price was $149); the Eureka bagless Maxima for $49 and last but not least: HOOVER EmPower bagless for $79 and the HOOVER WT bagged Self-propelled for $199. The EmPower comes with a power hand tool. The WT with the 20 foot extension hose and power tool. And these are the lowest SEARS prices this year. That's all folks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/16/07 at 8:48am Dyson DC18 wrote:
Looks like BEST BUY decided against a 3-peat. Opting instead to "revert" to the DC07 for $399. And who can blame BEST BUY. These are still "leftovers" from the days of the fall out between Wal*Mart and dyson over the DC07 All Carpet. After Wal*Mart scrubbed the DC07 All Carpets excluz model, (because dyson was trying to tell it how to run its sales). Dyson had to eat a bunch of Wal*Mart DC07 All Floors. And the stock got "shuffed down" BEST BUY's throat. That was over a year ago and BEST BUY still has them in inventory. BEST BUY also has the Eureka Smart Vac (bagged) for $149, and why not? It was just selected as the most reliable vacuum on the US market by Consumer Reports in the May 2007 issue after an extensive survey of vacuum users. And the BISSELL Momentum bagless for $99; and the Eureka Maxima bagless for $59. Talk about "reverting,"CIRCUIT CITY has the dyson DC07 Animal for $499 and the HOOVER Elite Rewind for $89. TARGET has the Eureka Boss mini bagless "lightweight" for $35. And KMart, back in the vacuum sales foray, with the BISSELL ProHeat 2X deep cleaner for $199 (good price); the cordless BISSELL GoVac for $19 (a 50 percent savings); and from least to most expensive: The Dirt Devil Breeze for $44; the DD Swivel Glide for $69; the BISSELL Momentum for $99; and the HOOVER WT bagless for $159. ALL BISSELL products are on sale at KMart. Kudos this week go to "THE MAN" (vacuum man) David Oreck. After taking an Easter reprieve, ORECK is back in the dailies with quarter page ads for the XL21 (as in 21 year warranty) AND the Sunday Smart Shopper with a full page ad for the XL. Both ads feature the Davster and his machine. Looking younger than others in the industry half his age. And finally I should add that this old vacuum man has an opportunity to put the new ORECK XL to work in my new home for the low price of $149 through a special sales offer from the Humane Society of the US. That's right. HSUS and Oreck are partnering in a special sale to pet lovers (count me in) on the XL. With a one year warranty. My dear Wife is XL-static. A long time ORECK fan, she fell in love with the 8 pound "lightweight" vacuum the first time she used it years ago. Now, she'll finally have one. BTW, my dear Wife used the dyson DC18 Slim at SEARS recently during our visit. ORECK easily won the buy decision....performance and price make the buying difference every time. HAPPY VACUUMING TRAILS........... Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/18/07 at 11:36pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Add two more vacuums to the SEARS sales for the next 3 days only. The HOOVER Foldaway bagless upright for $55 and the Kenmore Magic Blue bagged canister for $69. Both at the lowest prices of the season. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/21/07 at 8:41am For all who appreciate TV ads for vacuums and floorcare products take special note of the new BISSELL SpotBot ad. It's a first prize winner. It incorporates all the elements of a top notch TV ad and product promo. The best I've seen so far. Congrats to BISSELL for a first class TV commercial. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/23/07 at 8:43am A nice array of big box store floorcare sales this week to share. First, this must be the break out week for the dyson DC18 Slim. Several retailers have it advertised for $469 and no discounts (yet). Never made it as an "indy" exclusive through June. BEST BUY is absent this week for vacuum sales opting instead to get an early Easter start on the sale. How's that working for them? KOHL's has a sale from April 25-28 and some vacuum deals with $20 mail-in rebates. THe HOOVER WT Supreme for $99 after the rebate. I paid $150 for this model in August 2006. It's the best carpet cleaner and groomer for my Mohawk wool rugs that I've found so far. And it has the embedded dirt finder. So if it's clean, and you get the green light (to go) you can move onto the dirty rug areas. BISSELL bagless Lift-off for $149 after the rebate (Beats the LOWE's price). And the BISSELL Healthy HOME for $229 after the rebate. Shop around and you can do better on the HH. And the BISSELL ProHeat Clearview and ProHeat 2X for $149 and $229 respectively. (You can do better on the ProHeat 2x from TARGET this week). And the HOOVER SteamVAc ALL TERRAIN for $259. I think you can shop for better prices. These are the features. Buried in the miscellaneous ads so small you can hardly see is a dyson vacuum ad. Entire stock 20-50 percent off. But no prices. And the DC07 All Floors and Animal illustrated. Caution with dyson sales at KOHL's. Usually the sale price is the MSRP at most other big box retailers. And you have to shop the store location. Sometimes dyson model prices vary from store to store. TARGET has it's Dirt Dirt Vibe bagless for $45; the BISSELL Velocity for $129 and a $20 Giftcard; THe dual cyclonic Dirt Devil bagless Reaction for $149; the BISSELL ProHeat 2x for $199 plus a $20 Giftcard. (Beats the KOHL's price). And last but not least the dyson DC18 Slim for $469. KMART has the Dirt Devil EAsy Steamer for $89 with a free bottle of floor cleaner. And the DD REaction for $159. (TARGET beat the price). And the Eureka BOSS lite bagless for $37. CIRCUIT CITY struggling to compete with the big box retailers has the BISSELL Power Trak for $99 and the dyson DC14 for $429 before 10 percent savings. It appears the DC07's are finally sold out and/or CC is trying to see if the latter and later model sells better. I'd opt for the latter (no pun intended). Like Jimmy P the OT says, and I'll modify slightly, DC07's are like wood burning stoves: Everybody who wanted one bought it already. The bad thing about going the big box route for the vacuum purchases, no trade in to upgrade to the latest and greatest. And of course after you plunk your big money down at the big box retailers and the product needs parts and repairs, where do you go? The indy's...that's right. And if you're not one of their regulars and need the part, you going to pay the piper. If you can get it. I'd save it for my regulars if push comes to shove. Business is business. Finally, LOWE's has an array of BISSELL products for sale too with 20 percent off. The Quick Steamer for $99; ProHeat for $169; LiftOff for $169; SPotBOt for $119 and SpotLIfter for $39. And a feature ad on the DC18 dyson lite for $469. Finally, while hitting the daily weeklies with quarter page ads for the XL21, David Oreck decided to have a full page ad in the Sunday PARADE for his XL Tower and Table top Air Purifiers. You go Dave. Let's see how your XL works on my new wool Mohawk carpets and maybe I'll fork over some bucks for an Oreck Air Purifier (with the dear Wife's permission). The big winner this week has to be BISSELL with its products and particularly the rug cleaners. Apparently all the big box retailers have the same mindset: Sring Cleaning after Easter. HAPPY RUG CLEANING DAYS............. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/24/07 at 11:11pm FWIW: Recent List of Splise top 10 Uprights: http://www.spliseindex.com/Vacuum+Cleaner/subClasses.html?coreProductTypeId=63&productTypeFilter=filter And canns: FWIW a recent list of top 10 canns: http://www.spliseindex.com/Vacuum+Cleaner/subClasses.html?coreProductTypeId=64&productTypeFilter=filter&gclid=CJzOjOfw3IsCFQL2ggod6wa0cQ Big winner for uprights is one of my favorites the HOOVER bagged Tempo for $60. Also rated consistently by Consumer Reports in the TOP 10. Most recently in March 2007 as number 8. And the most popular canister vacuum brands: http://www.spliseindex.com/Vacuum+Cleaner/brandsVC.html?coreProductTypeId=64& Most popular upright vacuum brands: http://www.spliseindex.com/Vacuum+Cleaner/brandsVC.html?coreProductTypeId=21& Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/26/07 at 8:43am Ms. Helen Walton, the matriarch of the Walton family, died last Thursday of natural causes at the age of 87. May her soul rest in peace. The Walton family has held sway over the the stores for 45 years through a 41 percent ownership in the stock through a family partnership (valued currently at $81 BILLION based on a stock price of $48 plus) of which the late Ms. Walton held over 8 percent. The family announced that the stock she held will be donated away to charities over the next several years decreasing the family ownership to 33 from 41 percent. This according to some analysts is a good thing for investors. Sam Walton, her husband and Wal*Mart's founder, died in 1992. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/26/07 at 10:41pm In May, BEST BUY stores will resume selling a full line of Maytag appliances. In early 2005, as Dyson Chris pointed out at the time on this Forum, BEST BUY stopped carrying Maytag washers and refrigerators because it said consumers preferred other brands. In April, retailer Lowe's Cos. began selling Amana-brand appliances, a line which Whirlpool acquired along with Maytag. Overseas demand for Whirlpool appliances may see it through the USA housing slump. WP Q1 reports surprised Wall Street analysts with results that were 40% higher than estimates bolstered by operating profits that doubled in Latin America, Europe, and Asia operations. The better than expected results were an indication that WP's acquisition of Maytag Corp, its large ailing competitor, a year ago is reaping benefits. Analyst Laura Champine (Morgan Keegan) said the fact that WP reaffirmed its 2007 earnings outlook despite the down US housing market is "really substantial." She said: "You are starting to see signs of cost synergies" from the WP--Maytag merger. WP restated its 2007 per share projection of $8-$8.50. WP shares jumped 14 percent on the news to $102.85. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/28/07 at 7:47am SEARS has a one day Saturday only sale today April 28. The floorcare features are the Kenmore Progressive canister (bagged) for $249 (red); the Dirt Devil Featherlite bagged upright for $39; the Kenmore canister bagged for $39; BISSELL Quicksteamer for $89; BISSELL Velocity bagless for $119; and finally the DC14 dyson advertised for $429 but with the claim: Lower price in store. Fry's Electronics has the Eureka Altima Bagless upright for $79. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Dyson DC18 on 04/29/07 at 12:07pm [quote author=Carmine_Difazio link=1128267837/520#524 date=1177641666]In May, BEST BUY stores will resume selling a full line of Maytag appliances. In early 2005, as Dyson Chris pointed out at the time on this Forum, BEST BUY stopped carrying Maytag washers and refrigerators because it said consumers preferred other brands. Carmine, I read the press release the other day about Best Buy and Maytag. Now the new Maytag Front Load washing machine is made by Whirlpool instead of Samsung. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/29/07 at 10:07pm You're right--along with the Whirlpool earnings report. With 70-80 percent of the washer market, WP has a lock on the sales. The merger was good for WP and obviously good for Maytag. You probably know the problems that Samsung has been experiencing too from the news and financial reports. Have you seen the IRobot ads? Now offering a 30 day free home trial before purchase. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/30/07 at 7:53am Several big box retailers with vacuums for sale this week. BEST BUY has the dyson DC18 Slim still posing as a lightweight. But no deals: $469. How's that working for sales? Haven't seen a DC21 for sale since inception in Feb 2006 and have't seen a review for it (other than mine on the Forum). A new entree: the HOOVER WT 2 "bagged" for $229. With turbo tool on board. The Eureka SmartVac Upright for $149 and the HOOVER Elite Rewind for $99. CIRCUIT CITY has the DC07 Animal for $499 before 10 percent savings in store. THe BISSELL HEalthy Home for $249 (before 10% off). Look for the BISSELL $20 rebate too. And the HOOVER WT bagless for $159 (before 15% off). KMart joins in with THe BISSELL Momentum bagless upright for $99. Little green BISSELL portable deep cleaner for $69 and SpotBot for $129. (Look for the deals on these BISSELL's too. THe Shark bagless stick for $39; the Eureka Maxima bagless lightweight upright for $49; AND the Sears Kenmore bagged canister for $149 (the quocomole green). ORECK skipped Sunday and went with the dialies including Saturday. Dave pitches his favorite the XL21 with the big bennies: 21 year Warranty, 21 free annual tune-ups, $100 trade in allowance; and the giveaways: canister. Proudly announcing over 450 Oreck Clean Home Centers across America with Dave's face and hand showing Oreck's Number 1. That's all folks. No real winners this week EXCEPT "bagged" vacuums which seem to be getting more sales space over bagless in the $150 and above price range. HAPPY CLEAN CARPET VACUUMING TRAILS.................. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Dyson DC18 on 04/30/07 at 10:46am So far all the reviews on the DC18 and 21 are 5 out of 5 stars on Amazon US and the UK website. HSN 5 of 5 on the DC21. So far the reviews have been positive. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/30/07 at 10:54am Hello Chris: Didn't Amazon initially rate the DC16 hand held it's best selling floorcare product? There is even an industry expression for the sales practice: It's called "pump" and "dump." Overinflate the praise, sell the product out and then get out. Who gets hurt? The trusting buyers. Caveat Emptor. The real product truth comes 6-9 months after the launch and new purchases. Then the real buyers and users are finally heard. Too late to keep the big box retailers from getting the profits. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/01/07 at 9:50pm Dyson is offering $50 mail-in-rebates on the purchase of any dyson upright valid May 6-15, 2007 in stores only. Check local retailers and see rebate form for details. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by D.E.P. on 05/03/07 at 4:59am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Carmine, I could not find anything about the rebate on the Dyson Website, or on the websites of Target, LNT, BBB or Sears.... Where did you find out about the rebate? Thanks in advance, Dan |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/03/07 at 7:48am D.E.P. wrote:
