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Electrolux Twin Clean Bagless Canister
Original Message Mar 31, 2010 5:55 pm |
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This is a curious product for sale at a leading wholesale club. The reviews seem to be very good. The interesting thing is that it is bagless with a dual self cleaning filter system. apparently, a dummy light comes on when it's time to switch from one filter to the other. Anyone have any experience with this vacuum? Is the self cleaning filter design good? Electrolux® Twin Clean™ Bagless Canister with Pet Kit
Electrolux® Twin Clean™ Bagless Canister with Pet KitDual HEPA Filtration Crevice & Dusting Brush & Bonus Pet Kit IncludedItem # 502878 |
Rated | | 4.6 out of 5 |
(out of 14 reviews) | 13 of 14 (93%) customers would recommend this product to a friend. |
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Venson
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Re: Electrolux Twin Clean Bagless Canister
Reply #8 Apr 5, 2010 10:33 am |
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Hi vacmanuk, It reminded me of a lawn mower too. The idea was to concentrate suction by eliminating lengthy airways and lessening teh reduction of suction by way of leaks and friction from fan to floor. I suppose that was achieved. (Oreck uprights employ the same idea. Fan chamber right down there on the floor and a short airpath to get you some bang for your buck.) However, the Infinity suffered from a most ungainly shape and -- worse yet -- no attachments. Back in the '70s Eureka came out with a model or two that had motor, brush roll and disposable bag all under the lid of the cleaning head that were a heck of a lot prettier. Nonetheless, they did not last long on the market. By the way, whatever happened with the Miele "Art" series? I think they'd have been truly great if there'd be a way to work in a revolving brush. Venson
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vacmanuk
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Re: Electrolux Twin Clean Bagless Canister
Reply #10 Apr 6, 2010 1:09 pm |
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Hi vacmanuk, It reminded me of a lawn mower too. The idea was to concentrate suction by eliminating lengthy airways and lessening teh reduction of suction by way of leaks and friction from fan to floor. I suppose that was achieved. (Oreck uprights employ the same idea. Fan chamber right down there on the floor and a short airpath to get you some bang for your buck.) However, the Infinity suffered from a most ungainly shape and -- worse yet -- no attachments. Back in the '70s Eureka came out with a model or two that had motor, brush roll and disposable bag all under the lid of the cleaning head that were a heck of a lot prettier. Nonetheless, they did not last long on the market. By the way, whatever happened with the Miele "Art" series? I think they'd have been truly great if there'd be a way to work in a revolving brush. Venson Carmine, Venson etc For a start the Intensity uses a high filtration synthetic dust bag so it's no surprise it has down well in tests. However like the Miele D'Art series (where it is still sold in some countries) the fact that you have to bend down all the way to the floor (or I suppose you could lift it up, but can all walks of life do it?) to change the bag. The Miele D'Art wasn't particularly successful despite their arty colour finishes and has become a rarity find on EBAY UK. Most owners complain of a lack of pick up and no wonder - no beater bars and a suction only floor head with a small 2.5 litre dust bag has sealed its fate despite it being very versatile with its swap around tube/to suction. It also clogs easily because of the dust channel to the bag which sits at an angle. Also the tool caddy on some of the models are known to break off. My own tool caddy clip holder on my old S4 is about to crack one final time.
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vacmanuk
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Re: Electrolux Twin Clean Bagless Canister
Reply #12 Apr 7, 2010 12:59 pm |
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How often does one change the bag? To mind bending down to do so? Vice wrapping the cord on a DC24? Or dumping a smallish tiny dirt cup after every use or two? All relative pain/effort. Choose your poison. Most would say, like me, that having a lightweight high air filtered bagged rug cleaner that consistently proves it can outclean the supposed TOL bagless [EVEN WITH A FULL BAG VICE THE EMPTY BIN] is worth the occasional costs and replacing of bags every so infrequently. Carmine D. Well Carmine the fact the Miele D'Art has a small dust capacity means owners were usually changing them in less than a month. Regardless of the "bottom fitted," dust bag, for the price paid for a premium machine the D'Art wasn't successful. It clogged too often, had a great foot pedal activated cord rewind however and the ability to have its handle turned into a suction tube. NOT the most ideal vacuum for elderly people who may find grasping and bending over difficult. The whole idea of the Miele D'Art was offering customers something different in an upright design. Not a standard vacuum cleaner by any means not only judged by its various body finishes, colours or spec. That the design clogged on the very basis of its function however must be questioned. You really don't like the idea of bagless do you? Bagless mini vacuums aren't that bad - its what the owner's expectations have of them that often go against their "natural," function. If you were to offer me a free Dyson upright and a free Oreck or even a free D'Art, I'd take the Dyson!
