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DysonInventsBig
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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #90 Jan 19, 2010 11:39 pm |
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DIB I gotta say ,excellent point on the floating head....as i personally prefer the floating head over the manual setting. Never really seen where one cleans better than the other ... turtle1 Thank you. I believe going with a floating head was a genius business-move. Dyson Invents Big
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #91 Jan 20, 2010 12:13 am |
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Dustmite,
Just for fun, how does Dyson advise you to pick the height setting? Do they provide working definitions for short, deep, and medium pile carpeting?
As for the ideal system of adjustment, I would think that Sebo/Windsor is close to the ideal with it's automatic height adjustment. Jughead, From the Dyson DC28 manual... For the best cleaning performance Dyson recommends the following cleaner settings:Setting Carpet/floor type Deep pile - Plush, multi-styles and shag Medium pile - Level-loops and lighter plush Short pile - Commercial grade carpets and Wilton styles Bare floor - Delicate rugs/carpets, floorboards, tiling, laminates, vinyl, etc.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #92 Jan 20, 2010 6:44 am |
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True.
Dib-ster:
I didn't realize it was a true or false test. I thought the answer was multiple choice and "all of the above." Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #93 Jan 20, 2010 6:53 am |
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Jughead,
From the Dyson DC28 manual... For the best cleaning performance Dyson recommends the following cleaner settings: Setting Carpet/floor type Deep pile - Plush, multi-styles and shag Medium pile - Level-loops and lighter plush Short pile - Commercial grade carpets and Wilton styles Bare floor - Delicate rugs/carpets, floorboards, tiling, laminates, vinyl, etc.
Dib-ster:
You know what? When the sales person at BEST BUY demo'ed the DC28 to me this past June, she left it on the medium setting after she powered on. I dumped the dirt and debris from a display DC14 bin on the low pile rug and asked her to vacuum it up. She left the rug height setting on medium. She passed over the area one time back and forth and didn't get it all up. I stopped her in the process. I hit the low setting and I made one pass and picked up everything that was left. She saw the result. She said to me I don't like the low setting because it's too hard to push and pull. So I leave it on the medium setting. Gee, that sounds familiar. Let's see. First, people don't read User manuals. Second, they don't set proper rug height adjustments. Third, why bother with them? Give them a floating head and tell them one size fits all. Bingo. I mean EUREKA! The answer. Now, true or false? Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #94 Jan 20, 2010 6:58 am |
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HI CARMINE Ive yet to see any bagless upright stand up to commercial use.....they come in D.O.A..... ..never returning to work. Bagged is the way to go...ive also noticed that those who once ordered sanitaires w/ shake out bags...hate them and order the bag set up.....the majority of our vac sales are to previous bagless owners...who went bagged then bagless then back to bagged.....within a year or two. Full bag out......new bag in and your done. But i will say that bagless cans do seem to hold up very well....only come in for annual/bi-annual full service.....pretty solid machines from what ive seen.
Hello Turtle1:
Hence, the reason I used "perhaps." As in.... perhaps a floating head is good on most carpets but most definitely not all. Especially if you have a clutch that makes gawdawful ratcheting noises whenever the brush bar is stalled. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #95 Jan 20, 2010 7:04 am |
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Thank you.
I believe going with a floating head was a genius business-move.
Dyson Invents Big
Dib-ster:
Hence the reason Tom G always said dyson needs a vacuum historian who can help him and dyson get it right. While Tom and I don't always see eye to eye on vacuum matters, we do on this one. Didn't work for HOOVER in 1963 and the company quickly added a manual rug height adjustment then self power. Didn't work for dyson in 2002 and FINALLY after 7 years added a fingertip control that other makers already had. Innovation? Genius? Quick, get that dictionary again. Somebody changed the definition and didn't tell me. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #96 Jan 20, 2010 7:22 am |
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Dib-ster: You know what? When the sales person at BEST BUY demo'ed the DC28 to me this past June, she left it on the medium setting after she powered on. I dumped the dirt and debris from a display DC14 bin on the low pile rug and asked her to vacuum it up. She left the rug height setting on medium. She passed over the area one time back and forth and didn't get it all up. I stopped her in the process. I hit the low setting and I made one pass and picked up everything that was left. She saw the result. She said to me I don't like the low setting because it's too hard to push and pull. So I leave it on the medium setting. Gee, that sounds familiar. Let's see. First, people don't read User manuals. Second, they don't set proper rug height adjustments. Third, why bother with them? Give them a floating head and tell them one size fits all. Bingo. I mean EUREKA! The answer. Now, true or false? Carmine D. Too bad Oreck doesn't have a low setting. They certainly will not pick up in one pass on carpet.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #97 Jan 20, 2010 7:58 am |
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Too bad Oreck doesn't have a low setting. They certainly will not pick up in one pass on carpet.
HS:
The HOOVER basher and dyson luver but seller who now owns TWO HOOVER uprights and luvs his bagged HOOVER lightweight Platinum upright which Consumer Reports rates as top in its class tho scorning Consumer Reports in the process........perhaps as an 8/9 pound simple and easy upright to use for all surfaces, ORECK doesn't need rug and floor height settings like most full size 20 plus pound uprights with tools on board. That should make complete sense to anyone like you who says one thing and does the complete opposite. Oh I know, you had a twist of heart, I mean a change of heart. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #98 Jan 20, 2010 12:39 pm |
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Dib-ster: I didn't realize it was a true or false test. I thought the answer was multiple choice and "all of the above." Carmine D. No, the fun is watching you and then attacking what you say and represent. Dyson Invents Big
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CarmineD
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Re: bagless kirby conversion
Reply #99 Jan 20, 2010 1:03 pm |
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No, the fun is watching you and then attacking what you say and represent.
Dyson Invents Big
Dib-ster:
Watching you try and fail miserably is fun for me too and makes me laugh! Carmine D.
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