Carmine, I could not find anything about the rebate on the Dyson Website, or on the websites of Target, LNT, BBB or Sears.... Where did you find out about the rebate? Thanks in advance, Dan[/quote] Hello Dan: Try KOHL's Stores. LNT and BBB are sparse and non-existent with new dyson models. I haven't seen the DC17, DC18 and/or DC21 advertised by either of them yet. I don't know if they even carry them yet. I think the 20 percent off coupon by these retailers on dyson products may have strained dyson business relations with these chains. Maybe some one else who knows will share the latest developments. (Matt mmc you still lurking?). Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by D.E.P. on 05/03/07 at 11:05am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Carmine, I could not find anything about the rebate on the Dyson Website, or on the websites of Target, LNT, BBB or Sears.... Where did you find out about the rebate? Thanks in advance, Dan[/quote] Hello Dan: Try KOHL's Stores. LNT and BBB are sparse and non-existent with new dyson models. I haven't seen the DC17, DC18 and/or DC21 advertised by either of them yet. I don't know if they even carry them yet. I think the 20 percent off coupon by these retailers on dyson products may have strained dyson business relations with these chains. Maybe some one else who knows will share the latest developments. (Matt mmc you still lurking?). Carmine D.[/quote] Hi Carmine, All of the LNT & BBB stores near me have the DC16, DC17, DC18, & DC21 - I will have to stop by at lunch and see if any of them have the form in the stores - They usually post all the rebate forms on boards at the front of the store, so I will check... If I can't find the forms at BBB or LNT I will stop by Kols. I know that Target has the Dc16, DC17, & DC18 on the shelves and will check there if I find nothing at the other three... Thank you for your help, Dan |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/03/07 at 1:22pm Hello Dan: My pleasure. LNT received the same criticism as Circuit City: Old stock and no new models for sale. The last LNT dyson sale I saw advertised was the end of 2006 and it was for all vacuum makes and models (about 24 floorcare products) WITH the typical 20 percent off. It featured the DC14 (an old model, no DC16 and no DC17 which were several months old at the time of the advertised sale) with the 20 percent off AND a $50 Gift card (just on the DC14). The DC07 All Floors and Animal also shown for $399 and $499 before the 20% off. The sale also included no interest payments for 6 months on all vacuum purchases of $200/more. Maybe this was a way to clear out the DC07 and DC14 stock before loading up on the DC17. I can't recall a recent BBB dyson sale advertised either. It could be the difference in coasts for the stores and brands too. But I would have thought with the new dyson launch, and Easter, both retailers would have advertised dyson sales. Target, Sears, Kohl's, BEST BUY, even Circuit City have. Not LNT and BBB. Maybe one of the dyson insiders/experts can shed more light on the subject. Good luck on your quest. Personally and professionally, I may buy the DC18 but not for $469 and/or $419. If I can secure for 20 percent off and a $50/100 Giftcard too, I may take the plunge and splurge for the high price. Forget the DC21. Too much price and too little to offer. Same with the DC16. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/04/07 at 8:24am A couple of sales still going and/or in effect. KOHL's is wrapping up its last 3 days of a sale, Thursday, Friday and Saturday May 3-5. A couple of worthy considerations: The HOOVER WT Supreme for $119 before $20 HOOVER Mail-in rebate. $99. A buy. I paid $150 in August 2006. And the BISSELL ProHeat 2X for $229 before $20 Mail-in rebate. BISSELL's top of the line deep cleaner. SEARS has a two day sale for Friday and Saturday. The usual suspects: Dirt Devil bagged upright for $39; Kenmore bagged canister for $39; Kenmore Progressive bagged canister for $249: The Red model; Kenmore Quickclean bagless upright for $89 with a retractable cord and finally one of HOOVER's dream team: The SteamVac with Spinscrub for $179. Shop and save. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/05/07 at 7:41am Two more retailers with sales: For Mother's Day, Sunday May 13, Wal*Mart has the BISSELL PowerTrak Cyclonic bagless upright for $89. (May 6-12). Frys Electronics (for Friday May 4-Tuesday May 8) is selling the Eureka Maxima 3 Quart No Touch Dust bag system upright for $44. This model weighs about 13 pounds. Don't forget Mother's Day (which comes before Father's Day). ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/07/07 at 8:19am If you can't find a vacuum on sale this week for Mother's Day you're not looking. Sales here, sales there, sales everywhere, especially on dyson vacuums. KOHL's has the $50 mail-in rebate on any full size dyson upright, INCLUDING the lightweight DC18 Slim ;) , and the prices are the regular MSRP not the inflated MSRP. So the DC07 All Floors is $399 (before rebate); DC18 is $469 (before rebate) and the DC17 Absolute Animal is $549 (before rebate). Get's better. A familiar brand this week among the big box retailers (along with dyson) is the iRobot. Not to be outdone on Mother's Day by an ordinary human powered vacuum, iRobot and just about all the big box retailers are offering a 2 for 1 special. Buy the Rhoomba Discovery (iRobot's top of the line) for $279 at KOHL's and get the iRobot Dirt Dog (by mail) free. That's a $130 MSRP product. But there's more from KOHL's. HOOVER, BISSELL and Rug Doctor rug cleaners on sale. Dirt Devil Kone Hand Held. BISSELL Spot Bot (look for the rebate too). And the BISSELL Healthy Home bagless upright and HOOVER WT 2 bagless Surface Command for $249 (look for the BISSELL rebate). TARGET is offering a $75 GIFTCARD free with the purchase of selected dyson vacuums: DC07 $399; DC14 Drive $459; DC07 Animal $499; and the DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. BEST BUY let's you down: DC07 for $399 (BUT before savings). What does this mean? Have to go into the store to see. And the Eureka bagged Maxima for $39 (3 quart no touch dust bag system). Circuit City too has the iRobot special offer. Buy the Discovery for $279 and get the Dirt Dog for free. The DC07 Animal for $499 before 10 percent savings; one of the HOOVER dream team products, the All Terrain for $299 before 10 percent savings and the BISSELL bagless Clean View for $99 before 10 percent off. Not done yet. Just getting started. Linens-N-Things has the iRobot offer too. But the Scheduler and Scooba for $299 and the free Dirt Dog. And don't forget the 20 percent off coupon. But wait: dysons on sale too: DC07 All Floors and Animal $399 and $499 before 20 % off AND includes free the 3 piece attachment kit: flex crevice tool, oval utility brush, and matress tool. SEARS get's into the vacuum sale too with the iRobot offer, DC14 Complete $429 (CLOSEOUT which means let's make a deal); DC18 Slim $469; HOOVER Foldaway $59; Kenmore bagged progressive cann for $249; and Kenmore Magic Blue cann for $79. KMart too with the Eureka Boss Superlite for $39, bagged Kenmore cann for $39; Dirt Devil Dynamite bagless upright for $44; Dirt Devil Vision bagless cann for $89 and HOOVER STeam Vac Spin Scrub for $179. ORECK passed up the Sunday sales. BUt huge ad in the Saturday main section for the XL Ultra top of the line. Cordless iron. 5 pound Super Deluxe Compact canister. Cordless Hand vacuum. 10 year warranty (it will last 30); 10 free annual services; and 30 day risk free trial. Fry's Electronics has the HOOVER Elite for $79. Conspicuously missing from the dyson sales this week: DC14 All Floor and Animal models, DC15 Ball models, and also absent are the NEW DC21 Stowaway cann (must be stowed away some where) and 9 month old DC16 Hand Held. Which reminds me: I think I know the fate of the DC16 and found another use for it. Free giveaway with the purchase of a new dyson. Thank you iRobot for a clever marketing idea. So who wins this week's sale venue? Dyson? iRobot? Serious contenders. No. Big winner is Wal*Mart with a ONE FULL PAGE ad in the Sunday Parade section for BISSELL products with ROLLBACK prices. Nice array too. Check it out. My choice for a Mother's Day vacuum present: Easy decison: The iRobot. Such a deal! HAPPY VACUUM CLEANER SHOPPING.......... Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/09/07 at 9:25am If you are interested in buying the IRobot Scheduler but not the 2 for 1 offer that retailers are offering, go to COSTCO stores. It offers the iRobot Scheduler (top-of-the-line) for $259 AND a $50 manufacturer's mail-in-coupon. Final cost before taxes: $209. Such a deal! Offer good through June 10 at COSTCO Stores. Mother's Day May 13. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by mmc on 05/09/07 at 5:32pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Carmine, I could not find anything about the rebate on the Dyson Website, or on the websites of Target, LNT, BBB or Sears.... Where did you find out about the rebate? Thanks in advance, Dan[/quote] Hello Dan: Try KOHL's Stores. LNT and BBB are sparse and non-existent with new dyson models. I haven't seen the DC17, DC18 and/or DC21 advertised by either of them yet. I don't know if they even carry them yet. I think the 20 percent off coupon by these retailers on dyson products may have strained dyson business relations with these chains. Maybe some one else who knows will share the latest developments. (Matt mmc you still lurking?). Carmine D.[/quote] But of course ;) Any current rebates are NOT through Dyson. Also, LNT and BBB both have Dyson's new products, although their advertising schedule is not as busy as some other retailers. The 20% coupon has definitely made things interesting in ALL stores!! |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/09/07 at 7:42pm mmc wrote:
Here's what I hear: BBB does not want to carry the dyson DC21 canister and any of the DC14 models. LNT does not want to carry the DC18 Slim. At 20 percent off MSRP, BBB and LNT are the better sales for the dyson models (EVEN WITH THE DYSON $50 mail-in-rebate ;)) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by mmc on 05/09/07 at 8:21pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Here's what I hear: BBB does not want to carry the dyson DC21 canister and any of the DC14 models. LNT does not want to carry the DC18 Slim. At 20 percent off MSRP, BBB and LNT are the better sales for the dyson models (EVEN WITH THE DYSON $50 mail-in-rebate ;)) Carmine D. [/quote] Interesting. DC21 is only in select BBB stores and they don't carry any DC14's. LNT not wanting to carry SLIM? They haven't started carrying it yet. I'm not sure who's giving you their opinions. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/10/07 at 7:53am mmc wrote:
When will LNT start selling the DC18 Slim? All the other retailers have had them for several months. Could LNT be waiting for all the pent up consumers' demand after dyson hits the TV waves with its commercials? I'll wait for the $100 dyson rebate (price drop) before making the plunge on the DC18. ;) Forget the dyson cann, its hopeless. Nothing will spark its sales. (Maybe a free DC16 giveaway?). Some of these BBBY and LNT sources don't know what they are talking about. They're probably too close to the action. BBBY are even saying that like LNT its owners are more inclined to entertain private buyout bids. Why? Owners are old, in their 70's. And BBBY is debt free and has $3.50 cash per share. Unlike LNT which brought 10 percent premium on the value from Apollo Group, BBBY will probably bring 20 percent for shareholders. Then again what do their opinions matter. They don't know anything. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by mmc on 05/10/07 at 8:38am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
When will LNT start selling the DC18 Slim? All the other retailers have had them for several months. Could LNT be waiting for all the pent up consumers' demand after dyson hits the TV waves with its commercials? Carmine D.[/quote] Sometime next month. Don't have an exact date yet. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/11/07 at 8:32am A couple of retailers' before Mother's Day vacuum sales: Kohl's and SEARS. Kohl's for Friday and Saturday, May 11 and 12, have the Eureka Boss 4D bagless upright and HOOVER Steam Vac for $139. And the dyson DC16 hand held for $149 and Shark cordless stick sweeper for $49. SEARS Friday-Sunday sale (May 11-13) with the Eureka Maxima bagless upright for $49 (lightweight); Kenmore bagless Quickclean upright for $89 and the bagged Kenmore Magic Blue canister for $79. Mother's Day May 13, still time to get that special someone a iRobot Discovery, Scheduler, and/or Scooba (and snag a Dirt Dog for yourself for the garage/workshop). ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/13/07 at 8:44am HAPPY MOTHER's DAY ladies. Lowe's has joined the 20 percent off floorcare bandwagon too including dysons (20 PERCENT off is making things DICEY for dyson): The DC18 Slim with an MSRP of $469 BEFORE 20 percent off with discount taken at the register. (No mail-in-rebate from retailer and reimbursement from maker taking months and months for customers' refunds.) Offer good from May 13-27, 2007. Excludes special order. See store for details. Now there are 3 big box retailers offering 20 percent off dysons (AND IN ADVERTISED STORE SALES) including the new dyson models: Lowe's, BBBY and LNT. What happened to dyson MAP? ;) BEST BUY, SEARS, Kohl's, TARGET and Circuit City Stores' Managements must be absolutely livid. How can they compete on dyson prices with 3 major retailers now offering 20 percent off dyson MSRP? Including the new DC18 and DC21. Can't. Dum dum dum dum. Things are getting very interesting for dyson retailers. Are $100 Store Giftcards in the making and possibly combined with discounts of 10-20 percent too off MSRP on dyson products. Let's see what the summer brings. Also included in the 20 percent off at Lowes is the dyson DC14 for $429 before discount. EUREKA Maxima bagless for $59 (b/d). HOOVER bagless WT for $159 (b/d); HOOVER Elite Rewind $99 (b/d). BISSELL Healthy Home $249 (b/d). And the Electrolux Intensity for $299 (b/d). This looks like the best ADVERTISED sales offer of the week, especially on the dysons for all you dyson fans. ANd Lowe's provides the weight, cord length and warranty periods for their advertised sales on vacuums. Other retailers should follow suit and do the same. BEST BUY has the usual array but can't compare with Lowe's. EUREKA Maxima $89, Eureka Boss SMart Vac 4870 for $149, Intensity for $299, BISSELL MOmentum Bagless upright for $99, BISSELL Healthy Home for $249 and dyson DC18 Slim for $469. Lowe's gives you 20 percent off of these same prices. Circuit City has the BISSELL Healthy Home for $249 and the dyson DC14 for $429. Lowe's gives you 20 percent off these same models and prices. Dah! Sears has a closeout on the white Progressive bagged canister for $289, bagged cann for $39, BISSELL Velocity for $119, dyson DC14 for $429 and HOOVER All Terrain $279. Kohl's has the BISSELL Momentum for $99, and BISSELL Velocity for $149. KMart has the bagged Dirt Devil Breeze for $42, bagless Dirt Devil Swivel Glide for $69, BISSELL QuickSteamer for $69 and HOOVER bgaless WT for $159. (Lowe's has the same HOOVER for the same price PLUS a 20 percent off). Finally, Oreck with ads in the dailies and the Sunday Smart Source on the XL Ultra and Deluxe. And look for Dave's new TV ads for his "lightweight" 8 pound XL upright. Complete with backdrops of Oreck's nationwide network of Clean Home Centers and satisfied Oreck customers. No actors in the ad for Dave. He plays the leading role as top salesman and product supporter. That's all folks. Carmine D |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/17/07 at 7:54am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Didn't take long. Add Kohl's to the discounters too with 15-20-30 percent off ALL floorcare including dysons. Here's your chance to snag a dyson DC18 Slim for $328 that's a $141 discount from MSRP. And Kohl's, unlike in the past sales, has kept the MSRP prices intact before discounts. Not inflating. And there are no quantity limits. As many as you want and can afford. Dyson dealers here's your opportunity to buy as many as you can for 30 percent off and sell at MSRP. THe sale is good from Wednesday May 17-22. Jimmy the P/OT told you so. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/19/07 at 5:59pm Just heard some news and it was confirmed that after the current Kohl's sales expire on May 22, a new sale will be in effect. EXTRA 15 percent off (for Kohl's credit card holders) on everything from May 23-June 6. This includes sale, regular, and clearance priced merchandise. It's good for ONE DAY ONLY on anything and everything in the store. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/21/07 at 8:55am The usual array of non-descript vacuum sales this week in anticipation of Memorial Day AND the already advertised sales. Speaking of which, Kohl's Sales supplement was in the Sunday newspaper this weekend for all you doubting dyson fans. Minimum off for Kohl's credit card holders 15-20-30 thru Tuesday May 22. And its good on ALL FLOORCARE not just the expensive bagless brand. Speaking of which, if you are one of the lucky customers with a 30 percent off mailer, you can snag a DC18 dyson-lite for $328. Not a bad price for the latest and greatest dyson. Lowe's still has its' 20 percent off ALL FLOORCARE, except special order, through May 27. Including the DC18 dyson-lie (I mean lite) if you are not a Kohl's fan. These are the winning retailers for vacuum sales this week. The unworthy are BEST BUY with the dyson DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. Forgetabout it. BB will sell as many of these as Haley's Comets for that price. And the Dirt Devil Swivel Glide for $59. Those will sell. But for crying out loud, can you make those vacuum ads alittle larger. Couldn't see them under those huge washer and dryer sale ads. SEARS is right up there for the worse with BEST BUY. DC18 for $469. Give me a break. Every retailer in town has them discounted and SEARS is selling for full price. THe HOOVER WT SP bagged for $229 isn't too bad. Comes with the hose extension. But you can beat it at COSTCO's regular price for $219. Some non-descripts at KMart too. Eureka, BISSELL, and DIRT DEVIL. All bagless inexpensive uprights save the ProHeat deep carpet cleaner for $169. Circuit City joins the boo-hoo club of losers too this week. Dyson DC07 for $399 and DC18 dyson-lite for $469. I'm sure they'll sell out of these at those prices. Yeah...right. THe best deal which ain't a deal is the HOOVER Elite rewind for $99. The Sunday paper also has the 20 percent Linens-N-Things discount coupon good thru June 9 (Including dysons not excluding as it once did when dysons were hot...now they're NOT). And the Forum has it from a good dyson inside source that ALL THE NEW DYSON MODELS ARE AT LNT. ;) Dave Oreck, the slow and sure face of USA vacuums, advertised in the dailies and Saturday papers with his favorite Oreck XL Ultra. And snagged another sale (now 3 in 3 weeks) of his XL Classic from Carmine D. for $149 plus shipping. THis one for dear daughter's new house. Well, that's all folks. Let's see what happens after Memorial Day: The official start of Summer when vacuum sales wane and discount prices heat up. