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procare wrote:

If the B&D Flexi comes with the lady using it for $180, it's definitely worth the price and I'd buy one.

Carmine D.

Venson wrote:

Hello Venson:

A question is whether the 11 minutes run time is the same if the revolving brush is used.  Katie Waller is cutsie, perky and the English accent is nice but she does not demo very well. 

Carmine D.

Well it is only a short introduction Carmine, so it does answer a few queries as she did say from previous owners. If I wasn't a B&D fan though I'd be impressed to give the Dyson a try. This new B&D featured here however looks a lot more compact and I can't wait to see it in the UK.

vacmanuk wrote:

And as Katie Waller said so nicely, the B&D is more versatile than DC31.

Carmine D.

Most of the time I get more info with images than actual verbal prose from others. I know good marketing when I see it having been a marketer in previous jobs with household appliances. I'd say for the most part you're not really going to know what it's like until you have tried it. But in defence of the Which? video it makes the new Dyson look quite good against the compeitition. After all there aren't that many other independent brands shown online with videos, especially from the UK unless they come direct from the manufacturer, e.g Sebo etc.

Hello Vacmanuk:

If Katie would have devoured all the dirt remaining on the test carpet with the DC31, I would most surely agree with you.  It would have put the DC31 in good stead.  Leaving most of the test dirt behind wets the appetite, but raises questions in the mind of the viewers.  Why? 

Carmine D.

For the proportion of time given in the video Carmine, it was purely a short introduction. Yes whilst there was still dirt on the carpet it certainly came up with the pet hair turbo tool attached on the Animal model instead. I think most buyers would realise that anyway as getting up hair on a carpet without a roller brush can be time consuming. I don't think it was a full vacuum demonstration here and as the website does state a "quick trial."

Hi Vacmanuk:

I'm not convinced from the Which? quick trial video that a DC31 brush roll in 11 minutes [6 min if high speed is used] could do a decent job on the pet hair/debris on the test carpet shown.  Depends on the design and operation of the brush roll.  While Katie says the DC31 addresses concerns of users' comments about the short DC16 run time, her demo doesn't prove it does.  If I'm spending the price for a DC31 [$220-$270 w/o attachments], I want visual positive proof not just Katie's words [as appealing to the eye as she is and pleasant are her words].  If I have to pluck down the $ to buy/use a DC31 only to be disappointed [again, as with a $150-$200 DC16] it's going back to the retailer again [just like a DC16]. 

Carmine D. 

Vacmanuk:

Put the Which? Katie Waller video in proper historic perspective. When James intro'ed his DC30/31 on Youtube he had plenty of time to prove all the DC16/handheld critics wrong with his new higher priced handheld product.  He didn't.  Why?  He concentrated on run time improvements and the new motor's clean exhaust w/o carbon brushes.  Not pick-up performance improvements.  Brush roll looks and sounds wonderful to buyers.  But it has to work well to be worthy of buying and keeping.  DC16 wasn't.  DC30/31?  Based on dyson's track record, I have lot's of doubts for the price.  Dyson and James [and Which?] haven't addressed the core question of critics about dyson's cordless brush roll handhelds.  Do they have the capabilities to do adequate clean up jobs for their expected uses for the high prices?  If so, as Venson asks, why does it come with a $2.00 litter picker?

Carmine D.

Carmine,

Bravo!!!!  You’ve done a magnificent job (your anti-Dyson posts above) attempting to yank VacuumUK and other outside readers around (consumers who find this site) with your anti-Dyson rhetoric.  Good job sounding unbiased and even “fair”, no one can twist like you.  Not a peep out of you on the B&D suction strength, clogging filter, lack of rotating brush.  Oh, please explain how the model in the picture or you or any poor sucker who takes your bait (oops, I mean review) cleans a lightweight paper hanging lamp without it pushing or rolling away.   The only way for you to clean this lamp is to hold the B&D in your teeth and use your free hand to steady the lamp.   50 years in the business and you miss the obvious or omit the obvious.

No one can sound as unbiased, professional and concerned as you all the while you unduly and unfairly and inaccurately judge Dyson.

Bravo!!!  El Magnificento Carmine!!! 


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