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pereztr
Joined: May 24, 2011
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Miele vs Simplicity vs something else?
Original Message May 24, 2011 7:47 am |
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Everyone recommends a different vacuum--I thought I narrowed it down to a Miele canister (for my mix of hardwood and area rugs), but doing further research I found out about Simplicity and Sebo. So what to buy? The sales guy at my local shop suggested a Miele Polaris (S4 series). I'm not thrilled about spending $400, but I want to get something that is effective (my husband and daughter have dust allergies), easy to use (I'm not a great housekeeper) and will last--my husband doesn't want to buy another vacuum cleaner (haha). After reading their brochure, I called about the Miele Olympus (S2 series), which is $100 cheaper. I'm not convinced the Polaris is worth the extra $100--any thoughts? Can I add the carpet attachments to the Olympus if I need to down the road? Is it worth looking into the Sebo or Simplicity? I would have to drive an hour to a shop that sells either of those. And then there's the Panasonic--cheaper, but worth it? I appreciate any feedback I can get.
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"There is no BEST or PERFECT vacuum cleaner"
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Re: Miele vs Simplicity vs something else?
Reply #15 May 29, 2011 2:30 am |
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The OP has come to this forum with ideas already of what they want to buy and they were asking what the best solution is. They did not mention Miele's S2, Mike and I'm surprised as a moderator and to anyone else, that it took a heck of a long time for anyone in this forum to answer back to the OP. Seems when I made a suggestion, suddenly everyone else comes into the forum straight away - after the postings were made.
I'm only relaying MY OWN experience with Miele vacuums where sand is concerned. The U.K geographically has a less sand than the U.S in general. We're more a dry or wet nation used to water, snow, high winds, less sand though in more recent times with the amount of hurricans the world is having and earthquakes, the U.K is getting the same degree of dust "in the air."
The point about the Miele with its bag shows that there is very little to actually separate the motor between the bag with the use of "just" a filter. I guarantee you that if you take out a Miele bag if garden sand/soil has been brought into the home, it doesn't always meet the bag, but rather sits underneath the bag on the base - evident when you take the bag out and look at it!
Miele motors are delicate - and it has been discussed in other forums - even professional service people know how delicate Miele make their vacuum cleaner motors.
If you are well acquainted with Simplicity, then what are you waiting for? Dive straight in - as I said in my original post, I have no experience of Simplicity since they don't sell in the U.K
I did not realize we had to respond so quickly. I have mentioned here before, that I do not feel I have to come on here and post every few hours. I really do not think 24hrs. is a"heck of a long time". Do not worry about it.
The OP did mention the S2, so I made a comment. OP also mentioned Simplicity, so I made a comment. If the OP wants to post again, and inquire, then I am only happy to give input.
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travstyles
Joined: Jun 8, 2010
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Re: Miele vs Simplicity vs something else?
Reply #16 Jun 5, 2011 7:43 pm |
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To the original poster...my advice would be to buy the Miele S2 Delphi, for a few reasons: It is made in Germany and uses the 1200W Miele Vortex motor (the same as all other current Miele vacuums). It uses the larger G/N bags, which hold quite a bit more compared to the FJM of the S4. WHen you have pets, that makes a difference. Finally, it comes with an electrified hose with pistol grip, on/off switch for the power nozzle, a telescoping electrified wand, and the SEB 217 nozzle. This is a small and quiet nozzle, and while it does have soft bristles, combined with the Miele suction it wants for nothing in regards to pet hair pickup...it's very effective. It also has a squeegee-type strip behind the brushes that catches everything...it's a very effective hard-floor nozzle. The 217 is so light and quiet (and gentle) that I often connect it directly to the handle and use it for stairs or the couch. At $499.00 in the US, it's an incredible deal, unbeatable in my opinion. If you opt for spending $99 more, you can get the red Titan which adds a bare floor tool and a HEPA filter...the Delphi uses the clean air filter that comes with each box of bags, and is quite effective in my opinion. It's also upgradeable to the HEPA. I don't work for Miele, but I do have an S4 and an S2, and the S2 is a better machine in every way (bigger bag capacity, power nozzle). I hope that maybe helps you in some way.
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vacmanuk
Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
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Re: Miele vs Simplicity vs something else?