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/27/07 at 8:19am HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND and vacuum sales. If you saw the recent 2 week 20 PERCENT OFF Lowe's vacuum sales advertisment (May 13-27, 2007) you note that of the 7 popular big box store models (5 brands), the model that was front and center leading all the rest in the "V" for victory parade (even the most expensive dysons) was the Electrolux (EUREKA) 16 pound Intensity bagged vacuum for $299 before discount (now dubbed Lightweight). Don't tell me you missed that subtle nuance! Well, Lowe's is continuing the 20 PERCENT OFF but ONLY on ELECTROLUX AND EUREKA models incluidng the Lightweight Electrolux Intensity (bagged). As usual Lowe's is heads and shoulders above all the big box stores in presentation. Giving consumers a Comparative Analyses of models in quick and easy to read chart form by surface cleaning, weight, cord length and warranty. And the sale is valid May 27 thru June 3. Conspicuously absent from the ad: The prices. Hummh? Interesting! The ad says see store for details. Do I smell a bagless "dirty dyson rat?" Maybe? And the EUREKA BOSS SMARTVAC (bagged) shows the "Consumers Digest" BEST BUY annotation. More to come. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/28/07 at 8:13am HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY: The next best sale offering this Holiday Weekend is ORECK with ads in the dailies and Saturday papers. With 50 percent off selected Oreck products, both vacuums and air cleaners. This offer competes with the recent Oreck special for Humane Society members: $149 for the XL Classic plus shipping. BTW I ordered my 3rd in as many weeks. My first ORECK XL purchase has been used almost daily (save an occasional HOOVER WT/ZEE usage to check on the Oreck) for over one month. It has a half full bag and still going strong. No loss of cleaning and grooming on the rugs and floors. As Dave says: It is Amazing. After these, it's down hill. BEST BUY is a big disappointment. One vacuum for advertised sale: The Eureka BAGGED Maxima upright for $39. Dysons, save the old DC07 and DC14 models of years ago, at full MSRP at Circuit City, SEARS and HOME DEPOT. Non-events. Only one major big box retailer has a new dyson model advertised. TARGET has the DC18 dyson-lite for $469. No sale here. Use a BBBY and LNT 20 percent coupon to get it for $375 if you have to have. BTW, the LNT coupon is good thu 6/10/07. And the ONE VACUUM advertised by LNT is the BISSELL HEALTHY HOME for $249. AT 20 % off it's $200 which beats the TARGET Holiday sale price. KMart and KOHL's has the usual aray of cheap bagless and bagged vacuums. But nothing to waste your precious costly gas money over. Kudos this week go to Lowe's again with honorable mention to ORECK. B00 to the rest, save the BBBY and LNT with 20 percent off. It's going to be an interesting summer for vacuum sales and prices. That's all folks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 05/28/07 at 9:03pm Hi Carmine, How's it going? I just checked out Best Buy online. It had price reductions on several cleaners that might not bowl shoppers over but at least make the idea of buying more attractive. Bissel's 5770, which has been "heavy rotation" via television ads, is now $225. Price cuts of $40 or $50 may help some of the Dysons in stock appear more as actual merchandise than decor. Lots and lts of Dirt Devils, etc., for below $100 are also around to make less than choosy shoppers feel they've bought something. Regards, Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/28/07 at 10:30pm Hello Venson: Doing well for an old retired man in Las Vegas. Temp today topped out at 100 and my tan, according to my dear Wife, looks great with my white hair! I've noticed, and you probably have too, that the bulk of the vacuums in the newspaper ads are the BISSELLS, Dirt Devils, Eurekas, HOOVERS, and Sears in the $100 and under prices. More so than ever before. If a high priced vacuum ($200 and more) is advertised, a cheapo is right along side. Why? Many reasons. And you probably know them all. Lowe's bucked the trend this week with the more expensive Electrolux (Eureka) line BUT a Eureka Altima bagless upright was right there along with. And NO PRICES were advertised with the vacuums. Shrewd? The stores will get the vacuum customers in on the cheapo's and then have non-advertised higher priced models at substantial discounts from MSRP close by. Hoping that the vacuum buyers will bite. Possibly by using charge cards with no/low interest rates and/or no payments for 6 months to one year. If this strategy doesn't work (and it may not), the retailers will come down as far as they can on the high priced models in order to move them off the shelves. If these models still don't sell, they ain't going to be part of the store decor for Christmas time. These models will get scrubbed from the shelves, sooner rather than later. The higher the vacuum prices, the more likely these models will get taken off the store shelves. Why? To make room for more popular and quicker selling merchandise in today's economy. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 05/31/07 at 7:55am SEARS has a 48 hour sale for Friday and Saturday, June 1 and 2. Vacuums advertised: HOOVER Foldaway bagless for $59 (with SEARS card); Sears Kenmore Progressive bagged upright for $254 (good price) with SEARS card; Sears Kenmore bagged canister for $289 (closeout) and finally the dyson DC14 All Floors for $429. But wait what's that it says for the dyson: "BEFORE IN-STORE SAVINGS." Yes indeed, buyers should be seeing more of that language for dyson advertised sales in the months to come. Dyson MAP is 10 percent. So must be better than 10% if SEARS can't print. :) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/01/07 at 8:36am Kohl's has a one day sale on June 2, 7AM to 10 PM. Save an extra 10 percent on all Floor care (and the prices are at MSRP, not marked above). Advertised is the dyson DC07 (old and out-of-date) for $399. before the 10 percent off. But wait, you recall I mentioned (see above) that Kohl's has a an EXTRA 15 percent off ON EVERYTHING on sale, regular and clearance priced merchandise in store and online. Offer is valid May 23-June 6, 2007. For Kohl's Charge purchases in store and on-line. If you are one of a few dyson fans who still wants to buy the DC07, with 25 % off, that's $299 and with a 5 year warranty. (Looks like Kohl's is giving eBay some price competition on new dysons). And no quantity limits. Buy as many as you like. Give them away for gifts. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/02/07 at 10:12pm If the side trailer on WTBV is correct, it looks like another retailer is jumping on the dyson 20-30 percent off sales bandwagon. Must have heard about the ASA ruling against dyson and wants to sell out before the word spreads. No Loss of Suction is a big loss of money. ;) Wonder how long dyson has to remove the false claims: "No clogged filters means no loss of suction" before it gets smacked with a six figure fine? Or will it be retroactive back to 2002. I seem to recall Oreck challenging dyson for making this false claim too! You go Dave. http://www.overstock.com/search?keywords=dyson+vacuum&searchtype=k&fp=f&kid=2000045706&cid=96202 What do you know? And only $2.95 for shipping. With a 5 year warranty. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/03/07 at 6:57am HSN is running 4 segments today Sunday June 3 for HOOVER products to commemorate its anniversary. Check local listings for times. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/04/07 at 7:50am Caught a glimpse of the HSN HOOVER demo on the HOOVER FloorMate. Looks like over 6000 were sold in one day. Great price too: The latest and greatest with all the attachments and cleaners and Xtra filter for $150. Best price in town. Now onto the weekly vacuum sales. Interesting week due to the adverse decision against dyson for its false claims: Never clogs, never loses suction. Apparently 36 dyson users disagreed and filed complaints for false claims in advertising. BEST BUY has no vacuums advertised for sale. A complete no show no go. Unusual for BB. No Memorial Day vacuum specials to speak of, and still the Memorial Day week after and no vacuums. Could it be that it had wind of the dyson ruling and wants to get a legal opinion before going back with its dyson ads? Could be. KOHL's has the DC16 Hand Held for $149. Dud. Circuit City has the HOOVER Elite rewind for $99, a CC staple. The BISSELL Healthy Home for $249. Another CC staple. And the dyson DC14 for $429. With the now infamous dyson claim to shame: No clogging; No loss of suction. Wrong thinking here so says the Advertising Standards Authority in its ruling against dyson. 36 dyson users challenged the claims and ASA upheld their position. Told dyson to clean up its act or get punished. Apparently dyson is slow to do so and get the word out to its "small time" dyson retailers. Even TARGET is guilty of the evil: Advertising the DC17 Absolute Animal for $549 with the bold face lie: Never loses suction (as Jimmy P/OT says: If you add: "For a little while" it makes the statement true . No such lies from KMart which doesn't advertise dysons for sale. Instead it has the usual array of bagless uprights (Sears Kenmore) and Dirt Devil canister for $89. And the HOOVER WT bagless for $159. The week's winner again is Lowe's with a nice layout for vacuum sales: Including the DC18 for $469; the iRobot for $199; Shop Vac for $49; the DC16 Hand Held for $149. Pitted right up against the DC16 is the Black and Decker Pivot Nose for $59 (talked about alot on this Forum). To Lowe's credit it hasn't used the misleading and false dyson claims in many many months. Instead Lowe's chooses to give the vital specs (like weight, cord length, warranty, and this week prices again too) and let the buyers decide without all the manufacturers' hyping and hawking. And finally can't forget my old-time favorite: Oreck. No dailies this week. Strictly Sunday. In the Smart Source supplement with all the vendors' discounts and sales. The Womens' favorite sales section of the newspaper. Full page color ad. For the Oreck XL Deluxe. With a lovely lady hugging her Oreck XL. And Dave relined on a couch. As Dave says: "Don't sweat it. My Oreck XL Deluxe does all the work so you don't have to." Right on Dave. Now that's an example of truth in advertising and right thinking. You go old school Dave. That's all folks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/04/07 at 7:14pm KOHL's does it again with pre-Summer sales. Renews its 15-20-30 percent off on everything using the Kohl's Charge card from June 7-12, 2007. Included are floor care items including .............yes you guessed it dyson vacuums. Advertised are the DC07 All Floors for $399 and DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. Both prices before the discounts. And no claim to shame. No mention of the 5 year old dyson lie: NEVER CLOGS NEVER LOSES SUCTION. See local stores for sale items and sale prices. The discounts are good with regular, sale, and clearance priced merchandise. Same as previous sale. So what happened with the dyson MAP? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/06/07 at 7:40am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Also added to the dyson sales venue are the DC07 Animal for $499 and the DC16 Hand Held for $149. Both prices before the KOHL's discounts of 15-20-30 percent off on-line and in stores for purchases charged to the KOHL's card. Sale runs from Thursday June 7 through Tuesday June 12 (FATHER's DAY sale). Check your local KOHL's stores and prices for more dyson and floorcare brands and products on sale. Caution: If you bought the DC16 KOHL's advertised in Sunday's papers for $149 (see above with my 'dud' reference) you cannot get a price adjustment. So find a problem with it, like the 3-5 minute run time and return it. Then consider the lower price if you REALLY have to have it: Here are 4 good uses: Paper weight, door stop, conversation piece, and prop for Halloween custom. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 06/06/07 at 9:21am And dont forget to price shop on E-BAY. The prices are way better plus you get the same shoddy customer support.Even some come with free shipping to your door................... O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/06/07 at 2:04pm Looks like all the big box retailers and Web sites are beating the HSN prices. ;) http://www.hsn.com/cnt/sf/default.aspx?sf=hm&attr=2699&cm_re=LN*Brand*Dyson&prev=hp!sf&kw=contentdyson&sourceid=1GAIN&rdr=1&cm_mmc=PaidSearch*Googbg*hm*contentdyson&CurPage=1 Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/07/07 at 8:12am HOME DEPOT joins the Father's Day sales venue with some very nice tools, some cordless lithium-ion battery powered ones too. Like the 4 volt Screwdriver with 21 piece accessory kit for $29. A Special Buy rating. Like Ryobi says "Pro features at affordable prices." And talking about Special Buys and affordable prices HD has the Black & Decker 18 volt pivoting had vac for $49. Excellent price. And talked about much on the Forum. Self-cleaning filter, bagless, excellent power, cordless. According to HD: Strong power to tackle the toughest messes. Great for the car. Also available on line. I just might treat myself this Father's Day! On what? The cordless lithium-ion Ryobi 4 volt screwdriver and the B&D pivot vac. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by just-passing-throu on 06/07/07 at 5:21pm Carmine, If you are going to treat yourself to a Father's day present. Make it one of those Robomowers. There are several people in my city that have them, there was even a newspaper article last Saturday. The humans that live with "Herbie" say that at first he was great entertainment, people came over to watch him mow (which he does daily, and recharges himself when needed). They said the hardest part was getting the paramiters set at first, after that they just don't worry about the mowing anylonger. As far as Vacs, for my new move, I want a light weight to do quick work around the house. I am strongly leaning towards the Simplicity Freedom I spoke of on another thread. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 06/07/07 at 5:51pm Carmine has astroturf,his yard looks like the meadowlands field in ol jersey ;D O.T., |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by RAT on 06/07/07 at 10:35pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
With the black and decker product, you may be eligible for a free companion airline ticket rebate. http://promotion.blackanddecker.com/ |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/07/07 at 11:08pm RAT wrote:
