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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Original Message   Oct 21, 2009 6:59 pm
Lordy, lord ol' Jimmy D's cryin' again. He has instigated the banning of Miele S7 adverts . . .

http://www.which.co.uk/news/2009/10/miele-ads-banned-for-vacuum-cleaner-claims-186889.jsp

Venson
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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Reply #100   Nov 13, 2009 7:50 am
CarmineD wrote:
dyson DiB:

"What if's" and hypotheticals about Euro Pro have nothing to do with the facts about Which?, warranties, and dyson reliability, except perhaps for you, to digress from the subject.  

Carmine D. 


So it’s settled...  Which reliability ratings cannot be bought, but earned.  Since Which rates vacuums fro 0-6 years old they can no longer include British made vacuums.

Did you read?...  “Despite the problems, Dyson owners remain the most likely to recommend the machine to a friend, Which? reported. “ ....this is what T.G. told Trebor too.


DIB
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Reply #101   Nov 13, 2009 8:49 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
So it’s settled...  Which reliability ratings cannot be bought, but earned.  Since Which rates vacuums fro 0-6 years old they can no longer include British made vacuums.

Did you read?...  “Despite the problems, Dyson owners remain the most likely to recommend the machine to a friend, Which? reported. “ ....this is what T.G. told Trebor too.


DIB

dyson DiB:

Like Consumer Reports here in the USA with regard to vacuums and reliabilty, Which? is a consumer guide not the gospel.  Both leave much to be desired, but they are a consumer reference and starting place for the uninformed.  The best source of facts and information about vacuums are the pros and experts in the industry. 

WRT your reference, words are meaningless.  Actions speak louder than words.  The best recommendations for a product/brand is buying another one for yourself and/or for your friends, family and the people you influence.    

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Reply #102   Nov 13, 2009 12:15 pm
CarmineD wrote:
dyson DiB:

Like Consumer Reports here in the USA with regard to vacuums and reliabilty, Which? is a consumer guide not the gospel.  Both leave much to be desired, but they are a consumer reference and starting place for the uninformed.  The best source of facts and information about vacuums are the pros and experts in the industry. 

WRT your reference, words are meaningless.  Actions speak louder than words.  The best recommendations for a product/brand is buying another one for yourself and/or for your friends, family and the people you influence.    

Carmine D.


I would suggest... Which is gospel/close to gospel to millions of readers (paying customers).  CR claims to have 19m [total] sets of eyeball’s per month.  Which and CR have the responsibility and a self-burden of getting the real-world facts straight.

As for most (not all) independents...  would you suggest a buyer going to one of your friends...perhaps the guy who’s nailed his Dyson’s to the floor and bad-mouths them (per you)?  Most vacuum buyers haul-as past their local independent and onto a big box out of distrust.

DIB


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Reply #103   Nov 13, 2009 12:52 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
I would suggest... Which is gospel/close to gospel to millions of readers (paying customers).  CR claims to have 19m [total] sets of eyeball’s per month.  Which and CR have the responsibility and a self-burden of getting the real-world facts straight.

As for most (not all) independents...  would you suggest a buyer going to one of your friends...perhaps the guy who’s nailed his Dyson’s to the floor and bad-mouths them (per you)?  Most vacuum buyers haul-as past their local independent and onto a big box out of distrust.

DIB



dyson DiB:

WRT CR and Which? Just because you say that's the way it is/should be, doesn't make it true for all vacuum buyers.  The world is not ruled by cold hard facts alone, despite your beliefs.  Judgement and experience also factor into the facts.  The pro's and experts in the industry provide the wisdom to correctly interpret and apply the facts. 

WRT nailed down dysons, I know of no cases to back this up except your saying so here on many occasions and attributing wrongly to others.    

Carmine D.

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