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procare


Joined: Jul 16, 2009
Points: 192

What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Original Message   Sep 4, 2009 1:20 pm
Since I have been coming to this site I have seen bickering about Dyson, Hoover and a few other brands. But to me it is why is this industry important and why all the different brands and models. My feeling is that they are necessary to maintain a way of life. Cleanliness, health, and just plain keeping everything nice. We started with dirt floors, went to rock and wood floors. Floors were kept up with brooms for hundreds of years. With the advent of electricity the vacuum cleaner came along  with elecrtic motors.

Just so you know , I am aware of the types of early sweepers from the late 1800's.

So the question I put to you is why is it so important to be a bagless society of Dyson? Why Bagged? Why a particular brand over another? Give me and anyone that comes to this site some answers as to why and how is one better than another?

I am watching and listening.                                                                  Procare           54 years in the business and still going strong.

          

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #76   Sep 9, 2009 6:53 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Carmine,

You had 3 blank responses (edited out)when I posted.  They disappeared and my post logged in numerous times.  I think a bug other than you has entered my computer.



Yes, you!  If there are too many connections on the thread, the post time is slow.  If you keep hitting the post button, the system queues up all the posts and adds them all on the page. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #77   Sep 9, 2009 7:25 am
CarmineD wrote:
Your mistake HS is going with the $ 732 ORECK.  Here I go for the umteenth time telling you this yet again.  You don't need a $700 plus ORECK, FEW VACUUM BUYERS DO!  It doesn't serve your needs any more at that price.  You're overpaying, a tendency you ofetn have, ref; your BEST BUY extended warranty.

  I paid $150 plus tax for an ORECK XL Classic in April 2007.  Free shipping.  And bought 3 more since and gifted.  All 4 for less than $732 and buku money left over.  Now I have an ORECK offer good thru Sept 21 for a Silver Series for $199 with free shipping and year's worth of bags.  ORECK offers new buyers this deal several times a year.   Your mistake [buyer's error] not ORECK's that you fell for it.  That's why they give you the freebies.  If a buyer makes a mistake and doesn't want the $700 ORECK they return free and keep the goodies.  What the H-E-double hockey sticks are you complaining about?  ORECK rewards customers for being idiots and not knowing what they want and for how much they want to spend.

Now, deep down dirt.  Again, ORECK's are made to use daily.  If you do so, you don't have deep down dirt.  Takes surface dirt 5 days to embed deep down.  If you're using your ORECK more often than every 5 days you're fine.  Again, for the zillionth time I'm saying this for your benefit.  Diff is I don't give freebies save advice.

Carmine D.


Carmine, regardless of you ego you do not know what most others need.  In your opinion who re teh few that need a $700 vac.

I have benefited from extended warranties and $19 is a cheap insurance policy.  YMMV, however again you can't speak for all.
Your $150 Oreck is not recommended for non carpeted floors.  If you keep the vacuum the gifts are not free.  If you take the special pricing you do not get the canister. Of course you can get it for $150 pushing the price back to $300 or more.  Seems to me that the idiots are the ones who owned products from a failed company then in desperation grabbed an overrated product without question.

I vacuum every 4 3/4 days yet the Oreck left a lot of dirt in the carpet.  IF your 5 day theory is correct then I have been right all along.  The world does not revolve around you and products have to fit the user needs.  Not yours.

Use your advice sparingly.  Are you forgetting that past anti Dyson advice already made you look like a monkey?

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #78   Sep 9, 2009 8:01 am
Your name should be HARDHEAD not HARDSELL.  You just don't get it. 

Again HS, I've posted before who would be the likely buyers of the $735 ORECK.  Go back and read it if you are inclined.  I'm growing weary of educating you.  You don't read and comprehend. 

WRT to $19 extended service warranty, you sold your dyson before the warranty kicked in.  You said so.  You paid $19 for the 2 years dyson warrantied the product.  Not very smart.  In fact, I have a sign waiting for you. 

ORECK's not recommended on barefloors?  Says who.  Post it here.  I'm curious to know your sources beside dyson advertisments. I have predominantly tile floors and ORECK is my first vacuum of choice for cleaning them daily.  I have to.  No choice.  Dog that sheds year round and a dear Wife allergic to the hair and dander.  $150 bucks over 2 1/2 years old and still head and shoulders over the DC07 pink for $250 after discounts cash rebates and incentives. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #79   Sep 9, 2009 8:46 am
CarmineD wrote:
Your name should be HARDHEAD not HARDSELL.  You just don't get it. 

