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Message started by Dyson_Chris on 01/03/07 at 11:30pm

Title: Hoover Z Move OVER-Electrolux Intensity
Post by Dyson_Chris on 01/03/07 at 11:30pm

Now this looks like one nice vacuum.

http://smallappliances.electroluxusa.com/node35.asp?ProdID=37007


Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by JD on 01/04/07 at 3:36am

Nice looking and neat compact design!  One draw back no hose for above floor cleaning or stair cleaning!

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by Mike_W. on 01/04/07 at 4:57am

You really cannot compare this machine to the HOOVER Z, because the Z was a fullsized upright w/onboard tools and motor, dirt container, cord, attachments on the handle section.  The Intensity can be better compared to the old vacuum cleaners below and the much newer Miele Art(w/no brushroll)-


Mike_W. wrote:
On another note, look for a new vacuum cleaner from Electrolux.  It is similar in design to the Meile Art, Westinghouse Converto-vac, GE SV series.  Similar being that there is no bag compartment on the handle like traditional uprights.



The Intensity will be more suited for small apartments w/little space.  I can also see it being used as an extra vacuum cleaner like a "second floor" machine.  It is not meant to be an "all around vacuum".  

 

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/04/07 at 7:32am

Electrolux (owned by Eureka) has now copied at least two features of the HOOVER Z.  Eureka has a long and storied past of copying, especially HOOVER.  In the case of the "Z," first, the self-cleaning HEPA filter which Electrolux uses on its bagless canns in Europe.  And second, now, the fold down "Z" design.  

Despite the lack of on-board tools, the Electrolux Intensity is an interesting upright addition for US vacuum users (and worldwide if marketed across the globe).  It appeals to vacuum users who desire full size and smaller vacuums.  People who want more suction power and performance time than the stick vacuums but easier and more convenient usage than the full-sized vacuums with attachments on board (uprights and canns).  

Depending on the price, the Intensity should be a nimble competitor.  Also interesting, it markets itself against dyson:  "Leading vacuum by dollar sales, Roll over for more."  My guess is that the Intensity will be priced at an MSRP comparable to and/or slightly less than the dyson uprights so it can be sold in the big box retailers.  And carry a two year if not more warranty depending on the price.

Also interesting, it's bagged, not bagless.  Dyson is getting competition from NEW bagged and bagless makes and models.

Carmine D.

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by Dyson_Chris on 01/04/07 at 5:31pm

I found a few more pictures.

http://www.vacuumland.org/TD/JPEG/MODERN/1-1-2007-18-32-12--converto-skip.jpg

http://www.vacuumland.org/TD/JPEG/MODERN/1-1-2007-18-33-18--converto-skip.jpg

http://www.vacuumland.org/TD/JPEG/MODERN/1-1-2007-18-34-15--converto-skip.jpg

http://www.vacuumland.org/TD/JPEG/MODERN/1-1-2007-18-35-13--converto-skip.jpg

http://www.vacuumland.org/TD/JPEG/MODERN/1-2-2007-15-49-33--converto-skip.jpg

http://www.vacuumland.org/TD/JPEG/MODERN/1-2-2007-15-50-50--converto-skip.jpg

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by just-passing-throu on 01/04/07 at 5:40pm

I agree this would have to be a second vacuum, or a vac for a small household.  I also second that there is no provision for above floor cleaning hardly justifys a MSRP of $299

The link didn't open all the way for me so I missed some of the specs.  16lbs, and a 1qt dust capacity??? 1qt, with my dog I would have to change bags three or four times a day.  I understand the small bag to keep the machine smal, but. . .Are the bags at least cheap?


Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/04/07 at 8:49pm

The Electrolux Intensity's automatic cordwinder is a nice feature and touch.  The brush head resembles the Pronto but with a brush roll.

Carmine D.

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by VacOMatic on 01/05/07 at 1:08pm

Reminds me of the Miele Art, but with a more compact storage position, and a real brush roll.
The dust bag is very small, at 1 quart.
The 5 bowling ball lift trick was cute, but I suspect a lot of other vacs could lift them as well.

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/05/07 at 4:11pm

Chris et al:

Since the Electrolux Intensity claims in writing 50 percent more suction power than the leading upright vacuum by dollar sales (obviously a reference to dyson), does the box and/or the product literature say which dyson vacuums?  Is it the DC14/15 and/or the latest DC17?  

