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Trebor


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Oreck vs: Other Lightweight Uprights (At last a NO DYSON thread!)
Original Message   Nov 12, 2009 3:34 pm
I would like to hear the experiences of owners/users of the following lightweight bagged uprights in comparison to the Orecks and each other

HOOVER PLATINUM

BISSELL, now available as Karcher, Tornado, Powerflite and MaidLight

RICCAR and SIMPLICITY

HOOVER and ROYAL clean n' light

any others I have missed/neglected to mention

with regard to deep cleaning an various carpet/floor surfaces, surface litter/pet hair pickup, bare floor cleaning, edge cleaning, cleaning under furniture (nozzle raising up or not) noise, ease of use, and cost of maintenance
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retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Oreck vs: Other Lightweight Uprights (At last a NO DYSON thread!)
Reply #13   Nov 20, 2009 1:53 pm
Severus wrote:
There are other lightweights worth considering:
Sanitaire SC9050 DuraLite Lightweight Commercial Vacuum Cleaner at 10 pounds.

For what it's worth, Dyson does offer a lightweight vacuum as well. The performance was middling in Consumer Reports, but I mention it because they tend to have fairly positive user reviews.

Although canister vacuums tend to weigh more overall, I'm not sure that they wouldn't be a better option for someone wanting a lightweight vacuum. Certainly with some you feel like you're dragging along a dead pig. However, most of the time, you're just pushing the power nozzle with the canister parked. My mother in law who's in her 70's uses a 20+ year old Rainbow. While it would be heavy to carry everything at once full of water, in practice you don't. The canister rolls, and you only push the powerhead and the hose. Dragging along the canister might be a drag, but in general it sits while you move the power nozzle.


Totally forgot about the 9050.....ive yet to run across one....and havent heard anything on how it performs. wonder if its durability is on par with its comm. red line  big brothers tho? Anybody have a chance to test or use one yet?

turtle1
tomtlb66


Joined: Apr 23, 2010
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Re: Oreck vs: Other Lightweight Uprights (At last a NO DYSON thread!)
Reply #14   Apr 23, 2010 11:19 am
Well, I have been in the vacuum business for awhile now. I have sold my share of lightweights. As far as power and cleaning capability, Riccar outperforms any Oreck. Oreck only cleans the surface, it does not do a deep cleaning as the Riccar. We sell alot more Riccars than Oreck
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Oreck vs: Other Lightweight Uprights (At last a NO DYSON thread!)
Reply #15   Apr 23, 2010 12:32 pm
tomtlb66 wrote:
Well, I have been in the vacuum business for awhile now. I have sold my share of lightweights. As far as power and cleaning capability, Riccar outperforms any Oreck. Oreck only cleans the surface, it does not do a deep cleaning as the Riccar. We sell alot more Riccars than Oreck



I hear this often as a selling point for RICCAR/SIMPLICITY lightweight uprights.  Consumer Reports rates RICCAR/SIMPLICITY lightweight models over ORECK, but not by much of a difference, in fact very close in comparative tests.  Explain please, if you will, the reasons that the RICCAR Supralite deep cleans carpets better than ORECK which you say is a surface cleaner.  What gives the RICCAR the edge as a deep cleaner vice ORECK as just a surface cleaner.  In features and performance?

Carmine D.
Lucky1


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Re: Oreck vs: Other Lightweight Uprights (At last a NO DYSON thread!)
Reply #16   Apr 23, 2010 4:49 pm
CarmineD wrote:
I hear this often as a selling point for RICCAR/SIMPLICITY lightweight uprights.  Consumer Reports rates RICCAR/SIMPLICITY lightweight models over ORECK, but not by much of a difference, in fact very close in comparative tests.  Explain please, if you will, the reasons that the RICCAR Supralite deep cleans carpets better than ORECK which you say is a surface cleaner.  What gives the RICCAR the edge as a deep cleaner vice ORECK as just a surface cleaner.  In features and performance?

Carmine D.



