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guess_who

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FYI
04/04/07 at 6:56pm

Hi all,

Some guys root for ball teams -- I root for vacuum cleaners . . .

The Nilfisk Extreme canister vacuum, which I've long been waiting for the release of, is now in its testing stage in Canada. The rep I spoke with north of the border says that the company is carefully testing the new vacuum's 115 volt motor, somewhat different than the type used in other Nilfisk machines, to be sure it stands up to the companys longevity standards.

There are also matters involving approval by way of UL and its Canadian counterpart I was told. The very helpful Canadian rep I spoke with says that once things are ironed out and approved in Canada, we might reasonably anticipate a model for the U.S. about six months later. If released in Canada the models will be the X200 and X300.

I not only spoke with the rep in Canada but one here in the States. I stated it might prove a boon for Nilfisk to offer a broader array of quality household vacuums here. They easily rank with Miele and Bosch but, as with both mentioned, will probably end up being a bit pricey.

The link to the Extreme is -- http://www.nilfiskextreme.com/

Regards,

Venson

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Carmine_Difazio

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Reply #1 - 04/04/07 at 7:30pm

Hello Venson:

Thanks for the update on the Nilfisk "X." I recall you posting about this vacuum cleaner some time back. Now as then, I am impressed.

Why do I remember? Well among other reasons (I am somewhat OCD for vacuum cleaners), even an old man like me with a bad memory and all can't forget "Nadya Arnaoult" the vacuum's designer. And her saying about form and function coming together to make an excellent product. She's got that exactly right.

Please keep the Forum posted on the "X's" progress.

Carmine D.

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lionsweeperuser Senior Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 162	Re: FYI Reply #2 - 04/04/07 at 7:32pm Thanks for this info. from north of the border about the Nilfisk Extreme being tested. Please continue to keep us updated. Keep on rooting for vacuums! Lionsweeperuser
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Reply #3 - 04/09/07 at 8:34am

It looks like a curvier version of the "King" series; quite nice really.

But I have a couple of reservations about its functional design:

1. The pdf user manual shows and mentions that the HEPA filter is on the underside of the cleaner. This being so, then where are the exhaust ports? Aiming down onto the floor? If so, this will cause the allergens to become airborne, to the detriment of allergy sufferers.

2. The cleaner touts the HEPA-14 standard, but will it still be to that standard a few years down the line? I presume the receptacle and filter-cage that the HEPA filter sits in, will be made out of plastic. Plastic softens with heat and deforms, reducing the tight seal between filter and surround; even if there are rubber seals on the filter. I have seen this far too many times with other manufacturers' cleaners. Metal bodied cleaners do not suffer such problems.

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Reply #4 - 04/09/07 at 8:45am

Hello Trilobite:

Why not email the Nilfisk company with these issues and reservations and see what they tell you. It's hard to deny something in writing (the wonders of email). And let's us know. Please.

Quote from Trilobite on 04/09/07 at 8:34am:

It looks like a curvier version of the "King" series; quite nice really.

But I have a couple of reservations about its functional design:

1. The pdf user manual shows and mentions that the HEPA filter is on the underside of the cleaner. This being so, then where are the exhaust ports? Aiming down onto the floor? If so, this will cause the allergens to become airborne, to the detriment of allergy sufferers.

2. The cleaner touts the HEPA-14 standard, but will it still be to that standard a few years down the line? I presume the receptacle and filter-cage that the HEPA filter sits in, will be made out of plastic. Plastic softens with heat and deforms, reducing the tight seal between filter and surround; even if there are rubber seals on the filter. I have seen this far too many times with other manufacturers' cleaners. Metal bodied cleaners do not suffer such problems.

My sense is the motor is positioned vertically, so the HEPA exhaust filter sits at the bottom. The vacuum's exhaust, or part thereof, may be routed internally around the motor compartment to dissipate the motor heat and cool it down. Motor heat buildup is usually concentrated on the upper part of the components like the armature, fields and carbon brushes. By the time heat reaches the fans and bottom motor housing (usually metal) the heat build up is lessened. (And presumably where the filter housing will be attached.) And metal vacuums and motor components are better heat absorbers than plastic vacuums and motor components. (IMHO).

Carmine D.

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guess_who

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Reply #5 - 04/09/07 at 3:24pm

Hi Trilobite,

Good question. The HEPA inserts and removes at the bottom of the machine and is covered by a lid. I talked again with the person I spoke with last time. He believes that exhaust air flows out of the cleaner's periphery above the floor. I agree with this because, if you jump up the size of the schematic on page two of the PDF of the owner's manual you'll notice that there are vents indicated at the top of the (black) bottom portion of the machine.

To be sure, he said that once he's back at his office he'll check and ring me back. I'll let you know.

Regards,

Venson

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guess_who Junior Member Posts: 29	Re: FYI Reply #6 - 04/09/07 at 6:13pm Hi again gang, The Nilfisk rep got back to me. Although the HEPA must be removed and replaced at the undedrside of the Extreme canister no air exhausts from that area. As thought prior, exhaust air leaves the machine through vents at the top of the lower portion of the machine. Nilfisk is neat-o! Venson
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