Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Looking back over the past year, one thing conspicuously absent from this forum is a rabid Rainbow enthusiast.  Perhaps it is difficult to justify the outrageous price of these door to door wonders.   To some extent, a Rainbow owner has to believe in the Rainbow sales pitch and doesn't want to be confronted with any negative information about the Rainbow.    I also noticed that overstock.com is no longer selling the refurbished Rainbow SE's with the Wesselwerks small power nozzles.    Given the economy, it's got to be tough selling $2000+ vacuums - even if they can purify one's home. 

procare wrote:

Hello Procare:

I'll offer this in response to your observation.  In "slick" marketing, makers often try to impute social value or human emotions into an otherwise lackluster product.  Why?  To build buzz and spark sales.  Have to have one.  Be the first! "Sexifying" common household products has been around for along time but not called such.  Most relegated the comment to "it's sexy" with regard to appearance rather than performance.  It's a marketing/advertising ploy that makers use to veil a luckluster mediocre product in a light that allows intrigue [read higher prices].  Sound familiar?

Carmine D.

procare wrote:
Procare,

Since a regular poster here is into Google [porno] Chrome and role-playing...  I’d just assume to play it safe.


Dyson Invents Big

Dib-ster posts:

Dib-ster posts:

Dib-ster:

Where you stand depends on where you sit!  "Sexifier"... a product maker who uses advertising with sexy images to charge high prices for lackluster mediocre household products.  Recognize the product, brand name, and spokesperson pictured?  While it sinks to "slick" advertising that may/may not appeal to prurient interests I seriously doubt it is pornography.  Tho, the thought of an overheated vacuum with dirt swirling around in a see thru container may turn some OCD users on.    Know any?  I have to admit Miss IFA 2009 beats the gigantic mites that Sir James once used to pitch his products. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Carmine,

I forgot I said you had OCD some time ago...  I’m laughing.  You’re probably lots of fun to go shopping with...  no-doubt you loiter around the vacuum cleaner department interviewing shoppers, managers, the floor staff, fiddling with the inventory and making a general nuisance of yourself.  Your in your comfort zone here, but I bet many in your family find your all-consuming vacuum-anything (OCD) a bore and quite embarrassing too.

Dyson Invents Big

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Dib-ster:

You switched gears again from dyson, its pitches, celebs, and products back to me.  Did I mention that I'm flattered that I personally and professionally consume more of your posts here than anything dyson and his products. 

To appease your worried mind, my friends, family, people I influence and love, and vacuum professionals I know, enjoy me, as I do them.   It's all about self-esteem and integrity.  Doing and saying the truth despite the consequences. 

Perhaps Sir James should try using Hazel as a pitch person rather than Miss IFA 2009. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Carmine,

Since you’re the king of twisting (the truth) and shifting focus (away from the truth)...I’ll take 'switch[ing] gears' as a compliment.


Dyson Invents Big

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Dib-ster:

If that makes you happy, so be it.  The facts are the facts regardless of whether you are happy or not and regardless of whether you believe them or not.  The fact is when it comes to anything and all  things dyson, the plain and simple truth is that dyson's pitch is superior to its products.

Carmine D. 

CarmineD wrote:

Same as your pitch about Oreck and Hoover.

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

Here's my assessment [pitch] based on hands on personal and professional experience: 

• HOOVER WT/TEMPO is the gold standard for rug cleaning and gets first place, starting as low as $70. 
• ORECK XL Classic is a very distant second starting at $199 and gets second place. 
• Dyson's DC07 at $400 plus was all show and no go.  Dyson didn't even get the dismal third place showing.  It never finished. 

That's how they measure up price and performance wise for me.  Of the above 3, dyson does win my acclaim for pitch over product.  Does that count for anything.  I think so.  Why?  HOOVER WT/TEMPO and ORECK XL Classic are still made and sold pervasively.  BUT dyson's DC07 has been discontinued.  Gawdawful clutch and wimpy brush bar couldn't make muster.  Not even a signature dyson model despite all the stories about 5,174 prototypes.  Dyson's pitch [Never clogs, never loses suction] far superior to DC07 product [now dead and gone forever.............along with the infamous dyson pitch].

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Hardsell,

Just curious, do you feel like your Rainbow performs as well as the sales pitch?   As I've mentioned previously, I'm always somewhat surprised by how well most Rainbow users like their product.  They don't complain about the high price - they tend to praise the product and how well it works.   

Regardless of price, what vacuum do you think provides the best bang for the buck?  What has the minimum level of quality and features that would you feel that your purchase wasn't a disappointment?