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Venson
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Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Original Message Oct 21, 2009 6:59 pm |
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Reply #72 Nov 8, 2009 1:19 pm |
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Times Online: Rich List RESULTS FOR 2009 Ranking: 76 Worth: £560m ($930m) Down: £200m ($332m) Source of wealth: Household appliances In February, the 61-year-old inventor of the bagless vacuum cleaner pledged £5m ($8.3) to the Royal College of Art for its new campus in south London. Dyson James, parent company of the family-owned appliance maker, based in Malmesbury, Wiltshire, had sales of £611m in 2007, up £100m, and profits of £88.8m, up 7.3%. Other assets, such as Dyson’s £15m Gloucestershire mansion, take the family to £560m. RESULTS FOR 2008 Ranking: 98= Worth: £760m Source of wealth: Household appliances Source: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/specials/rich_list/rich_list_2009/article6104959.ece
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Reply #73 Nov 8, 2009 1:24 pm |
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dyson DiB: What's laughable are you, and your out-of date dyson data and jokes. Ancient history. You and Sir James are living in the past. It's not 2005/6 anymore. It's the end of 2009. Here's a news flash: The competition has overtaken you/dyson. You're looking at the good old days in the rear view mirror. Carmine D. Just a reminder... You're not having a controlled conversation (you've stacked the cards) in a controlled environment (your store), using controlled side by side comparisons (your trickery or using non-real world junk science) with little Ms. Trusting, you're having it on the web... so belly up with a source (proof). DIB
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Reply #74 Nov 8, 2009 1:49 pm |
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It's just that I continue to see so many Dysons come into my friend's shop for repair. Many people spend in excess of 100.00 to fix a vacuum less then 5 years old because the repair is not covered by warranty. Huh? Many say they will not buy another Dyson, but the repair is the same as a Big Box vac, and they do like the performance, and they don't want to shop for another vacuum, so they fork out $$$ for the repair. People do abuse their vacuums, and I would say the Dyson is more vulnerable to damage from abuse than many. Seeing the dirt seems to be a big deal. Maybe people vacuum more, and slower when they see the dirt swirling around. But if Dyson really is selling 8,000 cleaners a day, if they are in financial distress it has to be due to poor management, not an uncommon phenonemon
Hi Trebor,
Hoover uprights and Electrolux canisters are our biggest source of repairs. I would offer that it's not because they are poor product but simply because there are so many of them out there. If Dyson is selling 8000 vacs in the US in depressed times I can only imagine how many have been sold in years previous and would expect to see a fair amount in for repair. As Dyson has only been in Canada for 3 years (and at last report still had the largest sales by dollar volume) we have yet to see many with problems. From our own experience, we've sold 112 units since January 1st of this year and have had 4 warranty claims. 2 DC24's with bad motors, a DC23 with a short in the power hose and a DC23 used to clean up a construction site (so it doesn't really count) All in all, it's not much different than our Sebo, Eurekalux, or Riccar lines. Like anything else on the market (except maybe Europro products IMO) as long as you take care of your equipment you're likely to have if for a long trouble free life.
Dusty
PS Customers love to see dirt swirl...makes them feel like the housework is worth it. Some time ago, it was said.... Q: What’s the number one selling motorcycle? A: Honda. Q: What’s the number two selling motorcycle? A: A used Honda. Dusty, thank’s for setting the record straight. Stating Dyson's are unreliable because they're in shops being repaired is a old con (if told by dealers and those who know better) and this con is often told in the UK too. DIB
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CarmineD
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Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Reply #75 Nov 8, 2009 1:51 pm |
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Just a reminder... You're not having a controlled conversation (you've stacked the cards) in a controlled environment (your store), using controlled side by side comparisons (your trickery or using non-real world junk science) with little Ms. Trusting, you're having it on the web... so belly up with a source (proof).
DIB dyson DiB: Your info and Forbes for 2007-2008 jibe. With dyson's net worth at $930 MILLION for 2009, as suggested by the both articles you posted, unless Forbes lowers the bar, Sir James will no longer be included as a billionaire in the March 2010. By logical deduction his net worth, read wealth, has declined from 2007 to 2009 by over $1 BILLION. In other words in 2 years Sir James, and by association, his dyson company has lost half its 2007 value. Now, ............if dyson's net worth is down by 50 percent, then dyson's sales are down. Yet, total new vacuum units sold in 2007, 2008 and most likely for 2009 are almost steady at the same level: 20 MILLION. So...by logical deduction some brand/s, read competition, are gaining market share in units on your fave brand. At least in the USA, which we are told represents over 2/3 of the new dyson vacuum market. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Reply #77 Nov 8, 2009 2:21 pm |
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Are you "using?" Only a fool or crook would balk at James Dyson's come-from-nowhere remarkable achievement and success. DIB
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CarmineD
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Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Reply #78 Nov 8, 2009 5:10 pm |
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Are you "using?" Only a fool or crook would balk at James Dyson's come-from-nowhere remarkable achievement and success.
DIB
I can assure you DiB I am none of what you say. And only one who is one of these himself would judge others in that way.
No one here, most especially me, is arguing about dyson's mark on the vacuum industry and his new-found vacuum related wealth. My point with you and others has always been, from the first you/they boasted of his wealth via Forbes and other publications, that making a money fortune is easy. It's keeping it that is hard. Sir James, despite your affiliation/realtion to him, and your futile attempts to convince others, most of all you, is proof. 2 years and out $1 BILLION. Let's see what's in store in the year ahead. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Reply #79 Nov 8, 2009 5:14 pm |
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Are you "using?" Only a fool or crook would balk at James Dyson's come-from-nowhere remarkable achievement and success.
DIB
Remember too dyson DiB, success and achievement is not a sprint in life, it's a marathon. Sir James, if you ask him, would most likely agree.
Carmine D.
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Venson
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Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
Reply #81 Nov 8, 2009 9:23 pm |
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Has anyone tried the DC28 with the AirMuscle nozzle technology? <BR><BR>Has this solved the issues with the clutch?<BR><BR>I don't see a full size Dyson canister with a power nozzle. Are the new smaller canisters going to totally replace the larger ones?
Hi Trebor, I tried one out at Best Buy a while back and certainly liked the hose suction. Also I noticed that they'd got on the bandwagon and followed Hoover's lead by also incorporating electronic height adjustment. What I didn't get, considering all the bright ideas and mechanisms, is how they managed to mess up the low height adjustment. The cleaner is fine on its upper setting but when set for low pile it feels like you're shoveling snow. The smaller DC22 series canisters are too expensive and also too small for practical use in regular-sized households. I don't see anyone but frivolous souls or collectors on this side of the sea bothering. Their suggested prices soar over the "full-size" DC23 models. In either series, one comes with a turbo-nozzle and the other with a PN. Venson
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Except it employs the locals not Brits. 