1. Bigger motor Fan 2. Stiffer Brush Roll. Not only a deeper clean but actually vibrates the dirt up from the carpet and MUCH easier to push than an Oreck 3. Long lasting Belts (One version even has a Hall Sensor that shuts off the brushroll, virtually giving the machine a lifetime belt). Oreck belts should be replaced 6-8 months to ensure optimum efficency. 4. The Aluminum Handle Orecks almost always loosen at the screws making the handle sloppy and harder to control.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Oreck vs: Other Lightweight Uprights (At last a NO DYSON thread!)
Reply #17   Apr 23, 2010 6:13 pm
Thank you Lucky1.  I would add that the RICCAR is 5.5 amps vice the ORECK 4.0.  Does that make a big difference?  Maybe?  Maybe not.  BTW, while I replace the belts as often as you say on the ORECK Classic, I have yet to have to tighten the handle screws after exactly 3 years of usage this month.   I don't mind the softer brush tufts on the ORECK.  In fact I prefer it.  Why?  Makes for a much better vacuum cleaner on barefloors and tiles which is about 70 percent of my home.   I have always thought that the RICCAR/SIMPLICITY lightweights are a tad bit above the ORECK's in performance and quality. 

Carmine D.
retardturtle1


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Re: Oreck vs: Other Lightweight Uprights (At last a NO DYSON thread!)
Reply #18   Apr 24, 2010 10:42 am
CarmineD wrote:
Thank you Lucky1.  I would add that the RICCAR is 5.5 amps vice the ORECK 4.0.  Does that make a big difference?  Maybe?  Maybe not.  BTW, while I replace the belts as often as you say on the ORECK Classic, I have yet to have to tighten the handle screws after exactly 3 years of usage this month.   I don't mind the softer brush tufts on the ORECK.  In fact I prefer it.  Why?  Makes for a much better vacuum cleaner on barefloors and tiles which is about 70 percent of my home.   I have always thought that the RICCAR/SIMPLICITY lightweights are a tad bit above the ORECK's in performance and quality. 

Carmine D.



Hi Carmine

Ive seen the orecks under other names...some with medium to agressive brushrolls....and can see where the orecks would/could benefit from this upgrade or

at least offer this as an option....Lucky1 makes some great points.....and do agree with most...as riccar is my vac of choice/fav.

But from what ive seen, the orecks in my opinion are the more solid/durable built of the two.....an option on the brushroll is all thats missing...because the time tested quality

and soild build of the oreck  has been proven in both home and commercial use.

turtle. 
180pilot


Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Re: Oreck vs: Other Lightweight Uprights (At last a NO DYSON thread!)
Reply #19   Feb 26, 2011 12:49 pm
I've had the Powr-Flite PF62EC for about 2 years.  At  $ 159 what are you waiting for??

Strong build, made in USA,  dual fans  160 cfm.  8 lbs. You can get all replacement parts on line.  Yes it screams, thats what ipods are for :-)
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162
Re: Oreck vs: Other Lightweight Uprights (At last a NO DYSON thread!)
Reply #20   Feb 27, 2011 7:08 am
Lets not forget the humble Miele stick vacs- they're good if you can put up with the long handle.
Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321
Re: Oreck vs: Other Lightweight Uprights (At last a NO DYSON thread!)
Reply #21   Feb 27, 2011 5:01 pm
The Miele stick vacs use a telescopic tube as a handle and are somewhat adjustable, and can operate with the tube between the nozzle and the cleaner for long reaches under furniture. The one model will even accept a powerhead to deep cleaning carpet. The addition of a power nozzle, hand turbo tool and hose kit raise the total price to approximately $750.00. But for a household with mainly bare floors, some carpet that needed deep cleaning, and is short on storage, I could see it being an ideal choice. Some people will never satisfactorily switch to a canister.
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162
Re: Oreck vs: Other Lightweight Uprights (At last a NO DYSON thread!)
Reply #22   Feb 27, 2011 6:11 pm
Trebor wrote:
The Miele stick vacs use a telescopic tube as a handle and are somewhat adjustable, and can operate with the tube between the nozzle and the cleaner for long reaches under furniture. The one model will even accept a powerhead to deep cleaning carpet. The addition of a power nozzle, hand turbo tool and hose kit raise the total price to approximately $750.00. But for a household with mainly bare floors, some carpet that needed deep cleaning, and is short on storage, I could see it being an ideal choice. Some people will never satisfactorily switch to a canister.

Well, we don't have them in the UK. Last time was around 1990 and I bought one a couple of years ago. Miele named it "The Alternative" and carries model number 142. As such its a basic model and the UK ones only have a fixed height single tube with a slide in lock handle at the top. My mum uses it solely for hard floor pick up using an additional Miele parquet brush tool. There used to be a long flexible hose attachment for it turning it into a canister possibility, but I don't really see how it would work with the exhaust filter at the back - it would probably keep floors very hot if the stick vac was made to lay flat for a long period of time. $750 is a lot of money! They only cost about £140 /$225.15 when they were sold in the UK.
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