Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

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Carmine D.

The online review is good if the people are honest. I also like to find out people's opinions and talk  to the consumer. When I go knocking on doors I hear the same line. They say"If you're selling Kirby keep on walking." They let me talk to them when I say I don't.   A lot of Kirbys are sold but the people tell they bought to get them out of the house after 4-5 hours in their house.  I can't say a reviewer should say 100% that there are no issues on their purchase as on any survey. You want the manufacturer to have a new plateau to reach. The key thing I see in door to door sales is the way sales people are taught to communicate. The guidelines given usually are changed by the salesmen when he is no longer being trained and feels he knows better how to sell than the company.  Training Discs and tapes don't tell you to push, push,push, but to answer the questions asked and answer them by showing what your equipment is capable of doing. That is the way to sell. Prove to the consumer it will fit their needs and if it doesn't thank them for their time and go on. Nothing on the market is 100% made for everybody and to do everything. That goes for anyone that is a Dyson fan that thinks it will do anything for everyone.

                                                                                                                                                 Procare

Hello Procare:

I blame dyson for this.  It demeaned and impugned bagged brands to make itself appear superior and thereby charge exorbitant prices for lackluster products.  The strategy back fired.  Bagged sales are overtaking bagless sales at all price points in the vacuum industry increasing year over year.  By dug its own grave.  It can't produce and market bagged brands to make up the sales shortfall.  Unless it tries to pull a Starbucks.  And dyson is no Starbucks.

Carmine D.

HI CARMINE/PROCARE

You can only stick it to the people for so long.....eventually it comes back around. [CARMA] ....no matter what.  At one time dyson vacs were everywhere....now you hardly see  them at any of the stores around here....except BIG LOTS....who i believe has the largest display of unsold dysons around town.

I try to make it a point to ask the customer bringing in a vac /buying an item.....what they like/dislke about what they have......no matter what the brand...just to learn more and get numerous views and what they would change. A long term use point of view.  Many like what they have..and thats all that matters,,i just want to know why.

Ive heard good/bad stories of door to door sales.....it really takes a special kind of person for that job...very special.

Our new 1yr old Starbucks just shut down yesterday......gonna miss my large coffee w/ 2 espresso shots...sad day in hollywood.

turtle1

SB built its business on the real deal, brewed coffee.  It's entered the instant coffee market with Vie.  Why?  For the same reason that your favorite 1 year old SB store bit the dust.  SB is looking for new markets to bolster sales and revenues.  Here too, SB stores are closing.  Expanded too quickly and too costly.  Like dyson.

Dyson can't jump into the bagged vacuum market.  Not after bad mouthing bags.  Can't expand into the indies.  Burned those bridges years ago.   Dumb dyson moves.  Limited its venue to strictly bagless and the big box rip off stores, period.   That limited its customer base which also limited its sales market and its revenues.  Read niche vacuum and niche market.  You never want to limit your possibilities in business.  You want to keep all your options open always.   You never know what's ahead in the future. 

Carmine D.

I noticed you called Oreck an electric sweeper.  Is that similar to my calling it an electric broom?

Do you think Oreck is good for deeper pile carpet and deep cleaning them?

I didn't ask YOU specifically because you've posted here about ORECK before and I read them already. 

ORECK is the lightweight icon of the industry.  Not as good as SIMPLICITY/RICCAR but as good if not better than the HOOVER Platinum lightweight bagged.  That's my view.  For you and others to read it.  Same same I've always said and posted.

Carmine D.

Better than a DC07 pink with its ratcheting clutch and wimpy brush bar and self-adjusting head nozzle that sinks so far into the pile the brush roll won't revolve.

Carmine D.

HS:

You're changing Procare's statement to suit yourself.  Looks and sounds like more back peddling and pay toilet shuffling on your part. 

Carmine D.