RAT: Thanks. The 18 volt pivot vacuum is one of the products for the eligibility. As my Jewish Aunt use to say: "Such a deal!." Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/10/07 at 1:32pm With FATHER's Day just a week away (and estimated $9.9 BILLION to be spent) one retailer is conspicuously absent again with vacuum sales: For the second straight week, BEST BUY is a no show, no go. Well you might say, FATHER's don't really want vacuums for gifts on their "official" HOLIDAY. I'd say dyson DC16 Hand Held would be a welcome power tool around the workshop and garage. But as we know, the majority of these are getting returned to BEST BUY after purchase and SEARS decided not to take the product on at all. Sears prefers to sell the Black and Decker Pivot vacuum. Why? Dyson DC16 price at $149 is too high and it has way too short a run time, especially with less expensive longer running competitors: Like B&D for $59. HOME DEPOT has the B&D pivot vacuum for $49 this week and a free companion airline ticket is possible with purchase. Maybe BEST BUY will sneak a vacuum or 2 in next week at the last minute. Have to wait and see. In the mean time KOHL's has the DC16 Hand Held for $149 (BEFORE 15-20 and 30 percent off) and several other retailers have hand helds for sale too but not the DC16. More to come later. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/11/07 at 7:34am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Linens-N-Things agrees. The DC16 Hand Held is advertised for $149 BEFORE a 20 percent off coupon valid through June 17, Father's Day. LNT and Bed Bath and Beyond are struggling with sales primarily a result of the protracted housing market retrenchment. Economists now predict no real come back until 2008 for a housing slump that began in late 2005. Circuit City features the DC18 dyson lite for $469. And continues the dyson mantra "No clogging, No loss of suction." Didn't get the ASA memo. No loss. At $469, you can beat the price. TARGET has a nice twist: The DC14 Drive (a dyson Exclusive for TARGET stores) for $459 and a $50 Giftcard. It still has the dyson mantra too. Change is slow for the vacuum industry even for a self-proclaimed dyson maverick. KMart gets into the sales venue too with two hand helds. Both Black and Decker: The wet/dry Dustbuster and the Cyclonic Dustbuster for $17 and $32 respectively. And just about all the retailers have Shop Vacs and Rigids on sale for the garages and workshops. But the weekly ad kudos go to Dave and Oreck who passed by the Sunday ads and stuck with the weeklies. ORECK revives the "think pink" campaign for the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation. With the XL for $299 and the usual giveaways (iron, canister) Oreck will donate a portion of the proceeds from the XL sales to the Foundation. And this kicks off the official ORECK mid-year sale. The National Retail Foundation estimates that $9.9 BILLION will be spent for FATHER'S Day in 2007. This compares to $9 BILLION in 2006 and $15.8 BILLION for MOTHER's DAY. Happy vacuuming. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/12/07 at 8:05am Kohl's is ramping up the sales discounts. On June 13 from 8AM until 10PM all Seniors get an additional 15 percent off all sale-, regular-& Clearance-priced merchandise. And buy either the BISSELL Cleanview bagless upright $129 (BEFORE DISCOUNTS) and/or the Powersteamer for $99 (BEFORE DISCOUNTS) and receive the BISSELL Featherwight Lightweight stick vacuum free. Summer sales are underway. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/12/07 at 8:09am just-passing-throu wrote:
old-timer wrote:
Real grass is non-existent in the new building developments in North Las Vegas. Nevada even encourages older home owners and buyers to substitute "desert landscape" for grass by offering tax credits and reductions. Water is in short supply. The only place in Del Webb Sun City Aliante with luxurious beautiful looking real grass is the golf course. And I don't play. ;) And it can cost $10,000-$40,000 MORE for a house that is on the 18 hole Golf Course. Not for me. I'm one row of houses away on 2 sides around. Don't want all those stray golfers and balls littering up my nice desert landscape and upsetting my dog while she is napping. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by just-passing-throu on 06/12/07 at 10:59am I used to live on the back part of Rolling Hills Golf Course. You are right about the stray balls. More than a few windows got whacked during the time I lived there. Not to mention all the strays that ended up getting under my mower. I have some friends in Phoenix, they too are encouraged to do desert scapes. Oh, well with no grass to mow, it give you more time to vacuum. Is most of your vac bag contents comprised of sand? I am just assuming, that is being in the desert. That is besides the pet hair you frequently speak of. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/12/07 at 11:35am just-passing-throu wrote:
I don't miss mowing, although I always had a contract with my grass. It grows, I cut it. Nothing more. No water, no fertilizer, no weeding. Waste of time and money. Much rather grow flowers, plants and veggies. The biggest component of the bag is pet hair by far, next just the ordinary dust and dirt, then fine grit and sand. New houses are built airtight and well-insulated. Especially the area under the slate covered roofs. Plus we added sunscreens to all the windows in the house (in addition to the existing storms-screens) to reduce heat, wind, and sand from coming into the window openings. Wind is the weather issue mostly. Not uncommon for sustained gusts of 25 miles per hour. And higher. On the plus side, hot temps for sun worshippers with very low humidity. For example it was 97 degrees recently in Woodbridge VA with 97 percent humidity. Unbearable for people and pets. Vice the same temp here in LV with 9 percent humidity. Double digit humidity here is very uncommon. Vice the 80-90 percent and more for the Washington Metro area which includes Northern Virginia. No doubt correlated to the times that the gang of 535 are in session across the Potomac River. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 06/12/07 at 1:04pm I don't miss mowing, although I always had a contract with my grass. It grows, I cut it. Nothing more. No water, no fertilizer, no weeding. Waste of time and money. Much rather grow flowers, plants and veggies Carmine D. Carmine did you grow your own vegtables to eat so you could survive,like Sir James. :D O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/12/07 at 3:52pm Jimmy the Pro/OT Too funny O/T. I did eat some, but really gave most veggies away to friends, family, and neighbors. Just like the pears, peaches, and figs. And grapes. Even made my own tomato seeds and plants and had the experts from Rutgers University come out to marvel at their size and weight. ;) Here in Vegas the HOA frown on gardens and plants unless strictly authorized and approved. I miss the garden. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by just-passing-throu on 06/13/07 at 1:03pm [. Not uncommon for sustained gusts of 25 miles per hour. Carmine D. [/quote] In my part of the world, Kansas, that isn't a wind that's a gentle breeze. I live on a reclaimed sand pit, and besides the pet hair I get lots and lots of fine sand that is tracked in. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 06/13/07 at 3:13pm Hey Carmine, I was in my local Best Buy last night. They've put the Dyson "Slim Jim" display right out on a main aisle just before the Floor Care aisle and the Euro Pro uprights have disappeared. Have I missed something? The Dyson "Stowaway" canister also seems to have replaced the bagged Electyrolux that was on display though the bagless version remains. Thanks, Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/13/07 at 7:46pm guess_who wrote:
Hello Venson: No, I think you are seeing your local BEST BUY store trying to do everything it can to push new dysons with every ounce of its being. The key to BB's success is the dyson prices. If they stay at MSRP, the dysons at BB won't sell. Why? Too many retailers now are offering ongoing discounts on dysons of at least 20 percent. BEST BUY has to do the same and/or better to compete. Some retailers have already begun assessing their complete venue of vacuum products and will make changes. BEST BUY has a special relationship with dyson because it convinced James to launch his vacuum line in the USA in April 2002 ahead of his planned schedule. Other retailers are not so loyal and not wedded to dyson in the same way. Sell or perish. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 06/13/07 at 8:15pm I would think that with how competetive this industry is, the box stores are only looking at the same stuff it always had,only at a better price and who gives them the best deal.The brands that box stores sell are pretty much the same.Yes even dyson,now that that the cats out of the bag,if you know what i mean. The indy's are in a very nice position to put some real heat on these box stores,the playing field has leveled out. It's a industry wide consensus that box store are not the venue for vacuums that cost more than 300.00 plus. O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/13/07 at 10:49pm old-timer wrote:
Hello Jimmy P/OT: I agree. Some high priced vacuum brands thought they could deceive the USA vacuum buying consumers with high priced vacuums at the big box stores. Retailers bought into it. Why? Profit. The perception they thought was that if vacuums cost alot more they must be better. This is typical of the Japanese customers [my apologies to them if they find this offensive]. The problem with this thinking is big box stores HAVE to sell new vacuums every year. Well, people are not going to buy new vacuums priced at $300 plus every year. What happens? Perception soon gives way to reality. Once the US vacuum customers get burned [sucked in], they remember. Result: They flock back to the independent vacuum cleaner stores and the established vacuum store brands. Not just to get their high priced big box store vacuums repaired, but to trade them in. Or buy new outright. Why? Product support and reliability and customer satisfaction. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/14/07 at 7:27pm Smart-Reviews in association with Amazon.com's TOP RATED Vacuums, uprights, canisters and robots. http://www.smart-review.com/vacuumcleaners.html Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/15/07 at 6:46pm Expect to see 2 more bagless upright vacuums on store shelves. The Dirt Devil i-vacuum for $250 with a 5 year warranty. HEPA, permament washable filters. 11 foot hose reach. Power tool on board. Shroud and bin completely washable. Easy bottom bin dump. Cord winder. Finger tip controls. Decent brush roll. Looks amazingly like the VAX and Siemens. And the Eureka Capture for $150. Completely redesigned. I have pics on someone else's cell phone. As soon as I get them and figure out how to post on the Forum, I'll give it a shot. Expect to see these and more new models on retailers shelves soon and some culling of older models, especially the high priced dyson line. For example the Electrolux Intensity lightweight upright will soon appear on TARGET shelves. And a new HOOVER Floormate, just to mention a couple more. HAPPY LAZY HAZY CRAZY SUMMER VACUUMING DAYS Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/16/07 at 9:44pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Hello Venson: No, I think you are seeing your local BEST BUY store trying to do everything it can to push new dysons with every ounce of its being. The key to BB's success is the dyson prices. If they stay at MSRP, the dysons at BB won't sell. Why? Too many retailers now are offering ongoing discounts on dysons of at least 20 percent. BEST BUY has to do the same and/or better to compete. Some retailers have already begun assessing their complete venue of vacuum products and will make changes. BEST BUY has a special relationship with dyson because it convinced James to launch his vacuum line in the USA in April 2002 ahead of his planned schedule. Other retailers are not so loyal and not wedded to dyson in the same way. Sell or perish. Carmine D. [/quote] Hello Venson: I have to revisit my earlier response with updated insider information. Dyson bought and paid for the BEST BUY space much like it would for the end cap shelf display space. All of the BEST BUY store space is retail space up for sale. The prime space goes to the highest merchandise bidder. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 06/17/07 at 11:14am Thanks Carmine, I wasn't aware. It was my assumption that Best Buy called the shots on the placement of the stock it bought. Things being the opposite, it makes it a little clearer to me why Dyson prices stay elevated. To what benefit I am want to know. In my last few recent excursions to both Best Buy and Costco, I've definitely observed more shopper interest in far lower priced brands. There does appear to be much less discrimination regarding features over price. As for Costco, or at least mine in Long Island City, I didn't see one Dyson on display my last visit two or three days ago. Hoover and Eureka uprights seem to be in great supply however. There is also a version of the Euro Pro Shark upright there for $199. It's blue but not the teal blue color that's being pushed elsewhere. ("Pushed" . . . can I call that a pun?) Costco offers any number of brands, known and unknown online, but vacuum stock and quantity must vary noticably store to store. My local Costco remains not overly focused on vacuum sales. Overall there is not a lot to choose from and not a lot of effort put into engaging customer interest in what's available. Regards, Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/17/07 at 1:24pm guess_who wrote:
Hello Venson: The E-P Infinity you mentioned is a COSTCO exclusive model. You'll note the model number has a "C" and/"COS" suffix. At the local COSTCO here in N. LV they are sold out right and have trouble keeping in stock. It appears to be a good seller. guess_who wrote:
The average annual income of a COSTCO member is $72,000. We're not talking about basement budget shoppers. If you can't sell $400 plus vacuums (with 5 year warranty) at COSTCO, you certainly can't sell a $378 dyson (with a 2 year warranty) at Wal*Mart stores. What happened? New vacuum sales, like most new household appliances, have been hard hit in 2006 and 2007 by the housing market retrenchment [and other economic conditions]. Retailers right now are culling inventory stocks of vacuums and other merchandise to make space for items that move off the shelves quickly. High priced vacuums [especially the highest] are not selling, let alone quickly. These tend to gather more dust on the outside than on the inside (over time and lack of interest/use). As Jimmy the Pro/OT pointed out earlier in this thread[and I agree], after 5 years of $400 AND HIGHER vacuums in the big box retailers, vacuum customers and retailers have come to an "epiphany." Customers shopping for a vacuum in a price range up to $300 WILL look at big box retailers. Customers with a budget of $300 and more go to the independent vacuum cleaner stores. Not HSN and QVC. At least, not anymore for whatever the reason and/or reasons. Like Jimmy warned over a year ago and still says: The party for retailers and high priced vacuums is over. The big box stores are heading for the exit signs. All at the same time. Hence, my advice to the Halo vacuum people to get it to the market quickly without delay, especially since the Halo has an MSRP of $399. Now dyson has to "cotton to" the indy's not just for repairs and parts support but for new dyson vacuum sales too. After 5 years of foster care treatment by dyson towards the indy's, good luck. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 06/17/07 at 2:19pm Hi Carmine.I would like to post the following question to the dealers on the forum. Since we know that manufactures pay the box stores for space on their shelves.How about the CO-OP advertising money.Are the dealers and big box retailers playing in the same ballfield. I would think at this point in time that the indy's and box stores should have more leverage and start dictating to BIG D,and others what they are going to pay for the product and what price they will sell it for.I think the tides are turning. remember the HOOVER co-op plan,it worked out well for the dealers......... O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/17/07 at 3:28pm old-timer wrote:
