Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Saw today the Costco now sell the Oreck for $299 something I really didn't pay close attention just noticed a black charcoal color vacuum that everyone seem to have in the shopping cart...<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>

Hello Lucky1:

You raise an interesting point.  Since this is an "old" discountinued ORECK model I would think the investors, who may or may not be represented on the Board of Directors, had no input. 

In my opinion, it's just a good way to unload old stock, keep your name and product in the market place with a reputable retailer, COSCTCO, which has done well

with sales while most others have tanked.

Carmine D.

Lucky1:

The curent ORECK franchise fee is $188,000 to $230,000.  This surprised me.  I thought it would be more, much more.  Latest count is 450 stores nationwide.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

HI CARMINE

 Not a bad price at all......considering the great quality and rep of the product your selling...knowing that your store will do well

'' like all the other'' oreck stores. With the success of ORECK...i would see this as a less risky venture ...compared to another

un-named sinking ship nowhere to be found franchise...with a  product nobody wants to service/touch .....even while in a recession.

..is proof positive that  ORECK would be the clear choice.

turtle1

CarmineD wrote:

And to think that you criticize Dyson for liquidating old stock.  Of course you would complain if Dyson gave them away.

BTW, you never told us that Oreck had enough OLD STOCK to have to liquidate.  Not to mention all those refurbs at Harbor freight.  Maybe the Oreck model is suffering more than you would admit.

Well HS if you look at refurbs, ORECK has a few listings on a few pages including the Commercial upright at Harbor Freight. 

Not too bad for a company with a presence in the USA for over 45 years and selling over 10 million units

including a prevasive presence at hotels and motels.  Probably the reason for the refurb commercial uprights.  Traded to

upgrade the cleaning fleet.

If you look at dyson refurbs, the Web pages go on and on well into the double digits packed from top to bottom.  For a

company that has been selling for only 7 years in the USA.  You defend that record of huge numbers of dyson refurbs? 

Shame on you.  It is indicative of severe product sales problems.  Like I always say to your friend DIB, where you stand

depends on where you sit.

Carmine D. 

CarmineD wrote:
We may see the day when Dyson has as many refurbs as Hoover. Of course if Dyson had not busted Hoover then Hoover would have always held top spot for refurbs.

I'm not sure how it is for commercial units, but Oreck does encourage consumers to try an Oreck in their home for 30 days with a very generous return policy.    Certainly not everyone will decide to keep the Oreck.  Some may even try for the "free gifts". 

HARDSELL wrote:

Gotcha HS:

I knew you would bite.  At one time, several years ago, you made this argument and you were right.  But no more.  First HOOVER has been in the US for over 100 years and the WT's, which you like to cite, have been on the market since 1998, alot longer than the DC16 and DC25 for examples.  Now dyson refurbs, and for some time now, outnumber HOOVER refurbs 2 to 1 at least on web pages, retaielrs and sites.  No other vacuum maker, bar none, has as many refurbs listed and for sale as your fave brand.

Like I said this is indicative of other problems:  sales, product, etc.  I hear Chopin's funeral march being played. 

Carmine D.

Severus wrote:

Hello Severus:

Good point.  The free gifts are more desirable in hard times.  ORECK itself does not list refurbs for sale on its site.  Like dyson and HOOVER do.  ORECK sells thru arrangements with retailers and/or thru its network of 450 stores.

The Harbor Freight Commercial upright reconditioned for $189 is not a buy, its ok.  The model sells new between $200 and $250.  Harbor Freight is not the best venue for ORECK sales either.  More an esoteric retailer, not mainstream.

Carmine D.

retardturtle1 wrote:

Hello 'turtle1'

As franchise fees go, this is on the lower end of price.  Considering no ORECK store has ever been shuttered in 40 years, it is a testament to their success. 

BUT... my advice to all:  Be your own boss regardless of the business but especially the vacuum business.  Keep the franchise fee in your pocket.  Run the show. 

I would never make dyson a mainstay of my business.  Too niche.  But certainly it should be part of it.  Why?  There's money to be made in dyson now even as a niche repair venue whether you like/sell the product new or not.  Most indies even if they discourage the sales are getting dysons in for repairs.  You can send to dyson, but you don't want to lose customers in a bad economy.  In fact even in a good economy. 

Carmine D.