Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hello Venson:

Still in business and uses a GH guarantee to replace any products with its approval seal if customers have a problem and bring to GH's attention.  Not sure the time period.  1-2 years I think.  The guarantee is explained in each monthly edition. 

Carmine D.

The question/answer is can a entity which charges for its seal, assuming it still does and you are correct, still provide a valuable service to consumers.  They have to survive to stay in business.  Charging is a way.  Is it for the approval?  Is it for the testing to deem worthy?  Both?   Probably the latter.  If the product meets minimal standards it's deemed worthy.  If it is so bad, I suspect rather than diminish the value of the seal, especially for other paying product brands who will pull their membership, the entity would refund the money and say sorry.

Carmine D.

excellent point.......it all goes in the bag where it belongs ..keeping filters clean ....to filter.  if its the hospital standard...then its  great for in home use.

Good quality bags and filters makes for an unbeatable clean....cant get any better than that.

turtle

Hi Carmine

Id like to see some long term tests....say a couple of years [2 and 5] down the road. Give the vac to a fam. of 4....in your avg home, [with annual service/maint ] then do the

same rigorous testing that was done when it was new.....i would think this would answer alot of questions/solve problems on overall

performance and build quality...how sealed is the hepa system now...or the vacuum itself....i without a doubt believe a bagged vacuum will outperform/ filter and 

 prove itself to be more durable than any bagless [of equal value] across the board...... several years down the road in uncontrolled real life  enviorments...those that

have proven themselves would recieve ...say the'  ULTRA platinum seal of appvl from  the CRI-BAF-CR-ect.

turtle

Repair/replace whats  broke/broken...new belts, bag ,filters, clean out roller bearings ..check out  motor, take body apart and wash inside and out

...polish up the outside. keep it looking and running as good as the day you bought from us.....3yrs top to bottom coverage 5 yrs motor....min.

 on any and all vacs bought from us......if you buy elswhere and bring to us its 29.99  for our outstanding full service perfomed by yours truely.

anything worth keeping is worth the maint......no matter what you have or who made it.

turtle

Hello turtle:

The closest thing that comes to your recommendation is the CR reliability data for vacuums.  It comes with alot of caveats in the interpretations of results.  The American Society for Testing and Materials [ASTM] was used for a long time in the vacuum industry as the standard for testing vacuum product performance especially with suction and pick up.  Ultimately, it comes down to vacuum customers and vacuum stores.  Word of mouth among the front line vacuum businesses and their clientele which spreads throughout the industry and markets. 

Carmine D.

Pretty much strait forward and to the point, The cleaner that does the best job of keeping dirty air and debris out oif the fans,bearings,etc. will last the longest.

A clean running electric motor is a happy electric motor. So are we in agreement that a bagged, filtered , is the best for vacuum motor applications?

Fan first machines clean very well but require more maintainence, by pass top load uprights are the way to go.And even a true 2 motor upright is a dirt eating machine that will last for an average of 20 years in household aplications.

Any body remember the E-LUX D2...........

mole