Hello Jimmy the O/T Pro: One of many reasons that the successful indy's NEVER put all their faith, hope, and love into one brand/company. Have a few good ones. Have a plan and work the plan. With a backup. Get the best deals from each for ad money, prices, etc. If one plays hardball, play hardball back. If one scratches your back, return the favor. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 06/18/07 at 2:43am Carmine, If the average Costco shopper makes 72 grand a year -- ple-e-e-z don't tell them about me. They'll snatch my card back the very next time they see me. Anyway . . . I'm not sure that the"big box" stores will just up and go away. I think the survivors, should public interest begin to wane, will be those establishments that are more thoughtful, clever if you will, about their offerings. They will attempt to make consumers feel less like pigs at the trough. Did I ever tell you about the greatest shopping experience of my life? Well I will! Just before Mother's Day a hundred years ago, I wanted to give a gift to show my appreciation to each of two ladies who'd been very, very kind ot me. I was going to school at the time, didn't have a lot of money. BUT -- I saw an ad in the Sunday Times that Tiffany & Company was having a sale on some small crystal items. The price was small too. Only $25.00 per each. I decided on a Bacarat jam jar for each of my good friends. As I said, I didn't have a lot of money -- and I certainly looked it. Nonetheless, I gathered my courage, threw my head up and pushed a door open. There I stood in plain old jeans and with a hole in a sneaker thoroughly expecting to be taken for a shoplifter and ejected when the most pleasant of voices called out to ask, "May I help you?" The nicest salesperson that I have ever had occasion to meet stepped forward and directed me to a petit point chair beside her desk. Knowing the cost of the stores usual fare, I immediately blurted out a nervous apology for my being there only for a couple of paltry 25-buck items. She immediately set me at ease by telling me how tight Jackie O could be when Christmas time came. In any event she made a lil' ol' country boy like me feel just as important as royalty. And that's where the problem lies. Yes, it's super cool to walk into a place where you can pick up a bag of potato chips or a 60" TV but the art, and a most profitable art it is, is to be able to make a customer actually feel valued enough to win their trust. Costco, Best Buy or even a Wal-Mart could do this given more thought to the product they vend and/or the way they vend it. They could sell any brand of ridiculously priced product to the masses if they were more able to convey a particular sense of their own selectiveness to the public. But they don't. And so drove of shoppers come in looking to buy "cheap" though not "good" because they know they can't trust these places of business for that. Yes, people are going to have to be offered something other than sleight of hand in regard to savings that aren't and long lines at the cash register. Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/18/07 at 3:17pm Here's the week's vacuum sales in review: First the winner: ORECK. Weeklies and Sunday Parade with the top-of-the line XL Ultra and 21. These are the favorites from Dave. And an interesting twist. ORECK nows says it's a 9 pound vacuum (not 8) and it's tauting its Microban, antimicrobial Technology which penetrates 99.9 percent of microbes: Bacteria, mold, mildew causing odors. And disables their ability to function, grow and reproduce. All key components are infused with Microban during manufacturing and lasts the life of the vacuum. The loser: TARGET: No show and no go on vacuums. After 2 weeks of no show, no go, BEST BUY gets a dishonorable mention. For sale: Eureka Maxima bagless upright for $39; Dirt Devil Swivel Glide bagless upright for $59; Altima Eureka bagless upright for $89; BISSELL Velocity bagless upright for $149 (And receive a $25 Gift Card free) and finally the Old over the hill dyson DC07 All Floors for $399 (And receive a $50 Giftcard free). Where did BB get all these DC 07 All Floors? The residual dysons from Wal*Mart when it had its fall out with dyson. Circuit City has instant 10 percent off on selected floor care. The items advertised: BISSELL Cleanview Power Trak bagless upright for $99; BISSELL ProHeat 2X for $249; and the old over the hill dyson DC07 Animal for $499. All prices before 10 percent off discount. KMart is in the sales too: Dirt Devil bagged upright for $44; BISSELL bagless Momentum upright for $99; BISSELL ProHeat 2x for $199 with solution. (Beats CC price above). Kenmore bagged cann for $39; and Kenmore Power-Mate Cann for $149. KOHL's passed on dyson and went with BISSELL and Eureka instead: Momentum bagless upright for $99; Eureka bagged Boss Smart Vac for $149; BISSELL HEALTHY HOME for $249 and BISSELL ProHeat Clearview and 2X for $169 and $249 respectively. And finally Fry's has the IRobot Red for $119. Limit of one per customer. Great price. Prices o advertised sales' vacuums are getting lower and lower. Not one vacuum over $400 advertised in any the big box retailers this week. Happy Father's Day Week. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/25/07 at 8:57am What's for sale in the vacuum department. Not much of anything in the week leading up to the 4th of July and the official kickoff of summer. But here goes: Winners and losers. Neither and all. BEST BUY finally advertises and adds free gift cards from $10 to $75. Of course the value depends on the make/model. BISSELL bagless Momentum upright for $99 and $10 free giftcard; BISSELL Cleanview 11 bagless upright for $84 and $15 giftcard; EUREKA bagged SmartVac upright with power paw $149, no card but free filtrette bags ($13 value); HOOVER WT bagless upright with washable teflon HEPA filter for $159 and $25 giftcard; BISSELL ProHeat 2X Steam Cleaner $199 and Pet Stain/Odor remover ($13 value) and finally dyson DC17 Animal for $549 with $75 giftcard. BEST BUY doesn't get kudos for its vacuums and sales but does for its Fisher Houses. Helping injured US military members with technology to keep them connected with their loved ones and families. Partnering with Sony, Toshiba, Samsung and Nintendo. CIRCUIT CITY has the HOOVER Elite bagless upright for $99; dyson DC14 for $429 and the IRobot Discovery for $$279 with free Dirt Dog IRobot ($129 value). KMart has the HOOVER Steam Cleaner for $179 with Cleaning Solution (valued at $15); BISSELL bagless Velocity upright for $119; Dirt Devil Vision bagless cann for $89; and Eureka Boss bagless mini-upright for $37. Linens-n-Things offers 20 percent off coupon good thru July 4. No vacuums on sale but all eligible for the discount. Finally, ORECK passed on the Sunday ads but went for the Weeklies with the XL21 top of the line. My advice: Hold out for the sales next week. Should be better prices and possibly some new offerings too. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/27/07 at 7:06am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Starting to be advertised on TV: Yesterday evening: ACCESS HOLLYWOOD. No price mentioned. But nice TV ad. Issue: Can DD sell itself to US consumers as a $250 vacuum cleaner? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/27/07 at 2:47pm New HOOVER lightweight bagless upright/stick vacuum called the Nano-lite. 12 amp. 20 foot cord. Attachments on board. Brush on-off pedal. 12 pounds. Handle folds down. One year unconditional guarantee on entire vacuum. MSRP about $50. Not on the HOOVER Web site yet. Competes with Eureka Optima and Dirt Devil lightweights. Does not have a turbo tool! Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Mike_W. on 06/30/07 at 2:36am I do not care for the dustbin and filter placement on the Nano-lite. More dirt is going to block the filter quicker compared to a pleated circular filter or a filter outside of the dirt bin. The handle is telescopic and does not fold down. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 06/30/07 at 7:12am Mike W: You're right on the handle. I believe there is a handle grip holder on the bottom of the bin housing for doing steps. I'm guessing the filter is washable/teflon coated. But I have not seen the nanolite up close and personal so I don't know for sure. Still not on the HOOVER website. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/02/07 at 9:44am Well with July 4th sales this week, let's take a look at what's up for vacuums. First, the no shows and no goes: BEST BUY and Circuit City have nada for vacuums for sale for the week. Unusual? Yes, I'd say so. ORECK passed on the Sunday ads but continues to hit the weeklies with its XL Classic for $299. 3 year warranty, cordless iron, compact canister. And Dave dressed in an Uncle Sam's red white and blue top hat. Also announcing that North Las Vegas already the home to 2 ORECK Clean Home Centers will be opening a third soon. TARGET has its usual array of suspects and a newbie: The dyson lite DC18 for $469 and a free $50 Giftcard with purchase. I think TARGET will up that to $100 by Labor Day and trust me, there's no shortage of dyson vacuums on the shelves. (BTW, it appears that TARGET ads have not made amends for the recent ASA ruling ordering dyson to tone down its claim to shame: NEVER CLOGS, NEVER LOSES SUCTION. Wrong. And TARGET is still claiming it. Also added to the TARGET ads is the HOOVER Elite bagless upright (newbie for TARGET) at $129 and a free $20 TARGET Giftcard. The EUREKA Altima bagless uprigt for $75, Dirt Devil Featherlite bagless upright for $45 AND the Eureka Quick-up hand-stick vacuum for $24. KMart has the Kenmore bagless Quick-Clean for $69; the Kenmore bagged compact cann for $39 (BTW this cheapie has a cordwinder too); Dirt Devil bagless swift stick vacuum for $19; Dirt Devil rechargeable bagless broom for $44 and the Dirt Devil Easy Steamer for $89 with Carpet Shampoo free. KOHL's has 10-33 percent off on selected floorcare. Like the HOOVER EmPower for $79 and BISSELL Power Steamer for $99. Have to check local stores for sale brands, models, and discounts. Linens-n-Things has its 20 percent coupon good through July 22, 2007 including all dyson vacuums. LNT Web Site has the dyson DC21 Stowaway canister for $499 (plus free shipping) before 20 percent off and DC18 dyson-lite (plus free shipping) before 20 percent off. Pretty nice savings for all the dyson fawners. The 20 off has to have the big box store retailers like BEST BUY, Circuit City, and SEARS seeing "red." Literally. Why? Because it costs them in lost dyson sales unless of course they meet the lower prices which then costs them in lost profits. Looks like this week's Supreme Court ruling on retail price fixing isn't having any effect yet. And finally the week's winner: HOME DEPOT with the dyson DC14 All Floors for $429 and DC17 Absolute Animal for $549. What's so good about these items and prices? Well if you buy ANY DYSON FLOORCARE PRODUCT OVER $397 with the HOME DEPOT Credit Card (I have one doesn't everybody?) between June 28 and July 8, you receive a $100 Giftcard by mail in rebate to HOME DEPOT. And HD's dyson ad conforms to the ASA ruling: NO mention of NEVER CLOGS, NEVER LOSES SUCTION. Instead: HD ad says "most powerful upright for pet hair" for the DC17 Aboslute Animal and "easy trigger activated dust bin" for the DC14. I don't particularly like mail in rebates and Gift Cards--takes too long. And this is a repeat of a similar offer KOHL's had for dyson sales on Memorial Day vacuum purchases. The question I have is: Who pays for the Gift Card? KOHL's, HD, and/or dyson and/or both. The latter is something us old timers in the industry call "co-op." I'm betting it's the latter. Both pay a part and the mail-in-rebates are the paper trail HD (Kohl's) uses for dyson to ante up. There you have it. HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY and Birthday to the good ole USA. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/05/07 at 8:58am R C Willey (supposedly the largest retailer of furniture, electronics, appliances, and flooring in the South West) is giving away a new HOOVER Tempo upright vacuum with any new carpet purchase $999 or higher. Special edition--Red. http://www.rcwilley.com/ads/V2007070520070708cp.pdf One of my favorite HOOVER upright vacuums for the money--about $70 retail--and consistently rated in the top 10 best vacuums by Consumer Reports year after year. BTW, RC Willey stores and Web Site carry the full line of HOOVER vacuums and parts. Other major vacuum brands carried by RC Willey besides HOOVER and to a lesser extent than HOOVER: BISSELL, dyson and Panasonic. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/06/07 at 7:16am For dyson buyers, Overstock.com has discounted prices from MSRP (more than dyson MAP allows for advertising) on old models: http://www.overstock.com/search?keywords=dyson+vacuum&searchtype=k&fp=f&kid=2000045857&cid=96202 Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by RAT on 07/06/07 at 9:28am There's one caveat about - overstock.com. Many of their Dysons are refurbished returns with 180 day warranties. One doesn't know why the vacuums were returned. Were they a poor fit due to the carpet type? Were they defective? Did they clean poorly? Or simply buyer's regret? Hopefully the next vacuum review issue of Consumer Reports (fall 2007) will have some data on Dyson's reliability. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/06/07 at 9:31am Check out E-BAY ,theres 7 pages of dysons listed right now...... and you get to put out the fires fellow dyson warranty dealers :D :D :D. O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/06/07 at 12:20pm RAT wrote:
Hello RAT: Yes, indeed. These dysons are refurbs with 180 day warranties. Interestingly the Overstock.com Web Site with the dyson ads and prices don't say this upfront--REFURBS [as required by law]. But if you click a few more times and navigate thru the screens you get this additional info. Shades of Regina in the 80's. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/06/07 at 12:30pm old-timer wrote:
Hello OT: A nice way for dyson to treat its indy's. The big box and internet retailers make the do ra me, and the indy's sweep up to get the crumbs. If I were a vacuum store indy, I'd thumb my nose at dyson. And do the dyson warranty and/or repair work if the customer doesn't want to ship it back to dyson in Chicago and do it for top dollar. To heck with the dyson warranty store status. Or trade the dyson in on an indy brand [which may have been the cases for many of these returns]. Obviously there are tons of new sale dyson returns that are now refurbs and repacks [all counted as new dyson sales at least once and possibly twice--shades of Regina in the 80's]. And with a 180 day guarantee, likely that these dyson refurbs will be in need of parts and repairs after the 180 days are up. Sock it to dyson. Give it a dose of its own medicine. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/06/07 at 3:47pm COSTCO is selling the IRobot Rhoomba Scheduler for $259 BEFORE a $50 Manufacturer's rebate for $50. So the final price is $209. Offer is good thru July 30. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/07/07 at 12:37pm Kohl's is planning to heat up summer sales on all of its floorcare merchandise soon. Giftcards AND cash back rewards for Kohl's credit card floorcare purchases. Should be receiving the details soon and will post on the Forum. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/09/07 at 9:03am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Starting July 12 thru the 17, for every $50 in Kohl's charge card purchases in store and on-line, buyers receive $10 in Kohl's cash coupons redeemable in Kohl's stores only July 18-August 2, 2007. So how does this help vacuum shoppers and buyers? Well, here's how. From July 12-17, the dyson DC07 for $399 and DC17 Absolute for $549 get buyers a $50 Kohl's Gift card (by mail and for in-store buyers). And that's not all. The Rug Doctor Mighty Pro has the same deal and the BISSELL ProHeat 2X top of th line rug cleaner. Plus store sales on other vacuum makes and models. Check stores for the brands and prices. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/09/07 at 9:25am Let's look at the vacuums on sale this week by the big box retailers. First, the no shows and no goes: Kohl's. Why? Probably gearing up for the sale to come July 12, see above. BEST BUY has the Eureka Maxima bagless upright for $59; the BISSELL Cleanview bagless upright for $74; the HOOVER WT bagless upright for $159 AND the HOOVER WT 2 BAGGED upright for $229. That's it. No others. TARGET has a newbie for sale: Finally the new Eureka Capture bagless upright for $129. With the self-cleaning SpinDuster [hailed by Consumer Reports for its ingenuity and effectiveness]; the Eureka Optima bagless for $55; the BISSELL CleanView 11 for $75 [a newbie for TARGET just like the HOOVER Elite Rewind last week]. I mentioned that retailers are scrubbing, culling and adding vacuums to get the most of the brands and models in stock and on sale. Here is the proof at TARGET. Also at TARGET, the Lift-off for $169 BEFORE a $20 giftcard. Excellent deal. And finally the DC17 Absolute Animal for $549--no deals on it. May have to wait to Labor day. Linens-n-Things has no vacuums on sale save a Dustbuster rechargeable for $9. But it has the 20 percent off coupon valid thru Juy 29 on dysons too. And recall the new dyson models are in stock and on the Web site. Circuit City has the BISSELL CleanView Power Trak for $99 AND the dyson DC18 lite for $469. Unfortunately, both CC and TARGET are still quoting the dyson claim to shame: Never clogs and never loses suction. Advertising Standards Agency came down on dyson for this after over 30 dyson buyers cried foul. XClaiming their dysons clogged and lost suction both. Some retailers still haven't gotten the word and/or "cleaned up their act" as we use to say in Jerzee. [Kudos to Kohl's AND Lowes for doing so very quickly]. Just wondering if this has and will hurt dyson sales. A question for the dyson fawners to ponder and answer. KMart has the Kenmore bagless canister for $39 (With automatic cord winder feature); BISSELL QuickSteamer for $69 with free solution; BISSELL Momentum upright bagless for $99 and the HOOVER WT bagless upright for $159. Finally, this week's winner. ORECK with a full page in the Smart Source section of the Sunday paper. For the XL Deluxe, one of Dave's favorite. And all the bennies: 5 year warranty, 3 free annual services; housekeeper compact canister; cordless iron and free shipping. And don't forget the free in home no risk no bligation 30 day trial. Such a deal. And if you qualify: Only $22 a month. That's all folks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by hoovcand on 07/09/07 at 12:22pm :)dont forget hoovercandy made a stand too of the asa rulling |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 07/11/07 at 5:49pm Hi Carmine, The following machine, the so aptly titled "South Asian Pacific HEPA Bagless Upright . . ." probably missed your Sunday Parade. Wnere on Earth did Best buy dig up a $25.00 vacuum? Have you seen this or is this an online only item? