Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

No, I did not say you did. 

I never sold new Kirby vacuums.  But from time to time, a loyal Kirby customer would insist on a new Kirby to buy.  When one did, I always connected the buyer with a local Kirby distributor for a good price.  I stayed out of it and let them do the deal.  I didn't want anything for thre referral, tho it was always offered.  I will say in over 40 plus years, before Buffett was the Kirby owner, I never had a Kirby buyer return to tell me that he/she regretted the buy.  In fact, several came back and bought another and another over the years.  Kirby has excellent name brand recognition in the industry and a loyal niche market of buyers/customers who have been its mainstay sales for generations.  Tho I think in the current economy new Kirby sales would be very difficult regardless of the customer loyalty/sales pitch.

Carmine D. 

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Dib-ster:

PROCARE's post about Newcombe's 1922 bagless vacuum invention/patent rings true.  Sir James Dyson, an inventor extraordinaire according to you, copied a 1922 bagless vacuum patent/invention. 

Then, Sir James in his marketing pitch supposedly tests 5174 bagless prototypes, never once crediting Newcombe's patent, before finally perfecting the bagless upright.  Sir James Dyson takes all the credit.  Even claims all the knock offs are stealing from him.   Slick marketing reinventing and/or reinnovating truth.

Carmine D.

Based on your posts here you sold all the vacuums you ever bought including a dyson DC07 except a Rainbow which you still have.  By your selling actions and posts are you saying that all the vauums you ever owned and subsequently sold were not worth the prices you paid except for the Rainbow?

Carmine D.

Carmine,

The interesting thing about Rainbow owners is that they tend to be extremely loyal.   I'm always amazed when I read the overwhelming number of positive reviews by Rainbow owners.   Sure there are those who hate them, but most like the water filtration idea.    I heard an administrative assistant say that she bought one when she was first married - and paid nearly $3000 with interest payments.  It broke down after 7 or so years.   Yet, she still would like another one.  Even though it's a bit of a pain in the butt to use, she felt like she was missing something without it.   I was shocked that with her limited resources, she and her husband would even consider buying a Rainbow.  For whatever reason, there seems to be an emotional attachment to these vacuums. 

Hello SEVERUS:

I have a dear friend who bought a new Rainbow when he first got married.  He chides that his wife left him after 7 years but the Rainbow is still going strong after 30.

Carmine D.

Carmine,

You’re an idiot, but you’re our idiot.  :)

The Newcombe patent is a salad spinner (for fine dust), and not a ‘cyclonic separator.’


Dyson Invents Big

P.S.  I only spoon fed you (the group) the Newcombe patent because I was bored.  And you did not fail me...  you provided a good laugh. 

Dib-ster:

Sir James copied [stole] Kenneth J's patent for the ball facilitator and used it 13 years later on his vacuums calling it a dyson original too.  Seems like a pattern with your fave inventor extraordinaire.

BTW, being called an idiot in your eyes is the highest compliment I can receive from you.  I'm not laughing when I say it.

Carmine D.

  Centrifugal force and Cylonic actions work together to seperate dust and dirt. All vacuums use cyclonic action and centrifugal force. The Newcombe and Rexair it's predecessor use that seperator to to get cleaner air  thru it's motor. The main thing that hurt  Rexair before it started using water in the cleaner was the real fine dust like soot would go right back into the air ala Three Stooges and other comedians used in the mid 30's on. I am no Idiot like you that like to call people names. I have been nice to you and you think you are the only one here that knows anything.

                                                                     When I brought out Newcombe it was part of Rainbow (Rexair) history. Your thoughts about it being a salad  spinner is proving you to be the Idiot not Carmine or anyone else on this thread. No one cut down Dyson as an Innovator but showed that there was someone there before him. Root was the inventor on the cyclonic end and Dyson put it to use in vacuum cleaners. An innovation not invention.