Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

How sealed are Dysons? And how good is their filtration? I know the uprights - at least the older, older ones like the DC07 and such might have potential problems with sealing, such as show in this video right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ However there could simply be something wrong w/ that one, who knows. BUT ANYWAYS, are the NEWER uprights COMPLETELY sealed? What about their canisters, such as the DC22, 23? Like does any air blow out of the cord reel or such, or ONLY out of the exhaust where it's SUPPOSED to come out from?

mole wrote:

Hi mole

Bingo!!! upkeep/service or lack of....will kill any vacuum but more so on a bagless....99%   of most bagless dont come in for service until its cyclones/filters are caked up

clogged up....and that neglect is gonna cost you more due to the xtra time and work involved in restoring it to its like new performance......  i like the filtering of the dysons...but lifetime they are not.

but proper filter maint is a must on dysons/bagless......the dysons /bagless that came in for annual maint  with proper filter maint were the ones that performed as good as the day they were bought.

turtle

CarmineD wrote:

Hello Lucky1

Why is service on bagless vacuums more than bagged? 

Carmine D.

Lucky1 wrote:

Thank you Lucky1.

Carmine D.

retardturtle1 wrote:

Hello turtle:

Why are the dysons brought in for service [if they are perforiming as good as new]?  Preventative maintenance?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Hello turtle:

Why are the dysons brought in for service [if they are perforiming as good as new]?  Preventative maintenance?

Carmine D.

Hi Carmine

Yes....we did have some dyson/bagless  owners who were all about prevent maint. on everything they own...new filters every year-belts..ect

reguardless of  how clean they were....nor were any of them pet owners....that i do remember for sure . They were all very happy with their vacs

and how they performed...(no pets..odor ) could be the reason? This was when the 7 and 14 were still pretty popular..and when we used to work on them.

Idont really remember seeing any dust leaks anywhere either...but did see the light coating of dirt/dust when you removed the pre-mtr filter on some not all.

turtle

retardturtle1 wrote:

Thanks turtle.  Filters and servicing are more costly in bagless vacuums.  Needed more often too than in bagged vacuums.  Preventative maintenance is highly recommended to keep the bagless working properly vice bagged vacuums which can take more abuse and neglect than the more labor intensive sensative bagless.  Have to daily dump dirt bins because of small capacities and temperament of motor to dirt/lack of air flow.  So I ask, what are the advantages of bagless over bagged.

Carmine D.

You've hit the nail on the head here Carmine! The advantages that Dyson would have all consumers believe is that you don't need to buy bags and that's the first "convenience" that most buyers could agree with (well, until the drive belt goes on their Dyson if they haven't got the motor clutch protected models!) as well as the other hyped fact that bags clog and don't therefore fill up, weaken the suction and dust gets left behind.

vacmanuk wrote:

Thank you.  Years ago, vacuum bags were sold primarily through independent vacuum stores that may have been few and far between.  A throw back to the old permanent cloths.  Over the years, grocery, drug, big box retailers and a host of others added/sell vacuum cleaner paper bags.  Not to mention quick and easy direct buys from the vacuum brand makers and/or bag makers through the internet.  Buy 8-12 bags per pack[s] at one time/visit and the vacuum consumer is good for a year or more.  Painless.  Bagless has been around for years in the vacuum industry and the argument in favor of bagless is always the same:  No cost and inconvenience for buying bags.  Really?  By now, it's a "shell" game.  Vacuum consumers catch on quick.  Doesn't take 5174 prototypes to figure it out.  The hype for bagless is much greater than the "shell" game workers lead buyers to believe.  Especially when the users realize that the pre-post motor filters for bagless are far more costly than paper bags, require regular user maintenance frequently and dumping that darn old dirty bin is an extreme pain.  Give vacuum customers bagged every time.  No fuss, no muss.  No hassles.

Carmine D.

In the UK the story isn't the same: you get a fair amount of "Mass produced," company names such as Hoover or Electrolux bags but there are so many other companies like Goblin/Morphy Richards where bags aren't available. In Dyson's defence here, there is a slight grain of truth in not being able to get bags for all vacuums sold in the UK at places.

CarmineD wrote:

Thanks turtle.  Filters and servicing are more costly in bagless vacuums.  Needed more often too than in bagged vacuums.  Preventative maintenance is highly recommended to keep the bagless working properly vice bagged vacuums which can take more abuse and neglect than the more labor intensive sensative bagless.  Have to daily dump dirt bins because of small capacities and temperament of motor to dirt/lack of air flow.  So I ask, what are the advantages of bagless over bagged.

Carmine D.

HI Carmine

No advantages at all....none. a bagged vacuum is/will always be better by far... its simple and sweet ,   Ive yet to see a bagless [except sanitaire-comm. dust cup]

that can handle the stress  of comm. use.....dead within a year. A good bag will keep and contain the dirt..allowing the filters and motor  to stay clean and free flowing.

Dysons/bagless  are best suited for in home use/very light duty.....and will last /work fine with proper maint and service....every year....or better yet , use a bagged Tempo 

 for $100.00 and outclean/outlast  bagless/dysons and enjoy all the money you save/saved...just my view.

turtle