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7986628&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat115600050004&id=1155070006271 Regards, Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/11/07 at 7:53pm Hello Venson: Verry interesting. But not surprising. Why? Big box retailers are culling, scrubbing and adding new merchandise to the shelves to position themselves for the last quarter of 2007 and the Holiday and year end sales. Witness the new EUREKA Capture bagless upright models, the Dirt Devil bagless upright i-vacuum and Spinnergy, HOOVER bagless Mach 3-4-5 upright models, HOOVER bagless nanolite, the new Euro-pro Infinity bagless upright exclusive for COSTCO, the new GE bagged canister and companion bagless upright, and on and on. $25 HEPA bagless upright with cordwinder. 10 pounds. 7 amps. BEST BUY will sell alot of them. I'll buy at least one. The name says it all. ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/12/07 at 9:02am Talking about launching new models, BISSELL updated it's "seasoned" Lift-off with the new "Lift-off" Revolution Pet Bagless Upright for $169. Lowe's has in stock and ready for sale. Lowe's and it's competitor Home Depot are frequently missed in the Sunday sales' ads because they advertise mid week. This week is no exception. Both retailers are huge sellers of vacuum cleaners. From July 12-19, ALL HOOVER FLOORCARE products are on sale at Lowe's stores for 20 percent off. Including the HOOVER Floormate hard surface cleaner; SteamVac All Terrain; and Elite bagless upright REWIND. That's not all: As mentioned above the new BISSELL Lift-off Revolution Pet Bagless upright; EUREKA Altima bagless for $79; and the dyson DC18 lite for $469. As I previously mentioned Lowe's was one of the first retailers to conform to the ASA ruling against dyson and scrub the infamous claim to shame: Never loses suction, never clogs. Fact is Lowe's removed the dyson claim from all ads while the ASA was still considering its ruling and hadn't offcially announced it. Kudos to Lowe's and Kohl's [for doing the same]. Even dyson corrected its Web site finally. :) HOME DEPOT which like SEARS and BEST BUY and other big box retailers are feeling the brunt of the protracted housing market downturn on 2007 operations and sales, has vacuum sales from 7/12-7/18. The models are the HOOVER HEPA EmPower bagless upright for $99; BISSELL ProHeat 2x deep cleaner for $199; and Dirt Devil EXTREME POWER Cordless Hand Held vacuum for $39. And remember HD's promise: If you find the same item at a lower price at any other retailer HD will beat the competitors' price by 10 percent. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/12/07 at 9:31am How about the consumers that bought into the never clogs,never looses suction [false advertising B.S.]. Can they get their money back? after being lied to by Dyson,and maybe on purpose........... These con men have made it very difficult for the legit dealers that really know the truth........... O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/12/07 at 12:28pm Jimmy P/OT: Excellent question Pro. Yes, they can in a class action lawsuit against dyson and the dyson retailers where they purchased their dysons. We're not talking about "sales puffing" now. The infamous dyson claim to shame is a blatant untruth used to sell a product at a price way higher than warranted. Along with the corrollary false claim that dysons cost "zero" dollars to use and operate, dyson knowingly perpetrated untrue product claims to foster its own profits for over 5 years at the expense of unknowing consumers. The ASA ruling against dyson and dyson's own actions in scrubbing it's Web site of the infamous claim to shame: "Never clogs; never loses suction" almost guarantees IMHO an out of court settlement by dyson with all the litigants. Dyson has been very hush hush about the ASA ruling and doesn't want the negative press and publicity. Which you know will follow. Ironic that the man and company who started and expanded his dyson business with funds from law suits against 2 other vacuum makers, now is on the receiving end and will have to pay. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/12/07 at 12:37pm old-timer wrote:
A moron can screw up anything. The person who clogs a Dyson would likely bend a pry bar. Anyone buying a Eureka boss should also be able to get a refund because it does not clean better than Dyson as advertised. Neither does the Hoover fusion. Looks like BS splatters. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/12/07 at 12:45pm HARDSELL wrote:
Yes HARDSELL you're correct. BS splatters and when it does take cover. The legal difference is that dysons cost their buyers $500 plus and Eureka Boss and HOOVER Fusion's cost $100. You always go after the "moron" with the deepest pockets in a class action lawsuit. That would be dyson and its retailers in this case [if you don't know]. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/12/07 at 2:15pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Yes HARDSELL you're correct. BS splatters and when it does take cover. The legal difference is that dysons cost their buyers $500 plus and Eureka Boss and HOOVER Fusion's cost $100. You always go after the "moron" with the deepest pockets in a class action lawsuit. That would be dyson and its retailers in this case [if you don't know]. Carmine D. [/quote] Thanks for your thoughts Carmine. I was taught that honesty should apply to all rich or poor. Seems that you think a lie is alright if you are after the more successful. Perhaps that explains your opinions since you are a pup trying to go against the big dogs. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/12/07 at 3:31pm Hey HARDSELL: Thanks for the compliment. That makes 3 today and the day ain't over yet. First the hostess at the Casino today called me Honey, then the waitress at lunch said I was in great shape as she squeezed my arm muscle and eyed balled (she was younger than my daughter) my tan legs and now you call me a 'pup.' I'm on a roll. ;) If all were honest like you and I there would be no need for the ASA and lawyers, judges, and prisons. Since we are being honest, in your expert opinion, what do you think will happen to dyson sales and prices now that dyson is precluded from using its mantra: NEVER loses suction, NEVER clogs. (NEVER say NEVER). Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/12/07 at 9:06pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
First, I did not compliment you. I doubt that the omission of never loses suction and never clogs will have any negative impact on Dyson sales. Too much word on the street that Dyson is #1 for cleaning. All the others are imitating and tryhing to catch Dyson. I would like to see Dyson prices drop, however a manufacturer does not drop prices when they are at the peak. Sometimes that is a mistake, sometimes not. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/12/07 at 10:45pm Hello HARDSELL: Word on the street? Really? Main street or Wall Street? Talking about word on the street, you may have heard that the Dow soared almost 300 points today. Why? Well, in part due to retail sales reports for June. And quess who beat the street? Wal*Mart. That's right. Street was predicting 1 percent increase in same store sales for June for Wal*Mart, in part because of the poor showings by SEARS and BEST BUY. Instead, Wal*Mart reported an increase of 2.4 percent and its stock went up over a buck to $48 plus a share. I thought about you today and your opinions on price and quality. Why? It seems a $2.00 bottle of Charles Shaw Chardonay [in the vernacular called 2 BUCK Chuck] from CA beat out $18, $55, and $125 bottles of Chardonay that were part of over 55 wine brands tested by a group of expert wine taste testers. The 2 BUCK Chuck wine is sold exclusively by an upscale grocery store. When the store owner was asked why he sells such an inexpensive wine brand to his upscale clientele, he replied because his customers like it, buy it and it's worth the price. Sounds like the ingredients for quality. On the dyson sales, I respectively disagree with you my friend. But I know where you are coming from. As I said, where you stand depends oftentimes on where you sit. On the contrary, I believe the 5 year old dyson "lie" will hurt dyson's brand name with past and future buyers. And dyson's tarnished brand name now will have an adverse impact on dyson in the future. You know that better than me. It's hard to build and keep a trusted brand name in the USA. Like ORECK and HOOVER for example. Both were instrumental in providing evidence to the ASA which was detrimental to dyson. And once your brand name is tarnished, it's almost impossible to restore. Like putting a drop of food coloring into a pristine glass of clear crystal water. Once the coloring contaminates the clear water, you can never get it out. Dyson is taking the possibility of a class action suit by past buyers very serious. Why? For 2 reasons. If the public news about the lawsuit doesn't bankrupt dyson, the payout settlement surely will. You don't knowingly lie about a $500 plus retail product and get off with a handslap from the ASA. People are very unforgiving when they get "duped" and spend their money based on false and misleading product claims. I suspect at least one, maybe more of the over 30 complainants against dyson is (are) lawyers. And have started the legal proceedings in motion. Kudos to Jimmy the Pro who appended the dyson claim to shame as follows so as to be truthful: "Never clogs....Never loses suction" and Jimmy added.......for a little while. Looks like Kenneth J. will get his justice after all. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/16/07 at 9:31am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Starting July 12 thru the 17, for every $50 in Kohl's charge card purchases in store and on-line, buyers receive $10 in Kohl's cash coupons redeemable in Kohl's stores only July 18-August 2, 2007. So how does this help vacuum shoppers and buyers? Well, here's how. From July 12-17, the dyson DC07 for $399 and DC17 Absolute for $549 get buyers a $50 Kohl's Gift card (by mail and for in-store buyers). And that's not all. The Rug Doctor Mighty Pro has the same deal and the BISSELL ProHeat 2X top of th line rug cleaner. Plus store sales on other vacuum makes and models. Check stores for the brands and prices. Carmine D. [/quote] KOHL's looks like the winner for vacuum sales this week. Check Web Site and store nearest to you for details. Kudos to KOHL's for dropping the false dyson claims "NEVER CLOGS, NEVER LOSES SUCTION" in its dyson vacuum ads. The action is mandated by the Advertising Standards Agency in a June 2007 ruling against dyson after 3 dozen complaintants filed an action against dyson with the agency. Several no shows no goes including BEST BUY and TARGET. Circuit City has the HOOVER Elite Rewind bagless upright for $89 and the BISSELL HEALTHY HOME for $249. BIG LOTS enters the sales venue this week with the Eureka Uno bagless upright for $60 with a caveat: Refurbs and repacks. However these come with the Manufacturer's warranty of one year just like the new. ORECK passed on the Sunday ads but hit the weeklies with the XL Classic for $299 and a bunch of good stuff to boot with purchase. Kmart's in too with the weekly usual sales brands and models: BISSELL, Kenmore and Dirt Devil. BUT with a newbie from DD: the Extreme Quick Vac stick/lightweigh upright for $44. Emulates the HOOVER Nanolite. That's all folks. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/16/07 at 3:22pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
A complaint including Hoover/Tandy in the UK to an UK agency can not mandate actions in the US by an US company. Anyone can read the actual rulling. The ruling backs the science behind the dyson claim and makes it clear that dyson did not intend to mislead but states 1 specific UK TV commercial was not worded clearly enough and might unintentionally leave some viewers with incorrect assumptions. This has no bearing in the US at all. It is apples and oranges, for example many ad's in foreign countries would be fined and banned here as indecent but we do not get to mandate rules abroad. In some european countries there are strict prohibitions against any comparitive advertising of any kind, no matter how truthful, which would make 90% of all advertising here illegal and yet ads ruled illegal in belgium are the norm here and like this ruling have nothing to do with what can be "mandated" here. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/16/07 at 3:27pm JimB wrote:
A complaint including Hoover/Tandy in the UK to an UK agency can not mandate actions in the US by an US company. Anyone can read the actual rulling. The ruling backs the science behind the dyson claim and makes it clear that dyson did not intend to mislead but states 1 specific UK TV commercial was not worded clearly enough and might unintentionally leave some viewers with incorrect assumptions. This has no bearing in the US at all. It is apples and oranges, for example many ad's in foreign countries would be fined and banned here as indecent but we do not get to mandate rules abroad. In some european countries there are strict prohibitions against any comparitive advertising of any kind, no matter how truthful, which would make 90% of all advertising here illegal and yet ads ruled illegal in belgium are the norm here and like this ruling have nothing to do with what can be "mandated" here. [/quote] Hello JimB: Then I guess you and dyson have nothing to worry about. NOT! ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/16/07 at 4:00pm This huge settlement prediction will go the route of your assurance to all that Dyson would be out of Best Buy by the end of the year (several years ago). |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/16/07 at 5:58pm Hey JimB: BEST BUY stores are culling their dyson models as we speak, as are several other big box retailers. Why? Lack of sales. Too long on the shelves. To expensive to carry in inventory. And more reasons. I'm predicting an out-of-court settlement by dyson. In the millions of US dollars. I'm also predicting that larger numbers of dysons (sold as refurbs and repacks on the internet now) will be returned by buyers to big box retailers where they were purchased. Why? Dyson buyers will say they were mislead and deceived by the dyson product claims and they want their money back. Retailers will be forced to oblige or risk being sued themselves for having sold the dysons under false and misleading pretenses through false written dyson product claims. Retailers will have to refund a portion of the sales price to the consumers to appease them and/or trade in the dyson models for a less expensive brand with a refund of money to the dyson consumers and/or outright dyson vacuum returns and no in-kind purchases. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/17/07 at 11:31am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Complete and utter rubbish. Any consumer can tell by looking around themselves. Dyson's are in more retailers, lead off more vacuum aisles, and are in a greater number of retailers ad's than ever before. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/17/07 at 12:42pm JimB wrote:
