Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 03/24/07 at 1:21pm:Quote from No Loss of Suction on 03/24/07 at 12:31pm:5 yr. old Oreck vs. 3 yr. old Dyson DC15 Ball
Vacuumed aprox. 700 sq. ft. of my neighbors carpet
...not science, just an observation.
P.S. Her new Dyson will be arriving soon.
Funny you should post this. I recently witnessed first hand a similar rug test at our local PostNet store (mail services) here in sunny Las Vegas Nevada. The owner, a die hard ORECK fan, and an employee, a die hard dyson fan, did the same rug test over the same store's carpet. Here's how it worked. The employee used her DC07 All Floors (approximately 3 years old) for one week (7 days) vacuuming as she normally would at home and dumping the dirt bin fequently. Then the owner used his ORECK (over 5 years old) and did the same for one week. He started with a brand new paper bag. At the end of his week, he had a bag full comparable to the likes of your picture. The owner then purchased a new ORECK upright for his store. (The test was done to decide what vacuum to buy to replace a BISSELL bagless that lasted less than 2 years).
Maybe the results would have been different with a DC15 Ball. But frankly, the PostNet store owner wasn't about to find out after the DC07 test. (The employee was shocked by the results!)
The moral of the story is: Trust but verify!
Carmine D.
Hello,
So true… trust but verify. I loved Ronald Reagan! He helped our family much when Governor of California. Our family will be eternally grateful to him. RIP Mr. President.
I did not post it, but 1 week after using my DC15 on my neighbor’s carpet - taking the above picture – I bought a new DC21 Stowaway canister. – Went back to my neighbor’s home and pulled another gob of crap out of her carpets (I tried to vac where I did with the 15 previously). With that, she said “I’m getting a Dyson”. I warned her that the Dyson’s were heavier than the Oreck and could not lay down flat like the Oreck. – She said “I don’t care, I’m getting a Dyson.”
As they say in real estate… location, location, location. Same with vacuum testing… conditions, conditions, conditions.
Retail conditions typically mean loooooow, low profile carpet and rugs. Yes the Oreck is better suited for this task than the DC07 Dyson. The Orecks mouth will lay flatter and tighter in these conditions allowing a better grip on the carpet. The 07 Dyson cannot do this. The Oreck also has the wiper blade that helps to create a tight seal onto carpet. The 07 Dyson does not have this. The Orecks have 2 very thin and low profile wheels that sink easily into pile, helping to create a seal onto commercial carpet or rugs. The 07 Dyson cannot do this. - It has 4 wide snow shoes called wheels that keep it from easily sinking into commercial pile. There are other conditions that could perhaps have favored Oreck over Dyson as well (new Oreck bag, old dirty premotor filter for Dyson. No HEPA bag for Oreck, HEPA filter for Dyson). Orecks entire contents dumped out for all to see. Fine dust collected by the Dysons cyclones remain stuck to inside of cyclone collection pipe, not retrieved and not viewed). Reasonable questions I believe.
The commercial or rug conditions favor the Oreck (for now). But get the 07 Dyson or perhaps better yet - get a Dyson with a dedicated motor to the beater brush DC15, 17 or 21 in a typical home and one gets the results I’ve posted. – Amazing.
Poor old Dyson in the PostNet store test - it probably did not stand a chance.
I am a David Oreck fan as well as a James Dyson fan. Oreck creating American jobs is awesome! But how many more jobs and how many move vacuums could they sell if innovation was king. With Dyson innovation is king. - A patent search will easily testify to this.
Dyson is an inventor and innovator first and a vacuum manufacture second. It’s just a matter of time before he invents a commercial vacuum (using his digital motor for example) that will probably do some amazing things and yes, bring the weight down too.
Sincerely,
No Loss of Suction
P.S. Here is what David Oreck said recently (nothing of innovating or alike)…
http://enterprise.southofboston.com/articles/2007/03/01/news/news/news17.txt