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M00seUK


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Points: 295

Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Original Message   Jun 25, 2009 10:06 am
In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

  • Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
  • 200 watt motor
  • 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
  • £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

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retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #265   Aug 16, 2009 1:39 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Why should I go anywhere when you freely offer up, how the con works and how the con man thinks.


DIB


Seriously?... You cant get mad cause a dealer voices his opinion of a product when asked...some trash dyson more than others.   it is what it is.   You can also be a service center and not like what you service.....but you service to bring in money  so you can pay the bills and take care of your people...thats not only business....its taking care of business.  How much a dealer charges to work on a dyson is the dealers view...choice. on how they view the job and the time it takes them...not how long YOU think it will/should take...overcharging?.. are you there for all repairs?..everyday..day in day out?.. What a dealer carries is his/her choice and what sells good in the areas around you...your selling whats viewed as the best you feel is the best in vacuums.....most dealers hate anything bagless...period....and dyson falls in with it too.....gotta respect that view. the only way your gonna get the respect you feel dyson deserves is to open coast to coast dyson only serv. centers....that can and will solve all your dyson gripes....views ..opinions...points of view...james included.  To all who copied dyson...so what . they took current tech and made it at a far lower price..same perf and quality...poss better ..leaving the public to ask why does dyson charge way more for the same product.....same thing just diff name?....yet no answer for the public. No matter what vac you have..your gonna have usage costs....some more some less.........comes with your choice/what you picked. Many would say anybody who pushes a dyson is a con...of an overpriced $250-300 vac.....for 600+...but i say they gotta respect what you see in it...your views as to why its the best.....your right to choose.

all the comp did was make what dyson foot the bill for...and make it affordable /just as durable /poss better......capitalized on where dyson and his team fell short...saw it solved it and capitalized on it......cant get mad about that...gotta envy and respect the eyes and minds that caught it...and capitalized on it.

turtle1

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #266   Aug 16, 2009 3:10 pm
DIB:

Don't you ever get tired and weary of posting the same sugar coated lies here.  Doesn't your conscience bother you?  No it can't.  You don't know enough about vacuums and the vacuum industry to have the conscience of a wise vacuum professional.  You're a babe in the woods.

The only 'con' game my dyson friend is being perpetrated by dyson.  The dyson ponzi scheme applied to its products has nothing to do with science.  Unless you are referring to sugar coated bull shine as science.  It's quite simple:  Overstate, falsify, and exaggerate dyson product claims with glitzy adds and marketing so you can overcharge consumers for mediocre products and performance.  Pay dyson pawns [like you] who know nothing about the vacuum industry and don't have the judgement/wisdom to know any better to talk up the dyson brand on public vacuum forums and with 5 star product reviews.  

Defend dyson's mediocrity in the vacuum industry at all costs against the independent truth tellers who post honestly and accurately about the ongoing problems with many dyson products.  Of which there are scores to name.   Build up the overpriced dyson brand as premium product by impugning the years old vacuum brands and models with established reps in the industry that outperform dyson models for much less hands down. 

That's the dyson game plan.  Always has been.  Probably always will be too.  Like all shams and ponzi schemes it can only work just for a little awhile.  Once the truth be known, the gig is up [to quote my friend MOLE here]. 

Oh sure dyson will be around like MIke W. says.  At least for the near future.  Lots of cult followers with PT Barnum signs posted on their foreheads.   But sooner or later, these too figure it out [you included] and fade away never to be heard from again. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #267   Aug 16, 2009 3:42 pm
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

Don't you ever get tired and weary of posting the same sugar coated lies here.  Doesn't your conscience bother you?  No it can't.  You don't know enough about vacuums and the vacuum industry to have the conscience of a wise vacuum professional.  You're a babe in the woods.