Complete and utter rubbish. Any consumer can tell by looking around themselves. Dyson's are in more retailers, lead off more vacuum aisles, and are in a greater number of retailers ad's than ever before.[/quote] Hey JimB: I do a weekly parade of the vacuum sales on this Forum and this thread. Do you read it? Dyson vacuum products are conspicuously absent from the Sunday retailers' ads and have been for weeks. Dyson ads will continue to be scarce in the months counting down to the 2007 Holiday season. The ASA ruling which forced dyson to "revise" its brand's mantra will make it more difficult for retailers to command the huge dyson prices. The only option dyson will have to continue its pervasive presence among the big box retailers is by lowering its prices to be more in line with the current market prices for bagless vacuums. Time will tell if dyson, after 5 years of not doing so, will make wholesale drops in its prices. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/17/07 at 3:26pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I will if you like, lets take a quick look at what you said about the ad for the store you declared the winner this week. Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Ok so Kohls your winner this week. There are 3 vacuums in the Kohls ad and 2 of them are dyson's. 2/3's of your winning ad leaves them "conspicously absent"? That seems conspicously hypocritical. The two dysons in the ad are in the lead position of the ad and are listed only by price and model name no marketing commentary. Your conspiracy theory has a UK advertising agency ruling in late june on a specific UK tv commercial "mandating" change in a US print ad. First anyone with any knowledge of retail knows this 30 some page color ad distributed nationwide was wrapped months before this ruling not put together in the 2 or so weeks from ruling to ad shipment. The claim that a UK ad agency ruling on a specific UK tv ad can somehow mandate what can be in a print ad in the US is just plain dumb. I believe you also note that best buy's ad had no vacuums. Not terribly surprising as we both know it is the slow season for vac's. You say "Dyson ads will continue to be scarce in the months counting down to the 2007 Holiday season." How about a wager on if dyson is present in the next best buy vacuum ad or if it will be conspicously absent? I say it is in the next ad with vacuums and as vacuums were not in last weeks at all I say it is with in the next 2 weeks. Just a gentlemans wager to see who is right and if you really believe what you type. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/17/07 at 4:34pm Hey JimB: I detect a real desperation in the tone of your posts. Wanting to bet on whether dyson ads will be upcoming at one of dyson's biggest retail partner. The store that encouraged the company to launch in the USA in April 2002. BTW, the ASA ruling was reported June 1, 2007. Not late June. Don't tell me that you didn't read it again! I understand the dyson store prices at Kohl's are really lower than the prices advertised. Why? Kohl's stores are culling these dyson models from their inventory. Why? The DC07 is old, obsolete and out-of-date. These DC07 All Floors have been in the Kohl's inventory for several years. NPD counted them as sales in 2004! Still unsold. After almost 3 years. The dyson DC17 sales are miserable. The sales have been terrible since the DC17 was introed in September 2006. Kohl's (and other retailers) probably will no longer stock the DC17 once the existing inventories are sold out. Why? Too heavy. Too costly. Biggest reason: Customers are not buying the DC17. My sense is BEST BUY will have dyson vacuum ads upcoming. Why? BEST BUY stores are also culling its dyson models. The recent span of several weeks of dyson down time with no advertised sales has a purpose. It's needed to do the nationwide dyson inventory counts before and then after the dyson advertised sales. Why? To note the number of dyson models sold and/or not sold before and after sales times to determine the final models for culling. BEST BUY management reviews inventory on hand against sales on a regular bases. Why? To measure the sales trends and inventory levels historically over time. When the sales numbers show consistent decreases while the inventory levels show increasing shelf time, the merchandise gets flagged and monitored and watched for culling. It gets replaced by merchandise with consistently stable and/or increasing sales and less inventory shelf time. As I've mentioned, the housing downturn has had a severe and long lasting negative impact on household appliance sales. Starting towards the end of 2005 and lasting through now and beyond. Vacuums included. Especially the high priced vacuums at the big box retailers like SEARS and BEST BUY, two of dyson's biggest sales partners by your own admission on the Forum. Both retailers recently reported lower than expected May and June sales, quarterly sales, and year to date sales. Both retailers revised their estimates for profits and sales through the end of the year and into next year. Their reasons. The protracted housing market sales decline which will last, by most experts' assessments, through the end of 2008. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/17/07 at 6:51pm And dont forget about the bo jackers and bootleggers on E-BAY,the more the dyson gets trashed the more the prices will come down. How many dysons you get stuck with Jimbo...... O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Dyson INVENTS BIG on 07/17/07 at 8:29pm old-timer wrote:
Your glee for and support for shoplifters and thieves that fence (a sugar coated word for selling stolen merchandise) NIB Dyson’s on eBay is pathetic. Not only Dyson’s but any power tool, electronics, Playstation games, Frontline flee medicine, etc, etc. Just about anything one would want from Best Buy, Sears, Home Depot, Lowe’s, etc. can easily be bid on and “won” on eBay via individuals or eBaystore/pawnshops. All the while higher prices are passed onto the upstanding moral consumer. Why don’t you post your business address here or elsewhere and invite whores and thieves to steal from you or your loved ones just so people who do not like you can get a kick, a glee from your loss? Here is just one more link proving thieves sell on eBay. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,206751,00.html?sPage=fnc.national/crime Also… In the first week of August CNBC t.v. series “Business Nation” is broadcasting "a how thieves fence on eBay" segment. Below: A warm and wonderful human being with child stealing a Dyon vacuum... http://www.massmostwanted.org/images/casePhotos/woburn3.JPG |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/17/07 at 11:36pm Hello JimB: Here's my final addendum to our Forum posts and discussions about the KOHL's dyson sales this week and the ASA ruling. If you take the time and read the KOHL'S descriptions of the dyson vacuums on its Web site you'll note that conspicuously absent from the dyson ads and specs are the words: NEVER CLOGS, NEVER LOSES SUCTION. In fact there are no words and/or verbage even remotely similar to these. For example, dyson and its retailers in the past commonly used the following verbage [or similar] in its ads and specs: "The only vacuum that doesn't clog and doesn't lose suction." You won't find those words either. And you won't find: "Doesn't lose suction" with any of the dyson KOHL's ads and product specs. But you will on the dyson Web Site. Why the contradiction? Many reasons. Suffice it to say that if KOHL's used the verbage on the dyson Web site then it would also have to site the lab name and test. Which to KOHL's buyers is too complicated and confusing to comprehend. So KOHL's scrubbed the claim so it would not have to add the same reference that dyson uses for the lab and test. These changes to the dyson ads are just about 6 weeks after the ASA ruling was reported in the news on June 1, 2007. As I mentioned several times previously on this Forum and in this thread, LOWE's scrubbed these words and phrases from its dyson ads months ago. Long before the ASA ruling was reported. Why? It's got some employees with savvy vacuum industry expertise. And knew it was the honest and right path to take BEFORE the ASA ruling against dyson. Other USA big box retailers, as you and I know from past experience, will follow KOHL's and LOWE'S lead. Why? Advertising practices and standards among all major big box retailers are very common and pervasive especially for vacuum brands, makes and models. Even the product prices are the same and/or close. It's been that way for more than half a century in the USA. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/18/07 at 8:46am old-timer wrote:
Hello Jimmy the P/OT: You're right. From economics and business points of view the two significant driving forces on consumer product prices are supply and demand. The two forces work in tandem in a free market like the USA. As supply [of the product] goes up, if consumers' demand stays the same, or goes down, the prices of the product have to go down [or stay unsold and on the shelves and/or in warehouses]. As consumer demand for the product goes up, if the supply stays the same, or goes down, the prices of the product go up. As the supply of new/used dyson vacuums increase, with internet sales of both new/used, big box retailers have more difficulty in selling new dysons for MSRP. This puts pressure on the sellers to offer buyer incentives, as we see this week with KOHL's and dysons and/or reduce prices [which we see when we visit the stores and check the prices]. This makes it difficult for retailers and dyson to keep the dyson prices inflated. And dyson retailers like JimB have to be "creative" and "flexible" with prices to continue to sell dysons at the same and/or increasing numbers. Yes, you can say to customers that you offer dyson service and parts. But that doesn't get you the new dyson sale if your prices are substantially higher than the market prices. The more of the supply on the market the more pressure to lower prices to sell. Given the proposition of keeping the unsold new dysons on hand and/or lowering the prices to sell, I would bet 9 out of 10 business people would reduce the prices to sell. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/18/07 at 8:49am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
These words from Lowe's web site: "Dyson the first vacuum cleaner that doesn't lose suction" *No loss of suction* *The vacuum cleaner that doesn't lose suction* Seems that those savvy employees do not share your opinion. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/18/07 at 8:59am HARDSELL wrote:
These words from Lowe's web site: "Dyson the first vacuum cleaner that doesn't lose suction" *No loss of suction* *The vacuum cleaner that doesn't lose suction* Seems that those savvy employees do not share your opinion.[/quote] Hi HARDSELL: As I mentioned, LOWE's scrubbed the verbage from the dyson ads. This thread and my posts deal with the printed and published weekly newspaper vacuum sales ads. You know that HS. I did not say the Lowe's Web site. Just as dyson took it's time to change its Web site, LOWE's and other retailers will need time too to change their Web sites. Probably looking at what and how dyson says before crafting their own verbage. Would you be so kind to post again when LOWE's does make the changes to its Web Site to remove/revise these dyson claims? Or are you in a state of denial that says LOWE's and other dyson retailers will not make the changes? You know what it takes to build and keep a brand name's credibility. Dyson's was built on false and misleading product claims. Because of the ASA ruling, dyson is trying to reinvent its brand's mantra after 5 years of: NEVER CLOGS, NEVER LOSES SUCTION. Do you think dyson will be able to do so? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/18/07 at 9:13am These words from Lowe's web site: "Dyson the first vacuum cleaner that doesn't lose suction"B.S. *No loss of suction*B.S. *The vacuum cleaner that doesn't lose suction,AND MORE B.S. O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by old-timer on 07/18/07 at 9:35am Dyson INVENTS BIG wrote:
Your glee for and support for shoplifters and thieves that fence (a sugar coated word for selling stolen merchandise) NIB Dyson’s on eBay is pathetic. Not only Dyson’s but any power tool, electronics, Playstation games, Frontline flee medicine, etc, etc. Just about anything one would want from Best Buy, Sears, Home Depot, Lowe’s, etc. can easily be bid on and “won” on eBay via individuals or eBaystore/pawnshops. All the while higher prices are passed onto the upstanding moral consumer. Why don’t you post your business address here or elsewhere and invite whores and thieves to steal from you or your loved ones just so people who do not like you can get a kick, a glee from your loss? Here is just one more link proving thieves sell on eBay. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,206751,00.html?sPage=fnc.national/crime Also… In the first week of August CNBC t.v. series “Business Nation” is broadcasting "a how thieves fence on eBay" segment. Below: A warm and wonderful human being with child stealing a Dyon vacuum... http://www.massmostwanted.org/images/casePhotos/woburn3.JPG [/quote] Hi No Big Loss,There ARE many legit DEALERS,DISTRIBUTORS,EVEN SOME FACTORY STORES THAT SELL ON E-BAY,and have been doing so for many years,are you calling these business men and women thieves?.Many of these prople i know very well,and Carmine does also.Yes there are a few bad apples but they are caught and banned, Lets face it the internet is the way to go,and we also have retail stores,Some of these people have been in this industry for 25 plus years. Whats your background? O.T. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/18/07 at 12:46pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
These words from Lowe's web site: "Dyson the first vacuum cleaner that doesn't lose suction" *No loss of suction* *The vacuum cleaner that doesn't lose suction* Seems that those savvy employees do not share your opinion.[/quote] Hi HARDSELL: As I mentioned, LOWE's scrubbed the verbage from the dyson ads. This thread and my posts deal with the printed and published weekly newspaper vacuum sales ads. You know that HS. I did not say the Lowe's Web site. Just as dyson took it's time to change its Web site, LOWE's and other retailers will need time too to change their Web sites. Probably looking at what and how dyson says before crafting their own verbage. Would you be so kind to post again when LOWE's does make the changes to its Web Site to remove/revise these dyson claims? Or are you in a state of denial that says LOWE's and other dyson retailers will not make the changes? You know what it takes to build and keep a brand name's credibility. Dyson's was built on false and misleading product claims. Because of the ASA ruling, dyson is trying to reinvent its brand's mantra after 5 years of: NEVER CLOGS, NEVER LOSES SUCTION. Do you think dyson will be able to do so? Carmine D. [/quote] An ad is an ad. IF deception exists the penalty would be the same if the deception is on the web or the paper. If Lowes is as concerned about recourse as you would have us believe they have had ample time to change the web site. Of course we all know how you only want to manipulate your BS . |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/18/07 at 2:25pm Hello HARDSELL: I remind you of this after the LOWE's Web site is changed to conform to the ASA dyson rule making decisions. ;) You know as well as me that the retail ad people are different from the Web Site people and they don't always work in tandem. All things in due time, my good friend. BTW, I've visited 3 major dyson retailers in the last 3 days. All have pulled the dyson product literature typically displayed along with their dyson vacuums. You know the fold out pamphlets that read: "There's no bag or filter in a cyclone to obstruct the airflow, so it doesn't clog which means there's no loss of suction." If you read the ASA rule making decision it states dyson knows that the root cyclone technology can't remove all the dust/dirt from the airflow. Hence the pre and post motor dyson filters are installed to do so. These filters require user maintenance to keep from clogging. The real issue is not LOWE's and what it says about dysons. It's the dyson brand name. And what will dyson do in the future. It can't use: NEVER CLOGS, NEVER LOSES SUCTION. It's brand name mantra for the last 5 years. So what does it do? You are silent on the question. By your silence, you speak volumes. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/18/07 at 3:54pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Carmine, I purchased my Dyson with no thought of the Never Clogs, Never Loses Suction slogan. I have talked to numerous prospective buyers and none has ever mentioned this either. They only comment that it comes highly recommended from owners. I have never talked to a shopper or owner who was not totally satisfied with their Dyson. I have talked to numerous persons who are very critical of other brands. I will repeat, only a moron or filthy house keeper would clog a Dyson (or most any brand). If as you say stores are concerned about returns because of the advertising I believe that they would act immediately to eliminate the verbage in ALL ads. Lowes may very well pull the add, likely will. In the meantime it is not doom and gloom for Dyson as you say. You have preached doom for Dyson for years. Sort of like those predicting the end of the world as being tomorrow. I do not see doom for Dyson in the near future. I did predict that the Hoover Z would be a dud. How are they selling (with the near give away price)? