Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Product details:-

• Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
• 200 watt motor
• 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
• £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

DIB:

Just like James, you whine.  An honest horse race, not fixed, is good for everybody most importantly the bettors.  Honest independent vacuum dealers are good for everybody including the industry and consumers.  As I see the dyson business model to date in the USA, dyson needs independent vacuum store owners and operators to repair it's products in and out of warranty.  Without them, dyson is lacking for the long haul.  We are seeing the evidence of that now with dyson consumers not repairing their dyson products. 

Whenever you are confronted with the truth, you retreat and name call to divert.  Stick to the issues and subject.  Are you saying as Severus and 'turtle1' posted that James and dyson strong arm the vacuum stores to sugar coat the dyson shortcomings so as to keep their dyson franchises?  Do you have inside knowledge of this?  Please share here. 

Carmine D. 

Please explain your words.  I'm wondering whether "the truth" and "your words" are even close to being the same.  So do you have inside information about the language in Dyson business contracts as you implied?  Does Dyson bully dealers by telling them what they can and cannot say?  That's what your comments seemed to imply.  I'm hoping that you will clarify.  I think many of us would be very disappointed to think that Dyson used bully tactics to control what dealers and their employees say.   I would like to think that Dyson is above that.  Dysons, in general, are fairly good products overall.   They've had their big losers, but they've also had some winners.  It's taken them a while to figure out how to clean American rugs, but they are making progress.   Certainly a 5-6 minute time limit on a handheld doesn't seem like much of a winner to me.

I guess I am honored that my writing style is similar to Venson's.  I've always admired him for his opinions, even when they disagree with mine.  He has a lot more experience with vacuums than I.  It is remarkable to me that someone in the northeast could have the exact same writing style as someone in the southwest given the differences in local dialects.   Are you also an expert in linguistics DIB?

Hello Severus:

Yes, about the same level and degree as vacuums: Zero.  I once comlimented Dusty for his word smithing here and DIB got his underwear in a knot and posted a nasty response to me: "Back Off' I believe were his exact words.  Dusty had to quote Webster's Dictionary definition of word smithing to DIB to convince and assure him that my post was indeed a huge compliment to Dusty's writing. 

Carmine D.

DIB.....I say what i gotta say. ..and stand by all of it...I expressed my views......from first hand day in day out knowledge..im no pro but i am expierenced....and know enough to know when i see a $200 6min waste of time and money......useless.  not a wise purchase in any way.......no cord no power.....all bagless vacs are more trouble than they are worth....and society can survive without another overpriced dyson on the market ...if i disagree with you DIB...ill tell you i do and explain why...without second thought...while giving you the respect you deserve..

The dealer / owner....can express his views if they feel another  brand is supirior to what they carry......based on exp.. and thats slander...now your really reaching  DIB.

turtle1

The honest independent vacuum store owners/operators stay in business for the long haul by offering customers choices in floorcare products that meet their houshold needs, budget requirements and personal likes.  Let the customers decide by answering their questions and concerns honestly and with integrity.  Then, they keep coming back and recommend others.  In this way, you make not only a new/used vacuum sale but a long term business relationship.

Carmine D. 

Continuing in Venson's ecumenical response to you I would add DIB:  There are none so blind as he who will not see. 

Simple straight forward requests to you elicit no clarifications/answers on the meaning of your posts implying that strong arm tactics are/will be used by dyson against franchised dyson indies who express their true opinions about its products.  Just the usual rants and raves from you that we have all heard before about the indies in the vacuum industry.  Well here's a news flash for you.  Whether you agree or not these vacuum cleaner indies that you impugn so vociferously here are the back bone of vacuum cleaner repairs/parts businesses.  Dyson needs them more than they need dyson.  

When confronted with the the truth you retreat like a scared chicken and resort to name calling.  Why?  To divert the focus and attention off the wrongdoer's deeds and onto the truth tellers and truth seekers.  Good luck with that.  We all see right through you.

Carmine D.