The only 'con' game my dyson friend is being perpetrated by dyson.  The dyson ponzi scheme applied to its products has nothing to do with science.  Unless you are referring to sugar coated bull shine as science.  It's quite simple:  Overstate, falsify, and exaggerate dyson product claims with glitzy adds and marketing so you can overcharge consumers for mediocre products and performance.  Pay dyson pawns [like you] who know nothing about the vacuum industry and don't have the judgement/wisdom to know any better to talk up the dyson brand on public vacuum forums and with 5 star product reviews.  

Defend dyson's mediocrity in the vacuum industry at all costs against the independent truth tellers who post honestly and accurately about the ongoing problems with many dyson products.  Of which there are scores to name.   Build up the overpriced dyson brand as premium product by impugning the years old vacuum brands and models with established reps in the industry that outperform dyson models for much less hands down. 

That's the dyson game plan.  Always has been.  Probably always will be too.  Like all shams and ponzi schemes it can only work just for a little awhile.  Once the truth be known, the gig is up [to quote my friend MOLE here]. 

Oh sure dyson will be around like MIke W. says.  At least for the near future.  Lots of cult followers with PT Barnum signs posted on their foreheads.   But sooner or later, these too figure it out [you included] and fade away never to be heard from again. 

Carmine D.



Dyson did the world a big favor when they closed Hoover USA down. That stopped you from telling all your lies about Hoover slaying Dyson.

Now along comes DIB.  He keeps you occupied and criticizing Dyson.  No time left for your promo Oreck lies.

THANKS DIB.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #268   Aug 16, 2009 3:48 pm
Hello HS:

Always like when you chime in for DIB.  Birds of a feather flock together.  We know what DIB's role is here.  Doesn't take rocket science to know yours too.  The only difference between you and DIB is you know better.  How people make their livings and livlihoods are their business.  Some have to lie and cheat to make a buck.  That doesn't make it right or better.  It just makes it what it is. 

CArmine D. 

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #269   Aug 16, 2009 4:38 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Dyson did the world a big favor when they closed Hoover USA down. That stopped you from telling all your lies about Hoover slaying Dyson.

Now along comes DIB.  He keeps you occupied and criticizing Dyson.  No time left for your promo Oreck lies.

THANKS DIB.


Welcome.  It's been fun.

DIB


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #270   Aug 16, 2009 4:49 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Welcome.  It's been fun.

DIB



I agree with you DIB with a minor bit of word smithing:  It's been "funny!"   Your fantasy filled mind is ever entertaining and gets you into trouble here.  I enjoy HS running interference when you start believing your own dysonland fairy tales.  As he had to do here for you with the dyson handheld myths you spew. 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #271   Aug 16, 2009 5:09 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Dyson did the world a big favor when they closed Hoover USA down. That stopped you from telling all your lies about Hoover slaying Dyson.

Now along comes DIB.  He keeps you occupied and criticizing Dyson.  No time left for your promo Oreck lies.

THANKS DIB.


You’re right HS.  In 2002 Dyson had 0% dollar value upright market share while Hoover led the U.S. with 35% (or so).  In 2008 Dyson led the U.S. with a 35% (or so) share to Hoover’s 11%, while most other competitors share remained near level, except for Bissell which climbed from 7% to 17%.  Much of Bissell’s growth came after they pretty much abandoned the bag and went with the so-called bagless.


DIB


DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #272   Aug 16, 2009 6:49 pm
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

Don't you ever get tired and weary of posting the same sugar coated lies here.  Doesn't your conscience bother you?  No it can't.  You don't know enough about vacuums and the vacuum industry to have the conscience of a wise vacuum professional.  You're a babe in the woods.

The only 'con' game my dyson friend is being perpetrated by dyson.  The dyson ponzi scheme applied to its products has nothing to do with science.  Unless you are referring to sugar coated bull shine as science.  It's quite simple:  Overstate, falsify, and exaggerate dyson product claims with glitzy adds and marketing so you can overcharge consumers for mediocre products and performance.  Pay dyson pawns [like you] who know nothing about the vacuum industry and don't have the judgement/wisdom to know any better to talk up the dyson brand on public vacuum forums and with 5 star product reviews.  

