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Venson
Joined: Jul 22, 2007
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Re: Oreck site
Reply #9 Aug 17, 2010 12:26 am |
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I posted a review on the previous website way back in 1999-I think. Here is the review transferred to this site- http://www.abbysguide.com/vacuum/reviews/266-0-1.html ORECK is known for his "8lbs. upright". They get people's attention, because they are different. Well, not so different anymore. He knows that he can sell more of the uprights than the canisters, therefor advertising makes since. The vacuum pays for itself. This is true of other brands also. Vacuum cleaners are very seldom seen of TV. Look at how often Sears Kenmores were shown on TV commercials. Eureka and HOOVER and Bissell will advertise, but it is in spurts.
Hi Mike,
I was born here a hundred years ago. Sears commercials are more gentle reminders for me though they may bear more impact on young'uns and new arrivals to the U.S. Were I in the market for a vacuum, a dishwasher, range or refrigerator heading to Sears woulkd probably be a no-brainer as it has long been established for myself as a place to find anything practical. My grandfather bought his overalls there and our first Silvertone TV. Oreck on the other hand seems to pick up stuff for its line and leave it on a back burner. The "Iron-whatever" portable vac as an instance goes back almost 40 years as a Sears item before it fell off their roster. I'm merely curious to learn if its a big concern for the company whether they sell or not. Or, maybe they keep just enough on hand to satisfy those looking for somethng beyond the usuall fare now and then. Of course, everyone's aware of lightweight Oreck uprights and Oreck "power teams being the jewel in the company's crown but that makes me still wonder all the more at why they bother wih other items that they'll probably not push to the fore by way of more agressive advertising. Venson
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 30, 2007
Points: 5894
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Re: Oreck site
Reply #11 Aug 17, 2010 10:16 am |
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This is the best pic/photo I could find of the ORECK Dutch Tech canister to post here. This is the ORECK Dutch Tech 1400B which typically sells for $800. 1400 Watt motor. 10 year motor warranty. 3 year overall warranty. 17 pounds for the vacuum only. With the tools included it's 25 pounds. It's noted claim: Ultra quiet "....it's so quiet it won't wake a sleeping baby." There are 3 less expensive Dutch Tech models. Two models are 1200: an A and B [1200 Watts]. One model with a power head and one without. Priced at $500 and $700 repectively. A 1400 A model also without power head is priced at $700. Consumer Reports gave it fair to middlin ratings. Customers/users give it the same ratings as CR. It was marketed as "European engineering: the equivalent of a Swiss watch." Obviously geared toward the 50 million families in the USA with infant children/babies. In CR's most recent ratings [March 2010] the ORECK DutchTech 1400B rated an overall numerical score of 65 in a field of 18 canisters which ranged from the lowest score of 57 to the highest of 73. Tying with MIELE Plus S251 and closely matching SEBO C series and MIELE Callisto. Besting both dyson canns. There is no reliability rating for ORECK canns. ORECK uprights receive a 9 score for reliability in a field of 12 brands ranging in scores from the lowest [best] of 3 to the highest [worse] of 13. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 21, 2007
Points: 1293
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Re: Oreck site
Reply #16 Dec 26, 2010 2:24 am |
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It's just a matter of time alright. What vacuum do you use now and recommend to others? A HOOVER lightweight bagged copied exactly after the ORECK. I luv it! Carmine D.
Hoover in name only. Copied but not duplicated. The Hoover actually cleans.
Remember when you recommended Hoover and claimed that they would be the demise of Dyson. Dyson hasn't been sold. Hoover was. You abandoned the Hoover ship after it sank and climbed in the Oreck life boat. Now that raft is taking on water. Unless you can walk on water you better be looking for another raft.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 30, 2007
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Re: Oreck site
Reply #17 Dec 26, 2010 3:02 am |
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Hoover in name only. Copied but not duplicated. The Hoover actually cleans. Remember when you recommended Hoover and claimed that they would be the demise of Dyson. Dyson hasn't been sold. Hoover was. You abandoned the Hoover ship after it sank and climbed in the Oreck life boat. Now that raft is taking on water. Unless you can walk on water you better be looking for another raft. HOOVER is the gold standard of rug cleaning. Always was and still is. The vacuum name in rug cleaning for almost 100 years. Your own purchase of the HOOVER lightweighth affirms this. ORECK is the standard bearer for lightweights. Always was and still is. The vacuum name in lightweights for almost 50 years. Again you affirm this by trying ORECKs not just once but twice before settling with the HOOVER. I like both brands and their models.
Dyson makes a decent bagless FINALLY after scrubbing the gawdawful clutch and floating head nonsense [discontinued]. Not surprisng to me to see dyson prices FINALLY coming down to realistic amounts to compete in the big box store venues, its primary sales market in the USA. Dyson made these recent price/product changes exactly for the reasons you said above: To stay afloat and keep from sinking further in the industry. Just as I said years ago they would have to do when you and others kow towed my words. Better late than never. Especially for a niche market player like dyson. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 21, 2007
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Re: Oreck site
Reply #18 Dec 26, 2010 4:38 am |
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HOOVER is the gold standard of rug cleaning. Always was and still is. The vacuum name in rug cleaning for almost 100 years. Your own purchase of the HOOVER lightweighth affirms this. ORECK is the standard bearer for lightweights. Always was and still is. The vacuum name in lightweights for almost 50 years. Again you affirm this by trying ORECKs not just once but twice before settling with the HOOVER. I like both brands and their models. Dyson makes a decent bagless FINALLY after scrubbing the gawdawful clutch and floating head nonsense [discontinued]. Not surprisng to me to see dyson prices FINALLY coming down to realistic amounts to compete in the big box store venues, its primary sales market in the USA. Dyson made these recent price/product changes exactly for the reasons you said above: To stay afloat and keep from sinking further in the industry. Just as I said years ago they would have to do when you and others kow towed my words. Better late than never. Especially for a niche market player like dyson. Carmine D. I always liked Hoover untill about 10 or so years back. Still always thought Electrolux and Rainbow were better cleaners. Gold standard is a useless title. My carpets look 90% as good as when new and have seen less Hoover than any brand. No wear, no tear and deep clean. Being a standard for a lightweight is also a title with no value with reference to cleaning ability. Electric autos are a standard for saving gas, however they are of little value for travel. Two Orecks and nothing positive to say. Speaks well of Oreck doesn't it?
I seriously doubt that competition impacted Dyson price cuts as much as other factors. Poor economy #1. Recouped costs on R&D. Remember how you made fun of Dyson's # of engineers and bragged about Hoover's few. Dyson was developing new products. Hoover only developed new series names for their existing junk. Who needs an engineer to develop a name change? I do not recall saying that Dyson would never reduce pricing. It is only a given after time in the market. Remember a couple years ago when plasma TV's were so expensive. Currently they are the least expensive on the market. I do remember that the with the intro of each new Hoover series you claimed that it would be the demise of Dyson and I said no. You and Hoover failed. As I recall Hoover was desperately cutting prices in a good economy while Dyson was actually increasing. Dyson thrived and Hoover failed. Oreck has resorted to buying other brands is an attempt to get a vac with cleaning power. Dyson still produces their own. Get a raft Carmine.
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