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M00seUK
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Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Original Message Jun 25, 2009 10:06 am |
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In the press today:- http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.doProduct details:- - Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
- 200 watt motor
- 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
- £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99
I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed? I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #248 Aug 14, 2009 7:04 am |
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Oh, I get it now... a frustrated science student, going “postal” on those who know how to get things done.
DIB
Wrong again. But a good laugh.
A love and thirst for science that was transferred and imputed to a love and knowledge of vacuum cleaners [and I will add a vacuum business and consulting profession in the industry]. The latter is getting things done. If you don't apply the advancements in science to business and technology, it is worthless. If you haven't read already, and I'd bet you didn't, read the link that Severus posted on the dustbuster. Then compare to James' DC16. After 30 years the dustbuster is still going stron and sold over 100 MILLION units. The DC16 is DOA. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #249 Aug 14, 2009 8:06 am |
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You can also overwhelm the cyclonic separation by taking in too much dirt at once. I suspect that most of the dirt that goes into the pre-motor filters is from start up and/or overwhelming the cyclones with too much dirt at once.
Dyson users have reported dirt and sand getting into the pre-motor filters. This is why. With a much lower powered hand vac and users cycling them on and off, I suspect it will be much worse. Hello Severus: I agree. During start up and shut down bagless cyclones have fine dust/dirt lodging in the openings w/o passing into the dirt bin. Especially if users start right into cleanup after startup. Tho, I have not seen the warnings, it would behoove cyclonic bagless brand makers to advise users to allow a brief run time after start up and before cleanup begins. Conversely the same is true with shut down. Allow a brief run time to get all the dust and dirt through the cyclones before shut down. Carmine D.
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #251 Aug 14, 2009 4:50 pm |
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Hello Severus: I agree. During start up and shut down bagless cyclones have fine dust/dirt lodging in the openings w/o passing into the dirt bin. Especially if users start right into cleanup after startup. Tho, I have not seen the warnings, it would behoove cyclonic bagless brand makers to advise users to allow a brief run time after start up and before cleanup begins. Conversely the same is true with shut down. Allow a brief run time to get all the dust and dirt through the cyclones before shut down. Carmine D. All this run time before and after use......on a handvac that is already on a serious time limit....no time to clean up....now thats dyson science ...applied.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #252 Aug 14, 2009 5:25 pm |
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All this run time before and after use......on a handvac that is already on a serious time limit....no time to clean up....now thats dyson science ...applied. Hello 'turtle1'
More like dyson science misapplied. Carmine D.
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #253 Aug 14, 2009 8:07 pm |
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Hello 'turtle1' More like dyson science misapplied. Carmine D. HI CARMINE
Overpriced.....very limited use at best. a $25-40 handvac for $200...priced for the dyson elite/followers ...yup'' one born every minute ' And james is $ banking $ on them....
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #254 Aug 15, 2009 6:46 am |
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Son of a gun. What a coincidence, I do too. I picked them up at yardsales last weekend for $5 each.
Hello Severus:
The Dirt Devil handcleaners I see at yard/garage sales are usually priced $15-$20 and sometimes more. I suspect the battery packs in those dyson handhelds you picked up are shot. Replacement batteries are $50 plus. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #255 Aug 15, 2009 6:49 am |
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HI CARMINE Overpriced.....very limited use at best. a $25-40 handvac for $200...priced for the dyson elite/followers ...yup'' one born every minute ' And james is $ banking $ on them.... Hello 'turtle1'
Dyson has a cult-like following ref: DIB. Misguided for the most part. Can't separate the fantasy in their minds from the reality of the real world. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #256 Aug 15, 2009 11:12 am |
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Hello 'turtle1' Dyson has a cult-like following ref: DIB. Misguided for the most part. Can't separate the fantasy in their minds from the reality of the real world. Carmine D. More like a nightmare to the lying of Dyson, the bad-mouthing of Dyson "bottom feeder" vacuum dealer independents, and some these "bottom feeders" are indeed Dyson dealers (an old game of bait and switch). These same bottom feeders have groupies (the so-called enthusiast) - they don't like me either. DIB Note: I'm only referencing the "bottom feeders" and not the upright and respectable.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #257 Aug 15, 2009 11:23 am |
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HI CARMINE Overpriced.....very limited use at best. a $25-40 handvac for $200...priced for the dyson elite/followers ...yup'' one born every minute ' And james is $ banking $ on them.... Retardturtle, Can you demonstrate your "limited use at best" claim? How about starting with Dyson advertised claims.. 1) strong suction (maybe strongest in its class) and 2) no suction strength loss (no clogging for many months). DIB
This message was modified Aug 15, 2009 by DysonInventsBig
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