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Joined: Jul 26, 2007
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Lightweights
Original Message   Oct 26, 2009 1:56 am
Hoover (TTI) introduced a new vac a few months ago called the Linx.
And Electrolux has had the Pronto around a while (Costco's version uses a 12 volt battery .vs. 9.6 volt version in most retail outlets)

As it was getting tiring lugging the Miele/Bosch/Sebo up and down the stairs of my townhouse, I picked these up for various cleaning duties.

The Linx claims to be a Windtunnel design and actually did a pretty decent job on rugs and bare floors. 
It's relatively light weight, uses a simple Cyclone that so far seems to handle fine dust without immediately clogging its secondary filter.

The Pronto is either stick or handheld.  It uses a dust cone which is a pain to clean (pull a tab out and release, whack whack whack until no more dust comes out of the screened enclosure).

Both these vacs run for around 15 minutes per charge.  Linx uses exchangable Lithium Ion pack that pulse-charges in 3 hours, Pronto an enclosed NiCad taking all night to trickle-charge.

....and while I have seen the Dyson handheld, it really didn't fit this as it has no floor capability, uses up battery really fast (new versions supposedly do better), and has a shrieking motor (the Linx and Pronto,
while noisy, are bearable).
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Lightweights
Reply #10   Oct 27, 2009 8:35 am
Makes no difference inb this case HS.  Somebody had to buy to gift them away!  Still a sale.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Lightweights
Reply #11   Oct 27, 2009 8:41 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Must not be selling too well at the retail level.



When you bundle a free product with another product and sell for less than the price of the one, you lose a new sell on the giveaway and lose money on the sale too IF IT SELLS!  Reference DC16 and DC27.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Lightweights
Reply #12   Oct 27, 2009 8:51 am
CarmineD wrote:
When you bundle a free product with another product and sell for less than the price of the one, you lose a new sell on the giveaway and lose money on the sale too IF IT SELLS!  Reference DC16 and DC27.

Carmine D.


AND, the bigger issue, you don't get $1000 in new appliance sales to boot.  Get the picture?  Like dyson dib you have to take off your dyson color glasses to see clearly.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Lightweights
Reply #13   Oct 27, 2009 9:28 am
CarmineD wrote:
AND, the bigger issue, you don't get $1000 in new appliance sales to boot.  Get the picture?  Like dyson dib you have to take off your dyson color glasses to see clearly.

Carmine D.


I already knew the picture that you would paint. 

When your favorite is given away it is for good purpose.  When Dyson is given away they are criticized.

At least Dyson whooped ole Hoover into submission.  Same as they did to you.

This message was modified Oct 27, 2009 by HARDSELL
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Lightweights
Reply #14   Oct 27, 2009 12:51 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I already knew the picture that you would paint. 

When your favorite is given away it is for good purpose.  When Dyson is given away they are criticized.

At least Dyson whooped ole Hoover into submission.  Same as they did to you.


HS:

As usual you DON'T get it.  Look dyson fan, a DC16 retails for $149-$199.  Same as the HOOVER Platinum Linx cordless stick.  BEST BUY, which has the contract with dyson since April 2002, doesn't gift a DC16.  Doesn't sell them anymore in their stores.  They were the most returned vacuum product it ever sold, not counting DC11, which was discontinued.  BB gifts the HOOVER Stick with purchases of $1000.  If that doesn't say that HOOVER wins, then you are as obtuse as your ID10 T posts.

Carmine D.

Vacuumfreeeke


Joined: May 9, 2008
Points: 105

Re: Lightweights
Reply #15   Oct 27, 2009 6:13 pm
Wow... I thought the responses today would be intelligent vacuum discussion, but instead they are still the endless tit for tat and endless dyson banter.  Why am I not surprised!?  Isn't it getting old?

The Hoover Patinum vacuums is better than the Dirt Devil... more powerful, cyclonic technology, better battery...  I've not used one, but I know from what I've seen online it's a better machine.  Don't know if it's enough to justify the price.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Lightweights
Reply #16   Oct 27, 2009 6:32 pm
Vacuumfreeeke wrote:
Wow... I thought the responses today would be intelligent vacuum discussion, but instead they are still the endless tit for tat and endless dyson banter.  Why am I not surprised!?  Isn't it getting old?

The Hoover Patinum vacuums is better than the Dirt Devil... more powerful, cyclonic technology, better battery...  I've not used one, but I know from what I've seen online it's a better machine.  Don't know if it's enough to justify the price.



It was until a poster here made his usual ID 10 T comments and the person here who should respond and prevent him from doing so never does.   What's wrong with this picture?

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Lightweights
Reply #17   Oct 27, 2009 6:43 pm
CarmineD wrote:
It was until a poster here made his usual ID 10 T comments and the person here who should respond and prevent him from doing so never does.   What's wrong with this picture?

Carmine D.


You are the first to use the Dysopn word.  AS USUAL.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Lightweights
Reply #18   Oct 27, 2009 7:00 pm
The last I knew it was still making vacuums albeit crappy ones.  Isn't this Forum about vacuums?  Or is it about bladeless dyson fans and hand driers?  Mike W. it seems HS, an idiot poster here, needs some Forum guidance.  Can you help him out?  Or is it just me you think needs advice?

Carmine D.

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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Lightweights
Reply #19   Oct 27, 2009 7:06 pm
Vacuumfreeeke wrote:
Wow... I thought the responses today would be intelligent vacuum discussion, but instead they are still the endless tit for tat and endless dyson banter.  Why am I not surprised!?  Isn't it getting old?<BR><BR>The Hoover Patinum vacuums is better than the Dirt Devil... more powerful, cyclonic technology, better battery...  I've not used one, but I know from what I've seen online it's a better machine.  Don't know if it's enough to justify the price.

Hi VF,

The Hoover Platinum rechargeable stick is a nice idea and serviceable but, fully understanding what it is -- just a rechargeable stick vac -- the price, that of a halfway decent straight suction canister or upright, seems kind of out there. How I'd love to kow what it actually costs to make one.

For the all too many shoppers who make purchase decisions just by the "say-so" on the box, I think many may be assuming they're buying something more merely due to the price.

Venson
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