Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

How sealed are Dysons? And how good is their filtration? I know the uprights - at least the older, older ones like the DC07 and such might have potential problems with sealing, such as show in this video right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ However there could simply be something wrong w/ that one, who knows. BUT ANYWAYS, are the NEWER uprights COMPLETELY sealed? What about their canisters, such as the DC22, 23? Like does any air blow out of the cord reel or such, or ONLY out of the exhaust where it's SUPPOSED to come out from?

vacmanuk wrote:

Thanks vacmanuk.  That's about how it goes.  "I buy it, bring it, home and then I have to push it too?"

Best,

Venson

HARDSELL wrote:

ORECK has made and marketed the same variation on the theme for over 45 years.  The DC07 is discontinued in less than 4 years.  Soon the DC14.  Why?

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Like the dyson DC11 for $500?  You're right that I predicted it would die an ignoble death and be pulled from the USA retailers' shelves.  It was.  Just like DC07 now and soon the DC14. 

Actually I bought, used and gifted away 2 HOOVER Z's.  Both are still in use.  One in a commercial venue has been performing well since November 2007.  It's had one service in the all the time.  Simple and easy to work on.  Many of its features are now in regular use on other vacuums in the industry. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

HS:

What are your comments on this? 

Carmine D.

Venson wrote:

Looks like Bett got the ORECK knack, just like my dear Wife.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk wrote:

Particle counters vary much in range from $1,600-$5,000 You don't need a controlled area to get a good idea if a system leaks or not as the meter will give a reading and if that reading rises you know there is exhaust. I have personally used one on a HEPA installed Miele and can report that the meter reads ZERO same with IQ Air's Air Purifiers. I have not used it on a Dyson but I have never seen or heard of one that WAS tested that does not leak. Miele does not claim a zero reading with the Air Clean Filter.

CarmineD wrote:
Sorry Carmine but you can't compare Oreck with Dyson. Totally different vacuums. For a start the Dysons are all clean fan systems.

Lucky1 wrote:
Thanks for that info, Lucky! Im sure I read somewhere that the particle counters have to be done in a controlled environment. Anyone know roughly what a particle count is for the Air Clean filter?

CarmineD wrote:
That was so long ago, but I think I remember.  Before the dyson came to the U.S. and shortly after it introed, T.G. spoke of how wonderful the dyson was.  He said that the multicyclones, on the dyson, were so great that NOTHING passes the cyclones.  I knew this was bull.  I checked dysons by removing the dirtbin/cyclone assembly and looked at the inside of the tube(exhaust end) that runs to the premotor filter.  Fine dust coated the inside tube.  This was the case on all dysons.  What I proved was that debris does get by the cyclones and the bin does not need to be overfilled to do so.  I do not recall saying anything about dust on the outside of the machine.

Dyson vacuum cleaners do well at filtering  while vacuuming.  The problem is when the dirtbin is emptied.  The dirt does fly, even though some led others to believe differently.  JD's company even knew the dust would fly, because he said to put a bag around the bin when emptying it.

vacmanuk wrote:

My point was that ORECK despite HS's attacks and disfavor over its operation has passed the test of time for more than 45 years with little to no major changes to its design and function.  A testament in my opinion to its classic appeal across several generations of users.

Carmine D.