Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Notice the absence of the Dutch Tech canisters? The presence of the Edge, which was supposed to have been an dealer exclusive? So much for integrity. Oreck dealers fared betetr when Dave was at the helm.

Trebor wrote:

Hi Trebor,

Quick question -- has Oreck ever seriously pushed them?  I know of the Dutch Tech cans only because, despite the add-on of power nozzles,  they are copies of the canisters Philips left off manufacturing in Europe a good while back. I actually used one.

However, I have yet to see or recall being told of a significant U.S. sales push ever being made per the Dutch Techs.  Years ago Oreck put out a canister vac that got high marks in CR but then as now, it seems the uprights get the most of their attention when it comes to advertising.  I've seen no commercials for Oreck cans that I recall other than possibly a brief mention at the tail end of an advert for another product

The new Edge is the first Oreck I've seen in a long time that's actually "new" but I have the feeling that I'll also be wondering why they didn't get out and push in its regard too.

Venson

Venson, according to the man who had the Oreck shop before the current owner the Dutch Techs were HUGE sellers on the East coast. This was before Miele had made such inroads in the North American market, at least seven years ago. They probably found it hard to compete against Miele

Venson,The canister was called CELOC,I believe it was a WHIRLPOOL canister looking thing . I believe even Sears sold it under the WHIRLPOOL label

It made sence that  it was whirlpool product , Since David Oreck married into it. His rirst upright was called the celoc 1000 or 4000.

Maybe Carmine can tell us the real skinny on the Oreck story

MOLE

       Mole ,

            I don't know the Oreck story but do rmember seeing Made in West Germany on an early one on the church cleaner across the street.

                                                                                                          Procare

In any event, here's some not so great but accurate line drawings of two Philips vacuums.  The lower model matches Oreck's Dutch Tech.

Venson

mole wrote:
This was the ORECK XL Celoc . What year do you think WP sold it at Sears as "Whirlpool"?  And Why?

procare wrote:
Yes, early ORECKS were made in Germany, for ORECK.  That would be after the WP/Oreck models.

Venson wrote:
I posted a review on the previous website way back in 1999-I think.  Here is the review transferred to this site-

http://www.abbysguide.com/vacuum/reviews/266-0-1.html

ORECK is known for his "8lbs. upright".  They get people's attention, because they are different.  Well, not so different anymore.  He knows that he can sell more of the uprights than the canisters, therefor advertising makes since.  The vacuum pays for itself.  This is true of other brands also.  Vacuum cleaners are very seldom seen of TV.  Look at how often Sears Kenmores were shown on TV commercials.  Eureka and HOOVER and Bissell will advertise, but it is in spurts.

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Mike_W wrote:

Hi Mike,

I was born here a hundred years ago.  Sears commercials are more gentle reminders for me though they may bear more impact on young'uns and new arrivals to the U.S.  Were I in the market for a vacuum, a dishwasher, range or refrigerator heading to Sears woulkd probably be a no-brainer as it has long been established for myself as a place to find anything practical.  My grandfather bought his overalls there and our first Silvertone TV.

Oreck on the other hand seems to pick up stuff for its line and leave it on a back burner.  The "Iron-whatever" portable vac  as an instance goes back almost 40 years as a Sears item before it fell off their roster.  I'm merely curious to learn if its a big concern for the company whether they sell or not.  Or, maybe they keep just enough on hand to satisfy those looking for somethng beyond the usuall fare now and then. 

Of course, everyone's aware of lightweight Oreck uprights and Oreck "power teams being the jewel in the company's crown but that makes me still wonder all the more at why they bother wih other items that they'll probably not push to the fore by way of more agressive advertising. 

Venson

Perhaps Oreck couldn't get them as they were originally Philips canisters.