Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Lordy, lord ol' Jimmy D's cryin' again. He has instigated the banning of Miele S7 adverts . . .

http://www.which.co.uk/news/2009/10/miele-ads-banned-for-vacuum-cleaner-claims-186889.jsp

Venson

As most here will tell you, it really makes no difference to us.  The point is so obvious that it's laughable. Every one gets it except Sir James and his fan club.  Dyson's gone from monthly and quarterly news releases on how well dyson sales and profits are going to a dead silence.  Reporting the last 2 years' results 11 months after the fact.  

The truth is crystal clear:  Dyson was a multi-billionaire in 2006.  In 2008, he's a multi-millionaire. 

Remember what I said?  Forgot already.  Here it is again.  Money is easy to make once but much harder to keep making over and over again.  Even with almost $9 MILLION US handed to Sir James on a silver platter.

The truth comes to light [sooner or later], despite all the spin, excuses and sugar coating.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
What exactly do you find laughable?...perhaps it's his combined annual net income of $300-$340m (2005-2007) that you find laughable?...or maybe his daily wage of $320k (two years - 2006 and 2007) is laughable?

Did you ever hear the joke...  A dumb guy is driving his car slowly down the road.  A trucker wants to pass but the dumb guy won’t move out of the way.  The trucker becomes angered and begins honking and shouts at the guy to “Pull to the shoulder” (of the road).  The trucker yanks the dumb man out of his car, sets him down and draws a circle on the dirt shoulder and demands “Stay inside the circle.”  The trucker retrieves a baseball bat from his rig, he walks to the dumb guys car and destroys it.  To the truckers astonishment he sees the dumb guy laughing.  The trucker is blown away by what he sees and demands “What’s so funny!”  The dumb guy says...  “Well, when you weren't looking, I stepped out of my circle 3 times.”

Keep laughing.


DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

dyson DiB:

What's laughable are you, and your out-of date dyson data and jokes.  Ancient history.  You and Sir James are living in the past.  It's not 2005/6 anymore.  It's the end of 2009.  Here's a news flash: The competition has overtaken you/dyson.  You're looking at the good old days in the rear view mirror. 

Carmine D.

Something doesn't add up

 If  8,000 cleaners a day US is more than the sales figures of 2004 -2007 why would Dyson be making less money? Unless it is fewer, and if sales are dropping around the world, then less revenue would make sense. But what's this about an increase in market share? If your market share is increasing, then shouldn't revenues be increasing also? I'm reminded of the Wizard of OZ, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

"...As I understand it, Numatic's Henry is the sole contender. A respectable enough machine on its own merit, with a good following - although lacking in any recent innovation to the design and around twice the price of canisters with similar features..."

Eh? Twice the price of canisters? Get your facts straight MO0se.. the Henry is a tub canister roughly priced at £90 and the Vax V100 which is its nearest rival is £20 cheaper.. not exactly double the price. Both these canisters have larger dust capacities than slim line sledge canisters and are thus built to withstand bigger domestic cleaning.

vacmanuk wrote:
I made the observation as my father needed to buy such a vacuum for his workshop recently. The Numatic cleaners are the usual choice and easy to get hold of in the hardware stores. But they're a little pricey at around the £100 mark, so after some searching, we found the following at around half the price :-

Earlex WD1100 Workshop Combi-Vac Vacuum and Blower
http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/home-improvement/earlex-wd1100-workshop-combi-vac-vacuum-and-blower.asp

Trebor wrote:

Hi Trebor:

Read again what M00seUK says about the dyson financial results.  He's right on the money!  I highlighted the most relevant part to your concern.

M00seUK wrote:

Forbes magazine lists the wealthiest persons in the world every March, as dyson DiB pointed out here when he first posted the information.  Forbes did an article/interview with Sir James for the first time in March 2007 with $2 BILLION for his 2006 wealth.  He appeared on Forbes list in 2008 with $1.6 BILLION for 2007.  He appeared in Forbes again in 2009 with $1 BILLION for 2008.  The cut off for the Forbes list is $ ONE BILLION US.  However, Forbes lowered the bar for its wealthiest Americans recently to $990 MILLION because so many fell off the BILLIONAIRE list.  You can see the trendline over the years with Sir James and therefore dyson, since he is the owner.  Do you think Sir James will make it in March 2010 for 2009?  As M00seUK points out in his post, your guess is as good as another's.  Of note too is that the article DiB posted above which refers to Sir James as a multi-millionaire, not billionaire as was the case in the past.

Carmine D.

Dyson Malaysia - the only assembly plant worldwide.

• Employees:  Over 200 skilled workers.
• Producing: 100,000 units every week.
• Sold: Nearly 30 million vacuum cleaners.
• Countries:  47

Source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/9/6/focus/4655225&sec=focus

Times Online:  Rich List

RESULTS FOR 2009
Ranking: 76
Worth: £560m ($930m)
Down: £200m  ($332m)
Source of wealth: Household appliances

In February, the 61-year-old inventor of the bagless vacuum cleaner pledged £5m ($8.3) to the Royal College of Art for its new campus in south London. Dyson James, parent company of the family-owned appliance maker, based in Malmesbury, Wiltshire, had sales of £611m in 2007, up £100m, and profits of £88.8m, up 7.3%. Other assets, such as Dyson’s £15m Gloucestershire mansion, take the family to £560m.

RESULTS FOR 2008
Ranking: 98=
Worth: £760m
Source of wealth: Household appliances

Source:  http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/specials/rich_list/rich_list_2009/article6104959.ece

CarmineD wrote:
Just a reminder...  You're not having a controlled conversation (you've stacked the cards) in a controlled environment (your store), using controlled side by side comparisons (your trickery or using non-real world junk science) with little Ms. Trusting, you're having it on the web...  so belly up with a source (proof).


DIB