Reply #17 Jun 7, 2011 9:59 am |
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To the original poster...my advice would be to buy the Miele S2 Delphi, for a few reasons: It is made in Germany and uses the 1200W Miele Vortex motor (the same as all other current Miele vacuums). It uses the larger G/N bags, which hold quite a bit more compared to the FJM of the S4. WHen you have pets, that makes a difference. Finally, it comes with an electrified hose with pistol grip, on/off switch for the power nozzle, a telescoping electrified wand, and the SEB 217 nozzle. This is a small and quiet nozzle, and while it does have soft bristles, combined with the Miele suction it wants for nothing in regards to pet hair pickup...it's very effective. It also has a squeegee-type strip behind the brushes that catches everything...it's a very effective hard-floor nozzle. The 217 is so light and quiet (and gentle) that I often connect it directly to the handle and use it for stairs or the couch. At $499.00 in the US, it's an incredible deal, unbeatable in my opinion. If you opt for spending $99 more, you can get the red Titan which adds a bare floor tool and a HEPA filter...the Delphi uses the clean air filter that comes with each box of bags, and is quite effective in my opinion. It's also upgradeable to the HEPA. I don't work for Miele, but I do have an S4 and an S2, and the S2 is a better machine in every way (bigger bag capacity, power nozzle). I hope that maybe helps you in some way. The OP had actually considered the S2 and also considered SEBO, also made in Germany. With SEBO you get HEPA/S Class as standard and the models are far more efficient offering the floor tools with little price changes. My original feeling was to offer the OP choices of remaining lightweight for a canister since this is what they preferred and having hard floor for the majority of the time over a few spare area rugs doesn't warrant the extra expense of a powered brush in my experience. Having both the S2 and S4, I know what I prefer when it comes to quality. Here in the UK, so many different sellers are selling the base S5210 and S5211 models that it doesn't make much sense to consider the S2, one of the reasons to why Miele are still keeping the S4 in production a little longer even though the S6 is taking its place. The S2 just isn't very well made; you can see that when you open the bin door and watch the suction control bend inwards.
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Lucky1
Joined: Jan 2, 2008
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Re: Miele vs Simplicity vs something else?
Reply #20 Jun 17, 2011 2:54 pm |
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To the original poster...my advice would be to buy the Miele S2 Delphi, for a few reasons: It is made in Germany and uses the 1200W Miele Vortex motor (the same as all other current Miele vacuums). It uses the larger G/N bags, which hold quite a bit more compared to the FJM of the S4. WHen you have pets, that makes a difference. Finally, it comes with an electrified hose with pistol grip, on/off switch for the power nozzle, a telescoping electrified wand, and the SEB 217 nozzle. This is a small and quiet nozzle, and while it does have soft bristles, combined with the Miele suction it wants for nothing in regards to pet hair pickup...it's very effective. It also has a squeegee-type strip behind the brushes that catches everything...it's a very effective hard-floor nozzle. The 217 is so light and quiet (and gentle) that I often connect it directly to the handle and use it for stairs or the couch. At $499.00 in the US, it's an incredible deal, unbeatable in my opinion. If you opt for spending $99 more, you can get the red Titan which adds a bare floor tool and a HEPA filter...the Delphi uses the clean air filter that comes with each box of bags, and is quite effective in my opinion. It's also upgradeable to the HEPA. I don't work for Miele, but I do have an S4 and an S2, and the S2 is a better machine in every way (bigger bag capacity, power nozzle). I hope that maybe helps you in some way. There is no comparison between the S4 and S2 comparing build quality and Sealed system. The S4 is a VERY well built, solid machine with a totally sealed system. I hope the new replacement for the S4 will have the same quality as the present S4 and not the S2.
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vacmanuk
Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
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Re: Miele vs Simplicity vs something else?
Reply #21 Jun 20, 2011 8:53 pm |
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There is no comparison between the S4 and S2 comparing build quality and Sealed system. The S4 is a VERY well built, solid machine with a totally sealed system. I hope the new replacement for the S4 will have the same quality as the present S4 and not the S2. Well as the owner of the new S6 which is the replacement for the S4, have a look at this German video on You Tube. You don't need to understand the German language to see what the poster has done - they compared the S6 to the S5 and the S6 seems okay until he/she hits a screwdriver off the side. (The music is fab though : ) ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH-hpFpdLw8
This message was modified Jun 20, 2011 by vacmanuk
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