Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

A really cool insight to the workings behind the company and how they develop what I believe to be some the most well designed vacuums with overall good-great build quality in history.

vacmanuk wrote:

Hi Vacmanuk:  ORECK, accused by dyson fans [and its workers], of being a surface cleaners uses the same demo as these in its Clean Home Centers to make the point to customers that ORECKS pick up much more embedded dirt than dysons ever could.   Plus takes less back and forth passes.  Plus... ORECK's get lint that fuses to rug surfaces better than dysons, because of dyson whimpy brush rolls.  Seeing is believing.  ORECK sells many uprights to current dyson owners with these match up demoes.

Carmine D. 

CarmineD wrote:
Seeing may well be believing but Im very impressed with the Riccar. Pity we don't have them in the UK.

vacmanuk wrote:

I always have been too.  Made in St. James Missourri.  It's a winner.  Our [USA's answer] to MIELE. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
And sometimes they buy a Dyson when the Dyson picks up more baking soda. 

HARDSELL wrote:

Maybe dyson will in tool mode but never in upright mode.  Give dyson twice as many more passes over the same carpet area than an ORECK and ORECK still gets more embedded baking soda.   In fact its exactly what ORECK in-store demo'ers allow the customers to do using baking soda. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Since when?

HARDSELL wrote:

Where you been all your life?  Sniffing baking soda?

Carmine D.

vacmanuk wrote:

It was interesting to see both youtube videos, Riccar look impressive! Did anyone read the comments as well on there they were interesting to read too! One thing to look out for and will be interesting over the coming years is European Union want to bring in the Energy Label system to Vacuum Cleaners to show there ratings on similar areas to the Energy label System on other white goods (washing machines, fridges, dishwashers etc....). They also want to bring in max wattage (amps in the USA?) to vacuum cleaners for Uprights and Canisters, as it's been mentioned that the wattage of motors since the 1960 typical 500 watts has increased to over 2000 watts today. So it will be interesting to see where vacuum cleaner technology and design will go if and when this comes in. I personally think motor wattage has gone way too high on vacuum cleaners as it does always mean higher motor wattage better pickup which is what the consumer mainly thinks! It's down to airflow and agitation is it not which equal air watts!? Out of interest where what is the amps of both motors in the Riccar Tandem airflow machines? DC18

DC18 wrote:
No it doesn't. The aspects of higher power is used as a selling point to buyers - buyers aren't always interested in how much power a vacuum cleaner has - Dyson after all has bucked the trend for high wattage fitting 1200 watt and 1300 watt motors. Suction/power isn't just down to the air flow and agitation, but sealed suction so that no suction escapes. In the 1970s, cylinder vacuums didn't have a lot of power but as soon as they were given higher powered motors to improve suction power, this was also used as a selling point. However INHO cylinders/canisters and uprights are two very different vacuums.

Riccar Brilliance (as featured in the video) has 2.12 amps. The Radiance model also have this rating. Now, if you need to convert this to watts, you'll need the voltage. Then convert it at: http://www.jobsite-generators.com/power_calculators.html

DC18 wrote:

Hello DC18:

Dual motors combine for a full 12 amps of power.  That's probably the most amps for full size USA vacuums, including those rated for commercial grade.  Which if translated to wattage would be the equivalent of  1200-1300 max.

Carmine D.