I suspect the carton gives the test details but I can't tell from the pics and photos.  Any more details to offer?

Carmine D.

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/17/07 at 1:39pm

The "View" on ABC today aired a commercial for the new Electrolux Intensity and LOWE's which currently carries it.  Very well done.

http://www.intensityvac.com

Carmine D.

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/18/07 at 1:50pm


Carmine_Difazio wrote:
The "View" on ABC today aired a commercial for the new Electrolux Intensity and LOWE's which currently carries it.  Very well done.

http://www.intensityvac.com

Carmine D.


And once again today on the View.  Electrolux and Lowe's are appealing to women with this vacuum cleaner and TV ad.  Something that Lowe's has done better than HOME DEPOT and other big box stores.  For example, Lowe's advertises the weight and cord length of all its vacuum cleaners.  This is an excellent marketing strategy and appeals to female customers.  All retailers should do the same in their vacuum advertisements.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=43484-73823-EL5020A&lpage=none 

The Lowe's site above gives the specifications and features of the Intensity.  Comes with a full bag indicator AND an automatic shut off when the bag is full.  It's nice to see these features in a bagged vacuum for $298.  

Within the next weeks and months, I expect to see the Intensity in all the big box retail stores including Bed Bath and Beyond and Linens-N-Things.  Plus BEST BUY stores which recently re-introed the Electrolux line after a short hiatus.

Carmine D.

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by Dyson_Chris on 01/18/07 at 9:19pm

I saw the commercial today... Me like this one.... :)

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by Carmine_Difazio on 01/29/07 at 7:42pm


Carmine_Difazio wrote:
 

Within the next weeks and months, I expect to see the Intensity in all the big box retail stores including Bed Bath and Beyond and Linens-N-Things.  Plus BEST BUY stores which recently re-introed the Electrolux line after a short hiatus.

Carmine D.


FYI: From BEST BUY website:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7879833&type=product&productCategoryId=cat05040&id=1149040489046

Carmine D.

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by earthworm on 02/01/07 at 8:46pm

1-quart dust capacity, so you don't have to change the bag as often::::::: This is copied from their ad.

Does the Electrolux ad writer think this is good ??? Or do ad writers know anything about their product ??
Nothing is said about the bag price..
I'll have to wait and see what CU has to say....

What is a Hoover Z ??.. We had to throw away the last Hoover we owned.....

Estate sales, auctions can be a cheap source of goods.. I paid $0.35 for an Electrolux shop -vac 5 years ago - this may last forever.....so quiet that few heard it run, including me..

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by doubletwins on 02/01/07 at 11:20pm

Isn't the size of the bag/container basically a way of telling the consumer how much dirt it's going to pick up? And is it considered"full" at about half capacity?


Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/22/07 at 4:43pm


Carmine_Difazio wrote:
[quote author=Carmine_Difazio link=1167885050/10#10 date=1169146229]  

Within the next weeks and months, I expect to see the Intensity in all the big box retail stores including Bed Bath and Beyond and Linens-N-Things.  Plus BEST BUY stores which recently re-introed the Electrolux line after a short hiatus.

Carmine D.


FYI: From BEST BUY website:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7879833&type=product&productCategoryId=cat05040&id=1149040489046

Carmine D.
[/quote]


Now at SEARS stores.

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?cat=Vacuum+Cleaners+%26+Floor+Care&pid=02036605000&vertical=APPL&subcat=Upright+Vacuums&BV_SessionID=@@@@1657396994.1172178399@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccfiaddkfeklfekcefecemldffidfmm.0

Carmine D.

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by guess_who on 02/22/07 at 7:10pm

Hi earthworm,

No call for amazement here.  It's very easy to sell a vacuum with a one-quart disposable bag -- and nary an attachment -- to a dumbed-down public.  As the consumer's sense of porportion has been left to tilt nearly as much off-kilter as the Tower of Pizza, lots of suction, little bag doesn't always register totally in the mind without some thinking when the intent is to tantalize buyers with sexy terminology having to do with "power".  Even the best of vacuums with a multitude of meritable features are sold mainly on the basis of power -- perceived or real.  "My Brand-Whatever vacuum can lift three times the bowling ball the other popular brad can . . ."

