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Acerone


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Oreck XL Pro-Plus @ Costco... Now with pictures...
Original Message   Jun 24, 2009 1:30 pm
Saw today the Costco now sell the Oreck for $299 something I really didn't pay close attention just noticed a black charcoal color vacuum that everyone seem to have in the shopping cart...<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Oreck XL Pro-Plus @ Costco... Now with pictures...
Reply #59   Aug 29, 2009 7:29 am
retardturtle1 wrote:
HI CARMINE

 He rents the store..id use the name and inventory.....we have a very good rep around here....top notch cust serv/repairs..

.no pressure sales ...so the name is a keeper.But thats  [IF] he can let it go...IF- little word big meaning.  -Id say let her use the tempo

'' it is then shell see that she got ripped off...that an $80 vac can outperform her overpriced dyson...her carpets/rugs will be cleaner

and look better than they ever have..guarenteed and at hundreds and hundreds less....and in the process a Brit will be converted/reformed........jump ship.

But either one are far better than the dyson...so its win-win.

turtle1



Hi 'turtle1'

Find a good busy location and buy the store.  Good use of the franchise fee.  I suggest not to rent if you can.  Just my opinion.  Own.  Don't worry about his good rep.  You'll develop your own in short order.  Grape vine, word of mouth spreads quickly. 

Ironically, several years ago Consumer Reports did a review of the HOOVER TEMPO and I showed to this kind lady.  She was impressed and said shed like to have one.  She already owned a dyson.  I supect like you and Procare say it's the pre-motor filter and cyclones that are dirt filled.  Probably have been happening for awhile and now with nothing to dump, she knows there's a problem.  I'll check it out and leave a vacuum for her if necessary.  Probably leave the TEMPO.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Oreck XL Pro-Plus @ Costco... Now with pictures...
Reply #60   Aug 29, 2009 4:36 pm
Venson wrote:
Hi Carmine,

Let us know if it's a clog or dirty filters.

Venson


Hello Venson et al:


You know something's wrong with a dyson when the dirt inside the bin justs sits there and doesn't whirl around.  Several problems:  Both filters are dirty and the pre-motor filter is filthy.  The shroud holes are all clogged with fine dirt and dog hair.  I asked her to demonstarte how she empties the dirt bin.  She did.  Pops the finger tab, lid opens, out falls the dirt.  She doesn't tap the dirt bin canister edge on the trash can to loosen the cyclone dust and dirt.  This is explained in dyson's manual but she doesn't know where the manual is.  Most dyson users probably don't do this and they should get into the habit of doing it.  The human and dog hair wrap is so built up on the brush bar that the bristles are not visible.  I can see why repairs for such dysons are $20-$30 with no parts.  Probably will take about 45 minutes to complete the service.  Messy and dirty.  No work for me today and tomorrow.  This will get done on Monday and returned to her on Tuesday [free of course].

If anything else develops, I'll post it.

Carmine D.

PS:  Husband gets an F.  Wife gets an A for knowing who to call.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Oreck XL Pro-Plus @ Costco... Now with pictures...
Reply #61   Aug 29, 2009 4:57 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Venson et al:


You know something's wrong with a dyson when the dirt inside the bin justs sits there and doesn't whirl around.  Several problems:  Both filters are dirty and the pre-motor filter is filthy.  The shroud holes are all clogged with fine dirt and dog hair.  I asked her to demonstarte how she empties the dirt bin.  She did.  Pops the finger tab, lid opens, out falls the dirt.  She doesn't tap the dirt bin canister edge on the trash can to loosen the cyclone dust and dirt.  This is explained in dyson's manual but she doesn't know where the manual is.  Most dyson users probably don't do this and they should get into the habit of doing it.  The human and dog hair wrap is so built up on the brush bar that the bristles are not visible.  I can see why repairs for such dysons are $20-$30 with no parts.  Probably will take about 45 minutes to complete the service.  Messy and dirty.  No work for me today and tomorrow.  This will get done on Monday and returned to her on Tuesday [free of course].

If anything else develops, I'll post it.

Carmine D.

PS:  Husband gets an F.  Wife gets an A for knowing who to call.


I get a lot of hair wrapped around the brush of my vacuums.  This is not exclusive to Dyson.  If I had an animal it would likely be as bad as you describe.  PS.  My wife is not an animal she simply has long hair.

