Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Since I have been coming to this site I have seen bickering about Dyson, Hoover and a few other brands. But to me it is why is this industry important and why all the different brands and models. My feeling is that they are necessary to maintain a way of life. Cleanliness, health, and just plain keeping everything nice. We started with dirt floors, went to rock and wood floors. Floors were kept up with brooms for hundreds of years. With the advent of electricity the vacuum cleaner came along  with elecrtic motors.

Just so you know , I am aware of the types of early sweepers from the late 1800's.

So the question I put to you is why is it so important to be a bagless society of Dyson? Why Bagged? Why a particular brand over another? Give me and anyone that comes to this site some answers as to why and how is one better than another?

I am watching and listening.                                                                  Procare           54 years in the business and still going strong.

          

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB:

I am a seeker of all vacuum truths.  I go to great lengths to seek, find and reveal.  This site and the posters who read/post here like Venson and SEVERUS [and a host of others] do a remarkable job with providing the vacuum truths and facts.

It's hard for persons like you, who don't know the vacuum industry, but dabble here as a hobby, to understand and comprehend us.  You take all dyson criticism personal as tho it is directed to you.  It's not.  It's about dyson's products and product claims.  The dyson products should be able to go toe to toe in the industry with all the competition up and down the price scale based on facts, results and performance.  If dyson comes up lacking especially with bagged competitors as lower costs, accept the constructive criticism and do soemthing positive to assist dyson in improving itself.  You appear to cast a blind eye and deaf ear to all vacuum truth by using smear campaigns against vacuum stores and name calling for posters here.  You insist on defending James, and his products and claims [lies] but you offer only more panned dyson slogans and marketing hype.  This sadly puts you at fault.  You are either shortsighted and/or just obtuse.  Quite possibly you are both.  The reasons for your behavior are on you not us.  

Carmine D. 

mole wrote:
Hey, give a guy a break...  I’m just trying to “keep up” with the *fella’s who have their thumbs on the pulse and keys to life.


DIB

*The bad-mouthing do-nothin’s and never-were’s.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB:

You can't be and do both.  They are mutually exclusive.  We who strive for the pulse of the vacuum industry and hold the keys to its life can't be bad mouthers, do-nothings, and never weres.  These latter types are not in our sphere of influence.  Why?  Most of those you name call and impugn here with your dribble have years of experience in the biz.  They built honorable businesses and reputations in the industry with years of experience.  How many years do you have in the vacuum business?  Or any business?  Do you slave, I mean work, for a boss/bosses?

Carmine D. 

DysonInventsBig wrote:
CarmineD wrote:
Carmine,

So your wife's "cool with it." - She's cool with you role-playing or going along with other men who do?


DIB

DIB:

More soup questions! 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Let her make that determination and determine if it's relevant (a soup question).  You have no problem running to her with Dyson products (“to review”).  So, why not run to her with the "new you?"


DIB

DIB:

I don't have to run anywhere for anybody unless and until I feel compelled to do so.  When I do, it most surely will not be for you. 

Other than telling me I had a nose problem for addressing all the points you posted to vacmanuk, you have yet responded to my posts let alone provide proof to the contrary.  Another ploy of yours.  When confronted with the truth and facts, even a logical deduction based on the former, you skirt away and bury your head in the sand like an ostrich.  Look up the definition of ostrich.  It fits you here perfectly.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:
DIB,

Please explain how your fairy tale name "DysonInventsBig" is any more real than my rather arbitrary selection of "Severus"?  

Dyson does it little. When I go into Wal-mart ,K- Mart, Target or any other Big Box Store I see up to 10 or more bagless vacuums. It seems that they want to sell something they know will be replaced in a short time. Look in the trash being put out everyday and you find bagless being set out. I see very-very few bagged vacuums in the trash. People buy a lot of bags or the bagged section would not be there.

   Instead of being down Aerus -Electrolux sales are up. Tri Star sales are up, Kirby sales are up. Sorry I can't say anything about Filter Queen , Rainbow or other door to door brands but they may be up to. All these brands are bagged except for 2. FQ and  Rainbow.  Everytime one of these companies  come to my area an influx of business occurs. Not for bagless vacuums but bagged.

  People have been buying vacuums every year around 16-17 million cleaners.Why?

Hello Procare:

Vacuum customers buy new vacuums yearly and thereabouts from the big box rip off stores because their old vacuums are not working properly.  What's cheap?  Bagless.  What's hyped?  Dysons.  They buy a cat in the bag with no demo, no key points to using and maintaining, and no advice about parts purchases/replacements and service tips.  When the new vacuum fails after 9 months, assuming it was not returned during the grace period, they are stuck.  Call the maker, get the runaround.  Call the retailer, get the runaround.  Reference the recent wand contacts that failed under warranty on the Eureka-Lux Oxygen [sold by big box store for $281].  A common problem.

Vacuum customers will eventually get it.  When they do, they'll trust in their local vacuum stores for their vacuum needs rather than hoping in the big box rip off stores who profit on the sales of vacuums.  Of course a few vocal ostriches here will impugn all vacuum stores with their tirades of the vacuum stores' anti-bagless rants and raves.  Nothing new.  It helps the big box rip off stores sell their fave high priced bagless brands to gullible customers year after year with the great bagless vacuum myth of no costs after purchase.

Carmine D.