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iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

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Hoover Platinum Collection
Original Message   Aug 13, 2010 11:52 pm
I'm just curious about the state of the Hoover Platinum Collection line-up that was introduced last year; how well is it doing? I've seen stores still carrying the Linx stick-vac, Max Extract carpet cleaner, and the lightweight bagged upright, however, I don't see the bagless upright around here, except for Costco (I picked one up yesterday for $197). I take it with the deep price cuts on the upright that it isn't selling that well, which is a shame, because I think its a damn good machine for the money. I haven't seen the cyclonic canister at all. What do you think of these machines? I personally like the lightweight bagged unit, as well as the cyclonic upright.
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Trilobite


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Re: Hoover Platinum Collection
Reply #6   Sep 9, 2010 9:57 pm
hooverman wrote:
Vax (USA) is NOT owned by TTI like Vax UK.  Vax UK is owned by TTI but its too confusing with Hoover USA & Hoover UK.

btw, how is Hoover UK's products?


Are you sure? Look at this link: http: //www.vaxusa.com/
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Hoover Platinum Collection
Reply #7   Sep 10, 2010 9:05 am
This is applicable too:

http://www.ttigroup.com/en/our_brands

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
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Re: Hoover Platinum Collection
Reply #8   Sep 10, 2010 6:57 pm
hooverman wrote:
Vax (USA) is NOT owned by TTI like Vax UK.  Vax UK is owned by TTI but its too confusing with Hoover USA & Hoover UK.

btw, how is Hoover UK's products?


Also look at http://www.vaxusa.com/products.aspx where you'll clearly see "TTI" mentioned at the bottom part of the page.

Hoover UK products are as usual in a bad way. For the most part from big box shops which have review sections, most of the Hoover products are being slated whilst Hoover UK are using Reevoo review centre company to promote their products. This is doing very little for the consumer in reality. At the weekend last I met a Hoover rep at another big box store who admitted that that Hoover UK are really powerless with whatever the head company, Candy in italy put out. Namely Hoover are failing because:

1) Customer reception of new products have moved their preference to other brands.
2) The "Airvolution," system hasn't been a complete success because of poorly built plastics.
3) Hoover are trying to get out of bagged vacuums once and for all.

It was quite an interesting conversation but one I wouldn't admit to enjoying. I have many old Hoover models and the reaction & info I got from the rep was disappointing to say the least.
CarmineD


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Re: Hoover Platinum Collection
Reply #9   Sep 11, 2010 7:19 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Also look at http://www.vaxusa.com/products.aspx where you'll clearly see "TTI" mentioned at the bottom part of the page.

Hoover UK products are as usual in a bad way. For the most part from big box shops which have review sections, most of the Hoover products are being slated whilst Hoover UK are using Reevoo review centre company to promote their products. This is doing very little for the consumer in reality. At the weekend last I met a Hoover rep at another big box store who admitted that that Hoover UK are really powerless with whatever the head company, Candy in italy put out. Namely Hoover are failing because:

1) Customer reception of new products have moved their preference to other brands.
2) The "Airvolution," system hasn't been a complete success because of poorly built plastics.
3) Hoover are trying to get out of bagged vacuums once and for all.

It was quite an interesting conversation but one I wouldn't admit to enjoying. I have many old Hoover models and the reaction & info I got from the rep was disappointing to say the least.



WRT the first point you made, I note/quote from the TTI web site with regard to VAX in the UK:

"Vax®  has also been the fastest-growing floor care brand in the UK for the past 5 years."

Perhaps at some future time, TTI will buy/own HOOVER-UK which currently is owned by Candy.  And, the poster meant to say: TTI does not own HOOVER-UK [yet].

Carmine D.

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vacmanuk


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Re: Hoover Platinum Collection
Reply #10   Sep 11, 2010 5:11 pm
CarmineD wrote:
WRT the first point you made, I note/quote from the TTI web site with regard to VAX in the UK:

"Vax®  has also been the fastest-growing floor care brand in the UK for the past 5 years."

Perhaps at some future time, TTI will buy/own HOOVER-UK which currently is owned by Candy.  And, the poster meant to say: TTI does not own HOOVER-UK [yet].

Carmine D.


Vax has been the fastest growing floor division in the UK for a number of reasons, Carmine - their budget upright and cylinders were all Dirt Devil from the U.S under different cosmetic changes and colours. BEFORE Dirt Devil and effectively TTi bringing in U.S Hoover windtunnel bagless products for higher end "Vax" models, Vax struggled to make ends meet financially with only one really successful vacuum on their books; their larger cylinder tub vacuum and that was moved to Australia for wider production in the 1990s which still continues today. Their other upright that did reasonably well is the Vax VX/Bosch upright vacuum, again another merger. Vax were never really that financially dependent to design a whole new model ground up in the 1990s before the Bosch merger. Their last upright vacuum under their own design was quite a novel one with a dust bag/hard box upright that could be changed over to a wet box model, following on from their 3 in 1 wash machine but it proved too fragile, too heavy and compromised by its change over design.

Vax would never have been where is it now without Dirt Devil in the U.S and effectively now with TTI as the parent company continues to grow albeit with passed down Dirt Devil and Hoover U.S products. Ive a feeling that Candy may well wish to hold onto Hoover; the company don't have another vacuum cleaner company in their umbrella portfolio of companies and Candy's stock market shares benefit from Hoover UK/Europe products.

Personally I think TTi have enough brands.
This message was modified Sep 11, 2010 by vacmanuk
CarmineD


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Re: Hoover Platinum Collection
Reply #11   Sep 12, 2010 7:25 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Vax has been the fastest growing floor division in the UK for a number of reasons, Carmine - their budget upright and cylinders were all Dirt Devil from the U.S under different cosmetic changes and colours. BEFORE Dirt Devil and effectively TTi bringing in U.S Hoover windtunnel bagless products for higher end "Vax" models, Vax struggled to make ends meet financially with only one really successful vacuum on their books; their larger cylinder tub vacuum and that was moved to Australia for wider production in the 1990s which still continues today. Their other upright that did reasonably well is the Vax VX/Bosch upright vacuum, again another merger. Vax were never really that financially dependent to design a whole new model ground up in the 1990s before the Bosch merger. Their last upright vacuum under their own design was quite a novel one with a dust bag/hard box upright that could be changed over to a wet box model, following on from their 3 in 1 wash machine but it proved too fragile, too heavy and compromised by its change over design.

Vax would never have been where is it now without Dirt Devil in the U.S and effectively now with TTI as the parent company continues to grow albeit with passed down Dirt Devil and Hoover U.S products. Ive a feeling that Candy may well wish to hold onto Hoover; the company don't have another vacuum cleaner company in their umbrella portfolio of companies and Candy's stock market shares benefit from Hoover UK/Europe products.

Personally I think TTi have enough brands.



Thanks vacmanuk.  Another plus for VAX popularity and sales is their heated rug washers.  Dirt Devil, aside from its much maligned reputation, is a popular vacuum seller in the USA.  Often times the most popular seller in new units. 

Carmine D.

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