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bagless kirby conversion
Original Message   Jan 16, 2009 1:51 pm
I'm not very impressed with the design, but there's a guy who offers a way to convert Kirbys from bag to dirt canister.  Unfortunately, it doesn't offer dual cyclone or better technology.  It looks like you clean the pleated filter after every use.  I think I'd rather pay for bags than this gimmick.

http://www.kirbybagsneveragain.com/

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
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DysonInventsBig


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Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #102   Jan 20, 2010 2:44 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Thank you.

I believe going with a floating head was a genius business-move.


Dyson Invents Big
CarmineD wrote:
Dib-ster:

Hence the reason Tom G always said dyson needs a vacuum historian who can help him and dyson get it right.  While Tom and I don't always see eye to eye on vacuum matters, we do on this one.  Didn't work for HOOVER in 1963 and the company quickly added a manual rug height adjustment then self power.  Didn't work for dyson in 2002 and FINALLY after 7 years added a fingertip control that other makers already had.  Innovation?  Genius?  Quick, get that dictionary again.  Somebody changed the definition and didn't tell me.

Carmine D.


Multi-cyclonic’s, with a full-proof nozzle arrangement guaranteed a full bin and a full bank account for Sir James Dyson.  I consider this genius.


Dyson Invents Big


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #103   Jan 20, 2010 4:26 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I own only the Platinum and not two Hoover uprights.  Your NPD is still there isn't it?  CR had nothing to do with my purchase.  Owning is not luving.  It has faults like all vacs do.  It will suffice until I get the urge to push another around the home.  Did I mention that I returned Orecks because of subpar performance?  Only the inventor or a filthy home owner would be proud of an Oreck.

Remember the Platinum is not the Hoover that Dyson whooped.

Perhaps a brick or cement block placed on the Oreck would exert enough down force for it to actually be effective on carpets.  Now that makes sense.  I am not doing the opposite of what I say.  I still say that the DC07 is superior to Oreck and Hoover.  Unless you have inferior carpets or could care less about clean carpets.  No twists here. 


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HS:

Tell me, if DC07 is so good why did dyson discontinue?  Why did it never rise to the level of being THE signature dyson model? 

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #104   Jan 20, 2010 4:27 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Multi-cyclonic’s, with a full-proof nozzle arrangement guaranteed a full bin and a full bank account for Sir James Dyson.  I consider this genius.


Dyson Invents Big



Dib-ster:

Really?  Good for him.  After 5174 tries, he deserves some monetary benefits.  I'm happy for him.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #105   Jan 20, 2010 4:30 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

You've got a "Kick Me" sign on your back, only you're slow to know it.


Dyson Invents Big


Dib-ster:

Your reading abilities/eye sight are lacking.  It says kiss me.  Front and back.  Great way to make female friends!  Should try it if you ever get to Las Vegas

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


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Points: 1293

Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #106   Jan 20, 2010 5:18 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

Tell me, if DC07 is so good why did dyson discontinue?  Why did it never rise to the level of being THE signature dyson model? 

Carmine D.



I blame most of the failure on James Dyson's ego.  Combine that with following the Hoover path of offering toooooo many new models rather than improving a good thing.

However, the DC07 put a whooping on the signature "Z" Hoover that you proclaimed would cause the demise of Dyson.  Boy those Z's sure make good boat anchors though. 

CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #107   Jan 20, 2010 7:01 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I blame most of the failure on James Dyson's ego.  Combine that with following the Hoover path of offering toooooo many new models rather than improving a good thing.

However, the DC07 put a whooping on the signature "Z" Hoover that you proclaimed would cause the demise of Dyson.  Boy those Z's sure make good boat anchors though. 


HS:

I guess if you use a $2000 Rainbow to pick up water in your boat and paint your vehicle, it's logical for you to use a $400 HOOVER Z as an anchor.  

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


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Points: 1293

Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #108   Jan 20, 2010 10:08 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

I guess if you use a $2000 Rainbow to pick up water in your boat and paint your vehicle, it's logical for you to use a $400 HOOVER Z as an anchor.  

Carmine D.


I did not pay close to $2000 for the Rainbow.  Using a Z for anything other than a vacuum is logical.  BTW, are you LOGICALLY using gasoline with nitrogen in it?
DysonInventsBig


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Points: 1454

Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #109   Jan 21, 2010 5:27 am
HARDSELL wrote:
I blame most of the failure on James Dyson's ego.  Combine that with following the Hoover path of offering toooooo many new models rather than improving a good thing.

However, the DC07 put a whooping on the signature "Z" Hoover that you proclaimed would cause the demise of Dyson.  Boy those Z's sure make good boat anchors though. 


Hardsell,

There's no failure and there is no ego and there is no following Hoover.  Instead, since 2002 Sir James gave the industry suits an education and handed their asses to them.  Smaller men would indeed develop a big ego, but not Sir James.


Dyson Invents Big
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CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #110   Jan 21, 2010 6:46 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Hardsell,

There's no failure and there is no ego and there is no following Hoover.  Instead, since 2002 Sir James gave the industry suits an education and handed their asses to them.  Smaller men would indeed develop a big ego, but not Sir James.


Dyson Invents Big


Dib-ster:

Here here.  Sir James for Prime Minister.  If he can do all this for the vacuum industry, he's worth a shot at prime minister.  Perhaps the ego would even help. 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #111   Jan 21, 2010 12:27 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Dib-ster:

Here here.  Sir James for Prime Minister.  If he can do all this for the vacuum industry, he's worth a shot at prime minister.  Perhaps the ego would even help. 

Carmine D.


Oh Carmine, you’re still reeling from my “Kick Me” comment.  I thought it was hilarious and fitting.

Sir James is not going to be Prime Minister, but instead hes been asked to be the UK’s innovation Point-Man. 


Dyson Invents Big


P.S.  Is it true...  Nevada residents get a free ride (do not pay state tax) by all the money made by the countless strip clubs and legalized whoring that's in and near the beautiful Las Vegas - baby!
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