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M00seUK


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Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Original Message   Jun 25, 2009 10:06 am
In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

  • Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
  • 200 watt motor
  • 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
  • £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

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retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #307   Aug 26, 2009 2:48 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello 'turtle1'

If I recall correctly a poster here, perhaps you, mentioned that at least one of the big box retailers is selling the DC16 refurbs for $75/$80.  Refurbs and their prices are set by dyson.  So refurb prices tend to be higher than they are for dyson DC16 resales industry wide.  Haven't heard of the DC30/31 hitting the USA markets yet.  I suspect when they do, even the refurb prices of the DC16 will have to come down.  So MSRP of $149-$199 for resale by dyson at $80 now and soon to be lower.  First in its class?  A class of losers.

Carmine D.


HI CARMINE

Yup..was me - saw them at biglots for around $80.....still overpriced.  $40 is soso ....25 is good and about right.  But even then and with 2 batteries i say no cord no power. Wonder if well see any of the dyson canisters at big lots ?..to be honest ive never seen one come in for a repair....just a full service clean-up/out / tune-up.

turtle1

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #308   Aug 26, 2009 5:23 pm
Hi 'turtle1'

The problem with dyson refurbs sold by dyson/retailers is the short warranty period: 6 months.  Since the refurb prices are set by dyson, dyson consumers shopping refurbs are better served buying from an authorized dyson dealer and/or indy.  Why?  Dyson dealers up the warranty by providing their own extended warranty after the 6 month dyson period.  Oftentimes 5-10 years [the latter I presume is because these refurbs at the prices are hard to sell because used and rebuilt dysons are so prevalent at alot lower prices].  Indies with no ties to dyson can cut the prices down on dyson resales below the dyson refurb prices and up the warranty.   If these dyson resales are unclaimed repairs, indies will sell just for the repair cost plus a slight premium for the 6 month warranty.  Indies sell DC07, 14 and 15 models for $130-$170, substantially less than the dyson refurbs, and with the equivalent 6 month warranty.  Win win for the customers inclined to buy a dyson bagless.  

Carmine D. 

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #309   Aug 26, 2009 6:37 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi 'turtle1'

The problem with dyson refurbs sold by dyson/retailers is the short warranty period: 6 months.  Since the refurb prices are set by dyson, dyson consumers shopping refurbs are better served buying from an authorized dyson dealer and/or indy.  Why?  Dyson dealers up the warranty by providing their own extended warranty after the 6 month dyson period.  Oftentimes 5-10 years [the latter I presume is because these refurbs at the prices are hard to sell because used and rebuilt dysons are so prevalent at alot lower prices].  Indies with no ties to dyson can cut the prices down on dyson resales below the dyson refurb prices and up the warranty.   If these dyson resales are unclaimed repairs, indies will sell just for the repair cost plus a slight premium for the 6 month warranty.  Indies sell DC07, 14 and 15 models for $130-$170, substantially less than the dyson refurbs, and with the equivalent 6 month warranty.  Win win for the customers inclined to buy a dyson bagless.  

Carmine D. 


HI CARMINE

No chance finding a dyson dealer around here....period.   Usually if someone wants a dyson around here they go to Wally ''or the local pawn shops....dirt cheap prices and plenty of used-stock......yard sale had 3 by the road on saturday.....make offer. when i got off work.....still by the road. -i see some shops are a little slow..but still refuse dyson repair work....wont touch. but hey its  freedom of choice.... great to be a indie/owner.

turtle1

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #310   Aug 26, 2009 6:46 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
HI CARMINE

No chance finding a dyson dealer around here....period.   Usually if someone wants a dyson around here they go to Wally ''or the local pawn shops....dirt cheap prices and plenty of used-stock......yard sale had 3 by the road on saturday.....make offer. when i got off work.....still by the road. -i see some shops are a little slow..but still refuse dyson repair work....wont touch. but hey its  freedom of choice.... great to be a indie/owner.

turtle1



Doesn't bode well for dyson for the long haul.  I know several indies who tell customers with dysons in and out of warranty to send them back to dyson.  They don't like the product, the company, or its founder.  Freedom of choice is the indies right.  Dyson needs the indies more than the indies need dyson. 

Carmine D.

Acerone


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #311   Sep 1, 2009 5:26 pm
Yes another DC31 review

Gizmodo Style
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #312   Sep 1, 2009 7:00 pm
Thanks Ace.

Not a very impressive review.  And laclluster performance for a DC31 at $220 and $270.  Leaving enough cat hair behind to look like a clean up job is still needed.  Very disappointing.  Dyson buyers/users are getting use to that with the existing crop of dyson products to date.  That's right I said crop.  But only one vowel different from the job it did on the cat hair.

Carmine D.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #313   Sep 1, 2009 8:23 pm
The first thing I noticed was the lint picking strip on the model with the powered brushroll. That should not be necessary if the brushroll and vacuum itself are effective.

Venson
retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #314   Sep 3, 2009 1:05 am
Venson wrote:
The first thing I noticed was the lint picking strip on the model with the powered brushroll. That should not be necessary if the brushroll and vacuum itself are effective.

Venson


You got 6 min....it needs all  the help it can get....or 12 min with the xtra batt - pushing the cost up even more $$$$300+......for a cordless [ world class ] handvac.. .And its the indys that are the crooks?

turtle1 

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #315   Sep 3, 2009 3:09 am
retardturtle1 wrote:
You got 6 min....it needs all  the help it can get....or 12 min with the xtra batt - pushing the cost up even more $$$$300+......for a cordless [ world class ] handvac.. .And its the indys that are the crooks?

turtle1 


If you 86’d your victim-entitlement mentality you would not feel like the manufacturers of out-of-reach products and “the man” are keeping you down.


DIB


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #316   Sep 3, 2009 1:48 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
If you 86’d your victim-entitlement mentality you would not feel like the manufacturers of out-of-reach products and “the man” are keeping you down.


DIB



DIB:

Anyone who thinks the latest from dyson is a hit and worth the green is stuck too far in the deep end of the manure heap.  Most recognize the sight and smell before they step in.  You wallow in it and have no idea. 

Carmine D.

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