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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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CR likes new Miele upright
Original Message Nov 5, 2009 5:48 pm |
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http://blogs.consumerreports.org/home/2009/10/eureka-envirovac-3041-eureka-pet-pal-4716-panasonic-mcug775-electrolux-ultra-silencer-miele-s-7580.html ...
The top scorer of our latest tests was the Miele S 7580 upright, $800. This Miele was among the best at cleaning carpets, and its pet-hair pickup and low emissions were excellent as well. Its swivel-neck design allows for tighter turning, a plus since the 22-pound Miele is among the heavier uprights in our ratings. And its electronic suction control, with a choice between manual and automatic, adapts the motor speed for the surface you're cleaning. ...
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Venson
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Re: CR likes new Miele upright
Reply #31 Jan 24, 2010 6:16 pm |
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CR occasionally does some nutty things. If I remember correctly, they seemed to be out in left field on their blender reviews several years back. They rated the Vitamixer as not being so great because they tested blenders by whipping eggs, and the powerful Vitamix blender made scrambled eggs. The top blender was something like a Braun that ended up having problems. This year, I think the Vitamixer was at the top when they did a proper test making smoothies.
Based on the political emails I get from CR, they also tend to have some socialist tendencies which may explain why price seems to have some influence on their ratings (this is a perception - not sure if it's reality). Personally, I think the ratings should be independent of price. Consumers can decide for themselves how much is too much to spend.
Hi Severus,
As I've often said, I think CR's reasoning is to get potential vacuum buyers over the hype about certain brands and to also show them that "good" may not always be found in machinery bearing big price tags. Unfortunately, there is still a prevailing feeling that the more something costs the better it must be. Many people really do need help in deciding what's worth buying to help them find either product that's the best they can afford or that may be worth spending a little extra on in the long run. Heck, they're selling clothing and shoes that merely cost a buck or two to make for all kinds of money more on name than quality. I remember a teenage kid who once spared me not an iota pride because his quite forgettable off-the-rack jacket, made by some popular designer of the time, cost more than everything I had on. He never once told me anything in regard to style, quality or anything else that might have better commended his purchase. The big issue was that the jacket cost a lot. Naturally, I let the little dummy live but I can't help but fear, if dumb is in the genes, that he's passed the same stupid perceptions on to his own kids by now. Ownership of big tag items does offer a thing or two to impress the neighbors with. I remember well telling a friend about the new Filter Queen I bought in the very late '70s and I also remember well that when she happened to stop by for a visit, when she saw it, the first thing she said was, "Oh, so that's the $500 vacuum you bought." CR, whos logic can be spotty, should also be trying to help consumers choose by also pointing out good appliance characteristics that usually point to sounder purchases Venson
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Venson
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Re: CR likes new Miele upright
Reply #32 Jan 24, 2010 6:16 pm |
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CR occasionally does some nutty things. If I remember correctly, they seemed to be out in left field on their blender reviews several years back. They rated the Vitamixer as not being so great because they tested blenders by whipping eggs, and the powerful Vitamix blender made scrambled eggs. The top blender was something like a Braun that ended up having problems. This year, I think the Vitamixer was at the top when they did a proper test making smoothies.
Based on the political emails I get from CR, they also tend to have some socialist tendencies which may explain why price seems to have some influence on their ratings (this is a perception - not sure if it's reality). Personally, I think the ratings should be independent of price. Consumers can decide for themselves how much is too much to spend.
Hi Severus,
As I've often said, I think CR's reasoning is to get potential vacuum buyers over the hype about certain brands and to also show them that "good" may not always be found in machinery bearing big price tags. Unfortunately, there is still a prevailing feeling that the more something costs the better it must be. Many people really do need help in deciding what's worth buying to help them find either product that's the best they can afford or that may be worth spending a little extra on in the long run. Heck, they're selling clothing and shoes that merely cost a buck or two to make for all kinds of money more on name than quality. I remember a teenage kid who once spared me not an iota pride because his quite forgettable off-the-rack jacket, made by some popular designer of the time, cost more than everything I had on. He never once told me anything in regard to style, quality or anything else that might have better commended his purchase. The big issue was that the jacket cost a lot. Naturally, I let the little dummy live but I can't help but fear, if dumb is in the genes, that he's passed the same stupid perceptions on to his own kids by now. Ownership of big tag items does offer a thing or two to impress the neighbors with. I remember well telling a friend about the new Filter Queen I bought in the very late '70s and I also remember well that when she happened to stop by for a visit, when she saw it, the first thing she said was, "Oh, so that's the $500 vacuum you bought." CR, whos logic can be spotty, should also be trying to help consumers choose by also pointing out good appliance characteristics that usually point to sounder purchases Venson
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: CR likes new Miele upright
Reply #34 Jan 25, 2010 10:27 am |
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On a somewhat related note, BEST BUY is bundling appliance purchases with new vacuums. Not free but with cost savings for the group of appliances purchased. Interesting sales technique. Seen BB in the past giveaway vacuums with appliance purchases in excess of an amount. Selling a package/bundling of appliances with vacuums for multiple sales/purchases with cost savings is new. Carmine D.
Carmine,
I saw that as well. The Hoover bagless pet vacuum looked like an interesting vacuum. It had a low profile for getting under furniture. I don't know whether it uses a Dyson like multicyclonics to maintain suction. Unless you absolutely need to replace all 3 appliances at once (washer, dryer, vacuum), it doesn't seem like much of a deal to me. It seems like a gimmick to get you into a high dollar washer/dryer. It seems like if you're going to pay $3000 for a washer/dryer/vacuum, you ought to be getting Miele products.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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CarmineD
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Re: CR likes new Miele upright
Reply #35 Jan 25, 2010 2:21 pm |
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Carmine, I saw that as well. The Hoover bagless pet vacuum looked like an interesting vacuum. It had a low profile for getting under furniture. I don't know whether it uses a Dyson like multicyclonics to maintain suction. Unless you absolutely need to replace all 3 appliances at once (washer, dryer, vacuum), it doesn't seem like much of a deal to me. It seems like a gimmick to get you into a high dollar washer/dryer. It seems like if you're going to pay $3000 for a washer/dryer/vacuum, you ought to be getting Miele products.
SEVERUS:
Agree. It's not as beneficial to the buyer as much as the seller. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: CR likes new Miele upright
Reply #36 Jan 25, 2010 3:12 pm |
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Carmine, I saw that as well. The Hoover bagless pet vacuum looked like an interesting vacuum. It had a low profile for getting under furniture. I don't know whether it uses a Dyson like multicyclonics to maintain suction. Unless you absolutely need to replace all 3 appliances at once (washer, dryer, vacuum), it doesn't seem like much of a deal to me. It seems like a gimmick to get you into a high dollar washer/dryer. It seems like if you're going to pay $3000 for a washer/dryer/vacuum, you ought to be getting Miele products. Considering the high cost of the Miele their dealers should give appliances with a vacuum.
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: CR likes new Miele upright
Reply #37 Jan 25, 2010 5:26 pm |
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Considering the high cost of the Miele their dealers should give appliances with a vacuum. Hardsell - If Best Buy sold Miele products, I suspect they would need a $4000+ special package deal - something like: Miele washing machine (W1850) - $1850 Miele dryer (T9800) - $1250 Miele S7 Salsa S7280 upright Mango red - $649 Total - $3749 + tax/shipping
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Venson
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Re: CR likes new Miele upright
Reply #38 Jan 25, 2010 11:57 pm |
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Considering the high cost of the Miele their dealers should give appliances with a vacuum.
Hi Hardsell,
They give you nothing but best wishes. Venson
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