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Venson
Joined: Jul 22, 2007
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #13 Dec 24, 2009 4:29 pm |
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It's Rainbow's responsibility to adapt to the times. I would advise Rainbow to (1) fix the power nozzle, (2) be more generous with the carpet cleaner attachment, (3) be more generous with the "sidekick" attachment, (4) a price drop and/or free or low cost financing would be a plus.. The carpet cleaners in particular are a sore point with many consumers. Requiring them to provide names of people who will accept a Rainbow demo within a short period of time is a nuisance. There have been a lot of complaints by consumers who say they've provided names but never received the promised carpet cleaner. Or the salesman doesn't call the people within the time period, so they don't count. Hi Severus,
Again, I have to agree. It would be wonderful if Rainbow adapted a gentler frame of mind when it comes to pricing but as none of its other door-to-door or niche brand competitors are reducing their prices it's not likely that Rainbow will. My last encounter with Rainbow itself was when I wanted to purchase its optional 16-inch bare floor tool. I contacted a rep and told him what I wanted and also immediately informed him that I was not about to pay him the approximate one hundred bucks it listed for. We agreed on $65.00 (shipping included and no sales tax as it was to come in from out of state) and I still payed two times what the thing's actually worth. This happens not with Rainbow alone. It costs over sixty bucks to buy a replacement floor and rug tool from Aerus. Rainbows mini electric nozzle should be included as part of the basic system. For years while the big kids were puting a dollar value on every screw, nut and bolt, lowly Kenmore has been throwing electric mini nozzles in the attachment sets selling with most of their canisters sold with PNs. And we're talking cleaners that sell from only $250 to $400. I think Miele should be doing the same but it just won't. What's the price on Rainbow's rug cleaner and the comparison to what you'd pay for getting one of the Hoover or Bissell machines specifically made for that purpose on the market? As for the "tell a friend deals", they're simply useless as Rainbow is an acquired taste and you'll be a long time looking for two more people, forget ten or so, who are even remotely interested. The tell a friend thing is mostly a ploy to cinch deals with possible buyers by leading to believe that they may have an actual chance to defray the cost of an expensive purchase. If I wanted a Rainbow today, I'd wait for a good deal to turn up on eBay and also consider swapping out the PN for another. Simple as that. Far less money and far better value. Anyway . . . Hope Santa's marvelously generous to you and that your new year's a bright one. Best, Venson
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
Joined: Jul 30, 2007
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #14 Dec 26, 2009 6:27 pm |
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Hi Severus, Again, I have to agree. It would be wonderful if Rainbow adapted a gentler frame of mind when it comes to pricing but as none of its other door-to-door or niche brand competitors are reducing their prices it's not likely that Rainbow will. My last encounter with Rainbow itself was when I wanted to purchase its optional 16-inch bare floor tool. I contacted a rep and told him what I wanted and also immediately informed him that I was not about to pay him the approximate one hundred bucks it listed for. We agreed on $65.00 (shipping included and no sales tax as it was to come in from out of state) and I still payed two times what the thing's actually worth. This happens not with Rainbow alone. It costs over sixty bucks to buy a replacement floor and rug tool from Aerus. Rainbows mini electric nozzle should be included as part of the basic system. For years while the big kids were puting a dollar value on every screw, nut and bolt, lowly Kenmore has been throwing electric mini nozzles in the attachment sets selling with most of their canisters sold with PNs. And we're talking cleaners that sell from only $250 to $400. I think Miele should be doing the same but it just won't. What's the price on Rainbow's rug cleaner and the comparison to what you'd pay for getting one of the Hoover or Bissell machines specifically made for that purpose on the market? As for the "tell a friend deals", they're simply useless as Rainbow is an acquired taste and you'll be a long time looking for two more people, forget ten or so, who are even remotely interested. The tell a friend thing is mostly a ploy to cinch deals with possible buyers by leading to believe that they may have an actual chance to defray the cost of an expensive purchase. If I wanted a Rainbow today, I'd wait for a good deal to turn up on eBay and also consider swapping out the PN for another. Simple as that. Far less money and far better value. Anyway . . . Hope Santa's marvelously generous to you and that your new year's a bright one. Best, Venson Venson, Merry Christmas to you too. I hope Santa was most generous to you too.
