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If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Original Message   Sep 25, 2009 1:44 pm
Hopefully this is available to non-subscribers:

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/home/2009/09/garry-ultra-light-vacuum-consumer-reports-review-best-vacuums-infomercial-dirt-devil-hoover-eureka-b.html

Inside Consumer Reports Test Labs: The Garry upright vacuum is a lightweight . . . in more ways than one


- good for bare floors and pet hair - not so great at carpet cleaning.

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
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retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #12   Sep 25, 2009 3:18 pm
CarmineD wrote:
No authorized gary dealers either just like another infamous brand.  One garry vacuum customer spent $80 for the cost of shipping to and fro for service/warranty.  $40 to send the bad garry back.  $40 to get the new garry vacuum under warranty.  Another page right out of the infamous bagless windbag brand. 

Carmine D.


HI CARMINE

Finally ...some info on the thing...but no more than we already didnt know..i expected to hear more from CR about this one....people who bought this vac cant get a response to their questions/issues......no service whatsoever......i feel CR should have addressed this issue.and made it known..makes me wonder why not? ..this is an important area and one that should never be lacking....service after the sale.

As much as i dislike dyson ...at least they do respond...eventually ....even if its useless info..and they are nice /..sending you to vac shops that wont touch them/dont want them.....useless warranty.

turtle1

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #13   Sep 25, 2009 4:12 pm
CarmineD wrote:
No authorized gary dealers either just like another infamous brand.  One garry vacuum customer spent $80 for the cost of shipping to and fro for service/warranty.  $40 to send the bad garry back.  $40 to get the new garry vacuum under warranty.  Another page right out of the infamous bagless windbag brand.  </p><p>Carmine D.

The issue here if I recall correctly is that replacement of a messed up Garry -- no matter what the reason -- was to be free. The 80 bucks for shipping and "handling" is about the cost of a brand new on isn't it? If so, the whole is farce since a lightweight vacuum, decently packed and box shouldn't cost more than 10 or 15 bucks to ship via UPS Ground.

Venson
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #14   Sep 25, 2009 4:53 pm
Hello Venson:

From the 10th post of 23 on the CR page with the garry comments, I excerpted this user's review:

"I don't expect  free shipping if I was using the product for 1 yr.+  However, to have to pay another $76 for shipping and processing after 4 months of use is quite a ripoff. "

I opined this is $38 to ship the old defective garry back and $38 for garry to ship the replacement.  Upon reading again, the poster says it cost $11 to return so the additional $65 is the garry charge for shipping a replacement.  As the poster says: a rip off.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #15   Sep 25, 2009 4:57 pm
BTW Venson shipping and handling on an ORECK runs $25-$30 unless ORECK waives the costs as a special promotion to buy.  That's from the new plant in Tennessee, the city part not the backwoods part HS dwells in, to Las Vegas. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #16   Sep 25, 2009 10:31 pm
CarmineD wrote:
BTW Venson shipping and handling on an ORECK runs $25-$30 unless ORECK waives the costs as a special promotion to buy.  That's from the new plant in Tennessee, the city part not the backwoods part HS dwells in, to Las Vegas. 

Carmine D.



Once again your ignorance shows.  The factory is in the hills of TN.  I actually live a stones throw from Tom Oreck.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #17   Sep 26, 2009 7:10 am
Once again HS you prove that my 5 year old grand daughter knows the difference between making a joke and ignorance better than you.   

WRT the shipping costs and garry repalcements, reading more of the posts, confirms Venson's view.  The $80 is for the replacement garry vacuum.  Have to wait to see how this plays out in Peoria.  I suspect garry will have to fine tune its verbage to get into legal conformity or risk legal actions.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #18   Sep 26, 2009 7:18 am
Pondering the garry vacuum warranty, it is quite a scam in addition to rip off.  Garry makes more money replacing defective garry vacuums than selling new ones and repairing in/out of warranty.   Doesn't give customers a warm and fuzzy feeling when dealing with new vacuum makers and their claims/technical jargon.   No surprise at all that these garry vacuums are not sold thru indy's.  Any bets on how long it will be in business?

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #19   Sep 26, 2009 8:50 am
From the CR Web site that SEVERUS posted:  Here's how/why the garry posters write $80 for a garry vacuum replaced under warranty:

As with the bags, free isn't exactly no cost. You'll pay to ship the vacuum back to the manufacturer and $40 for shipment of the new model. All that on top of the $40 you spent on shipping in the first place.

In fact CR's figure of $80 understates the garry shipping costs.  Why?  As poster 10 says, he paid $11 to ship back the defective garry.  So the new/replaced garry cost him $91 not $80!  Suppose the 2nd garry fails, assuming another $11 to ship back and and $40 shipping for replacement.  Now, the shipping cost for the original purchase [with 2 replacements] is $142 [not counting the $200/$249 initial price paid and the bags every 4 months for $10 unless the buyer cancels them.  Very expensive proposition. 

Question:  What happens to the returned defective garry vacuums?  Refurbs?  Or dump junk?

Carmine D.

Lucky1


Joined: Jan 2, 2008
Points: 271

Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #20   Sep 26, 2009 3:07 pm
I'm sorry if I can't feel ANY sympathy for the burned consumers. Even if I wasn't a retailer I would still feel little for them. It doesn't take much to question the validity of a product that was advertised such as this was. The Consumers FIRST and foremost requirement was to buy by PRICE. They got what the wanted most... a cheap vacuum. They did not buy for quality, service or warranty. Shark products are the same. AS sophisticated as people THINK they are, they still can't figure out TV ADVERTISING. An Ad Agency is commissioned to sell a product, why would they EVER tell anything negative about a it, yet people are still surprised when they are duped? I would have a little more sympathy if they were misled by Consumers Reports because they try to be impartial. I do have to wonder, with all the amount of faulty picks, when they too will be of little reliability to the consumer.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Consumer Reports review of the Gary Vacuum
Reply #21   Sep 26, 2009 3:30 pm
Dyson, garry vacuum, fantom, halo, shark, and others reinforce the legitimacy and credibility of the indies like you and others who post here regularly.  When vacuum consumers get duped by the big box retailers, marketeers like Ken Garcia and the halo [recall a poster here who thought he was all that said FROM VIEWING THE HALO WEB PAGE ONLY that halo would sell a MILLION of them] and garry vacuums inevitably end up at their local vacuum indy for advice and help when things go wrong.  Never ever fails. 

Like I always say here, the vacuum indies are the backbone of the vacuum industry.  Always have been and will be.  The big box rip off stores come and go, the fancy schmancy marketed vacuums come and go.  The vacuum indies like you are here to stay.  In part to clean up the mess these fly-by-night crooks, thieves, scammers leave behind.  Threy give the vacuum industry a bad rep, not the indies.  BTW recall that former halo admirer typically bad mouths and trash talks the indies.  Offers no proof.  Gives no names.  Just the same panned meaningless empty words that bear no resemblance to the truth.  He gives the vacuum industry a bad name by trying to make a living off it. 

Carmine D.

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