Electrolux Silverado Motor Replacement. Original Message Mar 20, 2010 5:26 pm
Hi, I recenetly baught a used- and in good condition besides the motor - Electrolux Silverado. First I would just like to say DAMN these things are well made! I picked up the new-style wire reinforced hose with it as well as a SideKick I for TEN DOLLARS! The SideKick was $10, and the machine with the hose, wand setup, and decent-good condition powernozzle was $25. DAMN GOOD PRICE! There is a catch, however: The motor gives off a burning smell. I was aware of this before I baught it, but I think I can fix it, I just need to know HOW TO GET to the motor itself! Anybody know how?
Re: Electrolux Silverado Motor Replacement. Reply #6 Mar 26, 2010 12:09 am
Hertz,
You scare me when you say you oiled the motor. Did you take off the end cap and oil the felt underneath? When you cleaned the fans did you take them out to wash them? The armature and the carbon brushes were both bad. That is why the motor was weak. The sleeve bearing is referred to as an oil lite bearing having oil in it and a small amount in the felt to let it absorb more in it when needed as the motor heats up. I hope you don't have any problem with the motor. If you ever do put a new armature and brushes in and have access to a rheostat hookup you need to break motor in at half speed for 30 minutes to seat the carbon brushes correctly. I have a hookup from Electrolux where I hook up two cleaners on the same cord and it cuts the speed to 50%. Good luck.
Re: Electrolux Silverado Motor Replacement. Reply #7 Mar 26, 2010 11:28 pm
No, I did nothing more than spray a good bit of silicon-based lubricant around each end of the armature of the "NEW" motor that works - w/o the bad carbon brushes or armature. I think you're getting it wrong; I'm not using the "weak" motor, I bought a used - but near-perfectly - if not perfectly - - working Lux Silverado so I transplanted the motors (as well as some other bits and bobs). I oiled - or more specifically: Lubricated - small areas of the motor. I may just have the busted motor sent in to this great guy at: www.vacuumman.com who specializes in rebuilding and refurbishing all-things Electrolux. What would be "scaring" you though? Why would "oiling" or lubricating it be a problem?!
Re: Electrolux Silverado Motor Replacement. Reply #8 Mar 27, 2010 1:17 am
Electrolux motors are not to be oiled in the way you described. One end has a sealed ball bearing that if there is a problem with it being dry and bad replace it. The other end where the carbon brushes are you take off the end cap and put oil in the felt and not spray in between the armature. Damage to the carbon brushes and the armature can occur.I have seen several machines that caught fire from people doing what you said you did. Carbon Brushes also have softened up causing the brushes to go bad. Any number of things can go bad. In all the time Electrolux has been out customers were told not to oil the motor. The cleaners had Ball Bearings in the majority of their cleaners. (37k-39k and 38kdd bearings) . I was a serviceman for Electrolux and know what I am talking about. Oiling of vacuum cleaners was for Hoovers and Eureka and other uprights that used sleeve type bearings . They even showed customers where to oil them in their manuals. As cleaners got more powerful ball bearings became the norm with very few having sleeve bearings. Power heads have the sleeve bearings.
Re: Electrolux Silverado Motor Replacement. Reply #9 Mar 27, 2010 4:17 am
Procare
Have you figured out a way to fix the bottom end problems on the modular motors, the fan end, I just cant seem to clearence them correctly Cant buy the lower housings with the bracket and bearing anymore ,You know the 6500 style
I press the top bearing on with the arbor press [no problem but after drilling out the lower bearing retainer and installing the new bearing and reriveting the retainer the clearences just seem to go away and cause it to rumble on the shut down.
Re: Electrolux Silverado Motor Replacement. Reply #10 Mar 27, 2010 1:18 pm
procare wrote:
Electrolux motors are not to be oiled in the way you described. One end has a sealed ball bearing that if there is a problem with it being dry and bad replace it. The other end where the carbon brushes are you take off the end cap and put oil in the felt and not spray in between the armature. Damage to the carbon brushes and the armature can occur.I have seen several machines that caught fire from people doing what you said you did. Carbon Brushes also have softened up causing the brushes to go bad. Any number of things can go bad. In all the time Electrolux has been out customers were told not to oil the motor. The cleaners had Ball Bearings in the majority of their cleaners. (37k-39k and 38kdd bearings) . I was a serviceman for Electrolux and know what I am talking about. Oiling of vacuum cleaners was for Hoovers and Eureka and other uprights that used sleeve type bearings . They even showed customers where to oil them in their manuals. As cleaners got more powerful ball bearings became the norm with very few having sleeve bearings. Power heads have the sleeve bearings.
Procare
Well it shouldn't be a problem considering it was only a SMALL bit of LUBRICANT and I blew vast streams of air in there to try it out with my Heritage II Kirby, so there wasn't much lubricant in there left at all. It runs fine, no burning smell or smoking, so I'm nearly sure it wasn't affected (the motor) much at all :] Thanks for your concern though! :] Now I ask: Is it possible to buy post-motor filters for the Silverado or any metal machines? I know not officially, but aftermarket maybe? The thing that's impressive is that with these American-Made DVC aftermarket bas with "Genuine MicroFiltration" - there's virtually NO "vacuum smell" and the air blowing out is VERY clean smelling! I'm just curious if there are even any after market filters available?