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/18/07 at 4:29pm Take off the aluminum foil hat and come back from carmine conspiracy land to reality. Companies will always be changing, tweaking clarifying advertising, marketing, and commercials. Carmine will always take any act in the marketplace as impending doom for dyson. In reality dyson US earlier this year decided to move all of it's marketing team and operations from Chicago to New York. In doing this almost all of thier marketing has changed in the past year. Messaging is bound to change. To continue to claim that a British advertising board mandates what can be advertised in the USA is either delusional or downright dishonest. Carmine it is interesting how you covered both bases stating dyson ad's are absent and will be scarce while a few posts later stating that retailers will be advertising dyson because they aren't moving and giving your ad winner of the week to an ad that is 2/3 dyson. You have predicted both ways stating no matter what happens it will be proof of dyson impending doom. Your getting more desperate in you dyson attacks daily. Hey I haven't heard a McDonalds "want to make you smile" ad for a while that must me absolute proof that they really did not want to make me smile. I smell class action suit and the pending demise on McDonalds. ;) |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/18/07 at 4:31pm Hi HARDSELL: Stick to the topic. We're not comparing a product to a brand name. The dyson name brand is the issue not a HOOVER Z. I own a DC07 pink. I purchased almost one year ago from a major retailer. The product literature and carton make claims that are false and misleading based on the ASA dyson rule making decision. What would happen if I return it to the retailer and ask for my money back? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/18/07 at 4:39pm Hi JimB: MacDonald's is a wonderful company. I've owned it since it went public in 1965 at $22.00 a share. I still do. In 1987, 100 shares of MacDonalds bought in 1965 for $2200, with splits, totaled 18,000 shares for one half a million dollars. It is a publicly traded company subject to very stringent SEC disclosures and a Board of Directors who account to internal and external stakeholders including the investors. MacDonalds has built a trusted brand name with excellent products for money. It's stock price currently reflects the trust and pride its investors have in the company. I don't see any parallels between dyson and MacDonalds. None at all. We're discussing the dyson brand name not MacDonalds. MacDonald's is not at issue. Dyson is. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/18/07 at 4:54pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
Carmine, when did you ever stick to a topic. I think you know my point. You are once again predicting doom to Dyson. I am simply showing that you are delirious as usual by showing that you predicted the Z to be the demise of Dyson. It still ain't happened just like you other predictions. You should be like Paul Harvey and tell the rest of the story. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/18/07 at 5:32pm Thanks for the memory Hardsell. I love old Carmine predictions.... Carmine_Difazio wrote:
I bet Dyson is glad they have never had such high praise from this oracle. Although I did see a few Z's a the home depot this summer at a little over $300 off. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/18/07 at 6:22pm Hello guys: There is a serious flaw in your statement of opinion about the changeover of the dyson advertising companies/locations accounting for the dyson product literature getting pulled. It's customary for retailers to keep the old product literature displayed until the new is received to replace it. The old dyson literature and cardboard stands and holders are removed from the retailers I visited. There is no new dyson product literature replacing it. The retailers were told to remove them. Just sticking to the topic at hand. Dyson brand name, false and misleading product claims, and revised dyson sales advertising, product descriptions and specs. Nothing to do with Paul Harvey and HOOVER Z. But I enjoy and admire both. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/19/07 at 8:12am Carmine_Difazio wrote:
It has everything to do with Dyson. It shows your inability to forecast the doom of Dyson which you are attempting to do once again. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/19/07 at 8:49am Hi HARDSELL: No, I disagree. You are interpreting my assessment of the impact of the ASA dyson rule making decisions and the recent aftermath by dyson and retailers as my prediction of the demise of dyson. I did not say it would be dyson's demise. Although since YOU say it, I'll would agree: It may very well be the demise of dyson as we know it. Time will tell. What I said very clearly and simply is that it will have a negative and detrimental effect on dyson's brand name; dyson's credibility; and dyson's current and future sales. Why? Dyson built a brand name on false and misleading product claims. It is trying to reinvent itself now. Why? The June 2007 ASA rule making decision which mandates that dyson can no longer use: NEVER CLOGS, NEVER LOSES SUCTION in its ads and product literature. Retailers and dyson MUST and have already taken actions to conform to the ASA rule making decisions for dyson. I've said the ASA rule making decisions are a major blow to dyson. Like being hit from behind by a 2 by 4. Dyson never saw it coming. The consequences for dyson may/can be catastrophic: A class action lawsuit by the disgruntled consumers who filed the action with ASA against dyson; an increase in returned dysons to retailers by consumers who relied on the false dyson product claims to pay high prices for their dyson vacuum purchases; a tarnished dyson brand name; and a pervasive air of distrust by both retailers and vacuum consumers against dyson now and into the future. I asked: Can dyson restore it's credibility? And I answered: Not with words alone even technical, scientific jargon. I said to the dyson fans and supporters, like you and JimB, who minimize and trivialize the consequences and significance of the ASA rule making decisions [and more importantly the severity of dyson's actions] that they are living in a huge state of denial. I said that a dyson employee who posts on the Forum, Matt mmc, has been conspicuously absent about these matters. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/19/07 at 2:16pm Very entertaining the spin on this ASA opinion. It seems our resident Anti dyson crusader has taken it as gospel, a mandate, and rule making. Set aside for a moment the false claims that this european advisory group can mandate advertising rules in the USA lets look at the some actual words in the opinion that Carmine is touting and heralding. Start of ASA quote- "We understood that neither the pre-motor nor the post-motor filters fitted in a Dyson cleaner were used in the primary separation of dust and dirt from the air. We recognised that Dyson had intended the claim to highlight the difference between the filtration system of Dyson cleaners and that of other cleaners that relied on a filter or bag for the primary separation process; the clogging of that filter or bag would result in an eventual loss of suction. We considered, however, that viewers were likely to understand the claim ... a Dyson doesnt rely on a filter so theres nothing to clog" to imply Dyson cleaners did not have a filter, which meant they could not become clogged, although we appreciated that this was not the message Dyson had intended to convey. We noted the post-motor filter collected carbon particles and other emissions to prevent their passing into the atmosphere, but also understood that it did not clog and was designed to last the lifetime of the cleaner. We considered that with reference to this filter, therefore, there was no viewer detriment in the ad's suggestion that that filter did not exist and the phrase "a Dyson doesn't rely on a filter", in isolation, in relation to the post-motor filter only, was unlikely to mislead. We also noted, however, although it was not involved in the primary separation of dust, and this was the difference that Dyson wanted to point out, the maintenance of the pre-motor filter was essential to ensure it did not become clogged. We considered, therefore, to state, without qualification, ... a Dyson doesnt rely on a filter so theres nothing to clog" was likely to mislead." End of ASA quote Carmine, More to come, but I have do ask do you really want to tout this as something you agree with? |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/19/07 at 3:56pm Hey JimB: And you left out the final part of the rule making decision that says the dyson false and misleading claims ARE UNUSABLE! That's the most important part of the decision! Like I said, where you stand depends oftentimes on where you sit. The ASA is a rule making body for the advertising industry. The parties in the ASA dispute agree in advance to abide by the rule making decisions of the ASA. In other words, they MUST comply because they agreed in advance to do so. If the parties do not, as you know, the ASA can refer the offender(s), in this case dyson with its false and misleading product claims, to a body that can take legal action against dyson. So the result is that the rule making body [ASA] has the same effect as law. Are we in agreement on this my friend? Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by JimB on 07/19/07 at 4:48pm "The ASA is a rule making body for the advertising industry." FALSE, the ASA makes no rules or laws. Advertising industry, seems intentionaly overbroad as they only look at UK ads according UK standards and have no bearing at all in the USA. Furthermore your touted opinion states: 1) We understood that neither the pre-motor nor the post-motor filters fitted in a Dyson cleaner were used in the primary separation of dust and dirt from the air. (wow) 2)We recognised that Dyson had intended the claim to highlight the difference between the filtration system of Dyson cleaners and that of other cleaners that relied on a filter or bag for the primary separation process; the clogging of that filter or bag would result in an eventual loss of suction. (backing the guts of dyson's main claim) 3)We considered, however, that viewers were likely to understand the claim ... a Dyson doesnt rely on a filter so theres nothing to clog" to imply Dyson cleaners did not have a filter... although we appreciated that this was not the message Dyson had intended to convey. (wait a minute the poster here says they found intentional misleading or was that claim intentionally misleading?) 4)We noted the post-motor filter collected carbon particles and other emissions to prevent their passing into the atmosphere, but also understood that it did not clog and was designed to last the lifetime of the cleaner (Carmine touting a finding that the dyson hepa filter does not clog and is lifetime, wow.) 5)We also noted, however, although it was not involved in the primary separation of dust, and this was the difference that Dyson wanted to point out, the maintenance of the pre-motor filter was essential to ensure it did not become clogged. We considered, therefore, to state, without qualification, ... a Dyson doesnt rely on a filter so theres nothing to clog" was likely to mislead." (so the finding is that the washable filter is not involved in primary seperation, and will not clog with proper maintanence, so as long as dyson more clearly qualifies that the filter need rinsing twice a year this ruling backs that it won't clog, pretty stunning Carmine would be touting this...) :-[ |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by HARDSELL on 07/19/07 at 5:17pm Carmine_Difazio wrote:
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/19/07 at 5:34pm Hey Guys: You are too funny. Stopped at another retailer today of dysons. Different than the others I recently visited. All dyson product literature removed. Not one left. And no new dyson pamphlets/brochures in place (yet). It must be a huge coincidence that all the dyson product literature just got suddenly removed by all the dyson retailers at the same time. Maybe all the dyson materials will be auctioned off on eBay as dyson vacuum memorabilia with the heading: Remember when the dyson upright vacuums NEVER CLOGGED, AND NEVER LOST SUCTION. Here's the proof! ;) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/20/07 at 2:32pm Look to see new TV ads for Wal*Mart showing 30 second clips featuring name brand products at low prices. The latest is a result of the contract Wal*Mart has with a new ad agency: Interpublic Group's Martin Agency. The hope is to attract high income shoppers without losing its core budget conscious consumers. The new ad agency is partnering with Wal*Mart to develop and implement the message. Wal*Mart is one of a hand few of retailers posting better than expected earnings and profits for the year to date and its stock price is up vice most other retail stores' stock prices. Also look for a new "faith-based" line of toys and action figures on the Wal*Mart shelves. A new addition for the store and for retailers in general, which shied away from religious themed toys. The new "faith-based" toy line is expected to sell very well based on preliminary market research and surveys. BTW one of the retailers struggling this year, BEST BUY, selected a woman as Executive VP. The hope is the new VP, focusing on what sells to women, will attract more female customers to BEST BUY stores. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by guess_who on 07/20/07 at 8:44pm Hi Carmine, I've tagged on The Martin Agency's URL. http://www.martinagency.com/ I'm impressed but skeptical. Then, what else is new? Anyway, I've got to see how they do it. Holy Rodeo Drive! If it's all in the name, Wal-Mart's got a lot to live up to as it is known for schlock as much as Brooks Brothers is for quality. They're going to have to call out the window trimmers out en mass to put this one over. Best, Venson |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/21/07 at 6:18am Hello Venson: I heard big Wall's advertising budget is almost TWO MILLION dollars a day or $600 MILLION a year. I don't know many other companies, save McDonald's, that come close to that amount. As they say.......Money talks. Wal*Mart and Martin are developing a new marketing strategy that will develop the company's ads in conjunction with key suppliers. If you've been to a big Wall store lately there are large signs in its electronic departments highlighting major brands such as Philips and Samsung. The message is: "The brands you want, at the price you want." Wal*Mart is also actively recruiting suppliers to help finance TV ads, called "co-op" advertising funds, that many suppliers offer. Big Wall shunned this practice in the past. Wal*Mart will also factor into it's TV ads the rising cost of gasoline. Sending the message its silly to spend more on gas as well as everything else. So you're smart to drive to a Wal*Mart store to save. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/23/07 at 6:28am ORECK wins the week in vacuum ads with a full blown page in the SUNDAY PARADE section of the newspaper. Featured is the ORECK XL Ultra. And in the dailies too with the XL Classic. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: BEST BUY And Sunday Parade Post by Carmine_Difazio on 07/23/07 at 4:48pm The Eureka Capture: Lemon Lime green. Sold in Wal*Mart. Things I like about the Capture: Price $128 2 year warranty Brush roll is very suited for all carpets and rugs Rug height adjustment Washable filters Spin duster on board Things I don't like about the Capture: No vacuum carrying handle. Have to use the handle grip. Makes vacuum appear heavier and bulkier. Difficult for a short person to lift because it has a tall handle. Power Tool in the storage holder is a very tight fit. I can see some of the tools breaking when users pull and push in and out. Dirt bin removal and dumping is awkward and tricky. Empties from the top. No handle to remove and dump bin. Will be very messy. Carmine D. |
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