Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Lordy, lord ol' Jimmy D's cryin' again. He has instigated the banning of Miele S7 adverts . . .

http://www.which.co.uk/news/2009/10/miele-ads-banned-for-vacuum-cleaner-claims-186889.jsp

Venson

Has anyone tried the DC28 with the AirMuscle nozzle technology?

Has this solved the issues with the clutch?

I don't see a full size Dyson canister with a power nozzle. Are the new smaller canisters going to totally replace the larger ones?

Trebor wrote: Hi Trebor,

I tried one out at Best Buy a while back and certainly liked the hose suction. Also I noticed that they'd got on the bandwagon and followed Hoover's lead by also incorporating electronic height adjustment. What I didn't get, considering all the bright ideas and mechanisms, is how they managed to mess up the low height adjustment. The cleaner is fine on its upper setting but when set for low pile it feels like you're shoveling snow.

The smaller DC22 series canisters are too expensive and also too small for practical use in regular-sized households. I don't see anyone but frivolous souls or collectors on this side of the sea bothering. Their suggested prices soar over the "full-size" DC23 models. In either series, one comes with a turbo-nozzle and the other with a PN.

Venson

Hi Venson!

Probably too much suction on the low carpet, no way to back it off. The Miele S7 is a bear to push on any carpet at full throttle. Dealer told me full power is really designed for bare floor and hose use. The auto adjust electronic models do back off the motor on carpet.

Trebor

Trebor wrote:
Hi Trebor,

We've sold a few of these and no problems have come back to us.  We also use one in the store when we're doing Sebo cleaning powder demos and no matter what carpet we're on or what level the machine is at we haven't had even a hint of a clutch issue.

Dusty

dusty wrote:
Hi Dusty,

I tried the DC28 at my local Best Buy which has industrial type carpet tile. It's very low pile and for whatever reason the DC28 I used was indeed difficult to push when I set it to low. What could have been the cause?

Trebor, I have had no problem with my S7 set on high speed for carpeting. It cleans well and is not hard for me to push.

Venson

Venson,

Maybe you are in better shape than I, but I thought the S7 was rather hefty. Of course I am used to a Tech Drive Kirby

Trebor

Trebor wrote:
Trebor,

I have a G5 tucked away somewhere thus I'm well aware of weight issues. Anyway, I'm used to full-size vacuums since way back and am kind of glad. You can't imagine all the money I've saved on gym memberships.

Best,

Venson

For those into the Vax stuff, I just bought their latest Mach Air model today. I've been hankering after something to replace my Quicklite upright for some time (U.S Dirt Devil Dynammite) and at a reduced cost of £123 I may have got a bargain. However it is not all it is cracked up to be and Dyson will NOT have to worry. New review soon!

Venson wrote:
The Miele's lowest subscore was for handling.  There were 3 user ratings (2 by same person).  The one who posted twice said that the brush roll stalled out on her carpeting.  Presumably she had the suction on high rather than auto.  She is requesting a refund. 

Severus wrote:
Hi Severus,

Can't speak for the rest of the world but my S7 does and has been doing what I need without problem. As I've mentioned, I'm a rural clod come from a background where you had what you had. We had an electric pump to deliver well water but also a hand pump that we used if it failed and we also knew how to prime it during cold winters if and when things froze up. Life went on.

Thus when it comes to vacuums, the steering feature is a "nicety" not a necessity as far as I'm concerned. Lots of things influence my reason for purchase but, bottom line, what I care about is whether what I buy cleans well. I have used standard uprights for years, meaning the Kirbys, heavy old Hoovers and Eurekas -- you name it. Changing direction with a standard upright has never been a problem for me and making acute turns only meant a push down on the handle to bring up the front end and pivot the cleaner on its back wheels. If that's all tragedy was I'd be very glad.

Although it's not a canister vac, using the wand and hose, I can work my way up or down steps with it with relative ease. Also, it has yet to present a problem regarding stalling. Any gripes I have are related to price and that the cleaner's internal parts are not easily accessible to or serviceable by the average owner. The nozzle plate does not clip on but requires a special screwdriver to undo it. If I ever experience belt failure it means a trip to the shop as far as I can see.

I am not dismissive of the overall issue of vacuum weight and maneuverability but considering the times and our economic situation I am often given to wondering over what people are going to do if things really get difficult and/or -- less convenient.

Best,

Venson