Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Just as sealed as a Miele: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzCkHQNh1sA Also, look at their other videos, they have more suction than a Miele, too!

You're joking aren't you.  I see cloudy air in the see-thru box that the Eureka-lux is placed in.  It's escaping into the air in the box.  Does anyone else notice it?

Carmine D. 

Note the orange back drop before and after the vacuum is placed in the box.  Particularly the backdrop not behind the see thru box.  It is becoming discolored by a pervasive cloud/screen of smoke as the vacuum is running and the exhaust is escaping from the box.

CarmineD wrote:

HA, you're inability to admit the truth shows more clearly here than ever. And no, nobody that has clear vision would say anything as disgracefully wrong as that. It's a sealed system buddy, and surely you're not blind enough to say that the ELECTROLUX's don't have more water pull than Miele's, because they obviously do. I was seriously ticking away wondering when you would reply.

I see clear as day.  And there's a plume of smoke coming out into the box and out of the box.  The video ends but not before the plume is out of the box.  If the vacuum/video ran a few more secs, even you could see it, despite your rose colored glasses.

BTW, thank you for payinmg so much time and attention to me.  I'm flattered.  I have a 25 inch Full HD 1080 p HP 2509m high definition mutilmedia interface monitor.  Specially designed and marketed for graphics. 

Hertz wrote:

If you include the older Sanitaire canisters, the've made sealed systems for years. What's your point? The Hungarian bodies are pretty good (not easy to work on) It's the Chinese wands, hoses, necks and Powerheads that are problematic. Not to mention the nomenclature deception.

Oh right, so because it doesn't have air escaping to the naked eye, it's suddenly sealed? Get a particle meter, Hertz and see what happens! Once again, you use someone elses video without testing your own theories to make a point. And are carpets automatically safer when there's greater suction?? What about destruction?

Hertz wrote:

I copied a pic from one of the posters cited in the link you posted above.  It's on another thread.  If you need help finding, let me know. 

A poster you referenced had just bought the Eureka-lux and took it through it's paces.  After doing so briefly he removed the bag took a picture of the dust leaking out of the new bag into the bag compartment.  He posted it for the readers to see.  In your haste you must have missed it.  Won't be the first time you posted a link with prima facie evidence contradicting your conclusions.  Keep up the good work.  I always look forward to your goodies here.

Carmine D.

Hertz,

   A sealed vacuum is like the Aerus Guardian. From the power nozzle  thru the hose and into and out of the bag compartment. If you hooked up to a chamber full of smoke and sucked all the air our there wouldn 't be any smoke after the HEPA filter. Put a vacuum cleaner up to this and you would see if it was a sealed unit. Kirby, Oreck, Hoover, Rainbow will let out the smoke. These are not sealed units but talk of HEPA bags. The way the bags are on the Aerus bags and their compartment make for the best sealed area and cleaner areas in the cleaner.

                                                                                                                            Procare

                             

Can someone enlighten me though, what is the point of showing air being sucked through a vacuum? Apart from the "polluted air" in a room that could be diffused and filtered easily, what point in terms of dust collection does this test provoke? In some ways buyers could misinterpret dust for the smoke, couldn't they? But dust is heavier in general isn't it?

procare wrote:

Actually, Electrolux puts rubber grommets on their wands starting from the PN through the machine, thus making it as sealed as the most sealed system out there.

CarmineD wrote:

Dude, you're so humorous. I actually read every post, and he clearly states that the bag most likely as a small tear somewhere, and that other users on the forum have the Oxygen 3, and not ONE particle leaks. Do your research buddy.

vacmanuk wrote:

Seriously? Smog/smoke is of an extremely small micron size, thus if there's no evidence if it escaping - like in the video I posted - it proves a sealed system. I have no idea how you correlate more suction to destruction, but given your obvious bias against this commendable company, I'm not surprised. Peace

Hertz wrote:

Really?  Post it here if that's what he says.  Picture speaks volumes more than your made up words.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk wrote:

vacmanuk: 

It's for show and effect.  Means nothing.  It's the clean exhaust air that matters.  If you put a brown sandwich paper/plastic bag in the vacuum, you'll have a 100 percent sealed system.  Air in, no air out.  Blow up a snadwich bag, air inside sealed closed, and burst it.  But, using a bag like this in a vacuum, and the motor will overheat and burn out in short order.  A worthy vacuum lets air and dirt in, contains all the dirt, and lets the fresh air out.  That is the MIELE forte: 100 percent sealed system.  Motor lasts fur immer.

Carmine D.

Hertz wrote:

Ever hear of a feature called suction regulators and controls on vacuums?  Why do you think vacuum makers include them on their machines?

Carmine D.

Hertz wrote:
No, you seem to not know yourself why you put these pointless posts in to try and gauge other's reactions when they've been used on other threads, nor do you seem to realise that even with the greatest suction vacuum on the market, more suction means more wear on carpets. You go on right ahead Hertz with your failed sense of thinking and your dodgy Dyson cast offs. Keep going over the same kinds of carpet daily and you'll soon start to see the fruits of your labour as the carpet wears down more and more.

CarmineD wrote:
Thank you for that Carmine. At least that's a logical solution and response to why those tests exist.

vacmanuk wrote:

You're welcome vacmanuk.  Same as showing a vacuum lifting a refrigerator and/or car.  Old tricks of the vacuum demo trade that come and go.  They resurface from time to time over the years by people who believe the hype.  Even worse, the people expect others to believe too and can't understand why/when they don't.  Even dyson recently used the old vacuum trick of picking up a car and aired the demo on European TV.  Doesn't mean a thing.  The operative question, like yours, is how many people use their vacuums to pick up cars? 

Carmine D.