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procare


Joined: Jul 16, 2009
Points: 192

What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Original Message   Sep 4, 2009 1:20 pm
Since I have been coming to this site I have seen bickering about Dyson, Hoover and a few other brands. But to me it is why is this industry important and why all the different brands and models. My feeling is that they are necessary to maintain a way of life. Cleanliness, health, and just plain keeping everything nice. We started with dirt floors, went to rock and wood floors. Floors were kept up with brooms for hundreds of years. With the advent of electricity the vacuum cleaner came along  with elecrtic motors.

Just so you know , I am aware of the types of early sweepers from the late 1800's.

So the question I put to you is why is it so important to be a bagless society of Dyson? Why Bagged? Why a particular brand over another? Give me and anyone that comes to this site some answers as to why and how is one better than another?

I am watching and listening.                                                                  Procare           54 years in the business and still going strong.

          

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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #125   Sep 15, 2009 1:47 pm
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

When you spew untruths and lies here, and dyson spun fairy tales, my nose and mouth will respond to you and them.  Be assured of this regardless of whom/what are the recipient of your posts.  If you can't deal with the truth DIB, which apparently is the case and has been of late [amazing what no dyson bonuses for 2008 and 2009 will do to one's mental capacities], regardless of the source, then you are the one who is truly in need of rehab here.  Does your employer provide these types of assistance to its slaves, I mean employees?

Carmine D.


Carmine,

You support and play-along with the caped-crusader and Venson’s alter-ego by the name “Severus” (a Harry Potter character)... and you claim to be a man of truth and me living a fairy tale????

I’ll tell you a fairy tale...  bad-mouthing, envious vacuum dealers or dealer groupies who do not lie or have an original and substantial thought.


DIB
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #126   Sep 15, 2009 2:24 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

You support and play-along with the caped-crusader and Venson’s alter-ego by the name “Severus” (a Harry Potter character)... and you claim to be a man of truth and me living a fairy tale????

I’ll tell you a fairy tale...  a bad-mouthing, envious vacuum dealer or dealer groupie with an original and substantial thought.


DIB


DIB:

I am a seeker of all vacuum truths.  I go to great lengths to seek, find and reveal.  This site and the posters who read/post here like Venson and SEVERUS [and a host of others] do a remarkable job with providing the vacuum truths and facts.

It's hard for persons like you, who don't know the vacuum industry, but dabble here as a hobby, to understand and comprehend us.  You take all dyson criticism personal as tho it is directed to you.  It's not.  It's about dyson's products and product claims.  The dyson products should be able to go toe to toe in the industry with all the competition up and down the price scale based on facts, results and performance.  If dyson comes up lacking especially with bagged competitors as lower costs, accept the constructive criticism and do soemthing positive to assist dyson in improving itself.  You appear to cast a blind eye and deaf ear to all vacuum truth by using smear campaigns against vacuum stores and name calling for posters here.  You insist on defending James, and his products and claims [lies] but you offer only more panned dyson slogans and marketing hype.  This sadly puts you at fault.  You are either shortsighted and/or just obtuse.  Quite possibly you are both.  The reasons for your behavior are on you not us.  

Carmine D. 

This message was modified Sep 15, 2009 by CarmineD
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #127   Sep 15, 2009 2:26 pm
mole wrote:
Carmine,

Dont you realize that your dealing with an intellectual juggernaut.


Hey, give a guy a break...  I’m just trying to “keep up” with the *fella’s who have their thumbs on the pulse and keys to life.


DIB

*The bad-mouthing do-nothin’s and never-were’s.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #128   Sep 15, 2009 2:41 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Hey, give a guy a break...  I’m just trying to “keep up” with the fella’s who have their thumbs on the pulse and keys to life...  the bad-mouthing do-nothin’s and never-were’s.


DIB


DIB:

You can't be and do both.  They are mutually exclusive.  We who strive for the pulse of the vacuum industry and hold the keys to its life can't be bad mouthers, do-nothings, and never weres.  These latter types are not in our sphere of influence.  Why?  Most of those you name call and impugn here with your dribble have years of experience in the biz.  They built honorable businesses and reputations in the industry with years of experience.  How many years do you have in the vacuum business?  Or any business?  Do you slave, I mean work, for a boss/bosses?

