Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

SEVERUS:

I'm amazed to see the huge volume of bag companies/makers producing and selling vacuum bags now.  Seems more brands of bags are offered now since the introduction of bagless vacuums in the USA than ever before in the industry.  Retailers' store shelves are filled with them.  Not a sign that bagged vacuums are in the minority and on the decline.  Just the opposite. 

My friend Tom G. also prophesied when dyson was launched in the USA that paper bags and vacuums would go the same route of the horse and buggy?  It's been 9 years now, and that didn't happen.  In fact based on the above, just the opposite is true. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL:

You flatter yourself with your own spinned stories.  It was the dyson advocates and fans here who said dyson would kill off all the vacuum competition in time like HOOVER and ORECK to mention two brands that get into your craw.  That didn't happen.

BTW, did you ever answer SEVERUS's question?

Carmine D.

No need, Dib-ster.  SEVERUS is right.  80 percent is not verifiable/accurate.  Never was, never will be not in my lifetime or yours.  It is merely a seat of the pants figure to sound and look good at the time.  Obviously,  Tom G works for a vacuum brand that ONLY produces/sells bagged vacuums, namely TACONY.  If he really believes bagless will be the survivor and bagged will go the way of the horse and buggy, he would not be working for TACONY.  It would be a short-lived career. 

What Tom G knows to be true is vastly different, if Trebor recounts correctly and I believe he does, from what he says is true.  Actions my friend always speak louder than words.

Carmine D.

  Fast and furious. I beg to differ.This weekend  I sold four bagged vacuums to people who wanted no more bagless vacuums. One was a Dyson DC-25. When a person's health is the factor a bagless will lose everytime. I know Dyson has the Allergy seal from Great Britain but what about U.S.?   I have yet to see a doctor recommend a bagless vacuum to anyone with asthma or allergy in my area.or in writing. The cleaner of choice in my hospital is Aerus Guardian Upright. They have never used a bagless in the hospital. The only bagless vacuum I could see being used in a hospital or a  home is a central vacuum.

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Dib-ster:

The bagless fad's legacy in the USA, not sure about elsewhere, will be handhelds, sticks, robots, central vacuum systems and perhaps some applications for commercial vacuums/cleaning services.  WRT full size household vacuums, canisters and uprights, bagless will be primarily the venue for less expensive, non-repairable and use/dispose brands and models sold primarily through big box stores.  Bagged vacuums have been and will continue as the vacuum of choice for the majority of American consumers, households, motels, hotels, hospitals, restaurants and all other applications. 

Dyson made an ignoble attempt, through slick pitches and claims, to conquer and destroy the bagged vacuum industry as we know it.  He tried to make it exclusively bagless.  [Why is the question].  He failed.  It didn't work.  It won't work for all the reasons already detailed here.  You should be content in knowing that the legacy of your fave innovator Sir James is this:  A high priced bagless vacuum with a niche market in the USA.  Sir James will have to work very hard in the future, just like all the other vacuum makers have, to attract and keep customers buying his brand/models.  That's dyson's number one goal and mission now.  [Not warring against bagged vacuums].  By him reducing vacuum operations from 31 plus global markets to only 6 [US, CAN, AUSTRALIA, AUSTRIA, JAPAN, and UK] in 2010, Sir James and dyson are making a realistic start. 

Carmine D.