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Venson
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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #140 Apr 19, 2010 11:49 am |
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Everyone's home is diffierent. The stuff I vacuum up here in New York, by way of lifestyle and nature of place, may not at all be the stuff someone else has to go after in a surban home in Airizona. I'm pretty sure it can be taken as a given that a large part of what we get during cleaning is human and animal detrius but the type of stuff we track in like sand or powdery dirt can be purely particular to place. As well what happens when the baby gets hold of the talcum powder? What does it mean if get the vacuum out only every couple of weeks as opposed to every other day? I don't think that testing, no matter how comprehensive, can always suit everybody's individual situation. There are other challenges as well. During my time at the last place I managed an office, I definitely recall that either the newly installed low pile carpet or the padding that came with it bore some unknown sort of white powdery dust that did not seem to go away even after months of regular and frequent vacuuming. This dust was always visible on vacuum brushrolls and other ares in the dirt path. And because it was powdery in type, it always challenged the filtration and performance capability of both the very good bagged and bagless machines I used because powder can quickly choke up the action of either. I never did get rid of it and figured the only way to do that was to have a professional service in to thoroughly clean the rug. I had a good argument in that who knew how much of that strange stuff we were breathing in but my employer would have never gone for paying for cleaning it because the rug was a brand new installation. The worth of some tests and their results, sames as beauty, rests in the eye of the beholder. Tell folks that a vacuum releases zero microns of what it takes in and you may leave them behind scratching their heads. (Ask the next person you pass on the street, "How big is a micron?") Show them that a machine can lift several bowling $#%* and they start salivating as they go for their wallets. Venson |
CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #146 Apr 20, 2010 7:17 am |
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Sounds a lot like acquiring Good Housekeeping magazine's seal of approval here. Don't know if the mag is still in existence but it appeared pretty free with its commendations. Venson
Hello Venson:
Still in business and uses a GH guarantee to replace any products with its approval seal if customers have a problem and bring to GH's attention. Not sure the time period. 1-2 years I think. The guarantee is explained in each monthly edition. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #147 Apr 20, 2010 7:20 am |
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No I'm not a fan of British Allergy Foundation because many years ago I wrote to them on numerous occassions asking them how they could endorse Dyson vacuums based on the fact that once they get emptied dust flies out. Their reply was that the companies like Dyson pay the BAF for their name. It's a simple as that. I'm dubious when it comes to companies like BAF after replies like that!
The question/answer is can a entity which charges for its seal, assuming it still does and you are correct, still provide a valuable service to consumers. They have to survive to stay in business. Charging is a way. Is it for the approval? Is it for the testing to deem worthy? Both? Probably the latter. If the product meets minimal standards it's deemed worthy. If it is so bad, I suspect rather than diminish the value of the seal, especially for other paying product brands who will pull their membership, the entity would refund the money and say sorry.
Carmine D.
This message was modified Apr 20, 2010 by CarmineD
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retardturtle1
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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #148 Apr 20, 2010 1:32 pm |
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MM just look for yourself when dust statically clings to the outer side of the acrylic bin once it has been emptied!
To be fair guys we can go on and on about Dyson filtration until the cows come home and who said what and who is incorrect. End of the day Dysons and any other bagless cyclonic just isn't healthy. I've raised this issue before and I'll say it again - bags are healthier even if they do clog up and if the medical profession such as surgeries and hospitals still use vacuums with bags then there's something in that use (surely it costs more?) alone to why bagged vacuums are better, and even if buyers have to buy bags, they still have to buy drive belts for other Dyson models or anything else that happens to go wrong with it.
excellent point.......it all goes in the bag where it belongs ..keeping filters clean ....to filter. if its the hospital standard...then its great for in home use. Good quality bags and filters makes for an unbeatable clean....cant get any better than that. turtle
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #149 Apr 20, 2010 2:38 pm |
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The question/answer is can a entity which charges for its seal, assuming it still does and you are correct, still provide a valuable service to consumers. They have to survive to stay in business. Charging is a way. Is it for the approval? Is it for the testing to deem worthy? Both? Probably the latter. If the product meets minimal standards it's deemed worthy. If it is so bad, I suspect rather than diminish the value of the seal, especially for other paying product brands who will pull their membership, the entity would refund the money and say sorry. Carmine D.
Hi Carmine
Id like to see some long term tests....say a couple of years [2 and 5] down the road. Give the vac to a fam. of 4....in your avg home, [with annual service/maint ] then do the same rigorous testing that was done when it was new.....i would think this would answer alot of questions/solve problems on overall performance and build quality...how sealed is the hepa system now...or the vacuum itself....i without a doubt believe a bagged vacuum will outperform/ filter and prove itself to be more durable than any bagless [of equal value] across the board...... several years down the road in uncontrolled real life enviorments...those that have proven themselves would recieve ...say the' ULTRA platinum seal of appvl from the CRI-BAF-CR-ect. turtle
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