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CarmineD
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Re: Electrolux Twin Clean Bagless Canister
Reply #13 Apr 8, 2010 6:52 am |
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Well Carmine the fact the Miele D'Art has a small dust capacity means owners were usually changing them in less than a month. Regardless of the "bottom fitted," dust bag, for the price paid for a premium machine the D'Art wasn't successful. It clogged too often, had a great foot pedal activated cord rewind however and the ability to have its handle turned into a suction tube. NOT the most ideal vacuum for elderly people who may find grasping and bending over difficult. The whole idea of the Miele D'Art was offering customers something different in an upright design. Not a standard vacuum cleaner by any means not only judged by its various body finishes, colours or spec. That the design clogged on the very basis of its function however must be questioned. You really don't like the idea of bagless do you? Bagless mini vacuums aren't that bad - its what the owner's expectations have of them that often go against their "natural," function.
If you were to offer me a free Dyson upright and a free Oreck or even a free D'Art, I'd take the Dyson!
I was referring to the Electrolux Intensity in my post not the Miele Art series. I was never impressed with the Miele Art. My feeling is that Miele was capitalizing on a market of baby boomers in the early 2000's who had more money than sense. These were the target market buyers of these lightweight uprights for small living quarters [recall the artzy fartzy designs and colors]. When the tech sector went bust in the USA, and the baby boomers found themselves with 1/10 of the wealth they had once amassed, the Art series died. Along with the teckies who never recovered their money status either. Soon to follow was the home market. Once an American dream, the truth of the bust of 2008 in the USA is that home ownership is no longer an American dream and status symbol of working Americans. Most Americans from now out will be renters not buyers. Not a bad thing. THis was the norm in the US prior to WW11.
Carmine D. PS: Sadly, some veteran posters and readers here may recall I predicted this would come to pass, [economy tsunami], on the weekend of MLK holiday in 2008 when Ben boy Bernanke pulled several all nighters to keep the US markets from tumbling after a weekend of market collapses overseas. Our Forum censors locked the thread. Said it had nothing to do with vacuums. Don't take my word. The unabridged version of the thread is still here. Have a look if you time. Interesting reading for those inclined IMHO.
This message was modified Apr 8, 2010 by CarmineD
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vacmanuk
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Re: Electrolux Twin Clean Bagless Canister
Reply #14 Apr 9, 2010 2:57 pm |
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I was referring to the Electrolux Intensity in my post not the Miele Art series. I was never impressed with the Miele Art. My feeling is that Miele was capitalizing on a market of baby boomers in the early 2000's who had more money than sense. These were the target market buyers of these lightweight uprights for small living quarters [recall the artzy fartzy designs and colors]. When the tech sector went bust in the USA, and the baby boomers found themselves with 1/10 of the wealth they had once amassed, the Art series died. Along with the teckies who never recovered their money status either. Soon to follow was the home market. Once an American dream, the truth of the bust of 2008 in the USA is that home ownership is no longer an American dream and status symbol of working Americans. Most Americans from now out will be renters not buyers. Not a bad thing. THis was the norm in the US prior to WW11. Carmine D.
Apologies there! Actually its in the U.S that the Miele D'Art is still available amongst few countries where it is still popular. I don't find it a bad idea particularly when it copied a rare and small company called Princess, who in the 1980's sold catalogue only electric mains powered sweepers. The difference is that Miele made the mistake of producing suction only floor heads and poor motor power coupled with a clogging design. My grandmother had two of the electric sweepers and they were brilliant and yet simple in their design; a motor driven brush roll depositing light dust into a cloth bag that could be emptied, washed completely or damp cloth washable and then just replaced back into the machine. To activate it, you had to stand on a plastic pedal that pushed down on a coil within the base of the handle. My grandmother used her walking stick to get it going but she could successfully lift it up on a table (only weighed around 2kg) to open the hood when getting to the bag. I wish I could find a picture on the internet to show you this sweeper, I believe in the UK it would certainly still make an impact on sales following the poor reliability of battery cordless types.
This message was modified Apr 9, 2010 by vacmanuk
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