Carmine D. 

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #129   Sep 15, 2009 3:48 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

You support and play-along with the caped-crusader and Venson’s alter-ego by the name “Severus” (a Harry Potter character)... and you claim to be a man of truth and me living a fairy tale????

I’ll tell you a fairy tale...  a bad-mouthing, envious vacuum dealer or dealer groupie with an original and substantial thought.


DIB

CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

I am a seeker of all vacuum truths.  I go to great lengths to seek, find and reveal.  This site and the posters who read/post here like Venson and SEVERUS [and a host of others] do a remarkable job with providing the vacuum truths and facts.

It's hard for persons like you, who don't know the vacuum industry, but dabble here as a hobby, to understand and comprehend us.  You take all dyson criticism personal as tho it is directed to you.  It's not.  It's about dyson's products and product claims.  The dyson products should be able to go toe to toe in the industry with all the competition up and down the price scale based on facts, results and performance.  If dyson comes up lacking especially with bagged competitors as lower costs, accept the constructive criticism and do soemthing positive to assist dyson in improving itself.  You appear to cast a blind eye and deaf ear to all vacuum truth by using smear campaigns against vacuum stores and name calling for posters here.  You insist on defending James, and his products and claims [lies] but you offer only more panned dyson slogans and marketing hype.  This sadly puts you at fault.  You are either shortsighted and/or just obtuse.  Quite possibly you are both.  The reasons for your behavior are on you not us.  

Carmine D. 


Carmine,

So your wife's "cool with it." - She's cool with you role-playing or going along with other men who do?


DIB
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #130   Sep 15, 2009 3:59 pm
DIB:

More soup questions! 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #131   Sep 15, 2009 4:18 pm
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

More soup questions! 

Carmine D.


Let her make that determination and determine if it's relevant (a soup question).  You have no problem running to her with Dyson products (“to review”).  So, why not run to her with the "new you?"


DIB


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #132   Sep 15, 2009 5:18 pm
DIB:

I don't have to run anywhere for anybody unless and until I feel compelled to do so.  When I do, it most surely will not be for you. 

Other than telling me I had a nose problem for addressing all the points you posted to vacmanuk, you have yet responded to my posts let alone provide proof to the contrary.  Another ploy of yours.  When confronted with the truth and facts, even a logical deduction based on the former, you skirt away and bury your head in the sand like an ostrich.  Look up the definition of ostrich.  It fits you here perfectly.

Carmine D.

Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #133   Sep 15, 2009 5:41 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

You support and play-along with the caped-crusader and Venson’s alter-ego by the name “Severus” (a Harry Potter character)... and you claim to be a man of truth and me living a fairy tale????

I’ll tell you a fairy tale...  bad-mouthing, envious vacuum dealers or dealer groupies who do not lie or have an original and substantial thought.


DIB

DIB,

Please explain how your fairy tale name "DysonInventsBig" is any more real than my rather arbitrary selection of "Severus"?  


This message was modified Sep 15, 2009 by Severus


The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
procare


Joined: Jul 16, 2009
Points: 192

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #134   Sep 15, 2009 6:53 pm
Dyson does it little. When I go into Wal-mart ,K- Mart, Target or any other Big Box Store I see up to 10 or more bagless vacuums. It seems that they want to sell something they know will be replaced in a short time. Look in the trash being put out everyday and you find bagless being set out. I see very-very few bagged vacuums in the trash. People buy a lot of bags or the bagged section would not be there.

   Instead of being down Aerus -Electrolux sales are up. Tri Star sales are up, Kirby sales are up. Sorry I can't say anything about Filter Queen , Rainbow or other door to door brands but they may be up to. All these brands are bagged except for 2. FQ and  Rainbow.  Everytime one of these companies  come to my area an influx of business occurs. Not for bagless vacuums but bagged.

  People have been buying vacuums every year around 16-17 million cleaners.Why?

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