Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Since I have been coming to this site I have seen bickering about Dyson, Hoover and a few other brands. But to me it is why is this industry important and why all the different brands and models. My feeling is that they are necessary to maintain a way of life. Cleanliness, health, and just plain keeping everything nice. We started with dirt floors, went to rock and wood floors. Floors were kept up with brooms for hundreds of years. With the advent of electricity the vacuum cleaner came along  with elecrtic motors.

Just so you know , I am aware of the types of early sweepers from the late 1800's.

So the question I put to you is why is it so important to be a bagless society of Dyson? Why Bagged? Why a particular brand over another? Give me and anyone that comes to this site some answers as to why and how is one better than another?

I am watching and listening.                                                                  Procare           54 years in the business and still going strong.

          

Carmine,

You had 3 blank responses (edited out)when I posted.  They disappeared and my post logged in numerous times.  I think a bug other than you has entered my computer.

CarmineD wrote:

I was waiting for that one Carmine.

The last thing Hoover told me was to return the vacuum to the store if it did not perform to my satisfaction.

CarmineD wrote:

The Hoover rep said that the vacuum may be difficult to push on thicker carpets but the self adjusting feature would eventually adjust to make vacuuming easier.  I asked how it adjusted since it has 4 wheels.  She said something to the effect that it just senses and adjusts.  Adjusts what, the brush roll?  I said It sounds like a thermos bottle knowing when to keep contents hot or cold.  My grandfather used to keep iced tean and chili in his thermos.

I have medium pile carpet, laminate and tile.  The Oreck groomed the carpet beautifully but failed to remove deep dirt.  I actually liked most everything else about the Oreck. Except the $800 price tag.

I used the Platinum in Sears.  It glided over the carpeted area in the vac area (like on a wood floor)  but seemed to drag some on a short knap rug by the display.  The regular carpeted area was very short almost like indoor/outdoor glue down.

HARDSELL wrote:

And HS the reason for returns and refurbs.  Let me say this for you again [for the 30th time].  HOOVER blew it when they kow towed to the big box retailers in the late 60's at the expense of the Indie's.  Dyson made the same identical exact mistake. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Your mistake HS is going with the $ 732 ORECK.  Here I go for the umteenth time telling you this yet again.  You don't need a $700 plus ORECK, FEW VACUUM BUYERS DO!  It doesn't serve your needs any more at that price.  You're overpaying, a tendency you ofetn have, ref; your BEST BUY extended warranty.

  I paid $150 plus tax for an ORECK XL Classic in April 2007.  Free shipping.  And bought 3 more since and gifted.  All 4 for less than $732 and buku money left over.  Now I have an ORECK offer good thru Sept 21 for a Silver Series for $199 with free shipping and year's worth of bags.  ORECK offers new buyers this deal several times a year.   Your mistake [buyer's error] not ORECK's that you fell for it.  That's why they give you the freebies.  If a buyer makes a mistake and doesn't want the $700 ORECK they return free and keep the goodies.  What the H-E-double hockey sticks are you complaining about?  ORECK rewards customers for being idiots and not knowing what they want and for how much they want to spend.

Now, deep down dirt.  Again, ORECK's are made to use daily.  If you do so, you don't have deep down dirt.  Takes surface dirt 5 days to embed deep down.  If you're using your ORECK more often than every 5 days you're fine.  Again, for the zillionth time I'm saying this for your benefit.  Diff is I don't give freebies save advice.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Yes, you!  If there are too many connections on the thread, the post time is slow.  If you keep hitting the post button, the system queues up all the posts and adds them all on the page. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine, regardless of you ego you do not know what most others need.  In your opinion who re teh few that need a $700 vac.

I have benefited from extended warranties and $19 is a cheap insurance policy.  YMMV, however again you can't speak for all.
Your $150 Oreck is not recommended for non carpeted floors.  If you keep the vacuum the gifts are not free.  If you take the special pricing you do not get the canister. Of course you can get it for $150 pushing the price back to $300 or more.  Seems to me that the idiots are the ones who owned products from a failed company then in desperation grabbed an overrated product without question.

I vacuum every 4 3/4 days yet the Oreck left a lot of dirt in the carpet.  IF your 5 day theory is correct then I have been right all along.  The world does not revolve around you and products have to fit the user needs.  Not yours.

Use your advice sparingly.  Are you forgetting that past anti Dyson advice already made you look like a monkey?

Your name should be HARDHEAD not HARDSELL.  You just don't get it. 

Again HS, I've posted before who would be the likely buyers of the $735 ORECK.  Go back and read it if you are inclined.  I'm growing weary of educating you.  You don't read and comprehend. 

WRT to $19 extended service warranty, you sold your dyson before the warranty kicked in.  You said so.  You paid $19 for the 2 years dyson warrantied the product.  Not very smart.  In fact, I have a sign waiting for you. 

ORECK's not recommended on barefloors?  Says who.  Post it here.  I'm curious to know your sources beside dyson advertisments. I have predominantly tile floors and ORECK is my first vacuum of choice for cleaning them daily.  I have to.  No choice.  Dog that sheds year round and a dear Wife allergic to the hair and dander.  $150 bucks over 2 1/2 years old and still head and shoulders over the DC07 pink for $250 after discounts cash rebates and incentives. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Why not refresh my memory on who needs a $735 vac.

Who wants to use ther auto, life and health insurance?  Should we simply decline to carry insurance because we may not need it?

Two Oreck stores and the Oreck district manager told me they do not recommend using a single speed Oreck on wood and tile floors.  I inquired about an Oreck on Craigs List.  The seller said he had installed wood floors and since Oreck does not recommend single speed on them he was selling.

How many times do I have to repeat.  I used a DC07 for 3 years with absolutely no problems.  Cleaned where the Oreck failed. One more time.  The world does not revolve around you and your usage.  Venson even admits that the Miele is not for all (probably not for most).  Why doesn't he use Oreck?

Do you know the name of the ORECK district manager.  Message it to me here/offline. I want to talk to him.  Most ORECK store managers say the ORECK two speeds are not needed except in rare cases.  Are you sure you understood correctly??  I don't think so!

BTW, the HOOVER bagged Platinum is 2 speed.  I didn't care for the low speed.  It's a selling feature but I suspect not used by most buyers/users.  These vacuums don't have strong enough motors to warrant a low speed.  Not even the new HOOVER bagged.  If they did, they'd have attachments on board. 

SInce you want to change your story again about your dyson:  Then you paid $19 for one year, rather than 3 years.  Still not very smart.  Sign is still available IN BOLD PRINT. 

I don't believe that you bought a new dyson from BB.  Never did.  I said and still say you got a free dyson refurb from a poster here and resold it to get the proceeds to buy your Royal bagged model, and an Indy store brand. 

I won't refresh your memory on ORECK.  Sorry HS you're out of luck.  Too much ego and not enough sense.  Not my job to educate and worse reeducate the obtuse.  Do a search and read it if you are inclined.  Or better still ask the ORECK district manager.  Get it right this time, please.

The point HARDSELL that you miss all the time when you talk about an $800 ORECK is that YOU don't have to buy it.  Nor anyone else.  Or do you have to buy the $299 ORECK with the freebies.  You and others have the option to buy the upright solo for $150-199 depending on the sale/discount.  Or buy used for $25-$50. 

Carmine D.