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Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Original Message   Sep 25, 2009 1:44 pm
Hopefully this is available to non-subscribers:

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/home/2009/09/garry-ultra-light-vacuum-consumer-reports-review-best-vacuums-infomercial-dirt-devil-hoover-eureka-b.html

Inside Consumer Reports Test Labs: The Garry upright vacuum is a lightweight . . . in more ways than one


- good for bare floors and pet hair - not so great at carpet cleaning.

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #33   Sep 29, 2009 8:38 am
No HS, people on respirators should use a halo! 

Carmine D.

retardturtle1


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Points: 358

Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #34   Oct 1, 2009 6:35 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Venson et al:

You were skeptical and doubtful from the get go.  I went back and read the 50 or so posts on the original thread for this subject.  While I initially thought perhaps former disgruntled ORECK employees [if there is such a thing] were behind the start up of the garry, I hit a brick wall when I posed this theory to existing ORECK employees.  They were in the dark and surprised by the similarities but it ended there.  Obviously it is not the case. 

There is/was however ONE technical element with the garry that intriqued me, tho I was and still am skeptical.  The tools on board operation and performance.  This is the edge that garry has over the ORECK IF the tools give decent performance.  I wanted to check the tools out for useful and practical performance.  That was the issue that would make or break the appeal of this vacuum over the ORECK, IMHO.  CR was not impressed with tool use and I'm sure I won't be either.    Which bears out the suspicion I had with this vacuum.  Too small a motor for decent tool suction.

Carmine D.


HI CARMINE

Reguardless if the G-vac did great with its hose.....its still has many years of solid hard use years to endure, to even come close to  what you get with an ORECK....you can take an ORECK and use it in a commercial setting all day...everyday...take home and use it  everyday and it wont miss a lick......will work flawlessly for many years under xtreme use/abuse.......a great vacuume with a rep to match.

BUT have you seen the latest BOB THE ANSWER MAN infomercial.....for the NINJA  mixer/processor.....hmmm looks like a garry motor could be under the hood/cover of this one...what do you think?

turtle1

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CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #35   Oct 1, 2009 7:30 pm
Hi 'turtle1'

Agree with you on ORECK.  All the benchmarks of a leader.  Product recognition.  Product reputation.  USA made.  Leader in lightweight uprights in the industry.  Best return policy in the vacuum industry if not completely statisfied. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


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Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #36   Oct 1, 2009 9:18 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
HI CARMINE

Reguardless if the G-vac did great with its hose.....its still has many years of solid hard use years to endure, to even come close to  what you get with an ORECK....you can take an ORECK and use it in a commercial setting all day...everyday...take home and use it  everyday and it wont miss a lick......will work flawlessly for many years under xtreme use/abuse.......a great vacuume with a rep to match.

BUT have you seen the latest BOB THE ANSWER MAN infomercial.....for the NINJA  mixer/processor.....hmmm looks like a garry motor could be under the hood/cover of this one...what do you think?

turtle1


Oreck should last.  No dirt gets in the vacuum to wear it out.  Now if it pulled dirt out of carpet it would likely fail real soon.

Ever notice those commercial uses.  Carpet with little more nap than a piece of wood.  Can't recall seeing an Oreck used in deeper pile.

CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #37   Oct 1, 2009 9:35 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Oreck should last.  No dirt gets in the vacuum to wear it out.  Now if it pulled dirt out of carpet it would likely fail real soon.

Ever notice those commercial uses.  Carpet with little more nap than a piece of wood.  Can't recall seeing an Oreck used in deeper pile.



HS your argument falls apart based on the huge size of the ORECK paper bag.  One of the largest dirt containment capacities in the vacuum industry ever, if not the largest.  Especially in view of the fact that ORECK weighs 9 pounds, only one third of most full size vacuums on the market today.  Now, if referring to the itzy bitzy capacities of dirt cups on your fave brand, then I fully agree with your logic.  I suspect users grow so tired and weary of dumping the small dirt cups so often that they buy a cheapie disposable for every day use.  Relegating the overpriced bagless brand with a 5 year limited warranty to a storage closet.  Guaranteed to last a lifetime like the belts and filters.

Carmine D.

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Scott


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Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #38   Oct 1, 2009 11:27 pm
CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #39   Oct 2, 2009 8:02 am
Thanks Scott for the heads up. 

I watched the video.  It is well done by Kali and Saul.  But a few things to note.  800 units for sale but only 300 sold despite Kali's pitch that they wouldn't last.  $199 plus $25.95 shipping and handling.  Plus an extra $25.95 for a 2 year protection plan from HSN.  Why would you need if garry has a lifetime limited warranty?  Bags are $9.99 for 8.  For the shipping and handling.  The steam mop won't stay up with the head wipe on.  Note Saul and Kali hold it/lean it up against furniture when not in use.  The mop wipe came off in the first demo and Saul repositions before doing the second demo.

Clearly Saul and Kali and garry market this knock off against ORECK, the industry leader for almost 50 years.

Carmine D.

PS:

Kali errs when she says the mop takes 1-2 minutes to heat up.  Saul says 30 seconds like the ORECK Steam It.  Also note the v shape mop head.  Reminiscent of the BISSELL stick vac head.

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HARDSELL


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Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #40   Oct 2, 2009 8:26 am
CarmineD wrote:
HS your argument falls apart based on the huge size of the ORECK paper bag.  One of the largest dirt containment capacities in the vacuum industry ever, if not the largest.  Especially in view of the fact that ORECK weighs 9 pounds, only one third of most full size vacuums on the market today.  Now, if referring to the itzy bitzy capacities of dirt cups on your fave brand, then I fully agree with your logic.  I suspect users grow so tired and weary of dumping the small dirt cups so often that they buy a cheapie disposable for every day use.  Relegating the overpriced bagless brand with a 5 year limited warranty to a storage closet.  Guaranteed to last a lifetime like the belts and filters.

Carmine D.


More Carmine fluff.

Take a pint jar and call it Dyson.  Take a gallon jug and call it oreck.

Submerge each under water for 5 seconds.  Wait. We have to put a lid on the Oreck and make a small hole in the lid.  Which will fill first?

CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #41   Oct 2, 2009 8:37 am
HS:

The only fluff in my ORECK bag is the dog hair that my $199 ORECK sucks up into the bag along with the dirt/dust from the rug.  Something a dyson DC07 pink for $399 [before discounts] could never and still won't do.  Based on your analogy, dyson to a pint and ORECK to a gallon, which should consumers buy?  The pint size for $500 plus or the gallon size for $199 plus?  Dyson made in malaysia, ORECK in the USA. 

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


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Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #42   Oct 2, 2009 10:46 am
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

The only fluff in my ORECK bag is the dog hair that my $199 ORECK sucks up into the bag along with the dirt/dust from the rug.  Something a dyson DC07 pink for $399 [before discounts] could never and still won't do.  Based on your analogy, dyson to a pint and ORECK to a gallon, which should consumers buy?  The pint size for $500 plus or the gallon size for $199 plus?  Dyson made in malaysia, ORECK in the USA. 

Carmine D.



I would take the pint that will fill rather than the gallon that doesn't fill because it leaves the filth in the carpet.

The oreck is sitting on top of your carpet and not deep cleaning.  The motor is too weak to turn the brush if it sinks in the carpet.  High RPM does not relate to power.  Usually just the opposite.

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