Ad writers are, after all, trying to make a living and to do so must say just about anything to make you think you're going to have a swell time once you lay your money down.  Despite the streetwalker mentality, I can't fault the writers of the mess we're expected to take hook, line and sinker since they are only doing what their client, the manufacturer wants.  I'd like to think the public is still too big for fairytales but looking at the level of sales of what I see as mediocre product, apparently it does.

I'm no great fan of Nancy Reagan, but in this instance by all means consumers should, "Just say no."

Venson

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by tiger21 on 02/23/07 at 12:16am

Carmine,
Earlier in this thread you remarked about the Intensity having automatic shutoff and how nice it was to see it on a $298 dollar vacuum. The Intensity does not have automatic shutoff tho Lowes has it down. They have lights that tell you to change your bag or filters.
 Aerus (formerly Electrolux USA ) has the automatic shutoff made in USA. I look at the Intesity and saw nothing like an auto shutoff.
             Tiger21

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/23/07 at 6:43am

Hello Tiger21:

In addition to the lights you mentioned which are on the rear base of the vacuum (for easy view while in use), there are 3 on-off finger tip controls.  I believe on the base of the handle and/or the fork of the vacuum (its been about a month and I can't recall with certainty.  The touch controls may even be closer to the handle grip).  The 3 touch controls are power on-off, carpets, and barefloors.  (This set up is similar to the Eureka Optima series which uses a rocker switch with the same 3 settings).  

The Intensity barefloors touch control shuts off the brush roll and uses straight suction.  The Intensity brush roll could be a tad better for my liking and the dust bag is a tad on the small size.  I would compare the size of the bag to the dust bag of the HOOVER Swingette/Porta Power from the late 60's and early 70's (which are still made and sold today for many commercial applications by home and business cleaning).  The Intensity is being sold as a lightweight both in size and use.  In fact, its not.  It's a middleweight.  Not a full sized vacuum for everyday heavy duty cleaning but certainly it could be if necessary at least for carpet cleaning.  Hence the lack of tools on board.  It also has the cord rewind, a nice feature, and the fold down handle for easy storage.  I was impressed with its carpet cleaning for a lightweight.  But with the lack of a rug height adjustment, the Intensity is going to challenging for users on high pile carpets.  Another reason for its claim as a fast and quick interim daily user.

Also, if I'm not mistaken the Electrolux Intensity is assembled in Mexico.

Carmine D.

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER
Post by Carmine_Difazio on 02/23/07 at 12:19pm

The Electrolux Intensity was just advertised on Regis & Kelly Show for Lowe's Stores.

Carmine D.

Title: New ELECTROLUZ INTENSITY
Post by vacuumcleanerguy on 02/26/07 at 5:05pm

Has anybod tryed the new electroluz intensity upright , i tryed it at sears today it seemed to do pretty good really cleaned the carpet nicely , but the dust bag was really small , i liked myself , any other thoughts

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER-Electrolux Intensity
Post by Mike_W. on 02/27/07 at 4:59am

I probably cannot say anything different from what I have already mentioned.

The bags are really small.  It takes me back to the day of the GE SVseries.  Those bags were really small.  The bags for the Intensity are meltblown, HEPA style bags.  This means that alot of dirt can be collected before it needs to be changed compared to regular paper bags.  The bags will be expensive though.

The machine will clean carpeting well, because it uses stiffer bristles and has alot of power for a little machine.  The telescopic handle is an added plus.

The Electrolux Intensity is an expensive "liteweight" upright.  I see it being used for small areas like a family room, but not a full house.  I can see someone, who has a studio apt. using the vacuum cleaner. When they are finished vacuuming, they could even fold it up and store it in a linen closet if they had to.

I believe that it would have been possible for AB Electrolux to design an above the floor system for this machine.  A system where a hose could be connected when cleaning w/the tools.

Title: Re: Hoover Z Move OVER-Electrolux Intensity
Post by guess_who on 06/27/07 at 1:24pm

Hoover Z move over?  Maybe but I've just added one to my collection.  My local Home Depot still has about four or so at that magical price of $99.00.  

Funny part was watching the driver of the cab I called -- a young man and a good many years my junior -- huff and puff his way to the trunk of his car with the box.  Not so funny was me huffing and puffing up the stairs with it after he'd left it at my doorstep.  Anyway . . .

Anybody got a good guess where I can find a lampshade to fit this thing? I don't think I'm going to be moving it around much.

Best,

Venson


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