Defend dyson's mediocrity in the vacuum industry at all costs against the independent truth tellers who post honestly and accurately about the ongoing problems with many dyson products.  Of which there are scores to name.   Build up the overpriced dyson brand as premium product by impugning the years old vacuum brands and models with established reps in the industry that outperform dyson models for much less hands down. 

That's the dyson game plan.  Always has been.  Probably always will be too.  Like all shams and ponzi schemes it can only work just for a little awhile.  Once the truth be known, the gig is up [to quote my friend MOLE here]. 

Oh sure dyson will be around like MIke W. says.  At least for the near future.  Lots of cult followers with PT Barnum signs posted on their foreheads.   But sooner or later, these too figure it out [you included] and fade away never to be heard from again. 

Carmine D.


Feel free to demonstrate.

DIB


DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #273   Aug 16, 2009 7:00 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
Seriously?... You cant get mad cause a dealer voices his opinion of a product when asked...some trash dyson more than others.   it is what it is.   You can also be a service center and not like what you service.....but you service to bring in money  so you can pay the bills and take care of your people...thats not only business....its taking care of business.  How much a dealer charges to work on a dyson is the dealers view...choice. on how they view the job and the time it takes them...not how long YOU think it will/should take...overcharging?.. are you there for all repairs?..everyday..day in day out?.. What a dealer carries is his/her choice and what sells good in the areas around you...your selling whats viewed as the best you feel is the best in vacuums.....most dealers hate anything bagless...period....and dyson falls in with it too.....gotta respect that view. the only way your gonna get the respect you feel dyson deserves is to open coast to coast dyson only serv. centers....that can and will solve all your dyson gripes....views ..opinions...points of view...james included.  To all who copied dyson...so what . they took current tech and made it at a far lower price..same perf and quality...poss better ..leaving the public to ask why does dyson charge way more for the same product.....same thing just diff name?....yet no answer for the public. No matter what vac you have..your gonna have usage costs....some more some less.........comes with your choice/what you picked. Many would say anybody who pushes a dyson is a con...of an overpriced $250-300 vac.....for 600+...but i say they gotta respect what you see in it...your views as to why its the best.....your right to choose.

all the comp did was make what dyson foot the bill for...and make it affordable /just as durable /poss better......capitalized on where dyson and his team fell short...saw it solved it and capitalized on it......cant get mad about that...gotta envy and respect the eyes and minds that caught it...and capitalized on it.

turtle1


In the context of your many Dyson bad-mouthing posts...  When a Dyson dealer distributes what you deem - “an opinion” it is called slander and cause for their dealership termination.  Dyson too, [has many more] families to feed.  Society can easily survive when less than truthful mom and pops are caught and then shut down.  Society has a much tougher time surviving when invention factories and large employers are shut down.


DIB
This message was modified Aug 16, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #274   Aug 16, 2009 7:18 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
You’re right HS.  In 2002 Dyson had 0% dollar value upright market share while Hoover led the U.S. with 35% (or so).  In 2008 Dyson led the U.S. with a 35% (or so) share to Hoover’s 11%, while most other competitors share remained near level, except for Bissell which climbed from 7% to 17%.  Much of Bissell’s growth came after they pretty much abandoned the bag and went with the so-called bagless.


DIB


      Not to good on all those %numbers..dollar value ..never have been. ..but its about the best quality ,performance . multi-use durable vacuum at the best price....that does what the the customer needs it to do....is it not? what are people buying...and from who?.....that tells you who they want and what they like /want. ...dollar value of market doesnt really show what the people....the customer really wants....only my view.. and i may see things backwards due to my lack of knowledge in the the stock /shares market.......i figure if you take care of the customer.....theyll take care of you. 

turtle1

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