Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hi,

Per Japan Today, Sanyo has come up with a new cyclonic model, the Sanyo Airsis, which is to be released in Japan on October 21st.

The Airsis' proprosed price is to be 115,500 yen (approximately $1,277 American). Despite some slightly radical design changes -- a hose end with dual grips and very different looking floor tool -- the price sounds a bit steep for a machine that's main claim is an upward directed exhaust stream. That's more an exercise of common sense than genius. Sanyo also says this cleaner excels because its filtration rate is 20 percent faster. Whether this implies increased airflow and/or suction, I do not know. Link follows:

http://www.japantoday.com/category/new-products/view/cyclonic-vacuum-cleaner-2

Venson

Venson wrote:

Hi Venson:

I recall the Sunbeam Courier [suitcase] well and the all steel Eurekas and HOOVER celebrities.  What a difference in prices: $40-$50 versus $1000.  The increase in inflation is surely offset by the decrease in material costs for the lack of metal.  So what accounts for the higher vacuum prices?  Technology??  

I read recently that the next highest cost for the metal materials that go into washers/driers by Whirlpool is distribution cost.  Probably true for other products too.  Another reason to buy American made.

Carmine D.

procare wrote:

Hello Procare:

I recall the Kingston tanks and canns.  The metal on the tanks was the thickness of bank vaults.  You could drop the Kingston tank off a 2 story house, and plug it in and use it without any problems.  Of course, you'd have to fix the 2 foot hole that the vacuum made in the concrete when it landed/hit.

Carmine D.

procare wrote:
Hi procare,

Thank you. You're right.

By the way, do you know the source of the Bee-Vac tank? It sold under many names including Kenmore.

I have a Saniway canister and have long been wanting to get my hands on the wheeled Kingston tank-type.

Best,

Venson

CarmineD wrote:
And how is this similar to the new Sanyo?   It has a hose, wands, and wheels?

Venson wrote:
Birtman Electric was the maker of their vacuum cleaners as well as for Sears.  Whirlpool would later take the company over and make vacuum cleaners w/the Whirlpool nameplate, as well as Kenmore.

Thanks Mike,

    Been awhile since I saw you post. Look at the McAllister and the Fairfax of now. They look the same.

                                                                                                                                        Procare

Mike_W wrote:

A motor, electrical cord and assorted tools too.  Tho the new sanyo is plastic, I presume, and old Sunbeam mostly metal body with plastic trim.  My perspective on similarity is strictly from design and form: like a hatbox, so to speak. 

Carmine D.

The thing is though with all these new vacs coming on the market how easy is it to tell if exhausts are actually putting dust around? Its like the toilet adverts on TV in the UK. You can't buy the actual stain spot liquid they use to show up what bleachs have left behind. Short of casting your whole house in ultra violet hues how can you really be sure vacs are leaving dust behind apart from actual vacuuming up?

CarmineD wrote:

Your anaolgy makes the Gary an Oreck.

vacmanuk wrote:
Prospective buyers merely have to look. If exhaust venting or diffusion is designed to directed and/or happen above floor level then you're traveling pretty much in the right direction.

My Miele S7's exhaust vents straight up from the cleaning head. This is almost ideal except that I'd wonder what happens when you clean under a piece of low furniture or a bed. Obviously the upward air stream would be deflected downward but to what effect I do not know. The solution of course would be to use the hose with wand and an attachment for those purposes if you're particularly worried.

Nonetheless, most people aren't the least bit worried about this issue and the finer points of design fly completely over their heads. As long as they see substantial results by way of a vacuum's intake they pay little attention to its exhaust unless it's obviously spewing clouds of dust. For this reason, the Hoover Constellation did well in our market for years and it's even experienced a re-birth. Also, don't forget the Air-Rider. Eureka for one made many good, sturdy canisters for decades and customers never paid attention to the bottom positioned or directed exhaust systems in place on many.

Venson