Again HS, I've posted before who would be the likely buyers of the $735 ORECK.  Go back and read it if you are inclined.  I'm growing weary of educating you.  You don't read and comprehend. 

WRT to $19 extended service warranty, you sold your dyson before the warranty kicked in.  You said so.  You paid $19 for the 2 years dyson warrantied the product.  Not very smart.  In fact, I have a sign waiting for you. 

ORECK's not recommended on barefloors?  Says who.  Post it here.  I'm curious to know your sources beside dyson advertisments. I have predominantly tile floors and ORECK is my first vacuum of choice for cleaning them daily.  I have to.  No choice.  Dog that sheds year round and a dear Wife allergic to the hair and dander.  $150 bucks over 2 1/2 years old and still head and shoulders over the DC07 pink for $250 after discounts cash rebates and incentives. 

Carmine D.


Why not refresh my memory on who needs a $735 vac.

Who wants to use ther auto, life and health insurance?  Should we simply decline to carry insurance because we may not need it?

Two Oreck stores and the Oreck district manager told me they do not recommend using a single speed Oreck on wood and tile floors.  I inquired about an Oreck on Craigs List.  The seller said he had installed wood floors and since Oreck does not recommend single speed on them he was selling.

How many times do I have to repeat.  I used a DC07 for 3 years with absolutely no problems.  Cleaned where the Oreck failed. One more time.  The world does not revolve around you and your usage.  Venson even admits that the Miele is not for all (probably not for most).  Why doesn't he use Oreck?

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #80   Sep 9, 2009 8:58 am
Do you know the name of the ORECK district manager.  Message it to me here/offline. I want to talk to him.  Most ORECK store managers say the ORECK two speeds are not needed except in rare cases.  Are you sure you understood correctly??  I don't think so!

BTW, the HOOVER bagged Platinum is 2 speed.  I didn't care for the low speed.  It's a selling feature but I suspect not used by most buyers/users.  These vacuums don't have strong enough motors to warrant a low speed.  Not even the new HOOVER bagged.  If they did, they'd have attachments on board. 

SInce you want to change your story again about your dyson:  Then you paid $19 for one year, rather than 3 years.  Still not very smart.  Sign is still available IN BOLD PRINT. 

I don't believe that you bought a new dyson from BB.  Never did.  I said and still say you got a free dyson refurb from a poster here and resold it to get the proceeds to buy your Royal bagged model, and an Indy store brand. 

I won't refresh your memory on ORECK.  Sorry HS you're out of luck.  Too much ego and not enough sense.  Not my job to educate and worse reeducate the obtuse.  Do a search and read it if you are inclined.  Or better still ask the ORECK district manager.  Get it right this time, please.

The point HARDSELL that you miss all the time when you talk about an $800 ORECK is that YOU don't have to buy it.  Nor anyone else.  Or do you have to buy the $299 ORECK with the freebies.  You and others have the option to buy the upright solo for $150-199 depending on the sale/discount.  Or buy used for $25-$50. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Sep 9, 2009 by CarmineD
mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #81   Sep 9, 2009 9:24 am
Hey,

I really dont see any problem with the oreck on bare floors,any kind,wood,tile,pergo etc.Doesnt oreck have the corner brushes and plastic strip behind the brush roll just for this purpose?

I would be inclined to say the oreck stores/salespeople say this just to upsell to the upright canister combo.

The oreck by itself is just basically rug cleaning, Take it out unwrap the long cord and vacuum your carpets maybe hit the flooring inadvertanly and get the job done.

The 2 speeds are just fluff, its not a 2speed motor its the switch that has a diode or resistor in it to slow it down.

Why must this get so complicated? most people dont like to vacuum its as much fun as mowing your lawn.

regards

MOLE    

So is it safe to say that dyson done fleecing the consumers in the USA.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #82   Sep 9, 2009 9:54 am
This message was modified Sep 9, 2009 by HARDSELL
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #83   Sep 9, 2009 12:56 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
MOLE, you and Carmine are absolutely right on this one. 



Thank you HS.

Carmine D.

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #84   Sep 9, 2009 1:22 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Thank you HS.

Carmine D.

HI CARMINE

Awwww  see Carmine, HS can be all warm and fuzzy when he wants to be.

turtle1

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: What makes the vacuum cleaner inustry so important?
Reply #85   Sep 9, 2009 1:40 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
HI CARMINE

Carmine, mole.  I have seen the light.  HS nows hsi sheet  A vacuum that requires daily use is no better than a broom.

turtle1



Thanks turtle.  You might make it yet kiddo
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