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DysonInventsBig
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #65 Jan 7, 2010 1:17 pm |
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How old are you? Effusive Hero worship and Toady-ness is quite pathetic in an adult I'm old enough to call out con men. Pathetic? - Wouldn't that be a fitting descriptor to a failed [can't get it done] designer?
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #66 Jan 7, 2010 1:31 pm |
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Dib-ster: Dyson's pitch is superior to dyson products. The proof is in the products' using. Carmine D. Hey Carmine, You’ve presented no demonstrable facts, and only slanderous words. So it’s settled... by definition, you’re an idiot. Although a beloved idiot (by your peers). Dyson Invents Big
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #67 Jan 7, 2010 7:34 pm |
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Hey Carmine,
You’ve presented no demonstrable facts, and only slanderous words. So it’s settled... by definition, you’re an idiot. Although a beloved idiot (by your peers).
Dyson Invents Big Dustmite, Carmine has pointed out numerous deficiencies/design flaws in Dyson and other products. He has also commented on the performance of his Dyson DC07. He has commented on Dyson's performance in the rigorous Consumer Reports tests. Are you so obtuse that you've forgotten these? You mistakenly believe that any criticism of Dyson products is slanderous. Dysons are decent vacuum cleaners, but they are no better than most vacuums on the market.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #69 Jan 8, 2010 1:36 am |
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Hey Carmine,
You’ve presented no demonstrable facts, and only slanderous words. So it’s settled... by definition, you’re an idiot. Although a beloved idiot (by your peers).
Dyson Invents Big
Dib-ster:
Thank you for the compliment. When a dyson shill calls me an idiot it's all the prove needed that there are no facts to contradict the claim: Dyson's pitch is superior to his products. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #70 Jan 8, 2010 1:46 am |
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Dustmite,
Carmine has pointed out numerous deficiencies/design flaws in Dyson and other products. He has also commented on the performance of his Dyson DC07. He has commented on Dyson's performance in the rigorous Consumer Reports tests. Are you so obtuse that you've forgotten these? You mistakenly believe that any criticism of Dyson products is slanderous. Dysons are decent vacuum cleaners, but they are no better than most vacuums on the market.
Hello SEVERUS:
Interestingly, Sir James does not improve on these shortcomings like the gawdawful clutch. He discontinues the models outright starts all over from scratch. I would think an inventor extraordinaire could get it right incrementally over time and practice. Not have to start all over from scratch. Carmine D.
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #71 Jan 8, 2010 10:48 am |
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Hello SEVERUS: Interestingly, Sir James does not improve on these shortcomings like the gawdawful clutch. He discontinues the models outright starts all over from scratch. I would think an inventor extraordinaire could get it right incrementally over time and practice. Not have to start all over from scratch. Carmine D.
Carmine,
So what would you like to see Dyson offer if you were king for a day?
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #72 Jan 8, 2010 12:14 pm |
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Carmine, So what would you like to see Dyson offer if you were king for a day? Hello SEVERUS: You'll appreciate my answer because you gave me the inspiration. A DC07 All Carpets with a better brush roll than the original version. Recall that Wal*Mart sold this DC07 model in 2004/5, w/o a clutch, for $319 as an exclusive. Sir James and dyson, if this model were still around today [rather than discontinued after the advertising/contract falling out with W*M], easily would sell for $150-$199. Dyson would be competitive in that price range, easily make a profit for itself and its retailers. In other words, Sir James would clean up at the big box store venues in the current economy. Sir James missed the market on robots. Shame on him. Especially with 500 engineers on staff. Didn't even try. For all intents and purposes, dyson is too late. Household robotics are dominated by iRobot's Roomba which has a lock on the market since entering in the fall of 2002. It's pushed out all the existing competitors easily. Dyson is non-existent and/or way behind in commercial uprights/canns. By now he should have been in the market. Same is true with CVS. Same with sticks. His handhelds are priced way too high for the performance and run times. Finally, the long awaited and talked about dealer only models. What ever happened to them? All show and no go. Carmine D.
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retardturtle1
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #73 Jan 8, 2010 1:47 pm |
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Hello SEVERUS: You'll appreciate my answer because you gave me the inspiration. A DC07 All Carpets with a better brush roll than the original version. Recall that Wal*Mart sold this DC07 model in 2004/5, w/o a clutch, for $319 as an exclusive. Sir James and dyson, if this model were still around today [rather than discontinued after the advertising/contract falling out with W*M], easily would sell for $150-$199. Dyson would be competitive in that price range, easily make a profit for itself and its retailers. In other words, Sir James would clean up at the big box store venues in the current economy. Sir James missed the market on robots. Shame on him. Especially with 500 engineers on staff. Didn't even try. For all intents and purposes, dyson is too late. Household robotics are dominated by iRobot's Roomba which has a lock on the market since entering in the fall of 2002. It's pushed out all the existing competitors easily. Dyson is non-existent and/or way behind in commercial uprights/canns. By now he should have been in the market. Same is true with CVS. Same with sticks. His handhelds are priced way too high for the performance and run times. Finally, the long awaited and talked about dealer only models. What ever happened to them? All show and no go. Carmine D. HI CARMINE I had a dc7...was a gift......i then gifted away. So of all the b-rolls on the market...who would you say had the best one/two to work on your all carpets dyson.
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #74 Jan 8, 2010 7:31 pm |
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Hello SEVERUS: You'll appreciate my answer because you gave me the inspiration. A DC07 All Carpets with a better brush roll than the original version. Recall that Wal*Mart sold this DC07 model in 2004/5, w/o a clutch, for $319 as an exclusive. Sir James and dyson, if this model were still around today [rather than discontinued after the advertising/contract falling out with W*M], easily would sell for $150-$199. Dyson would be competitive in that price range, easily make a profit for itself and its retailers. In other words, Sir James would clean up at the big box store venues in the current economy. Sir James missed the market on robots. Shame on him. Especially with 500 engineers on staff. Didn't even try. For all intents and purposes, dyson is too late. Household robotics are dominated by iRobot's Roomba which has a lock on the market since entering in the fall of 2002. It's pushed out all the existing competitors easily. Dyson is non-existent and/or way behind in commercial uprights/canns. By now he should have been in the market. Same is true with CVS. Same with sticks. His handhelds are priced way too high for the performance and run times. Finally, the long awaited and talked about dealer only models. What ever happened to them? All show and no go. Carmine D. Carmine, I wouldn't be too quick to count Dyson out on the robotic vacuums. Certainly they won't compete at the low price point. However, with followers like Dustmite, they could possibly compete at a higher price level. I'm no expert, but Dyson seems to be making progress in making tiny but very powerful motors that don't consume a lot of energy. With the right motors, they could make a robotic vacuum that could actually clean like a full size vacuum. It might also allow them to make an upright with a low front profile to get under furniture. I consider the long flimsy cleaning hose to be a negative for those of us who have one level homes. I'd prefer a sturdier hose that stores off the machine with a short Sebo like hose on the machine. I agree that a commercial type upright would be a plus - provided it's upgraded to be sturdier and have overload protection, lower profile for cleaning under furniture.
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