Yes the canister should be tapped against the trash can to loosen the dust in the shroud. Provided it is plastic or similar type can. This applies to Hoovers also.  Still not like trying to clean a Hoover screen or pleated filter.

CarmineD


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Re: Oreck XL Pro-Plus @ Costco... Now with pictures...
Reply #62   Aug 29, 2009 5:14 pm
HS:

Dyson brush bars on DC07 and DC14 are probably the worse for hair and rug wrap. Why?

Non-standard industry design.  The brush roll is small and the bristles are few. 

Dyson goes thru great lengths with pics and instructions to show users how to cut off

the hair and rug wrap with a pair of scizzors.  Most, regardless of hair color, don't do it.

Bagless screens are easy to brush clean/wash.  Dyson shrouds with perforated holes and cyclones

are more problematic.  Can't use water.  Have to take the time to tap the bin, loosen the caked on

dirt and blow out.  A dirty job regardless of your hair color.

Gasko was right.  Dysons need to be demoed and explained to users to work properly. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Oreck XL Pro-Plus @ Costco... Now with pictures...
Reply #63   Aug 29, 2009 5:20 pm
HS:

Several HOOVER models use pleated filters with teflon coatings that can be washed.

I believe these are evn available as replacements for paper pleated filters.

Most paper pleated filters are better vacuumed cleaned.  Alot less messier than tapping

and risking breakage of dirt bins/shrouds that can't be washed.  

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Oreck XL Pro-Plus @ Costco... Now with pictures...
Reply #64   Aug 29, 2009 5:23 pm
Of course HS you can buy a bagged vacuum, available in HOOVER models, but not dyson, that don't have

these filter issues and have cheap readily available new filter replacements for just a few dollars NOT $20-$40.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Oreck XL Pro-Plus @ Costco... Now with pictures...
Reply #65   Aug 29, 2009 6:08 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Of course HS you can buy a bagged vacuum, available in HOOVER models, but not dyson, that don't have

these filter issues and have cheap readily available new filter replacements for just a few dollars NOT $20-$40.

Carmine D.


The hoovers do not last long enough to need a new filter. 
CarmineD


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Re: Oreck XL Pro-Plus @ Costco... Now with pictures...
Reply #66   Aug 29, 2009 6:11 pm
HS:

Give us proof, don't just spout off at the mouth.  The filters are carried and sold for a reason.  Not to fill the shelves at retailers for no reason.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Oreck XL Pro-Plus @ Costco... Now with pictures...
Reply #67   Aug 31, 2009 2:06 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Venson et al:


You know something's wrong with a dyson when the dirt inside the bin justs sits there and doesn't whirl around.  Several problems:  Both filters are dirty and the pre-motor filter is filthy.  The shroud holes are all clogged with fine dirt and dog hair.  I asked her to demonstarte how she empties the dirt bin.  She did.  Pops the finger tab, lid opens, out falls the dirt.  She doesn't tap the dirt bin canister edge on the trash can to loosen the cyclone dust and dirt.  This is explained in dyson's manual but she doesn't know where the manual is.  Most dyson users probably don't do this and they should get into the habit of doing it.  The human and dog hair wrap is so built up on the brush bar that the bristles are not visible.  I can see why repairs for such dysons are $20-$30 with no parts.  Probably will take about 45 minutes to complete the service.  Messy and dirty.  No work for me today and tomorrow.  This will get done on Monday and returned to her on Tuesday [free of course].

If anything else develops, I'll post it.

Carmine D.

PS:  Husband gets an F.  Wife gets an A for knowing who to call.


One non-working dyson DC07 Animal + Carmine D + 45 minutes = One like new dyson

The only suggestion I will make to the owner is that she buy/replace the post motor filter which is black from carbon exhaust.  Since this is rather tricky on these early dyson models for someone unfamiliar, I'll tell her if she buys the filter, I'll replace it [free of course].

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck XL Pro-Plus @ Costco... Now with pictures...
Reply #68   Aug 31, 2009 2:10 pm
PS:  If I were still in the vacuum business and repairing dysons, I would have replaced the brush bar rather than spend time cutting off the hair and wrap.  Not worth the time and effort.

Carmine D.

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