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
Joined: Jul 30, 2007
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #17 Dec 31, 2009 7:22 pm |
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I have never been a fan of Rainbow, remember my house is a Kirby home. I do, however, have a D2 from 1974 that I still play with a few time a year. Last year my Niece went to work for Rainbow for a very short time. Talk about high pressure. Not only did they pressure her to do everything, including lie to the customer. She had to stop during different steps of her demonstration to call her supervisor who would then high pressure the customer even more. It was very put-offing, especially for a machine that they would not discount in any way shape or form. Kirby the only other true DTD that I have dealt with are also pushy and high pressure, but they will actually deal off retail. I also dislike the Rainbow sales pitch. When the SOB came to do the demo, he couldn't give us our "free gifts" until we explained to his boss why we were not buying a $2200 Rainbow. Given that our carpeting was clean without the benefit of a Rainbow, I felt no need to buy one. He also seemed annoyed when I said that no, I would not run the Rainbow 24 hours a day as an air cleaner - if I had one. Others have pointed out that It is possible to buy brand new discounted Rainbows with all of the bells and whistles on ebay. I suspect Rainbow sales are pretty bad right now.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 30, 2007
Points: 5894
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #18 Jan 1, 2010 2:30 am |
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I also dislike the Rainbow sales pitch. When the SOB came to do the demo, he couldn't give us our "free gifts" until we explained to his boss why we were not buying a $2200 Rainbow. Given that our carpeting was clean without the benefit of a Rainbow, I felt no need to buy one. He also seemed annoyed when I said that no, I would not run the Rainbow 24 hours a day as an air cleaner - if I had one. Others have pointed out that It is possible to buy brand new discounted Rainbows with all of the bells and whistles on ebay.
I suspect Rainbow sales are pretty bad right now.
SEVERUS:
I suspect you are 100 percent correct. To my knowledge the only d-t-d brand holding their own in the current economy is Aerus. I believe the sales people and store network to a large part make the Aerus sales difference. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
Joined: Jul 30, 2007
Points: 1454
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #19 Jan 1, 2010 12:45 pm |
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I have never been a fan of Rainbow, remember my house is a Kirby home. I do, however, have a D2 from 1974 that I still play with a few time a year. Last year my Niece went to work for Rainbow for a very short time. Talk about high pressure. Not only did they pressure her to do everything, including lie to the customer. She had to stop during different steps of her demonstration to call her supervisor who would then high pressure the customer even more. It was very put-offing, especially for a machine that they would not discount in any way shape or form. Kirby the only other true DTD that I have dealt with are also pushy and high pressure, but they will actually deal off retail. Thank you Just! Those wet/vacs and the way they are pushed is scary. I used to think ol’ Warren Buffett was a good guy, until I learned he owned Kirby and/or does nothing to change the practices of these con men. What does good ol’ Warren make off a sale to a senior who’s been pressured and bamboozled? The old man loves money just like the young sharks. Carmine, don’t even try to cover this man’s [wrinkly] butt. Dyson Invents Big
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 30, 2007
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #20 Jan 1, 2010 1:40 pm |
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Thank you Just!
Those wet/vacs and the way they are pushed is scary.
I used to think ol’ Warren Buffett was a good guy, until I learned he owned Kirby and/or does nothing to change the practices of these con men. What does good ol’ Warren make off a sale to a senior who’s been pressured and bamboozled? The old man loves money just like the young sharks.
Carmine, don’t even try to cover this man’s [wrinkly] butt.
Dyson Invents Big
Dib-ster:
Apparently, with age your thinking has suffered a turn for the worse. Buffett does need me to defend him. By last count the Oracle of Omaha contributed over $30 BILLION plus to the Gates Foundation who matched the donation. Gates was recently recognized by the White House for his Foundation and its philanthropy. Just what this season is all about. HAPPY NEW YEAR! Carmine D. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 21, 2007
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #21 Jan 1, 2010 4:12 pm |
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Dib-ster: Apparently, with age your thinking has suffered a turn for the worse. Buffett does need me to defend him. By last count the Oracle of Omaha contributed over $30 BILLION plus to the Gates Foundation who matched the donation. Gates was recently recognized by the White House for his Foundation and its philanthropy. Just what this season is all about. HAPPY NEW YEAR! Carmine D. Carmine D. Good for WB. Take from the poor and give to the rich.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #22 Jan 1, 2010 6:13 pm |
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Thank you Just!
Those wet/vacs and the way they are pushed is scary.
I used to think ol’ Warren Buffett was a good guy, until I learned he owned Kirby and/or does nothing to change the practices of these con men. What does good ol’ Warren make off a sale to a senior who’s been pressured and bamboozled? The old man loves money just like the young sharks.
Carmine, don’t even try to cover this man’s [wrinkly] butt.
Dyson Invents Big Dib-ster: Apparently, with age your thinking has suffered a turn for the worse. Buffett does need me to defend him. By last count the Oracle of Omaha contributed over $30 BILLION plus to the Gates Foundation who matched the donation. Gates was recently recognized by the White House for his Foundation and its philanthropy. Just what this season is all about. HAPPY NEW YEAR! Carmine D. Carmine D. Screwing folks Mon - Sat, and tithing on it on Sunday is common practice with many. Gods smarter and far more capable than many think and certainly smarter and far more capable than Buffett and Gates combined. He’s been in the taking care of people business long before Gates and Buffett made dime one. Dyson Invents Big
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