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Acerone


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Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Original Message   Sep 11, 2009 6:17 pm
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #87   Sep 24, 2009 7:19 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
I wonder how much premium prices were added to vacuum cleaners once they could be developed to take bags? Spare a thought there!


In the 50's, Vacmanuk, when paper bags were intro'ed they were usually an addition to an already cloth bag vacuum.  The premium was the cost of the bags, not the product using them.  To mention several brands of vacuums that were cloth and upgraded with paper bag inserts [fit inside the cloth]:  GE swivel top canns, Lux XXX tanks, EUREKA canns, and Compact canns.  Uprights like HOOVER were still offered in both venues [cloth and paper] in the early 50's and for a short time HOOVER offered 2 upright models with the reusable paper bags.  Not until the mid to late 50's with the HOOVER upright Convertibles and Lux 60/Auto E, were cloth bags no longer available as OEM and paper was the standard.  The prices for the products with only paper bags were comparable with the prices for vacuum products equipped with the cloth bags.  No price premium for paper except for the cost of bags.  The benefit of the paper bags was their convenience over the cloths.  The cost for the paper bag products was the additional time, effort and cost to buy the bags.

Carmine D.

PS:  As a comparison, vacuums that were already using a paper bags vice cloths in the 50's, like the Lewyt canns, EUREKA and SINGER uprights, and the HOOVER Constellations [model 81] sold for the same prices if not less than the brands/models with cloth bags and cloth-paper bags.  Essentially no premium prices for products with paper bags over the cloths. 

I opine then that the next question you may have is what technology in the vacuum industry rated premium prices over the conventional selling vacuums.  I'll leave that discussion for another time. 

This message was modified Sep 24, 2009 by CarmineD
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #88   Sep 25, 2009 7:17 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Carmine

"...Customers are not impressed with hyped technologies that don't have a direct effect on product performance when the price is considerably higher than the competition.."

That same statement could well be applied to the Kirby vacuums that are £1000 in the UK and remain the highest and most expensive vacuum we can buy domestically. However in my mind it is not the best for smaller countries and at its weight and numerous attachments that most UK buyers seldom use, the Kirby cleaning system is a bit of a waste of money unless you're literally sucked in by all the marketing that goes with it.



Hello Vacmanuk:

As a door to door seller, with financing available from KIRBY thru GE Credit, comparing an all metal KIRBY made in the USA with a plastic foreign made big box retail selling vacuum has limited similarities [at least in the USA].   Why?  Selling venues are very different.  KIRBY has authorized KIRBY dealers who repair.  Not independents authorized by KIRBY, tho many indies work on and sell KIRBY parts.  Keep in the mind the KIRBY reconditioning contract too.  Basically restores [reconditions] the original KIRBY to like new condition for a fixed fee set at the time of purchase.  AN insurance policy if you will that regardless of what fate befalls your KIRBY, you can have it redone to original specs and condition for a fixed fee.  Talk to loyal KIRBY customers and inevitably this is a feature they have used and liked.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
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Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #89   Sep 25, 2009 7:44 pm
MM interesting. In the UK if you buy from any of the mass brands you'd get a year's guarantee by default and one more if you pay by card. Then if it goes wrong you'd be charged by the company concerned OR if like Sebo or Dyson you're covered for 5 years plus. Miele however do things differently; only a select number of their vacuums are guaranteed for more than a year and you need to pay extra to have 10 years guarantee cover.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #90   Sep 26, 2009 7:04 am
The rebuild service on KIRBY's is separate and distinct from the warranty which also comes with KIRBY.  It's a KIRBY only feature that has been used for all the years I know the vacuum industry.

Carmine D. 

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #91   Oct 9, 2009 12:10 pm
Hi,

The rechargeable B&D Flex crossed my mind today and I found a few user reviews at Amazon.com. Link follows:

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-FHV1200-Cordless-Ultra-Compact/product-reviews/B002FQJW4W/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Best,

Venson
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #92   Oct 13, 2009 9:13 am
Dustbuster Flex selling at Wal*Mart stores for $65.  And selling they are. 

No dyson hand helds.  None.  Not carried. 

Carmine D.

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