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/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl General >> Vacuum Cleaner Forum >> The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder /cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1177452798 Message started by Trilobite on 04/24/07 at 6:13pm |
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Title: The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder Post by Trilobite on 04/24/07 at 6:13pm A new range of Hoover cylinder cleaner has appeared on the Italian Hoover site: www.hoover.it/freemotion/ Nothing for UK, so far... :( |
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Title: Re: The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder Post by guess_who on 04/24/07 at 7:43pm Thanks Trilobite, They've come up with something that at least looks interesting. (Love the look of the gold one.) The wheeled floor nozzle is different in that there's a single strip of brush for bare floor cleaning. It isn't clear to me if the brush strip can also be used in tandem with the lint picker for carpet cleaning. This is what many models of American canister vacs employed in rug/floor tools for many years until the European style nozzles introduced all around brush strips that lifted out of the way for carpet cleaning. Though it's my first time to eyeball the thing, the extra swivel facility on the nozzle is of dubious usefulness as most people will be inclined to remove the nozzle and simply use the cleaner wand's open end to suck up dirt in narrow spaces. The video demo provided shows that at best you can clean half the width of a very narrow space and then would have to remove the nozzle and turn it the other way to clean the other side -- time consuming and probably not very effective either. The lever release for extending the telescopic wand is certainly different and new too I think. The hose handle however has me wondering. I think it would have to be at more of right angle to afford more comfort and ease for pushing like Oreck. Anyway -- they really look cool. Hope a couple versions -- with power nozzles of course -- make it this way. Thanks again, Venson |
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Title: Re: The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder Post by Trilobite on 04/24/07 at 9:40pm There is also a new Hoover Dishwasher, called the "Vision One", and a new 9kg washer called the "Vision Vortmax". The interesting thing is that the "Vortmax" logo has the same swirly design as the Hoover "Triple Vortex" vacuum logo! Long live the Triple Vortex! :D |
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Title: Re: The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/24/07 at 10:55pm Very innovative floor and rug tool design, and wand release. The swiveling floor/rug tool neck uses channels and tubing rather than flexible dirt path hosing. This design and operation replicates the HOOVER Slider. 2000 Watts (that's about 2.5 HP). Almost 2X as many Watts as the USA Miele's. Bagged with HEPA. Looks sleak and easy to maneuver. Perhaps the trend in new canisters (cylinders) is to stay with bags (rather than bagless). Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder Post by JD on 04/25/07 at 1:55pm At least Hoover Europe is trying to come up with fresh new idea's! The floor tool uses similuar design to the 'contact head' on the DC08 Dyson so it does not snow plough the dirt/debris to the skirting boards! Although looking on the web link can not see the opening part where the large debris would be sucked up! The cleaning head swivel neck could be prone to blockages! |
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Title: Re: The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/25/07 at 2:17pm JD wrote:
Should be easy to clean and clear. And no stress and wear and tear on flexible hoses. BTW, I was trying to figure out just how old is the flexible hose usage in rug and floor tools in the US vacuum industry. I think I did. For the old-timers I think it started with HOOVER in the Constellation model 82 in the early 50's. And the tool used the same hose as the flexible attachment Constellation hose except smaller. Constantly broke and came out. Still it was innovative for 55 plus years ago. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder Post by JD on 04/25/07 at 2:45pm Depends if the swivel part comes apart to say if it easy to clear of blockages! |
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Title: Re: The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/25/07 at 4:02pm JD wrote:
Hello JD: You think so? I don't. There is easy and quick access to the inside of the swivel neck and dirt path with ample room to work. A User can do it. No need for a repair technician. You can see up and down the dirt path and reach all the way into it from both sides. A small brush on a flexible wire/plastic handle is all that's needed. Or just a simple connection to the tool neck and blow it out with air. A few seconds of light duty work. Unlike a vacuum by-pass hose which requires dismantling of vacuum housing for access and work room to both sides. This is also a straight suction rug/floor tool. Light and easy to work on. Not a power head nozzle that's weighty and has electrical connections, gaskets and seals with clearances and restricted access. And no worry sticking a sharp object into the flexible hose to clear blockages and snagging and or puncturing. Which requires repair person's skills. IMHO. First rule: KISS: Keep it simple and simpler. Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder Post by JD on 04/25/07 at 4:24pm Hello Carmine Yes I do! The dirt path through the cleaning head is not straight so you can not see straight through it! Yes there is no flexible hose used on it but it is no means straight flow through! The bend where it swivels could cause blockages and could be awkward to unblock! JD |
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Title: Re: The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/25/07 at 5:21pm Well JD, we respectively disagree on this matter of blockages and the ease to clean and clear. Not surprising in the least. :) Carmine D. |
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Title: Re: The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder Post by guess_who on 04/25/07 at 10:04pm Hi guys, Point of mention, a flexible hose connection between the wand and power-head was also used by Kenmore, General Electric (for the very brief time its first power nozzle came out in the '60s), AirWay, Whirlpool and Lewyt. Venson |
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Title: Re: The New Hoover "Freemotion" Cylinder Post by Carmine_Difazio on 04/26/07 at 7:56am Hello Venson: Yes, the flexible hose has been a staple in the vacuum industry for many decades. I prefer the latest trend to "by-pass" the flexible hosing in favor of tubing. Why? In addition to the usual shortcomings with hoses (break, come loose, can't take the stress of the swiveling, crack), they are more prone to clog. Why? Flexible hosing is wired ribbed. It contracts and expands with the suction of the vacuum as it is picking up. To illustrate, put your hand over the attachment hose and watch what happens as you stop the suction. The same is true with the flex hose on the tools. And the wire ribbing, as it expands and contracts, is more prone to blockage, especially with sharp stiff items like hair pins, paper clips and tree needles. These are transparent to users until dirt and dust forms a ball and stops up the suction almost completely. Then it's time to take apart to clean and clear, using caution not to damage the flexible hose in the process. Boo! Hiss. Antiquated. Always a prime source of repairs. The above shortcomings are overcome by the design used more recently by primarily HOOVER USA and Europe: Tubing and channeling. Smooth hard dirt path surfaces are less likely to clog than ribbed hosing. And the high suction (2000 watts) of the HOOVER Freemotion would make the flex hose behave like an accordion. More prone to blockage if used. IMHO. Carmine D. |
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